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| mapreri | teward: I'd rather we keep it doing every fortnight and at most just decide to adjourn to the next one quickly, than mess with the cycle :) | 14:19 |
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| juliank | o/ | 16:00 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 16:00 |
| dbungert | o/ | 16:00 |
| mclemenceau | o/ | 16:00 |
| bdmurray | o/ | 16:00 |
| slyon | o/ | 16:00 |
| schopin | o/ | 16:00 |
| bdmurray | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 16:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 16:00:45 UTC. The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 16:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick | 16:00 |
| ginggs | o/ | 16:00 |
| bdmurray | #topic Lightning Round | 16:00 |
| bdmurray | doing the shuffle | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | bdmurray alexghiti jawn-smith vorlon schopin juliank dbungert ginggs mwhudson sil2100 waveform doko slyon xypron | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | some cdimage changes for the Intel IoT project | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | modified the phased-updater to support fully phasing of some packages (livecd-rootfs!) | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | redeployed the PS5 version of the Error Tracker to test IS's changes | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | merged, sponsored SRU fixes for LP: #1946520 | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | sponsored uploads of openvdb, nemo, clamtk, u-boot, evolution-ews, libayatana-indicator, debootstrap, testresources, gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons, ocrfeeder | 16:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1946520 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu Impish) "magic-proxy does not gracefully handle error conditions" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946520 | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | sync'ed ustreamer, pikepdf | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | sponsored debmirror for jammy | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | reported Launchpad bug regarding copying packages LP: #1952776 | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | wrote a bug pattern for LP: #1944086, consolidated duplicates of it | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | more training | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | interview | 16:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1952776 in Launchpad itself "Launchpad internal error email regarding copying package should contain more details" [Low, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1952776 | 16:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1944086 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "rsyslogd crashed with SIGABRT in IO_validate_vtable()" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1944086 | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | alex is out | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | jawn-smith: | 16:02 |
| jawn-smith | short week due to Thanksgiving | 16:02 |
| jawn-smith | * no change rebuilds against go 1.17 - 47 packages built against Go 1.16 now down to 7 | 16:02 |
| jawn-smith | * LP: #1951161 merged shadow from Debian | 16:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1951161 in shadow (Ubuntu) "Please merge shadow 1:4.8.1-2 (main) from Debian unstable" [Wishlist, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1951161 | 16:02 |
| jawn-smith | * LP: #1945812 sponsored librabbitmq for schopin | 16:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1945812 in librabbitmq (Ubuntu) "librabbitmq: Fail to build against OpenSSL 3.0" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1945812 | 16:02 |
| jawn-smith | * LP: #1951439 synced golang-defaults from Debian. Mostly just manpage updates | 16:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1951439 in golang-defaults (Ubuntu) "Sync golang-defaults 2:1.17~1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1951439 | 16:02 |
| jawn-smith | * LP: #1937055 sponsoring for xypron | 16:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1937055 in opensbi (Ubuntu) "OpenSBI: system reset support missing for HiFive Unmatched" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1937055 | 16:02 |
| jawn-smith | * proposed-migration: lava vs psycopg2 | 16:02 |
| jawn-smith | * Preparing Nezha board for RISC-V summit | 16:02 |
| jawn-smith | [done] | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | jawn-smith: didn't something else special happen? | 16:03 |
| schopin | naaaah, a detail really. | 16:03 |
| bdmurray | vorlon might be out | 16:03 |
| bdmurray | schopin: | 16:03 |
| jawn-smith | bdmurray: yes, became a core dev :) | 16:03 |
| schopin | * OpenSSL all the way, uploading rebuilds, fixing FTBFSes. | 16:03 |
| schopin | ✓ done | 16:03 |
| bdmurray | juliank: | 16:03 |
| juliank | * was out Friday | 16:04 |
| juliank | * autopkgtest-cloud rabbitmq died over the weekend, restarted | 16:04 |
| juliank | * grub 2.06 merge started Monday, seems close to complete-ish | 16:04 |
