[00:07] <maxzor> Hello, when will a wayland compositor be the default display server on ubuntu?
[00:08] <VMGuy23> it is in 21.10
[00:09] <jcbjoe2021> What are good hours to ask for support here? I know the weekends aren't good
[00:10] <jcbjoe2021> ?
[00:10] <croraf> jcbjoe2021, bru, just ask the uestion
[00:10] <maxzor> ask and see? I asked and got a response in 40s - thanks
[00:11] <jcbjoe2021> Ok thanks croraf
[00:11] <jcbjoe2021> I haven't been in pure Linux in a long time. Got my laptop on Friday and put on Ubuntu  using i3
[00:51] <kjani> Good Morning Everybody !
[04:14] <Sven_vB> in focal, is there an easy way to add an icon widget to xfce4-panel that I can type into and have the letters sent to my shell script, and control the widget's icon using shell commands?
[04:16] <Sven_vB> I could probably also use Unicode emoji characters instead of icons
[04:37] <yukiup> conky?
[04:37] <yukiup> idk
[04:49] <Sven_vB> wow, that seems to be the emacs of panel widgets. :D
[04:49] <Sven_vB> yukiup, thanks!
[06:20] <Mibix> so i used the ubuntu software installer to install sabnzbd and now it cant be removed
[06:20] <Mibix> says it cant find the package
[06:28] <toddc> Mibix: snap see  https://www.simplified.guide/ubuntu/remove-snapd
[06:28] <toddc> unless you installed it from a ppa
[06:30] <Mibix> i got it from synaptic package manager :D
[06:33] <toddc> Mibix: not used synaptic in a logn time that may be part of it  run snap list and see if it is listed first
[07:21] <tsujp> my wifi adapter keeps disappearing on ubuntu 20.04; it's a thinkpad x13 and the wifi is an intel wifi6 ax200
[07:21] <tsujp> I can tether my phone and get internet back via USB tethering but this is really frustrating and none of the things I can find via  google of "ubuntu ax200 wifi adapter missing" fix it
[07:21] <tsujp> Can anyone help me here?
[07:59] <spotter> can the ubuntu installer install boot on a different drive?  (i.e. HP DL380P's P420 in HBA mode doesn't enable any of its normal backplane removable to be booted.  It seems what one should do is install a usb (not good for active use, but should be fine for /boot) and have it boot off of that and use the then resolvable backplane drives for / or what not drives
[08:06] <Mibix> i am trying to set up a mount in fstab and I am doing something wrong because i cant access any of the folders where it mounts /mnt /media/mibix-module none defaults,bind,rw 0 0
[08:08] <EriC^^>  what happens when you try 'sudo mount /mnt'
[08:10] <Mibix> i think you mean sudo mount /media/mibix-module
[08:10] <EriC^^> yeah, you're right
[08:10] <Mibix> it makes the folder and i can see folders inside
[08:10] <Mibix> but they all dont have anything in them
[08:10] <Mibix> 0 access
[08:11] <EriC^^> maybe you have to set it rwx ?
[08:11] <Mibix> think i need to add uid and/or gid
[08:11] <EriC^^> Mibix: could you give an example line out of 'ls -l' ?
[08:12] <Mibix> its all mounted as root heh
[08:12] <Mibix> noone else has access to folders
[08:12] <EriC^^> aha
[08:12] <EriC^^> so if you do 'sudo -i' and try to access it all works fine?
[08:13] <EriC^^> Mibix: i dont think you can give it a uid and stuff, if it's mount binding /mnt i think you have to see that filesystem's properties and mount options and stuff
[08:14] <EriC^^> what fs is /mnt?
[08:15] <SteelRose> Hi all! I creater a local repo, apt-mirror completes fine... my nginx config points to the /repos directory... then I created a soft-link from /var/www/html/ubuntu to /repos/ubuntu ... this worked fine but now it does not.  apt clients complain with "The repository http://foobar/ubuntu focal Release" does not have a Release file ... which is not true... Ideas? Thanks
[08:15] <Mibix> EriC^^ i dunno what fs is yours lol
[08:16] <EriC^^> fs is filesystem
[08:16] <Mibix> i know
[08:16] <Mibix> as far as i know everything on my system is ext4
[08:16] <EriC^^> Mibix: try "mount | grep mnt"
[08:17] <Mibix> all ext4 in there
[08:18] <EriC^^> ok, if the permissions aren't important or it's OS related or something you could chown it all to whatever user you wanted, or set the permissions so it's accessible by everyone
[08:18] <EriC^^> "chmod -R 777 /mnt" to change permissions so everyone can access
[08:18] <EriC^^> sudo chmod..
