| dragon2 | I am doing the dist upgrade, at least an attempt. Should it go as smooth and easy as the last time? | 09:22 |
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| dragon2 | There is a config part I cannot remember in the tutorial I found | 09:22 |
| dragon2 | have any of you done the upgrade? | 09:22 |
| dragon2 | I alwasy feal a bit uneasy about these | 09:33 |
| kc2bez | They left but for the record my work machine started as 18.10 and is now 21.04. I've hit every interim release in between. | 09:36 |
| dragon2 | it turns out I probably have upgraded to 21.10 already, | 09:40 |
| dragon2 | I was sure I only did the basic upgrades | 09:40 |
| kc2bez | lsb_release -a in the terminal will tell you. | 09:43 |
| dragon2 | lsb_release -a with a space between -a? | 09:50 |
| Fatal_Sushi | dragon2: keep in mind that dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade your system to a new version: https://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade | 09:50 |
| dragon2 | I did sudo apt dist-upgrade | 09:51 |
| Fatal_Sushi | dragon2: that's not upgrading from say 21.04 to 21.10 | 09:51 |
| Fatal_Sushi | read the link i gave | 09:52 |
| kc2bez | dragon2: yes, there is a space between lsb_release and -a | 09:52 |
| Fatal_Sushi | dragon2: also just copy/paste lsb_release -a into a terminal and you'll know | 09:53 |
| kc2bez | dragon2: This page in our manual can help with release upgrades. https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/D/upgrading.html | 09:55 |
| dragon2 | lsb_release -a gave 21.04 hirsute | 09:55 |
| dragon2 | hmm | 09:55 |
| kc2bez | dragon2 you should make sure you have a good backup before proceeding. | 09:56 |
| Fatal_Sushi | dragon2: you want to upgrade to 21.10? | 09:59 |
| Fatal_Sushi | dragon2: if yes then do: sudo do-release-upgrade | 10:01 |
| dragon2 | I guess there are no reason not to do the upgrade? | 10:02 |
| dragon2 | I was under the impression the hirsue issue of lubuntu quickly got old after the new one arrived? | 10:03 |
| Fatal_Sushi | looks like my brain isn't awake yet, kc2bez already gave a link to a how to | 10:03 |
| dragon2 | I am reading :- ) | 10:03 |
| kc2bez | 21.04 will go EOL in January | 10:03 |
| Fatal_Sushi | dragon2: 21.04 and 21.10 are interim releases which are only supported for 9 months after the release date | 10:03 |
| Fatal_Sushi | 22.04 will be the next LTS release which will be supported for 3 years after it's release | 10:04 |
| kc2bez | There is about 3 months of overlap to allow time to upgrade on interim releases. | 10:05 |
| dragon2 | I might as well go ahead and run 21.10 as long as it is supported | 10:05 |
| Fatal_Sushi | at least the lubuntu flavor and other flavors. Main Ubuntu LTS desktop and server will be supported for 5 years. | 10:06 |
| dragon2 | the only reason I did the shorter term versions is because of the newer version of FF and libre | 10:07 |
| Fatal_Sushi | FF is always updated to the newer version, even on LTS | 10:08 |
| kc2bez | It is supported. It is a good idea to read over the release notes too. https://lubuntu.me/impish-released/ | 10:08 |
| Fatal_Sushi | dragon2: newer doesn't mean it's better by the way | 10:08 |
| dragon2 | I may have been misinformed then, or just misunderstood | 10:08 |
| Fatal_Sushi | most of the people i know only use LTS releases | 10:09 |
| dragon2 | I see | 10:09 |
| dragon2 | I thought of Debian at first, but they ended up with lubuntu | 10:09 |
| Fatal_Sushi | Debian has even older packages ;) | 10:10 |
| Fatal_Sushi | but their goal is stability | 10:10 |
| Fatal_Sushi | bbl, need to do something | 10:11 |
| dragon2 | I hardly notice the difference on the upgrades, just new desctop background | 10:11 |
| dragon2 | thanks | 10:11 |
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| dragon44 | hi | 10:53 |
| dragon44 | I a really dragon2 | 10:53 |
| dragon44 | ..and I have a kernel crisis on the upgrade | 10:54 |
| Fatal_Sushi | just change your nick back to dragon2 :) | 10:54 |
| dragon44 | I cannot boot the machine, it sort of went black | 10:54 |
| dragon44 | I get a gray screen | 10:54 |
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| dragon2 | now what to do in a upgrade crisis? | 10:57 |
| dragon2 | I did something wrong, is there a way to boot in terminal and retry the dist upgrade? | 10:57 |
| kc2bez[m] | What did you see for error messages? | 10:59 |
| dragon2 | unable to mout root | 11:00 |
| kc2bez[m] | hmm, so what happened exactly? | 11:01 |
| dragon2 | sorry, I had to move the lubuntu computer closer to another unit | 11:05 |
| dragon2 | I started the distro upgrade, I chose Y for yes, it dowloaded all the stuff in about 4 minutes | 11:05 |
| dragon2 | it started installing the packages, as far as I could see, it went on for sometime and the screen went black | 11:06 |
| dragon2 | at first I thought it was within the install process but on further notice the pc was off. I pushed "on" and it went on it to a sort of black screen and kernel panick | 11:07 |
| dragon2 | Now I have rebooted a few times, and have a black screen with all sorts of stack and root issues | 11:07 |
| dragon2 | the last one being --- ( end Kernel panic not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknow--block | 11:09 |
| dragon2 | there is a list of stuff under "call trace" | 11:10 |
| dragon2 | is all lost now? | 11:11 |
| dragon2 | arghh..... | 11:11 |