| juliank | (done) | 16:04 |
| dbungert | * curtin - add filter layer to output of new lsblk to be compatible with old | 16:04 |
| dbungert | behavior. Required for Jammy support. LP: #1952226 | 16:04 |
| dbungert | * curtin vs rocky linux - add fix from Julien to act on the os-release file to | 16:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1952226 in curtin "'Unexpected error while running command.' when deploying jammy images with MAAS" [Undecided, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1952226 | 16:04 |
| dbungert | recognize new variants like ones we already know how to handle. LP: #1934513 | 16:04 |
| dbungert | * curtin - start release process, will finish once MP for prev item resolved. | 16:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1934513 in curtin "support for rocky linux" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1934513 | 16:04 |
| dbungert | * subiquity vs focal/bionic - python links in the snap were resolving to python | 16:04 |
| dbungert | in the host OS, which mangled lookup of python packages. | 16:04 |
| dbungert | https://github.com/canonical/subiquity/pull/1129 | 16:04 |
| ubottu | Pull 1129 in canonical/subiquity "snapcraft: remove python links from snap bin dir" [Merged] | 16:04 |
| dbungert | * subiquity - investigate LP: #1952545 and open the restrictions on MSDOS | 16:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1952545 in subiquity (Ubuntu) "Subsiquity Installer fails during verification of pre-partitioned MBR" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1952545 | 16:04 |
| dbungert | partitions a little. We need better MSDOS partition table support. | 16:04 |
| dbungert | * subiquity - investigate API test breakage, tweak makefile | 16:04 |
| dbungert | * subiquity vs u-u - triage LP: #1952407, related to metered connection. Plan | 16:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1952407 in subiquity "unattended upgrades failure on metered connection" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1952407 | 16:04 |
| dbungert | is to fail other u-u errors but not treat metered as an install failure. | 16:04 |
| dbungert | * subiquity - help on release notes and testing of release. Found LP: #1952969 | 16:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1952969 in subiquity "openssh not actually installed" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1952969 | 16:04 |
| dbungert | * node-jquery vs skimage - find a working set of package triggers, passing test | 16:04 |
| dbungert | * numpy vs python-meshplex - fix unrelated FTBFS (Debian #997756), | 16:04 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 997756 in src:python-meshplex "python-meshplex: FTBFS: sed: no input files" [Serious, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/997756 | 16:04 |
| dbungert | test problem not yet solved | 16:04 |
| dbungert | (done) | 16:04 |
| bdmurray | ginggs: | 16:05 |
| ginggs | * rescheduled a bunch of autopkgtests that were lost over the weekend | 16:05 |
| ginggs | * still busy adding python3.10 as a supported version | 16:05 |
| ginggs | * sponsoring schopin's uploads for openssl3 transition | 16:05 |
| ginggs | * helped r-bioc-* migrate | 16:05 |
| ginggs | (done) | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | sil2100: | 16:05 |
| sil2100 | I'd like to go last o/ | 16:06 |
| sil2100 | Skip plz | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | waveform: then its you | 16:06 |
| waveform | * Permissions requests for pi-bluetooth on core18 (LP: #1949869) | 16:06 |
| waveform | * Working on flash-kernel changes for Pi boot procedure | 16:06 |
| waveform | * Working on missing system-boot from etc/fstab on jammy server images (still!) (LP: #1950677) | 16:06 |
| waveform | * Adding needrestart override for pi-bluetooth (LP: #1953046) | 16:06 |
| waveform | * Worked on linux-firmware-raspi2 rename (to linux-firmware-raspi); pi-bluetooth changes done, seed changes prepped, but livecd-rootfs changes needed as well | 16:06 |
| waveform | * Pi meetings | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1952048 in Kernel SRU Workflow snap-release-to-stable "bionic/linux-raspi2: 4.15.0-1099.106 snap-debs snap:pi-kernel" [Medium, Fix Released] [duplicate: 1949869] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1952048 | 16:06 |
| waveform | (done) | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1950677 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Pi images for jammy exclude boot partition mount" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1950677 | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1953046 in pi-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "needrestart should ignore hciuart.service" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1953046 | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | doko: | 16:06 |
| doko | - company online courses finished | 16:07 |
| doko | - some reading about the long-double format change on ppc64el | 16:07 |
| doko | - first version of the gcc-12 cross compiler | 16:07 |
| doko | (done) | 16:07 |
| slyon | - released systemd 249.5-2ubuntu1 | 16:07 |
