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[00:11] <jkk> https://github.com/UnigramDev/Unigram is there a linux version ?
[00:29] <jcbjoe2021> any reason why i can capture audio with webcam software and not video? what is a good way to start troubleshooting? i can see my self on the screen
[00:31] <jcbjoe2021> it works i used cheese and i can get video and audio
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[01:38] <xu-irc96w>  some sites is saying plz use the pc web browser to download, how can i fix? trying to down some exe
[01:40] <xu-irc96w> nvm got it on phone browser
[02:05] <jkk> where is ubuntu kernel source code?
[02:14] <Bashing-om> jkk: Is in the repo - something like ' apt source linux-image-generic ' .
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[02:22] <jcbjoe2021> what does it mean when you close the lid to your laptop open  it and everything looks frozen and like its shaking? anyway to fix it?
[02:22] <jcbjoe2021> i had to reboot
[02:39] <jcbjoe2021> anyone seen or used this fix for laptop suspension https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-close-lid-suspend/
[02:53] <icsi_soc> Ping
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[04:09] <jkk> is there some reason for ubuntu kernel to use blobs instead of open source drivers?
[04:12] <guiverc> jkk, some hardware companies will only provide closed-source or binary blobs (kernel modules etc) thus why non-free/restricted exists.
[04:13] <CRCinAU> so dumb question that I can't find straight away in google..... How can I ignore a certain subset of packages on a specific repo?
[04:13] <jkk> guiverc, Trisquel kernel is completely open source
[04:15] <guiverc> and many features won't boot/use it fully; however this is a Ubuntu room, not a trisqual support room
[04:15] <guiverc> jkk, please use #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk general GNU/Linux and not Ubuntu
[04:16] <jkk> ok
[04:17] <jkk> my question was - surely ubuntu been such a big distro can develop it's drivers too?
[04:19] <guiverc> Ubuntu has install options that use non-free (debian terminology here) only.  It's not the default, but users can opt to install with it (but not for all ISOs I suspect)
[04:20] <guiverc> jkk, not many use it; thus the question asking who does - ie. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/anyone-still-use-the-free-software-only-install-option/8431
[04:21] <Bashing-om> jkk: Ubuntu maintains a close working relationship with OEM. For the instance of Nvidia; see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2015-August/004693.html . Also applies with AMD.
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[05:43] <jesus> hola
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[06:37] <indyZ> I've noticed that in Ubuntu 18.04, gwenview shows thumbnails for video files. In Ubuntu 20.04, it doesn't. Instead it only shows thumbnails for video files. I tried installing some packages like libffmpegthumbnailer4v5, but that didn't help. Am I missing a package or something?
[06:38] <indyZ> I hate losing useful features like that.
[06:39] <indyZ> er. Instead it only shows thumbnails for picture files, I mean, in ubuntu 20.04. In 18.04 it showed them for both pictures and videos.
[06:43] <indyZ> Apparently in Fedora someone fixed the issue by installing "kffmpegthumbnailer," but I don't see that package in ubuntu.
[06:45] <indyZ> Actually, I take that back. I see the package is in 18.04, but not 20.04. Well, that sucks.
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[07:16] <indyZ> ugh, I hate snaps so much.
[07:29] <kek_> can an ubuntu update mess with set up ssh access?
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[09:10] <littlebit> hi people, i have ubuntu-server installed, and have a question about a package. can I ask it here?
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[09:27] <Guest80> Hello everyone
[09:27] <Guest80> When i live boot into ubuntu, where in the live system do i find the actual boot device?
[09:29] <Guest80> Okay. So i make the bootable live USB, but make another folder manually on the USB called other, and in that other folder i put i file i want to run when i live boot.
[09:29] <Guest80> Where in the live environment of ubuntu do i fint this other folder?