| kc2bez[m] | That won't be too helpful. You could try selecting a different Kernel on boot by holding the shift key down but if the upgrade got interrupted it might not work. | 11:11 |
| dragon2 | shift key not f-ke | 11:13 |
| kc2bez[m] | Yes, shift on boot up | 11:14 |
| dragon2 | I was able to choose "advanced option something for ubuntu | 11:14 |
| kc2bez[m] | ok | 11:15 |
| dragon2 | ubuntu with linux 5.13.0-21 generic | 11:15 |
| dragon2 | three uptions | 11:15 |
| dragon2 | 5.13.0-21-generic (recovery mode) | 11:16 |
| dragon2 | 5.11.0-40-generic | 11:16 |
| dragon2 | which boot up option sounds like a good idea? | 11:17 |
| dragon2 | this is the second distro upgrade on this computer since install, the first I had a short time before I went onto 21.04 | 11:18 |
| dragon2 | if I choose recovery mode what should I expect? | 11:19 |
| dragon2 | could I restart the upgrade install? | 11:20 |
| kc2bez[m] | Hopefully | 11:20 |
| dragon2 | I'm just getting the same kernel panic not synicng message in a back screen | 11:21 |
| dragon2 | on the first two boot options* | 11:21 |
| dragon2 | I'm browsing for options on the web | 11:22 |
| kc2bez[m] | It might be time to restore from the backup. | 11:24 |
| dragon2 | I only did a back up of document folder | 11:25 |
| dragon2 | ...a reinstall, ouch | 11:25 |
| dragon2 | can you work from the bootup terminal? | 11:37 |
| dragon2 | the odd thing is the third boot up option seem to work? | 11:38 |
| kc2bez[m] | Which option was that? | 11:38 |
| dragon2 | just old 21.04 I guess? | 11:38 |
| kc2bez[m] | Well, that might be ok. | 11:38 |
| kc2bez[m] | Try sudo apt update just to see what happens. | 11:39 |
| dragon2 | every thing is here, browser data, history, documents folder, etc | 11:39 |
| dragon2 | ends with...all packages are up to date | 11:40 |
| dragon2 | I made a mess of the distro upgrade | 11:40 |
| dragon2 | and my bootup | 11:41 |
| kc2bez[m] | Well, if your machine turned off mid upgrade that is what messed things up. | 11:41 |
| dragon2 | I should do a second attempt | 11:42 |
| kc2bez[m] | Are you booted into the desktop or a terminal session? | 11:42 |
| dragon2 | desktop | 11:43 |
| dragon2 | works like normal | 11:43 |
| kc2bez[m] | Make sure you have everything you need backed up now while you can. | 11:43 |
| dragon2 | how do I back up correnctly? | 11:44 |
| dragon2 | I just copied my documents folder to save work? | 11:45 |
| kc2bez[m] | There are many tools to use, I would recommend at the very least you copy the home folder someplace. | 11:47 |
| kc2bez[m] | If you end up having to reinstall you can reinstall the applications you need at that time. | 11:49 |
| dragon2 | what was it again? sudo apt do upgrade? | 11:54 |
| kc2bez[m] | sudo do-release-upgrade | 11:56 |
| dragon2 | no new relase found? | 11:57 |
| dragon2 | maybe I can't upgrade from the alternative bootup? | 11:57 |
| kc2bez[m] | or the upgrade is in a limbo state. | 11:58 |
| kc2bez[m] | What is the result of lsb_release -a | 11:58 |
| dragon2 | ubuntu 21.10 | 11:59 |
| dragon2 | should I get a new desktop wallpaper? | 11:59 |
| kc2bez[m] | maybe. I'm more concerned about the kernel issues. | 12:02 |
| dragon2 | I am running the apply full upgrade thing under preferances | 12:03 |
| dragon2 | I ran it, and it came up with "status waithing" | 12:03 |
| dragon2 | waiting* | 12:03 |
| dragon2 | I am is a sort of stuck mode | 12:04 |
| dragon2 | the reboot error: 0.424113 ---(unable to mount root fs on unknow-block(0,0)) | 12:16 |
| dragon2 | reinstall may be the best option | 12:21 |
| dragon2 | maybe only the linux gurus can repair a failed distro upgrade | 12:22 |
| dragon2 | might not be any on earth at the moment | 12:22 |
| dragon2 | what about sudo dpkg --configure -a ? | 13:17 |
| dragon2 | is there a repair function in the install booter? | 13:19 |
| dragon2 | I can't even boot from a usb 21.10 iso today | 13:27 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> Lubuntu thumbnails of .svg files are not supporting some basic functionality (clipping). Where this missing feature can be reported? | 14:51 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Maik_aD> probably here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/ (re @matkoniecz: Lubuntu thumbnails of .svg files are not supporting some basic functionality (clipping). Where this missing feature can be reported?) | 14:53 |
| kc2bez[m] | To report bugs see this link https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/ | 14:57 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> > The account you are attempting to register with has an invalid email address (<snip>). This Phabricator install only allows registration with specific email addresses: | 14:57 |
| kc2bez[m] | Bugs should be reported on Launchpad. | 14:57 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> > Email address must be at one of: lubuntu.me, ubuntu.com, debian.org (re @Maik_aD: probably here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/) | 14:57 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Maik_aD> lubuntu doesn't use launchpad for bug reporting (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> Bugs should be reported on Launchpad.) | 14:58 |