| slyon | + pulled in some last minute OEM patches that need SRU | 16:07 |
| slyon | - preparing systemd SRUs LP: #1952599, LP: #1943561, LP: #1952733, LP: #1952735 | 16:07 |
| slyon | + Jammy + Impish/Hirsute/Focal/Bionic ... ugh | 16:07 |
| slyon | - landed https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10212 \o/ (long overdue) | 16:07 |
| slyon | + updated NetworkManager patch & dropped vendorized netplan from the snap: | 16:07 |
| slyon | https://code.launchpad.net/~slyon/snappy-hwe-snaps/+git/network-manager/+merge/412634 | 16:07 |
| slyon | - review & sponsored pastebinit (using git-ubuntu rich history) | 16:07 |
| slyon | - started investigating the dbus/systemd crash again, LP: #1871538 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1952599 in systemd (Ubuntu Jammy) "virt: Support detection for ARM64 Hyper-V guests (fixed upstream)" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1952599 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1943561 in systemd (Ubuntu Jammy) "Add ACCEL_LOCATION=base property for 6 Dell clamshell models" [Medium, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1943561 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1952733 in OEM Priority Project "Add Dell Privacy Mic Mute Key mapping for another Dell machine" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1952733 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1952735 in OEM Priority Project "Add Microphone mute key mapping for Dell machine" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1952735 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Pull 10212 in snapcore/snapd "network-setup-control: add netplan generate D-Bus rules (LP: #1926442)" [Merged] | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Impish) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871538 | 16:07 |
| slyon | === Netplan === | 16:07 |
| slyon | - KernOS discussions | 16:07 |
| slyon | - released 0.103-0ubuntu10 | 16:07 |
| slyon | - SRUs for snapd integration LP: #1946957 & LP: #1949893 | 16:07 |
| slyon | + of course there is ONE test that passes on any arch & any series | 16:07 |
| slyon | BUT focal/riscv ... I need to investigate that one. | 16:07 |
| xypron | RISC-V correction for LXC has been merged: https://github.com/lxc/lxc/commits?author=xypron | 16:07 |
| xypron | Pull requests for livecd-rootfs: LP# 1952921 LP# 1952916 | 16:07 |
| xypron | Working on Nezha disk image | 16:07 |
| xypron | <done /> | 16:07 |
| bdmurray | sil2100: are you ready? | 16:08 |
| sil2100 | * SRU reviews and releases | 16:08 |
| sil2100 | - Lots of OEM package reviews | 16:08 |
| sil2100 | * ubuntu-image: | 16:08 |
| sil2100 | - Started testing the edge version of ubuntu-image, preparing it for promotion to beta/candidate | 16:08 |
| sil2100 | - Sync up meeting | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | * Helping out with moving around files for Xilinx | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | * Intel IOT: | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | - First investigated if universe and multiverse are enabled | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | - Wrote up a documentation about how our release process for Ubuntu looks like along with some improvements for the Intel process | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | - Image builds and promotions | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | - Investigated reported issue with inability to install on UEFI when network is offline (lots of installs done on kvm) | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | - Fixed the problem caused by the funky SUBARCH in both debian-cd and ubuntu-cdimage | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | * Training | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | * Spinning and testing of new ubuntu-core 18 devices, coordination with certification | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | * Helping Olivier bring-up on his first days | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | * DMB Meeting | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | * Almost finished the WSL image tracking spec | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | * 20.04.4 discussions | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | * Lots of other stuff that I didn't time to write up yet | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | (done) | 16:09 |
| sil2100 | ogayot: o/ | 16:10 |
| ogayot | * going through the onboarding (joined Canonical on Monday) | 16:10 |
| ogayot | * initial implementation for launchpad bug #1936190 | 16:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1936190 in subiquity "subiquity asks to 'update' to version older the the one actually installed" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1936190 | 16:10 |
| ogayot | * (done) | 16:10 |
| bdmurray | welcome! | 16:10 |
| mclemenceau | welcome ogayot | 16:10 |
| sil2100 | Welcome indeed o/ | 16:10 |
| bdmurray | Any questions on status? | 16:11 |
| === genii-core is now known as genii | ||
| bdmurray | juliank: what happened with rabbitmq dying? | 16:11 |
| juliank | it ran out of memory | 16:12 |