[08:19] <EriC^^> *it's not OS related
[08:20] <Mibix> in /mnt the permissions are already there they just arent staying with the bind
[08:20] <Mibix> fstab is mounting at as root and its breaking verything
[08:22] <EriC^^> can you give a line from "ls -l /mnt" ?
[08:23] <Mibix> even if i chown it nothing will happen
[08:23] <EriC^^> fstab doesnt mount as root, with ext4 the permissions are a part of the fs, not like ntfs etc where you can set them on mounting (cause those are fake ones and the fs doesnt have them saved)
[08:23] <EriC^^> nah something will happen :D
[08:23] <Mibix> drwxr-xr-x 5 mibix mibix 4096 Nov  4 14:29 E
[08:24] <EriC^^> ok and what about "ls -ld /mnt" ?
[08:25] <Mibix> even if i chown in the new location it doesnt do anything
[08:25] <Mibix> drwxrwxr-x 34 root sonarr 4096 Sep 17  2019 /mnt
[08:26] <EriC^^> ok, so now try 'ls -ld /media/..../E'
[08:28] <Mibix> drwxr-xr-x 2 mibix mibix 4096 Oct 17 05:00 /media/mibix-module/E
[08:28] <Mibix> since i chowned it
[08:28] <EriC^^> ?
[08:28] <EriC^^> ok so "ls -l /media/...E" now works?
[08:28] <Mibix> nope
[08:28] <Mibix> still nothing
[08:29] <EriC^^> what exactly does it say when you do it
[08:29] <Mibix> total 0
[08:29] <Mibix> already pasted what it said with -ld
[08:30] <EriC^^> ok is something mounted under E ?
[08:30] <Mibix> its a whole hard drive
[08:30] <Mibix> and it shows up in /mnt/E just fine....
[08:31] <EriC^^> yeah that wont work
[08:31] <Mibix> ive noticed...
[08:32] <EriC^^> you need to rbind it
[08:32] <EriC^^> just tried it here, with mount -R it works, not sure what the fstab line is, probably rbind
[08:34] <Mibix> omg
[08:35] <Mibix> do i need to do an automount on that?
[08:36] <EriC^^> did you change bind to rbind in fstab?
[08:36] <EriC^^> ah you mean if you should automount "E" ? yeah
[08:37] <weedmic> I have to resize 48 media.  I do the following in parted, select /dev/sdb p resizepart 1 31.9GB p (to see it worked) quit - my question is.  Is there a one line command I can do at a console to do those steps I do inside parted?
[08:37] <Mibix> its not just E
[08:37] <Mibix> its all my drives i want mounted
[08:37] <EriC^^> then add them all
[08:41] <Mibix> i dont get where i add the automount thing in the fstab entry
[08:41] <EriC^^> defaults,auto
[08:42] <EriC^^> you want to add the other mounts after the initial /mnt
[08:42] <weedmic> i have found nothing about using parted outside the tool
[08:44] <Mibix> what are you talking about its just 1 mount? /mnt /media/mibix-module ext4 defaults,rbind 0 0
[08:45] <Mibix> it was working for a second grrrrrr
[08:47] <EriC^^> Mibix: i meant the sub mounts, .../E etc
[08:47] <Mibix> why do i have to do submounts
[08:47] <Mibix> i thought rbind was recursive
[08:48] <EriC^^> you said you wanted all your drives mounted, how do you expect it to know that
[08:48] <Mibix> because they are all already mounted in /mnt
[08:49] <Mibix> i just want to be able to access them from another location
[08:49] <EriC^^> right now, yeah but if you want it all done on boot?