[09:31] <ducasse> littlebit: go ahead
[09:32] <ducasse> Guest80: the live image is not mounted in a live system, you need to mount it
[09:33] <Guest80> Okay,
[09:33] <Guest80> But i Linux Mint, Peppermint OS and other, i can do sh /media/peppermint/other/script.sh
[09:34] <Guest80> for example for peppermint os
[09:37] <ducasse> just look under /media to see, but iirc it's not mounted automatically
[09:37] <littlebit> ducasse: I'm looking for a package from the cockpit-project for Podman
[09:38] <littlebit> ducasse: on the project page it is officially available but apparently not in the ubuntu repository
[09:39] <ducasse> littlebit: what's the package name?
[09:39] <littlebit> ducasse: cockpit-podman i guess
[09:40] <ducasse> might they provide their own repo it could be in?
[09:42] <alocer> HI, I don't know if this the correct channel but anyone can help: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kqQZ4FryjN/
[09:44] <littlebit> ducasse: well if you do an apt search cockpit you will get most packages from the cockpit-project. the one I mentioned above is missing I guess.
[09:52] <ducasse> littlebit: from a quick glance it looks like you might have to use the github
[10:03] <littlebit> ducasse: then y maintain a debian package at ubuntu?
[10:13] <ducasse> afaict there is no official package, you really should ask the cockpit guys
[10:13] <ducasse> try #cockpit?
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[10:14] <gjain_7> hi
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[12:16] <xu-irc24w> !info qemu
[12:16] <ubottu> qemu (1:6.0+dfsg-2expubuntu1.1, impish): fast processor emulator, dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Built by qemu. Size 16 kB / 131 kB. (Only available for amd64, arm, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, mips64, mips64el, powerpc, powerpcspe, ppc64, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x, sparc, sparc64, x32.)
[12:27] <aniketgm>  
[13:04] <gneeriiloeepdeer> how do I paste a picture into a pdf file?
[13:10] <pagios>  hello, i am trying to install a CA certificate manually on linux, i should use the public cert and not the private .pem, when running update-ca-certificated i get 0 updated
[13:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:34] <graingert[m]> purge-old-kernels is deprecated - what's the new one?
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[16:14] <ravage> apt autoremove
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[16:20] <graingert[m]> ah I see it
[16:20] <graingert[m]> <ravage> "apt autoremove" <- I also catted the new purge-old-kernels script and saw that's all it called
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[16:24] <octav1a> So, sometimes I will download .deb packages from sites that offer them. It used to be that I ran $ dpkg -i <whatever> ; sometimes it would be missing dependencies, so the solution was to run $ apt -f install , which would automatically resolve the dependencies.
[16:25] <ravage> apt install ./your.deb
[16:25] <octav1a> However, for some reason, using modern ubuntu, this doesn't work. It asks to remove the new package instead of installing deps
[16:30] <user24> join #user42test
[16:39] <Maxii> Hi, I recently installed ubuntu 21.04 (after breaking an 18.04 install), and ever since, my laptop seems to run the fan on max, even when I have everything closed and am not doing anything. Interestingly, when I run a bootable USB of 21.04, the laptop fan seems totally fine. The fans also don't do this when on my windows partition. Because of this,
[16:39] <Maxii> I'd rule out hardware issues and say its a software issue. Any help on how I could diagnose/fix this would be appreciated.
[16:43] <KBar> Do you have some advanced power management tools installed?
[16:44] <KBar> Say something that enables "Performance mode" or something similar?
[16:47] <KBar> Maxii
[16:49] <Maxii> oh uhh, not as far as I know KBar
[16:49] <Maxii> I haven't installed any such things myself
[16:51] <KBar> Maxii, `sudo lshw | head -n 5 | pastebinit`
[16:53] <KBar> It will tell us your laptop model.
[17:03] <Maxii> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7XV7qnHSSb/
[17:03] <Maxii> KBar ^
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[17:07] <KBar> Maxii, does the fan run at full speed from the get go or does it take time (e.g. 15–30 minutes) for it to start speeding up?
[17:09] <Maxii> From the get go
[17:12] <KBar> Maxii, can you launch System Monitor and see if there's some unusual or suspicious activity?