| juliank | then it blocked publishers | 16:12 |
| bdmurray | Is juju using a lot of memory? IS mentioned something about that to me recently. | 16:12 |
| juliank | hoping things would get consumed and release resources | 16:12 |
| juliank | it's not a juju issue, the rabbitmq is limited to 40% of ram | 16:12 |
| juliank | and then it blocks publishers | 16:12 |
| bdmurray | okay | 16:13 |
| juliank | we don't know why it runs out of memory, it only had like 100 tests or so | 16:13 |
| * juliank forgot to take a status dump before restarting | 16:13 | |
| bdmurray | #topic Release Incoming Bugs | 16:13 |
| bdmurray | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:14 |
| bdmurray | bug 1943530 | 16:14 |
| ubottu | Bug 1943530 in krb5 (Ubuntu) "link libkrb5 with openssl" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1943530 | 16:14 |
| bdmurray | Given the comments we should probably take this | 16:15 |
| juliank | +1 | 16:16 |
| juliank | next step figure out licensing of reverse deps of the lib? | 16:16 |
| juliank | there might be openssl incompatible licensed rdeps | 16:16 |
| bdmurray | bug 1951399 | 16:16 |
| ubottu | Bug 1951399 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Jammy) "Ubuntu, Budgie, Kubuntu, Kylin, MATE, Xubuntu: jammy daily fails to install" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1951399 | 16:16 |
| bdmurray | This should be fixed with Robie's upload | 16:16 |
| sil2100 | \o/ | 16:16 |
| schopin | juliank: it's becoming less likely though with th eOpenSSL license change | 16:17 |
| juliank | basically GPL-2 | 16:17 |
| juliank | bdmurray: right-ish | 16:17 |
| juliank | bdmurray: needs fixing for 22.10 | 16:17 |
| juliank | in ubiquity to avoid using deprecated stuff | 16:17 |
| bdmurray | I'd rather have a new bug than this mess of metoo comments | 16:17 |
| vorlon | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2021-October/002587.html has bearing wrt license questions | 16:18 |
| bdmurray | anyway there is no action here | 16:18 |
| bdmurray | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 16:18 |
| bdmurray | bug 1944086 | 16:18 |
| ubottu | Bug 1944086 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "rsyslogd crashed with SIGABRT in IO_validate_vtable()" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1944086 | 16:18 |
| vorlon | juliank: ^^ basically, I am questioning FSF's blanket assertion that Apache license is incompatible with GPL2 | 16:19 |
| bdmurray | I found a fair number of duplicates of this the other day | 16:19 |
| juliank | yes | 16:19 |
| bdmurray | Before taking it though let's check the error tracker for the same crash | 16:20 |
| bdmurray | I'll do that and update the bug | 16:20 |
| bdmurray | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 16:20 |
| bdmurray | bug 1948884 still needs investigation before carding | 16:20 |
| ubottu | Bug 1948884 in casper (Ubuntu) "casper interactive_netmount looks for the wrong url on 20.04.3" [Low, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1948884 | 16:20 |
| sil2100 | I investigated it! | 16:21 |
| bdmurray | woot | 16:21 |
| bdmurray | so it needs fixing in jammy too then? | 16:21 |
| sil2100 | And well, I don't know if this was anything that we said would be working | 16:21 |
| juliank | vorlon: on the other end of the spectrum, I believe apache licensed code can be incompatible with gpl-3 if it contains weird stuff in NOTICE | 16:21 |
| juliank | :D | 16:21 |
| sil2100 | Yeah, so how it's written right now it will only work before any point-release is released | 16:21 |
| bdmurray | right | 16:22 |
| sil2100 | I guess we can figure out something to make it better for 22.04 for sure | 16:22 |
| sil2100 | But you know, it was broken with .1, .2 and .3 and only now someone noticed! SO I don't think it's too high priority | 16:22 |
| bdmurray | What's the actual use case here? | 16:22 |
| sil2100 | Let's card it but put somewhere lower in the backlog IMO | 16:22 |
| bdmurray | Given how long its been broken let's not bother carding it. | 16:24 |
| sil2100 | +1 | 16:25 |
| bdmurray | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 16:25 |
| bdmurray | #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 16:25 |
| bdmurray | vorlon: | 16:25 |
| vorlon | python-crypto: previously discussed, no action here, the package should eventually go away | 16:26 |
| vorlon | dbus-python: just blocked by pyqt5 now, we can ignore this for the time being | 16:26 |
| vorlon | libcgi-pm-perl: xypron: are you still working on this? | 16:26 |
| slyon | i resolved python-dbus down to numpy last week. seems to be stuck on pyopencl FTBFS now | 16:26 |
| slyon | s/python-dbus/dbus-python | 16:26 |
| xypron | vorlon: not actively this week | 16:26 |
| vorlon | xypron: ok; are you going to have time in the next week? | 16:27 |
| xypron | No I am in SF for the RISC-V conference | 16:27 |
| vorlon | for (relatively) new folks, note the expectation is that when taking one of these packages, it should be resolved by the next weekly meeting | 16:27 |
| vorlon | xypron: aha! | 16:27 |
| vorlon | can someone else look at libcgi-pm-perl this week? | 16:27 |
| ginggs | i can | 16:27 |