[08:49] <Mibix> its one folder
[08:49] <EriC^^> ok
[08:49] <Mibix> i want bound to another place
[08:50] <EriC^^> Mibix> do i need to do an automount on that? Mibix> its all my drives i want mounted
[08:50] <Mibix> my drives already mount to /mnt
[08:50] <Mibix> i want them to be accessible in /media/mibix-module too but it wont work
[08:54] <EriC^^> did you mount them after the rbind? cause that wont work i guess
[08:56] <Mibix>  dude
[08:56] <Mibix> im only messing with the rbind line
[08:56] <EriC^^> what's confusing ffs
[08:57] <Mibix> that the rbind line isnt working....
[08:57] <Mibix> still cant get in to subdirectories
[08:58] <EriC^^> type 'sudo umount /media/mibix-module && sudo mount -R /mnt /media/mibix-module'
[08:58] <EriC^^> cd out of any dirs if you're in any
[08:58] <EriC^^> in /media/mibix-module
[09:00] <Mibix> im restarting
[09:00] <Mibix> i swear this worked for a second
[09:08] <Mibix> omg it worked
[09:08] <Mibix> it must have been that forced umount i did
[09:09] <Mibix> thanks EriC^^ i think we were completely misunderstanding eachother the whole time  but we got it haha
[09:11] <EriC^^> Mibix: great, no problem
[10:04] <xu-irc86w> hello, so i see the blue mode in the monitor color conf app, what does it do? i just see the screen went a lil cold or what u say, is this good? while all other settings doesnt function in conf
[10:06] <KBar> xu-irc86w, are you running Xubuntu?
[10:06] <xu-irc86w> yes
[10:06] <KBar> Join #xubuntu.
[12:24] <linnet> Hi, What is the command to use to change the passphrase for an encrypted drive on Ubuntu 20.04.
[12:24] <linnet> I do know the current passphrase.
[12:26] <cbreak> how did you encrypt it?
[12:27] <linnet> cbreak, during installation.
[12:28] <cbreak> A normal or a zfs one? I think the normal one can be controlled via cryptsetup, the man page of that mentions luksChangeKey
[12:28] <cbreak> but I don't know if that's the way Ubuntu intends users to interact with it
[12:29] <linnet> It is almost certainly Ext4. Small chance that it is XFS. Machine not with me right now so cannot check.
[12:30] <linnet> Thanks for the pointers. I will check out both and see if any of them works for me.
[13:32] <pagios> hello is letsencrypt still valid ? it is giving me R3 violation on new certs
[13:42] <ogra_> pagios, definitely still valid ... make sure to have your ca-certificates package up to date, there were root certs expiring recently ....
[13:43] <pagios> i see
[13:43] <pagios> ogra_: how can i do that? i am using upgrade
[13:43] <pagios> and update
[13:43] <ogra_> that should be enough
[13:44] <pagios> ogra_: need to recall certbot ?
[13:44] <pagios> reexecute i mean
[13:44] <pagios> coz i already did before the upgrade update
[13:45] <brontosaurusrex> hello
[13:46] <ogra_> perhaps ... i'm no cert specialist ... i just know that there were some issues recently where plenty of servers were behind on refreshing their certs and caused denials/violation notices
[13:46] <ogra_> ... same for clients that were not up to date
[13:50] <pagios> still getting certiifcation not valid
[13:57] <weq> Anyone able to guide me how I should approach an issue where `reboot` causes the filesystem to dirty somehow...? Shutdown -h now works but reboot causes it to just boot straight into busybox where I need to run fsck manually.
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> weq: can you find more clues on reboot, pressing F1 to switch to text reboot?
[14:01] <weq> https://imgur.com/a/BAALynf
[14:02] <weq> I don't know if that helps in any way.
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> hmm a weird one weq not sure whats going on, maybe disk tools a smart test on your hd(s)?
[14:06] <weq> smart tests is just fine afaik, did a long test with smartctl etc.
[14:06] <weq> The disk has only like 80 hours of run time. 0 bad sectors etc.
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> weq: wihc ubuntu release/kernel version is this?
[14:09] <weq> 18.04
[14:09] <weq> Linux ksa4910966 4.15.0-162-generic #170-Ubuntu SMP Mon Oct 18 11:38:05 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> weq: try update, when did this start to happen? after some updates?
