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[06:17] <ihavenick> Hi. What could be the reason (or how to follow whole chain of whats happening step after step) that:
[06:17] <ihavenick> 1) computer locks in to xcreensaver and goes to sleep
[06:17] <ihavenick> 2) i wake it up, login in to xscreensaver
[06:17] <ihavenick> 3) xscreensaver unlocks screen
[06:18] <ihavenick> 4) !!! and computer goeas right away into deep sleep - and only power button wakes it up again
[06:18] <ihavenick> 5) i wake it up - and only now i'm in desktop
[06:18] <guiverc> what release ihavenick ?
[06:19] <ihavenick> Lubuntu 17.0
[06:19] <ihavenick> But upgraded on top of 16.x something
[06:19] <ihavenick> doring distro upgrade
[06:19] <guiverc> The oldest supported release of Lubuntu is Lubuntu 20.04 LTS  (ie. 2020-APril release)
[06:20] <ihavenick> oh I mean lxde 17.0 :)
[06:20] <guiverc> Lubuntu uses LXQt and doesn't support LXDE
[06:20] <ihavenick> distro is 21.10
[06:21] <ihavenick> fck i ment LXQT :)   
[06:21] <ihavenick> So: distro is lubuntu 21.10, with LXQT 17.0
[06:22] <ihavenick> Upgraded on top of Lubuntu 20.04, with LXQT 16.x something
[06:23] <ihavenick> Anyway. What could you say about my problem - how to fix that wrong sleep, lock, unlock, and it sleeps again, and the nunlock without pass seequesnce
[06:24] <guiverc> I'm trying to think; I believe I've experienced this before on a laptop; but never worked out the issue; and something I know I tried prior to issue solved isn't possible on a non-LTS release like 21.10.  Sorry I can't think of anything.
[06:26] <guiverc> I suspect the issue isn't desktop (LXQt) specific, as I experienced it also with Xfce/Xubuntu on same laptop
[06:26] <ihavenick> Yes it's laptop. What steps would you suggest to take to even begin understanding/debug this order of events/executions?
[06:27] <ihavenick> Plain ubuntu on same laptop works perfectly ok :)
[06:27] <ihavenick> I mean with gnome everything is ok.
[06:30] <ihavenick> Without xscreensaver everything is also kinda of ok. The only thing I don't like is to leave unlocked laptop, while going away for a minute or two. So I use it basicaly only for locking through crl+alt+L shortcut.
[06:30] <ihavenick> Maybe someone could suggest a better method to lock screen manualy and auto after x minutes, without using xscreensaver?
[06:31] <guiverc> I understand that (wanting to use screen locking), but I'm struggling to think of I'd do (except I kept going down wrong parts)...   asking the question on Lubuntu's discourse maybe worthwhile; ie. hopefully more eyes that can read & return if they think of ideas etc.
[06:32] <guiverc> s/think of I'd/think of what I'd do/ ^   sorry bad typos
[06:33] <ihavenick> (no problem about typos, I'm non native english speaker - I don't even see them :), it reads well xD )
[06:33] <ihavenick> How do you lock screen?
[06:34] <ihavenick> i mean yourself
[06:34] <guiverc> thoughts i have:  has it always done this; was it only after a specific day; I looked for change(s) (files with datestamps in days before day it started for me for changes) ... I never felt like I found fixed; was fighting it awhile & then issue was resolved...   me I use xscreensaver or the default
[06:35] <guiverc> s/found fixed/found fix/ ^
[06:38] <ihavenick> Well its been from the first day i have met xscreensaver (hello ugly friend). I earlier used lubuntu 18.04 LTS and it was perfect :)  no such ugly friends.
[06:40] <ihavenick> I was wondering why lubuntu lxqt even chose to use it (xscreensaver). As whole sequence of sleeping, locking, unlocking, slepping again - was symptomatic from the verry start.
[06:40] <guiverc> LXQt doesn't have a lockscreen (like LXDE didn't); Lubuntu use xscreensaver to do that....
[06:42] <guiverc> you could try telling screensaver to just 'Blank Screen Only' of course (ie. no screensaver) & just operate as lock/unlock  https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.19/screensaver.html
[06:42] <ihavenick> Well, I never saw xscreensaver on LXDE (and I had lxde at least since lubuntu 16.04 LTS tik 18.04 LTS)
[06:43] <ihavenick> It locked simply into login screen.
[06:43] <guiverc> maybe even "Disable Screen Saver" - I just did a quick here it and still acts as locker for me
[06:44] <ihavenick> I'll try again, even if I'have already tried this.
[06:45] <guiverc> yeah you maybe correct (& I"m wrong ihavenick); i see light-locker on https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/lubuntu-desktop and no xscreensaver - maybe I added it
[06:45] <guiverc> added it to my box ^
[06:45] <ihavenick> The problem is not ugliness or having enabled/disabled xscreensaver. Problem is that after unlocking from it - computer still goes to sleep. As if xscreensaver somehow blocks normal sleep cycle and it doesnt begin. Just waits.
[06:45] <ihavenick> And then exscreensaver quits locking, then going to sleep continues.
[06:46] <guiverc> i realize that's the issue; as I've stated i've experienced it on a thinkpad x201 I believe
[06:47] <ihavenick> here is Thinkpad X1 Carbon gen 6, with I7-85550u, 16Gb ram
[06:50] <guiverc> all I can suggest is leaving a question on our forum/discourse (https://discourse.lubuntu.me/) and hopefully you'll get a response with time... I can always play with my x201 (it has 20.04 on it I believe now) & see if anything comes back to me (memory wise)
[06:52] <ihavenick> Well, anyway, at least I have vented. Thanks guiverc. It pissed me so, that I even tried to migrate to gnome :), the only thing that stopped me is that the don't have whole power of openbox for shortctuts and  windows mannagement - e.g. no way to resize window to specific size.
[06:53] <guiverc> You're most welcome, sorry I couldn't think of much
[06:53] <ihavenick> Then openbox will be deprecated, LXQT will go to the same honored but dead land of former friend, like LXDE (sadly) have gone.
[06:53] <ihavenick> :)  cheers
[06:55] <ihavenick> s/^then/when if/, s/friend/friends
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[15:43] <dragon2> can I upgrade to the impish version?
[15:43] <dragon2> I think I have a spring version 
[15:45] <tomreyn> that's depend on which srping
[15:45] <tomreyn> run    lsb_release -ds   in a terminal to tell
[15:45] <kc2bez> If you have 21.04 then yes, you can upgrade to 21.10. I would advise you to make sure you have backup before proceeding. 
[15:46] <dragon2> 21.04 
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