[17:13] <KBar> Also, are you sure that your laptop is not overheated?
[17:15] <Maxii> Yes, I'm sure, like I said, this doesn't happen with the bootable usb
[17:15] <KBar> Maxii, is it at full speed now?
[17:16] <KBar> Maxii, if so, what does the following output? `sensors`
[17:17] <Maxii> I'm not sure if its at "full" speed, but it is much higher than it ever was before I installed 21.04, and is annoyingly loud
[17:18] <KBar> Maxii, alright. Run that command and pipe it to pastebinit. Let's see what the sensors say.
[17:18] <Maxii> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yjCMrwHHq3/
[17:20] <EriC^^> Maxii: paste isnt working, says need to login
[17:21] <KBar> Maxii, the temperatures seems ok. Can you run `lshw` once again? This time with full information.
[17:21] <EriC^^> maybe some acpi issue?
[17:21] <Maxii> Yeah, I can't even view it myself. Once before a guy had a command where I could pipe it into a pastebin like thing where I could see it without login, but I can't remember what that command was.
[17:21] <EriC^^> Maxii: | nc termbin.com 9999   ?
[17:21] <Maxii> ah yeah, that
[17:25] <Maxii> https://termbin.com/gkn3
[17:26] <ledeni> Maxii, run top and see maybe some of processes use 100% of cpu
[17:27] <KBar> +1
[17:27] <Maxii> nothing is running 100%, highest thing is 18.5% cpu use
[17:28] <EriC^^> what was the output of 'sensors' ?
[17:28] <Maxii> sensors -> https://termbin.com/vqku
[17:29] <KBar> Maxii, you have hybrid graphics. Are you running nVidia on proprietary drivers?
[17:29] <EriC^^> and what are those in top? try "ps aux | sort -k 3 | tail | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:30] <Maxii> EriC^^ that command ... https://termbin.com/2dw4
[17:30] <KBar> Maxii, if so, check if your PRIME profile is not set to "Performance mode".
[17:31] <EriC^^> Maxii: i feel like the fans shouldnt be running 100% at those temps and load
[17:31] <EriC^^> maybe it's some fan control/acpi stuff going on?
[17:31] <Maxii> Yeah, I know they shouldn't. I think I tried looking into that but I couldn't get anywhere. I think I installed something, I'll check
[17:32] <Maxii> KBar, I'm not sure how to do that, I'll google it but it'll take a sec
[17:32] <EriC^^> you could modify grub with acpi stuff, you need to get the latest windows from this command first though, sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i 'windows '
[17:32] <Maxii> In the past I've installed tlp and fancontrol, but these didn't help with the problem
[17:33] <Maxii> hmm, is modifying grub safe? I tried that before and it broke things
[17:34] <KBar> Maxii, try these threads: https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/dual-gpu-intel-nvidia-prime-render-offloading-ubuntu-20-04-does-not-offload/166864
[17:34] <KBar> https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/ubuntu-20-04-fresh-install-looking-for-how-to-use-prime-to-use-igpu-on-desktop-intel-gtx-1060/124195
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[17:36] <KBar> Maxii, unfortunately, I don't own an Nvidia card and can't help you further. The most likely culprit is either PRIME settings or some pesky process in the background. You can try creating a new user and see if the fan runs fine.
[17:37] <ledeni> Maxii, try to install 'thinkfan' you have lenovo
[17:37] <KBar> Good luck.
[17:37] <Maxii> Thanks KBar!
[17:37] <Maxii> ledeni, I have tried this in the past, but it didn't do anything. I'll try it again now
[17:40] <Maxii> I'm going to go to update stuff, brb
[17:40] <KBar> No problem, Maxii. You can resort to more radical measures later, once you've eliminated other options.:)
[17:41] <Maxii> Absolutely! I'll try the nvidia thing but I'm skeptical just because the thing runs fine when I boot from usb
[18:18] <Maxii> Hi, I was on here previously about an issue with my laptop fans, they are running very fast and loud, even at very low load and this only happens on the new 21.04 install (but, weirdly, not the bootable usb version).