[14:11] <weq> We can't update this to a newer version yet because of software compatabilities as of now.
[14:12] <weq> It happens after a fresh install of 18.04. I'm curious if it is tied to some hardware or power management of some sort.
[14:12] <weq> It happens with same kind of machines with a specific serial number. And older version of the same machine works just fine.
[14:25] <ydobon> hi, lets say i have a machine with two bootable hard drives, one hard drive have ubuntu installed and the other drive have different OS, when ubuntu receive kernel update it run grub update in order to tell grub to point to the new kernel image,how can i ensure that grub update install grub on the hard drive that contain ubuntu and not the hard drive that contain the other OS ?
[14:26] <cbreak> ydobon: it should be installed on the EFI partition that's mounted to /boot/efi in /etc/fstab
[14:26] <ydobon> and the mount is dynamic ?
[14:26] <ydobon> so would it know the correct hard disk ?
[14:33] <if> hello
[14:44] <roflbot> Hi guys, I got some questions about a apache version. They claim its vulnerable to sereval attacks, if not how to refute? :)
[14:44] <roflbot> apache2  2.4.29-1ubuntu4.19
[14:45] <roflbot> its got the last patch from bionic lts, vanilla install from bionic repository
[14:48] <Maik> it will or probably has been patched so nothing to worry about i guess
[14:48] <roflbot> I guess too
[14:49] <Maik> i don't see anything here https://ubuntu.com/security/notices
[14:55] <roflbot> thanks Maik!
[15:15] <pagios> hi  all, so i have a *.domain.com certificate issued from comodo, can i create a new CA put that root certificate on it, nd generate server.domain.com etc ?
[15:20] <mh3f> @pagios: no, you won't be able to do that. The certificate you get isn't a root certificate
[15:20] <cbreak> pagios: if you create a root certificate, you're the only one that will accept it.
[15:20] <pagios> can i create a root certificate for my public domain ?
[15:20] <pagios> am i allowed to do so ?
[15:21] <pagios> or it alwasy have to be one of versign and built in browsers  thing?
[15:21] <leftyfb> pagios: https://letsencrypt.org/
[15:21] <mh3f> @pagios: yeah, you can do whatever you want. Other people won't automatically trust it though.
[15:21] <pagios> mh3f: idea is to have the trust from any browser without getting the warning
[15:21] <pagios> if i need to do that, i cant host a root cert righT?
[15:22] <pagios> needs to be one lf the built in one in the browser?
[15:23] <leftyfb> pagios: what is your end goal here?
[15:23] <mh3f> you can add it to their trust store if you have control of their PC like a company PC
[15:23] <pagios> i dont own the pcs
[15:24] <brandoneliza> Not really a support question but curious how nload works does it capture bandwidth usage for the whole session
[15:24] <leftyfb> pagios: If you're just trying to add https to your websites/applications, just use letsencrypt
[15:24] <brandoneliza> closing and reopening or using multiple instances gives same results
[15:25] <pagios> no! i need to use my own ca not letsencrypt
[15:25] <Guest50> so my tip when You have speakers attached to pc is to always run silence.wav
[15:25] <Guest50> in background
[15:25] <Guest50> but this should not be an issue
[15:28] <mh3f> pagios: you don't have a lot of options. What's the reason you cannot use something like Let's Encrypt?
[15:38] <mh3f> brandoneliza: I just installed nload and ran strace on it. It's read from /sys/class/net/enp0s25/statistics/*  (where enp0s25 is the interface)
[15:38] <mh3f> reading
[15:40] <mh3f> pagios: here is a discussion of why LE doesn't offer intermediate certificates https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/does-lets-encrypt-offer-intermediate-certificates/71957/6
[15:40] <mh3f> it'd be awesome if they did
[15:52] <n-iCe> guys do we have x ray softwares? I need a dental radiovisiograph hardware to work in linux
[15:59] <brandoneliza> n-iCe: not that I know of. Just check if your haerdware vendor provides such
[16:38] <Sven_vB> hi :) On focal, I'm trying to make my gnome-terminal show the U+27BF Double curly loop character. whether I paste it, or generate it with "echo -e '\u27BF'", the resulting character always looks like a wide character made of an arrow to the right and a space character. what's wrong?
