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ihavenickHi. What could be the reason (or how to follow whole chain of whats happening step after step) that:06:17
ihavenick1) computer locks in to xcreensaver and goes to sleep06:17
ihavenick2) i wake it up, login in to xscreensaver06:17
ihavenick3) xscreensaver unlocks screen06:17
ihavenick4) !!! and computer goeas right away into deep sleep - and only power button wakes it up again06:18
ihavenick5) i wake it up - and only now i'm in desktop06:18
guivercwhat release ihavenick ?06:18
ihavenickLubuntu 17.006:19
ihavenickBut upgraded on top of 16.x something06:19
ihavenickdoring distro upgrade06:19
guivercThe oldest supported release of Lubuntu is Lubuntu 20.04 LTS  (ie. 2020-APril release)06:19
ihavenickoh I mean lxde 17.0 :)06:20
guivercLubuntu uses LXQt and doesn't support LXDE06:20
ihavenickdistro is 21.1006:20
ihavenickfck i ment LXQT :)   06:21
ihavenickSo: distro is lubuntu 21.10, with LXQT 17.006:21
ihavenickUpgraded on top of Lubuntu 20.04, with LXQT 16.x something06:22
ihavenickAnyway. What could you say about my problem - how to fix that wrong sleep, lock, unlock, and it sleeps again, and the nunlock without pass seequesnce06:23
guivercI'm trying to think; I believe I've experienced this before on a laptop; but never worked out the issue; and something I know I tried prior to issue solved isn't possible on a non-LTS release like 21.10.  Sorry I can't think of anything.06:24
guivercI suspect the issue isn't desktop (LXQt) specific, as I experienced it also with Xfce/Xubuntu on same laptop06:26
ihavenickYes it's laptop. What steps would you suggest to take to even begin understanding/debug this order of events/executions?06:26
ihavenickPlain ubuntu on same laptop works perfectly ok :)06:27
ihavenickI mean with gnome everything is ok.06:27
ihavenickWithout xscreensaver everything is also kinda of ok. The only thing I don't like is to leave unlocked laptop, while going away for a minute or two. So I use it basicaly only for locking through crl+alt+L shortcut.06:30
ihavenickMaybe someone could suggest a better method to lock screen manualy and auto after x minutes, without using xscreensaver?06:30
guivercI understand that (wanting to use screen locking), but I'm struggling to think of I'd do (except I kept going down wrong parts)...   asking the question on Lubuntu's discourse maybe worthwhile; ie. hopefully more eyes that can read & return if they think of ideas etc.06:31
guivercs/think of I'd/think of what I'd do/ ^   sorry bad typos06:32
ihavenick(no problem about typos, I'm non native english speaker - I don't even see them :), it reads well xD )06:33
ihavenickHow do you lock screen?06:33
ihavenicki mean yourself06:34
guivercthoughts i have:  has it always done this; was it only after a specific day; I looked for change(s) (files with datestamps in days before day it started for me for changes) ... I never felt like I found fixed; was fighting it awhile & then issue was resolved...   me I use xscreensaver or the default06:34
guivercs/found fixed/found fix/ ^06:35
ihavenickWell its been from the first day i have met xscreensaver (hello ugly friend). I earlier used lubuntu 18.04 LTS and it was perfect :)  no such ugly friends.06:38
ihavenickI was wondering why lubuntu lxqt even chose to use it (xscreensaver). As whole sequence of sleeping, locking, unlocking, slepping again - was symptomatic from the verry start.06:40
guivercLXQt doesn't have a lockscreen (like LXDE didn't); Lubuntu use xscreensaver to do that....06:40
guivercyou could try telling screensaver to just 'Blank Screen Only' of course (ie. no screensaver) & just operate as lock/unlock  https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.19/screensaver.html06:42
ihavenickWell, I never saw xscreensaver on LXDE (and I had lxde at least since lubuntu 16.04 LTS tik 18.04 LTS)06:42
ihavenickIt locked simply into login screen.06:43
guivercmaybe even "Disable Screen Saver" - I just did a quick here it and still acts as locker for me06:43
ihavenickI'll try again, even if I'have already tried this.06:44
guivercyeah you maybe correct (& I"m wrong ihavenick); i see light-locker on https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/lubuntu-desktop and no xscreensaver - maybe I added it06:45
guivercadded it to my box ^06:45
ihavenickThe problem is not ugliness or having enabled/disabled xscreensaver. Problem is that after unlocking from it - computer still goes to sleep. As if xscreensaver somehow blocks normal sleep cycle and it doesnt begin. Just waits.06:45
ihavenickAnd then exscreensaver quits locking, then going to sleep continues.06:45
guiverci realize that's the issue; as I've stated i've experienced it on a thinkpad x201 I believe06:46
ihavenickhere is Thinkpad X1 Carbon gen 6, with I7-85550u, 16Gb ram06:47
guivercall I can suggest is leaving a question on our forum/discourse (https://discourse.lubuntu.me/) and hopefully you'll get a response with time... I can always play with my x201 (it has 20.04 on it I believe now) & see if anything comes back to me (memory wise)06:50
ihavenickWell, anyway, at least I have vented. Thanks guiverc. It pissed me so, that I even tried to migrate to gnome :), the only thing that stopped me is that the don't have whole power of openbox for shortctuts and  windows mannagement - e.g. no way to resize window to specific size.06:52
guivercYou're most welcome, sorry I couldn't think of much06:53
ihavenickThen openbox will be deprecated, LXQT will go to the same honored but dead land of former friend, like LXDE (sadly) have gone.06:53
ihavenick:)  cheers06:53
ihavenicks/^then/when if/, s/friend/friends06:55
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dragon2can I upgrade to the impish version?15:43
dragon2I think I have a spring version 15:43
tomreynthat's depend on which srping15:45
tomreynrun    lsb_release -ds   in a terminal to tell15:45
kc2bezIf you have 21.04 then yes, you can upgrade to 21.10. I would advise you to make sure you have backup before proceeding. 15:45
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