[18:18] <Maxii> I tried looking into the nvidia drivers, but its inconclusive so far. I've tried installing thinkfan but it did nothing
[18:22] <Maxii> Could it be the proprietary drivers? I clicked during install the option to add proprietary drivers, maybe they aren't used when only loading the bootable usb
[18:23] <KBar> Maxii, IIRC, yes. Only the integrated graphics card is used during a Live session.
[18:23] <KBar> Maxii, `nvidia-smi`
[18:24] <KBar> Does that reveal the drivers version?
[18:24] <Maxii> That doesn't seem to be installed
[18:25] <KBar> I see. Then, just look under Additional Drivers tabs in Software & Updates.
[18:25] <KBar> What do you have there?
[18:26] <Maxii> Ahh, I'm not using any nvidia ones
[18:26] <Maxii> only nouveou disply driver
[18:26] <KBar> Maxii, you're running Wayland, correct?
[18:28] <Maxii> Wayland? Wait, I just checked, I'm using 20.04.3 (not 21.04, i got mixed)
[18:28] <Maxii> I'm not sure what wayland is
[18:29] <ioria> Maxii, lshw says your GeForce GTX 950M is using nvidia module
[18:31] <KBar> Maxii, `echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE`
[18:31] <Maxii> ioria Are you saying that it is using a proprietary driver?
[18:31] <ioria> not me, lshw
[18:32] <KBar> Maxii, `echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP`
[18:32] <Maxii> KBar - session type = x11
[18:32] <Maxii> current desktop = ubuntu:GNOME
[18:33] <Maxii> ioria right, lshw, but, that doesn't show in my linux "additional drivers", so that's odd.
[18:33] <KBar> Maxii, you don't have the Nvidia Settings app, right?
[18:33] <Maxii> as far as I know, that's correct
[18:33] <Maxii> Oh, I can say that, when I do updates, I get these error messages:
[18:35] <KBar> Maxii, under Ubuntu Software tab in Software & Updates, is Proprietary drivers (restricted repo) enabled or not?
[18:35] <Maxii> https://termbin.com/3x8u (error messages I get when I update, I've tried to get rid of these but to no avail)
[18:36] <Maxii> KBar, that is checked, yeah
[18:41] <KBar> Maxii, maybe try installing `nvidia-driver-470`?
[18:42] <Maxii> Ok, will do, and will restart, brb
[18:46] <Maxii> Hi so uhh, switching to the nvidia 470 didn't seem to change anything
[18:47] <KBar> Maxii, the thing, that packages should also pull nvidia-utils, which should enable that Nvidia Settings app.
[18:47] <KBar> And profile switching.
[18:47] <KBar> *the thing is
[18:48] <KBar> Maxii, check if it is installed now.
[18:49] <Maxii> Ahh, I think I did it wrong, I "installed" it by changing the additional driver from the x.org one to nvidia-driver-470 and restarting (from the software and updates), however now its locked out and I can't change it back. Should I have installed it by using sudo apt install nvidia-utils-470 ?
[18:51] <KBar> Maxii, I thought they weren't in the list.
[18:51] <ondrodrak> hello.
[18:51] <Maxii> They were listed, but not "checked", the check button was only on the X.Org X server
[18:51] <Maxii> nouveau display driver
[18:51] <KBar> Maxii, I see. `dpkg -l nvidia-utils-470`
[18:52] <KBar> `dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-470`
[18:52] <Maxii> Just out of curiosity, why that one rather than sudo apt install nvidia-utils-470?
[18:53] <KBar> Maxii, to check if it's installed or not. `dpkg -l` just lists information about the package.
[18:53] <KBar> From its database.