[16:43] <ioria> Sven_vB, probably your Encoding settings
[17:14] <Sven_vB> ioria, how do I check them? I have LANG=en_US.UTF-8, and another character from the same Unicode block, U+27BD Heavy wedge-tailed rightward arrow, is printed with no problems
[17:41] <alkisg> Sven_vB: which font are you using in the settings? It shows up fine here in MATE 22.04
[17:43] <leftyfb> alkisg: 22.04?
[17:44] <alkisg> Yup, trying to report any issues early...
[17:47] <Sven_vB> alkisg, [x] Custom Font: Monospace Regular 10
[17:47] <alkisg> Sven_vB: try unchecking that, to use the system font
[17:59] <Guest4100> good afternoon. I am trying to create an autorun usb stick for my ubuntu 20.04 and have been googling for 2 days. nothing i find even comes close to working, can someone help me
[18:04] <Sven_vB> alkisg, unchecking the box only makes the font smaller, but the characters stay the same.
[18:05] <dablitz> I am running 20.04
[18:05] <alkisg> Sven_vB: and which font is it using now, which one is the default one in gnome?
[18:05] <Sven_vB> dablitz, I'd try a systemd path unit to trigger a one-shot service
[18:06] <Sven_vB> dablitz, what are you trying to accomplish with the autorun? maybe there's a less dangerous way than actual autostart
[18:06] <alkisg> Sven_vB: try ubuntu monospace
[18:08] <dablitz> @Sven_vB what I am trying to do is install a bash script on my father in law pc without having internet connection. he live in a rural area and can recieve the script via email at work. so i do not know what the product/vender ID of the USB stick he will use.
[18:08] <dablitz> it is a simple script to install some update debs
[18:08] <dablitz> he will get the debs and this script via email and just plug it in
[18:09] <Sven_vB> dablitz, you can format the USB thumb drive with a GUID Partition Table (GPT) and address the partition by UUID via /dev/disk/by-partuuid/
[18:10] <Sven_vB> dablitz, having him execute a script received via email seems a bad idea anyway
[18:10] <dablitz> ok how would suggest i pull this one off. he has no internet at home
[18:12] <dablitz> if I could do this via long rang HF ham radio I would do that, but that is not going to happen
[18:12] <alkisg> Have him double click on the stick icon, then double click the "my-deb-installer.sh", then select "yes, execute"
[18:12] <Sven_vB> well, as long as you have him verify the received script with a strong hash checksum, it should be ok
[18:12] <Sven_vB> yeah if you can send him the USB thumb drive over a phsically secure channel that would also work
[18:13] <Sven_vB> if you have crypto-signed email that should be ok as well
[18:14] <dablitz> guys he is 70 years old and not very computer savvy. knows everything there is about amature radio, but hand him a keyboard....that is another story
[18:15] <dablitz> that is why I am trying to make this as easy as possible for him
[18:15] <Sven_vB> alkisg, now using Ubuntu Mono Regular 12. characters look the same as before. I guess "Monospace" was an alias for Ubuntu Mono Regular.
[18:15] <Sven_vB> alkisg, I'm running gnome-terminal in xfce4 though. could that be the problem?
[18:15] <alkisg> Sven_vB: that's on ubuntu gnome-terminal 20.04
[18:15] <alkisg> ? ok
[18:16] <alkisg> No it shouldn't be the problem, unless you're missing the font
[18:16] <Sven_vB> GNOME Terminal 3.36.2 using VTE 0.60.3 +BIDI +GNUTLS +ICU +SYSTEMD
[18:16] <alkisg> I wonder if 22.04 has a newer version of the font that contains that character... let me see in a previous version...