| kc2bez[m] | To get an account on phabricator you need to email the lubuntu council. | 14:58 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> > Lubuntu does not use Launchpad for bug tracking. | 14:58 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu | 14:58 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Excuse me? (re @Maik_aD: lubuntu doesn't use launchpad for bug reporting) | 14:58 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> I am starting to suspect that bug reports from users are treated as useless annoyance (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> To get an account on phabricator you need to email the lubuntu council.) | 14:58 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> (which may be true given some ratio of users to developers, but would make reporting bugs a waste of time) | 14:59 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Bug reports should be on launchpad. This particular issue should be filed against the lubuntu-artwork package. | 14:59 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Maik_aD> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu (re @kc2bez: Excuse me?) | 15:00 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-artwork | 15:00 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> " Lubuntu Artwork must be configured in order for Launchpad to forward bugs to the project's developers. " (re @kc2bez: Bug reports should be on launchpad. This particular issue should be filed against the lubuntu-artwork package.) | 15:00 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> arghhhhh that it is this $INSULT lubuntu.net | 15:01 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-artwork directs to phab that appears to be closed to general public | 15:02 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Just use ubuntu-bug lubuntu-artwork and follow the prompts. | 15:03 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> The link I provided can help you file bugs as a member of the Lubuntu council I ask you to use that. https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/ | 15:04 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> If you would like an account we can give you one, it is only closed to block spam. (re @matkoniecz: https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-artwork directs to phab that appears to be closed to general public) | 15:04 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> Thanks, that worked! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/1952627 (re @kc2bez: Just use ubuntu-bug lubuntu-artwork and follow the prompts.) | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1952627 in lubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "thumbnail icon of svg files is not supporting clipping" [Undecided, New] | 15:07 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Thanks for reporting that. It is appreciated. | 15:08 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> Thanks for a help! That was really frustrating. | 15:11 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> BTW, do you know where https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/B/Contributing.html?highlight=bug#support-and-bug-triage is being developed? | 15:11 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> I would not make patch as I do not know asnwers but there is "And we could always use help with art/graphic design!" and no hint at all how such people can actually contribute. (re @kc2bez: Thanks for reporting that. It is appreciated.) | 15:11 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> There is | 15:13 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> > What would encourage you to contribute? | 15:13 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> further and I would say that answer is | 15:13 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> "provide some clear way to actually contributing" - for example this part with art. What specific is needed? Vision for full redesign? Printer icon? SVGification of raster icons? New wallpapers? | 15:13 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> It is not necessary to put it there but some link to place with more info or even forum would be useful. | 15:13 |
| lubot | [telegram] <matkoniecz> I am interested (re @kc2bez: If you would like an account we can give you one, it is only closed to block spam.) | 15:14 |
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| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Agreed, we should update this with some clear instruction. I see you are in the development channel, that is a good start. We can discuss further over there. (re @matkoniecz: It is not necessary to put it there but some link to place with more info or even forum when one may declare interest would be useful.) | 16:29 |
| dragon_ | is this lubuntu support? | 17:50 |
| dragon_ | I am in a newly installed lubuntu and looking for proprietary wifi driver | 17:51 |
| dragon_ | can`t this be done in package manager? | 17:58 |
| dragon_ | is there a way to force a new usb boot on a newly installed lubuntu ? | 18:14 |
| Maik | dragon_: It would be better if you stick around after asking and give people a chance to respond instead of leaving after a minute. | 18:27 |
| dragon_ | sorry abou that | 18:27 |
| dragon_ | I had a restart and password issues | 18:27 |
| dragon_ | ...and slight panick | 18:28 |
| dragon_ | it was me this time, not just the kernel | 18:29 |
| dragon_ | I am sure your presense worked though, through the ether some how. IT all appeared under additional drivers this time, and before it was just and emty greyed out window | 18:30 |
| dragon_ | back in a minute or three, reboot and minor configs | 18:32 |
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