| vorlon | ginggs: thanks | 16:28 |
| ginggs | it may just need retries, we resolved a dependency cycle last week | 16:28 |
| vorlon | libidn: I looked at it on +1 maintenance, but that shift is over so needs a new point person | 16:28 |
| vorlon | waveform: could you? | 16:29 |
| schopin | this is blocked by ghostscript | 16:29 |
| waveform | vorlon, ack | 16:29 |
| vorlon | thanks | 16:29 |
| schopin | ginggs: didn't you mention a patch on -devel for it a few days ago? | 16:29 |
| vorlon | libregexp-pattern-license-perl: juliank: is this still you? | 16:29 |
| ginggs | schopin: ghostscript? | 16:29 |
| schopin | yes | 16:29 |
| juliank | vorlon: I think so, I think we are down to an infra hickup and MIR for licensecheck dep | 16:29 |
| vorlon | juliank: ok | 16:29 |
| vorlon | python-click is still mwhudson who's not here to refuse | 16:30 |
| ginggs | schopin: yes, i filed LP: #1953018 earlier, so that info didn't get lost | 16:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1953018 in ghostscript (Ubuntu) "ghostscript breaks asymptote autopkgtest: build fails: GPL Ghostscript 9.55.0: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1953018 | 16:30 |
| vorlon | dbungert: are you still on node-jquery? | 16:30 |
| juliank | ugh licensecheck/amd64 in main cannot depend on libio-interactive-perl in universe | 16:30 |
| dbungert | vorlon: yes, one more regression left on node-jquery | 16:30 |
| vorlon | schopin: gobject-introspection, is this still with you? | 16:31 |
| slyon | juliank: there is a pending MIR for that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libio-interactive-perl/+bug/1951067 | 16:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1951067 in libio-interactive-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libio-interactive-perl" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 16:31 |
| schopin | hmm, I marked it as done on my todolist... sorry, I'll have another look then. | 16:31 |
| juliank | schopin: hmm you did not fill it out :D | 16:32 |
| vorlon | schopin: ok. hasn't migrated, waiting on related packages - may need deeper poking | 16:32 |
| vorlon | doko: can you take liburi-perl? | 16:32 |
| slyon | juliank: indeed :) It needs to be filled by somebody | 16:32 |
| doko | ok, and looking at the python-crypto removal | 16:32 |
| juliank | sorry for the tab completion typo above | 16:32 |
| vorlon | doko: python-crypto removal consists of a lot of pestering of the openstack team :) | 16:33 |
| vorlon | so you can probably parallelize | 16:33 |
| doko | I'm good with pestering ;p | 16:33 |
| sil2100 | ;) | 16:33 |
| vorlon | pam, this one has been looked at before, weird behavior regarding proxy env vars; I'll take it | 16:33 |
| vorlon | libwww-perl: ogayot: could you take this one? | 16:34 |
| ogayot | sure | 16:34 |
| vorlon | iso-codes: bdmurray? | 16:34 |
| bdmurray | okay | 16:35 |
| vorlon | gpgme1.0: sil2100? | 16:35 |
| ginggs | i've down for a gpgme1.0 merge | 16:35 |
| vorlon | oh actually I guess that's about python3-defaults not about gpgme1.0 anyway | 16:35 |
| ginggs | yeah | 16:35 |
| vorlon | ginggs: are you on top of python3-defaults then? | 16:35 |
| sil2100 | ...win | 16:35 |
| ginggs | vorlon: i'm still hacking at it, if that's what you mean | 16:36 |
| vorlon | ok | 16:37 |
| bdmurray | he might be underneath it then | 16:37 |
| jawn-smith | I will also be in San Fran next week but I can take one to work over the next couple of days | 16:37 |
| vorlon | who doesn't have anything yet? | 16:37 |
| jawn-smith | o/ | 16:38 |
| slyon | o/ | 16:38 |
| vorlon | jawn-smith: libcommon-sense-perl, then? | 16:38 |
| vorlon | slyon: cmake? | 16:38 |
| slyon | vorlon: ok | 16:38 |
| jawn-smith | vorlon: ack | 16:38 |
| sil2100 | Yesss, jawn-smith can now use his new powers, mu ha ha | 16:38 |
| vorlon | and then let's stop there | 16:38 |
| vorlon | openssl is also high priority, I'm poking at getting it unblocked this week | 16:38 |
| vorlon | fyi | 16:38 |
| slyon | I'll be working on systemd a bit once the first tests are finished | 16:39 |
| vorlon | (terminal open right now patching burp, thanks to guidance from schopin) | 16:39 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: | 16:39 |
| sil2100 | vorlon: thanks! | 16:39 |
| bdmurray | #topic AOB | 16:39 |
| bdmurray | anything else? | 16:40 |
| jawn-smith | As previously mentioned, xypron and I will be out of office next week for the RISC-V summit | 16:40 |
| jawn-smith | I will return to work Friday | 16:40 |
| bdmurray | Be safe! | 16:41 |
| jawn-smith | just got boosted :) | 16:41 |
| bdmurray | okay, thanks everboyd | 16:43 |
| bdmurray | yes, big thanks to boyd | 16:43 |
| bdmurray | #endmeeting | 16:43 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 16:43:59 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-12-02-16.00.moin.txt | 16:43 |
| schopin | o/ | 16:44 |
| slyon | o/ | 16:44 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 16:45 |
| madhens | o/ | 19:55 |
| madhens | Hello @Wild_Man! | 19:55 |
| Wild_Man | Hello madhens | 19:56 |
| Wild_Man | Hello diddledani Bashing-om | 19:56 |
| Wild_Man | Who all is here from the board | 19:57 |