[18:16] <Sven_vB> on Ubuntu focal
[18:16] <Sven_vB> well, that character should have been in Dingbats since the inception of Unicode
[18:18] <alkisg> Dingbat fonts will certainly NOT work in a terminal, since they have symbols in the alphanumeric positions
[18:18] <Sven_vB> alkisg, Dingbats is the Unicode block name
[18:18] <alkisg> Well, unless you echo the wrong character, which maps there
[18:18] <alkisg> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingbat
[18:18] <alkisg> > in the computer industry, a Dingbat font is a font that has symbols and shapes in the positions designated for alphabetical or numeric characters
[18:19] <alkisg> I thought you were talking about the font, not the unicode block
[18:19] <Sven_vB> oh I see
[18:20] <alkisg> Sven_vB: it works fine in an ubuntu 20.04 live cd
[18:20] <alkisg> (gnome)
[18:20] <Sven_vB> odd, in Wikipedia I can only find Ornamental Dingbats as the Unicode block, which is way higher in the character range
[18:21] <Sven_vB> alkisg, that's odd. thanks for the hint. I'll try and figure out what font it uses there
[18:22] <Sven_vB> found "my" Dingbats block, too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingbat#Unicode
[18:23] <alkisg> Sven_vB: it works on the xubuntu 21.04 live cd too. Another thing you could try would be to `adduser test1`, and login as test1; if it works there, then you have some broken user settings
[18:25] <maxzor_> Is it normal that my do-release-upgrades plans to move from 20.04 to 21.04 and not 20.10?
[18:25] <maxzor_> afaik I am on focal and it proposes me to automatically upgrade to hirsute
[18:27] <leftyfb> maxzor_: 20.10 is EOL. 21.04 will be EOL in January
[18:27] <maxzor_> I'm concerned because it does not work hehe. But given the awful mess of third-party repositories, snaps, flatpaks and stuff that I did I am not too surprised
[18:28] <maxzor_> ah...
[18:28] <maxzor_> maybe I forgot to upgrade for a bit too long then :/
[18:28] <maxzor_> no other way than clean install?
[18:28] <leftyfb> maxzor_: I would recommend waiting till 22.04 is out in April
[18:29] <leftyfb> maxzor_: 20.04 is supported for 5 years
[18:29] <maxzor_> 21.10 is out right?
[18:30] <maxzor_> I am interested in upgrading "early" from my LTS because I was told that wayland was by default with 21.10+
[18:30] <leftyfb> maxzor_: sure, though that will be EOL in July. Non-LTS releases are only supported for 9 months
[18:32] <maxzor_> thank you
[18:40] <sem> what is /home/user/.ssh/environment? re: https://gist.github.com/tstellanova/76ee01c1599d9a9433cf
[18:41] <sem> I don't see it in my home directory, so I don't know if that command will work: SSH_ENV=$HOME/.ssh/environment  #setup ssh-agent
[18:42] <sarnold> sem: it's ready by the pam_env PAM module http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man8/pam_env.8.html
[18:42] <sarnold> s/ready/read/
[18:43] <sem> does it need to be present in .ssh for that to work? Because my .ssh/ doesn't have a file called that (It is in a cloud-based IDE)
[18:43] <sincorchetes> Hi all, I cannot compress and rotate logs with logrotate. I have this issue here: https://pastebin.com/gb95nBPB
[18:44] <sarnold> sem: if you want it to be used when logging in via sshd, check /etc/pam.d/sshd to see if it's configured
[18:44] <sem> sarnold, I'm basically trying to start ssh-agent automatically when I log in. But I don't have root on this machine
[18:45] <sarnold> sincorchetes: looks like it worked fine?
[18:45] <sarnold> sincorchetes: wrong paste?
[18:45] <sem> and /etc/pam.d/sshd does not exist on my system
[18:45] <sarnold> sem: ah, then you're doing something else *entirely* :)
[18:46] <sincorchetes> sarnold, https://pastebin.com/raw/gb95nBPB
[18:46] <sarnold> sem: normally the desktop environment starts the various agents when they start up -- what DE or WM are you using?
[18:46] <sarnold> sincorchetes: which line exactly looks wrong to you?