[18:53] <Maxii> ahhh right, gotcha, one moment
[18:54] <Maxii> no packages for either
[18:54] <KBar> Maxii, try `apt install --simulate nvidia-utils-470`
[18:54] <Maxii> wait, if those aren't installed, what on earth happened just now that I clicked restart? I'm v. confused. Ok, will try that
[18:55] <KBar> Maxii, and share the output if you can.
[18:55] <Maxii> termbin.com/q2oy
[18:56] <KBar> Maxii, thanks. Now the second package.
[18:57] <Maxii> termbin.com/g115
[18:57] <KBar> Maxii, okay. I think you're safe to install them now.
[18:58] <Maxii> Ok, I will. But, do you have any idea what happened? in additional drivers, everything else is grayed out and the option checked is "continue using a manually installed driver"
[18:59] <Maxii> I guess I should restart after installing those?
[19:00] <KBar> Maxii, yes, not a bad idea.
[19:01] <KBar> Maxii, for your question: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1237590/not-able-to-change-the-nvidia-driver-in-ubuntu-20-04
[19:03] <Maxii> ahh, excellent!
[19:05] <KBar> Maxii, there is also a tool called vga_switcheroo on Ubuntu, but I have no idea how to use it. Maybe someone smarter can help you if we can't get this Nvidia Settings app to work.
[19:07] <Maxii> KBar, that did something but the fan is still running more than usual, this is the output of nvidia-smi: termbin.com/1p19
[19:08] <Maxii> "that" = installing those two things and restarting
[19:08] <KBar> Maxii, so it runs a bit slower now?
[19:08] <KBar> The fan, I mean.
[19:09] <Maxii> tbh, i think its the same as it was. I'll just boot to my live version and check the difference
[19:09] <KBar> Maxii, before you do, check if Nvidia Settings was installed.
[19:13] <Maxii> Sorry, I had already restarted. It was definitely much quieter on the live version. I'm just booting back now to check if that is installed.
[19:14] <Maxii> Btw, the fast fan thing happens the moment that the screen to type in the disk key pops up, butnot in the grub menu
[19:17] <Maxii> KBar Nothing shows up when I type nvidia settings or nvidia into the search bar (how else should I check?)
[19:18] <KBar> Maxii, fsck
[19:18] <KBar> :-D
[19:19] <KBar> Maxii, `ubuntu-drivers devices`
[19:20] <Maxii> fsck ? did you mispell something or is that a command? when I tried to run it, it warned it might damage my filesystem
[19:20] <Maxii> ok, ubuntu-drivers devices = termbin.com/87nv
[19:21] <KBar> Maxii, oh, no no no. It's just that f-word.
[19:21] <KBar> fsck is very close to it
[19:21] <Maxii> yup
[19:21] <Maxii> :P
[19:21] <Maxii> also, not in the termbin was a warning that nvidia-driver-390 package has invalid support legacy header
[19:22] <KBar> We don't care about old version. What do you see under Additional Drivers?
[19:23] <Maxii> "continue using manually installed driver" is checked, everything else greyed out
[19:24] <jcbjoe2021> Anyone recommend Only Office?
[19:26] <KBar> Maxii, ok, now let's remove all this garbage nvidia drivers. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1237590/not-able-to-change-the-nvidia-driver-in-ubuntu-20-04
[19:27] <KBar> Maxii, then reboot (since you already have nouveau). Then run `sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall`
[19:29] <Maxii> when I do "dpkg -l | grep nvidia-driver", I get no results KBar
[19:30] <KBar> Maxii, okay. How about `apt purge nvidia-driver*`
[19:31] <KBar> Wait
[19:31] <KBar> Maxii, `apt purge --simulate nvidia-driver*`
[19:31] <KBar> Forgot about the flag. Never purge from the first try!
[19:33] <Maxii> ok, here https://termbin.com/ngy0
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[19:34] <KBar> Maxii, so installing nouveau removed these.
[19:34] <EriC^^> try "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
[19:34] <EriC^^> just to see
[19:35] <Maxii> ok, that returned some thing: termbin.com/f1zc
[19:35] <KBar> Maxii, remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau too, reboot. If it doesn't start GUI, go into virtual console (Ctrl+Alt+f1) and run `sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall`
[19:36] <KBar> Wait
[19:36] <KBar> You got nvidia settings.