| Bashing-om | Wild_Man: Here - bright eyed and bushy tailed :D How are you ? | 19:57 |
| Wild_Man | Bashing-om, I am good, just got home been at the cancer center with my wife all day | 19:58 |
| madhens | *offers a hugs and a cup of tea* | 19:58 |
| Wild_Man | Thanks madhens, I love tea | 19:58 |
| Bashing-om | Wild_Man: Sad state of affairs that ^ - good however that you make the meeting. | 19:59 |
| basenji | o/ | 19:59 |
| Wild_Man | hi basenji | 19:59 |
| basenji | hello | 20:00 |
| diddledani | 👋🏻 | 20:00 |
| Wild_Man | Good to see you apply basenji | 20:00 |
| Wild_Man | Hello nicoz- | 20:00 |
| basenji | Thank You ! | 20:00 |
| Wild_Man | I am wildmanne39 on the forum | 20:01 |
| Wild_Man | You're welcome | 20:01 |
| Wild_Man | Hello Kilos, you awake? | 20:02 |
| Kilos | yessir | 20:02 |
| Kilos | sorry | 20:02 |
| Wild_Man | Good to see you | 20:02 |
| madhens | Okay, coffee for Kilos :) | 20:02 |
| Kilos | been trying to catch up with everything. | 20:03 |
| Kilos | ty madhens | 20:03 |
| Wild_Man | I guess we will wait a few minutes and see if nicoz makes it | 20:03 |
| Kilos | genii is the coffee man | 20:03 |
| diddledani | we can get going with basenji in the meantime | 20:03 |
| * genii slides Kilos a topped up mug of strong black coffee just the right temperature for sipping | 20:03 | |
| Kilos | ty ty ty | 20:03 |
| genii | :D | 20:03 |
| Wild_Man | diddledani, do you want to do the honors or should I? | 20:04 |
| diddledani | I'm easy either way :-) | 20:04 |
| Wild_Man | #startmeeting 20:00 UTC Membership Board Meeting | 20:04 |
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| Wild_Man | #startmeeting 20:00 UTC Membership Board Meeting | 20:05 |
| Wild_Man | Hello and welcome to the Membership Board meeting! | 20:05 |
| Wild_Man | The wiki page for the Review Board is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards. We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. | 20:05 |
| Wild_Man | If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). | 20:05 |
| Wild_Man | Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. | 20:05 |
| Wild_Man | During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. | 20:05 |
| basenji | ready? | 20:07 |
| Wild_Man | basenji, please introduce yourself | 20:07 |
| basenji | I am Bernard Stafford | 20:08 |
| Wild_Man | Provide links to your wiki and launchpad pages please | 20:08 |
| basenji | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bernard%20Stafford https://launchpad.net/~bernard010 | 20:08 |
| Kilos | basenji thats a short intro | 20:08 |
| basenji | I am excited to have an opportunity to become a Ubuntu Member. To belong to a great community. | 20:10 |
| nicoz- | hellp | 20:10 |
| diddledani | nicoz-: is that a cry for support? :-p | 20:10 |
| nicoz- | sorry for the delay | 20:10 |
| Wild_Man | basenji, impressive karma | 20:10 |
| nicoz- | hello* | 20:11 |
| diddledani | the karma on your profile, basenji is off the charts great | 20:11 |
| cjwatson | basenji asked me for a testimonial; I'm afraid I didn't have time to write one, but I can at least say that they've been a diligent and helpful reporter of spam in various support systems on Launchpad for some time | 20:11 |
| basenji | Thank You | 20:11 |
| diddledani | thanks, cjwatson | 20:11 |
| madhens | Thank you, cjwatson! | 20:11 |
| nicoz- | I was 10min late sorry | 20:12 |
| Kilos | ty cjwatson | 20:12 |
| diddledani | basenji: first question, more a formality, while you've signed the Code of Conduct we need to get you to confirm that you understood it when you signed it, and are agreeing that you'll be bound to the terms within for the duration of your contributions | 20:12 |
| Kilos | np nicoz- | 20:12 |
| Wild_Man | Thank you cjwatson | 20:12 |
| basenji | YES | 20:12 |
| Wild_Man | Hi nicoz- | 20:13 |
| Bashing-om | nicoz-: We get to your application after that of basenji :D | 20:13 |
| basenji | I fully understand the code of conduct. | 20:14 |
| diddledani | awesome :-) | 20:14 |
| diddledani | next question from me, where do you see your contributions going over the next 6 months to a year? will you be doing more of the same activity, or do you plan to get more involved over time? | 20:15 |
| Bashing-om | gasAnd in addition - for the record - you affirm to abide by the Code of Conduct for as long as you are a member? | 20:15 |
| Kilos | maybe i missed something basenji where are you? | 20:15 |
| diddledani | Bashing-om: I asked that already ;-p | 20:15 |
| Wild_Man | Do you plan to get involved with any other aspects of support in the Ubuntu community basenji ? | 20:15 |
| basenji | More of the same active contributions. | 20:16 |
| Bashing-om | diddledani: :P Tunnel vision. | 20:16 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:16 |
| Kilos | Bashing-om where are you? | 20:16 |
| basenji | Yes I will adbie to the code of conduct | 20:16 |
| Bashing-om | Kilos: USA - Arkansas be my physical location. | 20:17 |
| Kilos | no man | 20:17 |
| Kilos | basenji where are you? | 20:17 |
| Kilos | sorry Bashing-om | 20:17 |
| diddledani | *tab* *tab* *fail* | 20:17 |
| basenji | USA | 20:17 |
| Wild_Man | Does anyone have any further questions for basenji | 20:18 |