[18:47] <sem> I believe it is called "Cloud 9" and it is run by AWS. It's running ubuntu 20.04. The specific instance is ide.cs50.io
[18:47] <sincorchetes> sarnold, hola.log is not compressed, and tells these is renaming to hola.log.1 but It is a lie, this file is not exists only hola.log
[18:47] <sem> I found this helpfile useful: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cloud9/latest/user-guide/env-vars.html but still not sure exactly what to put in there to start ssh-agent
[18:48] <sarnold> sem: oh wild
[18:49] <sincorchetes> I removed the hola.log entries of /var/lib/logrotate/status but still does not work
[18:49] <sem> it's one of those things where it doesn't take me that much time to do 'eval `ssh-agent -s`; ssh-add` So I should probably just do that instead of waste time trying to do admin stuff on a system where I only have a user account
[18:50] <ssh-agent> heh
[18:51] <sem> didn't know I'd summon you! How would you invoke yourself in a .bash-profile?
[18:53] <sarnold> sem: hmm, ~/.bash_profile would only work if a shell session is used while spawning whatever it is that this thing is..
[18:53] <sarnold> ssh-agent: hah :)
[18:53] <sem> sarnold, well I found out that it DOES work for adding ~/bin to my path
[18:54] <sem> PATH=~/bin:$PATH or something like that
[18:54] <sarnold> sem: did you test it by starting a shell? or by trying to execute something in your custom PATH via alt+f2 or windows+r or whatever the keyboard shortcut is for "run a command"? :)
[18:55] <sarnold> sincorchetes: so.. delaycompress says "Postpone  compression  of the previous log file to the next rotation cycle. " -- perhaps that means it'll compress hola.1 to hola.2.gz on the *next* call?
[18:55] <sem> sarnold, when I go to ide.cs50.io and log in, I get a terminal at the bottom of the screen. If I type "echo $PATH" I see that it's part of the path in that terminal, and any other terminal windows I create
[18:55] <sem> I'm not exactly sure what shell means
[18:56] <sem> I think these terminal windows are all tmux under the hood
[18:56] <leftyfb> sounds like a highly modified version of linux based on ubuntu
[18:57] <sem> it's literally a web-based ide! Pretty wild
[18:57] <sarnold> sem: hmmm... *ages* ago, I used the keychain package for something very similar to this -- it'd help manage a single ssh-agent via ~/.bash_profile files -- I bet that'd do the trick  -- https://www.funtoo.org/Keychain
[18:58] <sem> I was wondering if I could download it and put it in my ~/bin, since I don't have root :D
[18:58] <sem> I'll mess around on my own a bit and see if I can get something working
[19:02] <sincorchetes> sarnold, I just only want compress the file nothing more X_X
[19:05] <sarnold> sincorchetes: maybe remove the 'delaycompress' command then?
[19:10] <sincorchetes> I got this: https://pastebin.com/raw/uvZbfxZA pfff That's not renaming and not compress
[19:11] <sarnold> sincorchetes: okay, so at least the log is showing the right stuff now. try running it with strace: strace -o /tmp/logrotate.out -f logrotate -fd /etc/logrotate.d/mine   -- and then we can look through the strace output to see where it went wrong
[19:18] <sem> I am pretty sure putting that script in .bash_profile worked :D
[19:18] <sarnold> sem: woot!
[19:19] <sem> yeah; we'll see if it develops problems over time, but opened a new shell and ssh-add -l acts correctly for now
[19:19] <sarnold> sem: nice nice
[19:32] <SilverFox> Heyo! Im playing around with ubuntu frame and its pretty cool, works fine and i did the tutorial with the webage kit
[19:32] <SilverFox> i want to make my own program, but i dont want to do snap packaging... can i use maybe xforwarding instead?
[19:35] <sarnold> SilverFox: those seem like orthogonal issues to me; my guess is X forwarding isn't going to work great on a wayland protocol display server
[19:36] <leftyfb> also, pretty sure this is built off of ubuntu core, which is snap-only
[19:36] <SilverFox> sarnold, oh, i thought i could run an x server layer
[19:37] <SilverFox> leftyfb, im using ubuntu server on a pi rn
[19:37] <sarnold> SilverFox: you mean something like xnest but with wayland? hmm. normally embedded stuff doesn't have a ton of memory to spend on extra layers. does yours?
[19:44] <SilverFox> sarnold, it does, but you have a point... maybe i should learn snaps...