[19:36] <KBar> Why the hell is it not popping up?
[19:36] <EriC^^> it's removed, just the config files left (rc)
[19:37] <KBar> Ah, you're right.
[19:37] <KBar> Missed that one.
[19:38] <KBar> Maxii, yeah, remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, reboot and autoinstall recommended drivers.
[19:38] <Maxii> ok, will do
[19:39] <Maxii> shall I do an autoremove too? or does that not matter?
[19:39] <KBar> Maxii, how many packages it suggests to autoremove?
[19:40] <KBar> And what packages?
[19:40] <KBar> Just `apt purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau`
[19:41] <Maxii> termbin.com/yipy
[19:41] <Maxii> ahh, ok, i only did apt remove not apt purge, I'll do purge
[19:43] <Maxii> so yeah, KBar, in that termbin is the other packages it suggests to autoremove, should I?
[19:43] <KBar> Maxii, don't autoremove. Intel drivers are there.
[19:43] <Maxii> ahh, ok
[19:43] <KBar> ignore it
[19:43] <Maxii> ok so, restarting now and running the autoinstall
[19:44] <KBar> yep!
[19:46] <Maxii> ok so, the gui still started
[19:47] <KBar> Maxii, good. Check the Additional Drivers tab now.
[19:47] <Maxii> it still says "continue using a manually installed driver", i can run the ubuntu autoinstall thing now?
[19:48] <KBar> Yep
[19:49] <Maxii> ok, so it seems to be suggesting install of a bunch of things I didn't have
[19:49] <Maxii> running it now
[19:49] <KBar> Let's see
[19:49] <KBar> What it suggests
[19:50] <Maxii> ok, one sec, will termbin it
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[19:51] <Maxii> termbin.com/pqik
[19:52] <Maxii> ok so, now in additional drivers, its not greyed out anything, and "Using NVIDIA driver metapackackge nvidia-driver-470" is selected
[19:52] <KBar> And it also isntalled nvidia-prime + nvidia-settings
[19:52] <KBar> Let's check if the app is installed now!!!
[19:52] <Maxii> it is
[19:52] <KBar> Awesome
[19:52] <KBar> Is there NVIDIA Prime tab?
[19:53] <KBar> There should be.
[19:53] <Maxii> yes, its selected at NVIDIA On-Demand
[19:53] <KBar> Is there something like disable or switch to Integrated graphics?
[19:54] <Maxii> Yes, I can select "NVIDIA (Performance Mode)", "NVIDIA On-Demand" "Intel (Power Saving Mode)"
[19:54] <KBar> Try Intel Power saving
[19:55] <Maxii> ok, restarting to apply changes
[19:56] <KBar> lets goooo
[20:01] <Maxii> Ok so, I restarted it and it was still high, but I just started up nvidia server settings. Now, only the PRIME profiles are showing, but when I started the settings program, the fan speed massively reduced
[20:02] <KBar> We're getting closer!
[20:03] <KBar> In the meantime, watch this beautiful video of Linus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ
[20:03] <Maxii> So, maybe I should try switching back to NVIDIA On-Demand ? I have no idea, but will the intel graphics display movies (video file through vlc) to me at a worse quality (was going to watch one later tonight)?
[20:03] <Maxii> hahaa, i think i know what that is without clicking on it
[20:03] <Maxii> yup, i was right :)
[20:03] <KBar> Maxii, I think switching can be done on the fly.
[20:03] <KBar> Maxii, you can always choose Performance whenever needed.
[20:04] <KBar> Maxii, try fiddling around a bit and choose whatever you're comfortable with, both in terms of fan noise and performance.
[20:05] <Maxii> so, to switch profiles, it always asks for a system restart
[20:05] <KBar> Really? That feels bad. Hold on.