| Kilos | haqve you been there long? | 20:18 |
| basenji | Nebraska | 20:18 |
| diddledani | basenji: do you plan to get in touch with other translators to become more integrated with the community to work as a team? | 20:19 |
| basenji | short time/ | 20:19 |
| Kilos | basenji hoe gaan jy die taal praat daar? | 20:19 |
| basenji | I present do speak the language here | 20:20 |
| Kilos | wow | 20:20 |
| Wild_Man | Are we ready to vote? | 20:21 |
| Kilos | ok Wild_Man | 20:21 |
| Bashing-om | Wild_Man: yes | 20:21 |
| diddledani | just waiting on basenji's answer to my last question | 20:21 |
| basenji | I have tried to get in touch with other Afrikaans translators. no luck | 20:22 |
| Wild_Man | basenji, it is probably up to you to start your own team of translators in that case, it is hard to find volunteers sometimes | 20:23 |
| basenji | Yes if possible. | 20:23 |
| Wild_Man | #voters Wild_Man diddledan Kilos Bashing-om | 20:24 |
| meetingology | Warning: 'diddledan' not in channel | 20:24 |
| meetingology | Current voters: Bashing-om, Kilos, Wild_Man, diddledan | 20:24 |
| Kilos | +1 | 20:24 |
| basenji | I am an admin on launchpad translators: Afrikaans https://launchpad.net/~lp-l10n-af | 20:25 |
| diddledani | missed my i | 20:25 |
| Wild_Man | #voters Wild_Man diddledani Kilos Bashing-om | 20:25 |
| meetingology | Current voters: Bashing-om, Kilos, Wild_Man, diddledan, diddledani | 20:25 |
| diddledani | :-p | 20:25 |
| Wild_Man | +1 | 20:25 |
| Kilos | grrrrr | 20:25 |
| Kilos | +1 | 20:25 |
| Bashing-om | +1 | 20:25 |
| Kilos | the bot is sick | 20:25 |
| Wild_Man | #vote basenji membership | 20:25 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: basenji membership | 20:25 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname') | 20:25 |
| Wild_Man | +1 | 20:25 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Wild_Man | 20:25 |
| Kilos | +1 | 20:25 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Kilos | 20:25 |
| Bashing-om | +1 | 20:26 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Bashing-om | 20:26 |
| diddledani | +1 You've got a good karma on Launchpad and two good testimonials. I'd like to encourage you to try to get better integrated with the wider community so you're able to lean on people for support when you have problems | 20:26 |
| meetingology | +1 You've got a good karma on Launchpad and two good testimonials. I'd like to encourage you to try to get better integrated with the wider community so you're able to lean on people for support when you have problems received from diddledani | 20:26 |
| Wild_Man | #endvote | 20:26 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: basenji membership | 20:26 |
| meetingology | Votes for: 4, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0 | 20:26 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 20:26 |
| Wild_Man | Congratulations basenji | 20:27 |
| Bashing-om | congrats basenji ! | 20:27 |
| madhens | Congrats! | 20:27 |
| nicoz- | ;) | 20:27 |
| Kilos | basenji congrats, welcome aboard. hope to see you here and maybe in #ubuntu-za | 20:27 |
| basenji | AWESOME ! | 20:27 |
| Wild_Man | #topic nicoz- | 20:29 |
| nicoz- | Hi everyone, my name is nico, I'm from Salerno(IT).. I have adhered to the code of conduct, I contribute to try the daily current of ubuntu and deriving, tracking bug and more... I daily help on Italian support channels and forums | 20:29 |
| nicoz- | my launchpad page https://launchpad.net/~nicoz91 | 20:29 |
| nicoz- | I have already created a wiki page | 20:29 |
| nicoz- | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nicoz91 | 20:30 |
| Wild_Man | You've signed the code of conduct. Did you understand everything it said and do you agree to abide by the spirit of the code of conduct? | 20:31 |
| nicoz- | yes | 20:31 |
| diddledani | we have one testimonial from nhaines on the Discourse https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/nicoz-membership-application/25381 | 20:32 |
| Bashing-om | nicoz-: You are most active in translations - what language are you working - and for how long ? | 20:32 |
| nicoz- | English - Italian | 20:33 |
| nicoz- | for at least one hour a day I dedicated myself | 20:33 |
| nicoz- | now I'm testing the various daily for you | 20:33 |
| Wild_Man | nicoz-, you mention that you are active on the forum is that the Ubuntu Forums? can we have a link to your profile on the forums that you are active on please? | 20:33 |
| nicoz- | https://bugs.launchpad.net/~nicoz91 | 20:33 |
| nicoz- | just moment | 20:35 |
| nicoz- | https://forum.ubuntu-it.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=82309 | 20:35 |
| nicoz- | registered since 2009 | 20:36 |
| diddledani | I see your latest 10 translations are for fcitx in various releases of Ubuntu. Are you aware of the supported lifecycle of each release, and are you concentrating on currently-supported releases? I ask because I see several contributions against not-currently-supported releases | 20:36 |
| nicoz- | those that I find with less translations, regardless of the package, if it is important I can work on specific packages too | 20:37 |