[19:44] <SilverFox> sarnold, my distribution dosent normally do snap-stuff, but i could learn, maybe fire up an ubuntu vm
[19:44] <SilverFox> thanks for the advice~
[19:47] <sarnold> SilverFox: yeah, makes sense; hopefully snap packaging is low effort enough that it's not a big deal to test out frame end-to-end..
[19:49] <SilverFox> sarnold, im sure i can figure out a workflow, i think there was a way to simulate ubuntu-frame in a window on wayland for like, developing reasons
[19:49] <SilverFox> cool stuff~ thank you!
[19:49] <sarnold> SilverFox: woot :) have fun :)
[20:06] <noarb-> does anyone know if there is an archive for voices.canonical.com? I'm not really sure what that is/was. I was looking for this page: http://voices.canonical.com/jussi.pakkanen/2013/04/16/why-you-should-consider-using-separate-build-directories/
[20:14] <sarnold> noarb-: https://web.archive.org/web/20190715081007/http://voices.canonical.com/jussi.pakkanen/2013/04/16/why-you-should-consider-using-separate-build-directories/  :)
[20:19] <dev4449> Hi. Good day.
[20:19] <noarb-> sarnold: ah, I didn't know it was personal pages, I saw this url linked in a meson page and was wondering if there were other articles to browse there. probably not :) thanks!
[20:19] <dev4449> I accidentally deleted "Login" in Passwords and Keys system application.
[20:20] <dev4449> Should I be worried about this? Is there anything I should do ?
[20:25] <dev4449> I followed this guide: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1027570/default-keyrings-login-folder-deleted
[20:25] <dev4449> And did the instructions it mentions
[20:27] <sarnold> dev4449: oh nice, I hadn't seen this before
[20:27] <dev4449> sarnold: Seen what?
[20:28] <sarnold> dev4449: well, a lot of it ;) I don't know the passwords and keys application, didn't know that there was a 'login' thing there that would be persistent, etc
[20:28] <dev4449> okay
[21:10] <vlm> How to know if a raid controller is possibly failing? Had one time multiple errors related in dmesg, then after reboot its gone, seems fine when writing to disks, any other approach to this?
[22:38] <uel> kdeinit5 keep crashing on kubuntu 20.04, how do I fix this?
[22:56] <coraxx> hello there ...here is a question ... how do I create/customize MIME types in Ubuntu ? (10 years ago there was a GUI application called 'assogiate' ..is it still there or maybe an alternative ?
[23:20] <sarnold> uel: are there any messages in your ~/.xsession-errors or journalctl output that looks related?
[23:23] <uel> it gives me a log to report, seems like it's related to thumbnail generation
[23:24] <uel> everytime a thumbnail is generated, kdeinit5 crashes
[23:24] <sarnold> coraxx: my guess is that you probably want /etc/mailcap* files instead of /etc/mime.types -- see update-mime(8) manpage. it's not exactly friendly, a gui tool to help would probably be a good idea..
[23:24] <sarnold> uel: oh. ew. that probably happens a lot
[23:24] <uel> yes, it's so annoying
[23:26] <coraxx> sarnold: yeah GUI ... but I can't seem to find any.  And assoGiate is no longer distributed
[23:28] <sarnold> deleted 2013.. dead upstream since 2007 :( https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=708762
[23:31] <coraxx> sarnold: it worked for me ...used it "precise" .... I don't mind them removing it ...as long as they replace it... MIME-type management is too tricky to do manually in CLI as there are more hoops to go through and no "overview"
[23:31] <coraxx> *used it in "precise"
[23:33] <sarnold> coraxx: the number of times I've seen gimp try to open a pdf.. *sigh*
[23:33] <genii> heh
[23:33] <coraxx> sarnold: :-)
[23:34] <coraxx> sarnold: (luckily pdf-MIMEType has already be defined, so a simple file-association does the trick)
[23:34] <coraxx> *be=been
[23:44] <mmx_in_orbit> is there any way to run a program/app that supposedly requires OpenGL 4.0 but i have no graphics card at all? can the opengl 4.0 "requirement" just be ignored?
[23:45] <mmx_in_orbit> maybe make it try it's best to continue on as much as it can?
[23:46] <sarnold> maybe https://virgil3d.github.io/ ?
[23:47] <mmx_in_orbit> all i need is command line