[20:06] <KBar> Maxii, you can try this GNOME extension: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1275/prime-indicator/
[20:07] <KBar> Maxii, is the fan quiet now?
[20:08] <Maxii> I think now that it is running on the intel option, it is "normal quiet", (although tbh, i haven;t had this at normal fan speed for so long its hard to tell)
[20:08] <KBar> Haha. Glad we sorted this out
[20:09] <Maxii> Yes, me too, thank you sooooo much, its been bugging me for ages having this sat in a room seeding and having the fan obnoxiously loud when I wake up in the morning
[20:09] <Maxii> Your help means I can drink my morning tea in peace and quiet!!!
[20:09] <KBar> Yep. Remember, it's always NVIDIA!!!
[20:10] <KBar> Maxii, very well!
[20:13] <Maxii> KBar makes sense why I've never had such problems on my desktop, i use amd graphics
[20:14] <Maxii> ok, so I switched back to nvidia on-demand and now the fan is running a bit higher again, so I guess I'll switch to intel graphics to have the fan calm itself down, I'm assuming it literally only affects things if I'm gaming right?
[20:15] <pyeverything> is there a way to find number of jpeg images in each directory  given a root directory?
[20:16] <KBar> pyeverything, ls -l *.jpeg | wc -l
[20:18] <KBar> for each directory, perhaps `cd path/to/directory && ls --format=long --total *`
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[20:21] <KBar> Maxii, yep, you're correct. I don't think your experience should suffer. I just checked some of the specs. I think it's good enough to do some basic work. For gaming, you'll need to switch to performance mode.
[20:21] <KBar> Maxii, that GNOME extension looks promising. Maybe try it one day.
[20:23] <Maxii> I have installed it, it seems to automatically log me out, and then when I log back in again, the new PRIME setting is selected. not as annoying as a restart, but close. No matter though, I almost never do graphically demanding things on linux, only windows partition where nvidia card is probably enabled anyways and I don't care because I only use
[20:23] <Maxii> it for gaming (which on my laptop is never anyway)
[20:24] <KBar> Ah, I see.
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[20:28] <srv> aradesh the same aradesh fron rizon
[20:28] <aradesh> er, yes
[20:28] <aradesh> :)
[20:29] <srv> :)
[20:35] <pyeverything> when I run ls -l *.pt | wc -l  --> it doesn't show the total number of .pt files in each directory -- it throws an error and says: ls: cannot access '*.pt': No such file or directory
[20:36] <ahc> The dir /var/log has syslogs.gz going back a little. I'm hoping to find how I installed something a year ago. Are there logs anywhere going all the way back?
[20:40] <samlamamma> My nvidia drivers broke after updating to 21.10 (or something). At first nomodeset worked for booting, at which point I uninstalled old drivers (apt autoremove) and then installed nvidia 470 through the GUY. now not even nomodeset will work. Can still use recovery boot though! Any hints on what I can do?
[20:40] <samlamamma> Currently upgrading to new kernel
[20:54] <Guest50> hey, I'm wondering
[20:54] <Guest50> how to fix
[20:54] <Guest50> sound scratch/beep
[20:54] <Guest50> when video switches in youtube
[20:54] <Guest50> can I make pulse audio play
[20:54] <Guest50> silence.wav
[20:54] <Guest50> all the time?
[20:55] <Guest50> as a signal
[20:55] <ducasse> !enter
[20:55] <ubottu> Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.
[20:59] <choki> hi
[21:10] <jcbjoe2021> How do I see what WiFi adapter or service I'm using? I installed ubuntu connected to WiFi I think with network manager now I'm using i3 and I'm just connected. Am I still using network manager? If so how do I stop it and use iwd?
[21:20] <Guest50> jcbjoe2021 You want another applet?
[21:20] <Guest50> I'm not sure what is network manager difference
[21:21] <Guest50> nm-applet
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[21:58] <zenof> I'm installing 21.10 , unchecked the download updates during install thing, but the installer _does_ download updates. anyone who can confirm that, and, how can I prevent this in future?
[22:04] <Guest50> not sure, 21.04 worked fine
[22:04] <Guest50> are You on some bleeding edge asf
[22:04] <Guest50> ?
[22:05] <Guest50> (hardware wise)
[22:06] <Kilroy> what Guest50
[22:06] <Kilroy> and zenof does the computer need internet access?
[22:07] <Guest50> yeah he coulda just turned off internet
[22:07] <Guest50> I am just saying that 21.10 is not LTS
[22:07] <Guest50> those things happen
[22:08] <Kilroy> nor is 21.04
[22:08] <Kilroy> 20.04 is a LTS
[22:08] <Guest50> ah right
[22:09] <Guest50> well but 20.04 does not really come with nvidia prepared
[22:09] <Guest50> for some new devices
[22:09] <Kilroy> I use ubuntu 20.04 on my servers/ and brothers hackintosh
[22:09] <Guest50> 21.04 is real stable for me here
[22:11] <zenof> don't think I'm "asf" on the bleeding edge with a regular release like 21.10 ...
[22:11] <Guest50> are You arguing this because You tried arch
[22:13] <zenof> and for sure I would expect the installer not to download any updates if I'm explicitly offered to opt out of  this.
[22:13] <zenof> Guest50: pardon?
[22:13] <Guest50> go report bug
[22:14] <Guest50> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/report-ubuntu-bug.html.en
[22:14] <Guest50> any non LTS that is 2 releases from it, is considered bleeding edge
[22:15] <Guest50> with that I meant hardware bleeding edge
[22:15] <Guest50> like some new gpu or cpu
[22:16] <zenof> neither nor, but what would my brand new hardware have to do with the installer downloading updates!?
[22:16] <Kilroy> it does not zenof
[22:16] <Kilroy> zenof does the computer need internet/ or how good are you at cli
[22:17] <Guest50> well certain new releases have better new hardware support for them
[22:17] <pa> Kilroy: were you there?
[22:18] <Kilroy> was I there what?
[22:18] <pa> idk, i read that kilroy was here..
[22:18] <Kilroy> oh
[22:18] <sarnold> :D
[22:18] <Kilroy> pa++
[22:26] <zenof> Kilroy: (of course) it does need internet
[22:28] <zenof> at least in my use case, still I don't get why this would be important to the question whether to download updates during installation or not.
[22:31] <Exterminador> hello guys. not sure if the right place but for some reason, `snap install name<tab>` doesn't autocomplete
[22:32] <Ralapapa> Hi guys, i just installed Ubuntu 21.10 on a laptop with Ryzen 4 4600H and i have no audio (shows dummy audio)
[22:32] <Ralapapa> Ryzen 5 4600H :-)
[22:32] <zenof> Exterminador: release and shell?
[22:33] <Ralapapa> Is audio supposed to work yet with the Ryzen 5 4600H?
[22:33] <Ralapapa> lspci gives me "03:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio Controller
[22:33] <Ralapapa> "
[22:34] <Exterminador> zenof: Ubuntu 20.04 and bash shell. output of env: https://paste.debian.net/1221279/
[22:35] <zenof> Ralapapa: output of 'pactl list sinks short' ?
[22:35] <Exterminador> (since apparently paste.ubuntu.com needs people to login)
[22:36] <Ralapapa> zenof 0    auto_null    module-null-sink.c    s16le 2ch 44100Hz    SUSPENDED
[22:37] <Ralapapa> i found something on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver "The open source AMDGPU driver does not support (for now) the HDMI audio. To solve this problem, you can install che "hybrid" AMDGPU-Pro driver from AMD"
[22:43] <zenof> Exterminador: okay, can't reproduce that, sorry. completion on other things works?
[22:45] <Exterminador> zenof: it does, but not on snaps apparently. e.g. I should just `snap install certb<tab>` and it should autocomplete to certbot
[22:45] <Exterminador> it's really weird though
[23:15] <Exterminador> need to sleep. laters