| nicoz- | i have contribute https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+source/gnome-software | 20:38 |
| nicoz- | gnome-software is more important | 20:39 |
| nicoz- | very* | 20:40 |
| diddledani | are you currently a member of your local "loco"? | 20:41 |
| nicoz- | I have never requested it | 20:42 |
| nicoz- | now Italian volunteers on launchpad are ghosts :P lol | 20:43 |
| Kilos | nicoz- join your local loco, always good to have friends to help close by | 20:43 |
| Kilos | wake up the ghosts | 20:43 |
| diddledani | what are your plans for the next 6 months to a year for contribution? are you going to continue your current contributions or do you intend to contribute more widely? | 20:43 |
| nicoz- | yes i will continue to contribute .. i have an open source debt since 2007 | 20:44 |
| nicoz- | ever since i started using ubuntu i always wanted to repay what i got from you | 20:45 |
| nicoz- | i want to keep testing new versions, help #ubuntu-it users | 20:45 |
| Kilos | nicoz- can you make spaghetti bolougnaise | 20:46 |
| diddledani | do we get sgetti? | 20:46 |
| Wild_Man | HAHAHA really? | 20:47 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:47 |
| Bashing-om | nicoz-: In your testing of new versions - as you encounter issues - do you make reports of the issues ? | 20:47 |
| nicoz- | also .. if you want to put the water to boil | 20:47 |
| nicoz- | ;O | 20:47 |
| nicoz- | :P | 20:47 |
| nicoz- | always basghin-om, I have the system in full reporting level | 20:48 |
| madhens | Okay, we really need to get arighi to apply for membership if pasta-making skill is now a qualification | 20:48 |
| nicoz- | I'm testing them on virtual machine, and on an hp g8 | 20:48 |
| Kilos | madhens its the sauce that counts | 20:49 |
| nicoz- | I'm also good as a cook madhens | 20:49 |
| nicoz- | ;) | 20:49 |
| diddledani | nicoz-: could you paste a link to a bug report you've filed, please? | 20:49 |
| Wild_Man | That makes a difference a little more difficult to report bugs that are not done on a bare metal system | 20:49 |
| nicoz- | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/terminator/+bug/1952504 | 20:49 |
| Wild_Man | I received page not found | 20:50 |
| nicoz- | I collaborated for a bot in python for debian-it | 20:50 |
| diddledani | same | 20:50 |
| nicoz- | https://gitlab.com/linux-lab1/deb-bot | 20:51 |
| nicoz- | I am currently also a delegate op of #debian-it on libera | 20:51 |
| Wild_Man | nicoz-, please understand that debian is not Ubuntu so what you do there I do not believe counts towards membership for Ubuntu | 20:53 |
| nicoz- | ah ok scuse me.. | 20:53 |
| Wild_Man | No problem at all it's all important work and I commend you for it | 20:54 |
| nicoz- | ;) | 20:54 |
| nicoz- | I try to reciprocate to the open source world | 20:55 |
| Wild_Man | You say you are active on the forum do you know how long it has been since your last post there? | 20:56 |
| nicoz- | i prefer to give support on irc | 20:57 |
| nicoz- | have a direct approach with the user in order to lead him to the solution, wherever possible | 20:57 |
| Wild_Man | I understand, we all have out preference to where we give support | 20:58 |
| Wild_Man | out/our | 20:58 |
| diddledani | are there any members of the #ubuntu-it channel that can provide supporting testimonials? | 20:58 |
| nicoz- | I try to always be polite and friendly with users | 20:59 |
| nicoz- | you can ask mapreri who sees me very often active on the channel | 20:59 |
| nicoz- | obviously we don't know each other | 20:59 |
| Kilos | nicoz- try and make friends with the guys on the channels you work on | 21:00 |
| Kilos | alsways handy to get support from known members | 21:01 |
| nicoz- | of course I have friends in the community | 21:01 |
| nicoz- | however many are not ubuntu members | 21:01 |
| mapreri | uh hi | 21:02 |
| mapreri | what's up? | 21:02 |
| Kilos | hi mapreri we are looking for support for nicoz- | 21:02 |
| nicoz- | i was applying for mapreri membership | 21:02 |
| mapreri | for what? | 21:02 |
| mapreri | ah | 21:02 |
| Wild_Man | Ubuntu Membership | 21:02 |
| nicoz- | i was applying for membership | 21:02 |
| mapreri | did the process change? back in my time one would collect endorsments in the wiki page long before the meetings :D | 21:03 |
| Wild_Man | It is still that way but he has none | 21:03 |
| nicoz- | they are already in the wiki | 21:03 |
| nicoz- | if it's a problem, it doesn't matter | 21:04 |
| mapreri | Yes, I've seen nicoz- around IRC channels for quite a long time (can't remember how long, so it's likely very long) also giving support to people. but uh, besides that I'm afraid I don't have an impression of nicoz- :( | 21:04 |
| mapreri | nicoz-: they are not in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nicoz91 - where should we look for them? | 21:04 |
| * mapreri lives in a bubble, so unless one works on the same things as me it's not easy for me to notice :( | 21:05 | |
| nicoz- | indeed mapreri is not very active | 21:05 |
| nicoz- | :P | 21:05 |
| mapreri | nowadays I do most of my things in debian eheh :) | 21:06 |
| nicoz- | ;P ctte | 21:06 |
| Wild_Man | Thank you mapreri | 21:07 |
| Wild_Man | #voters Wild_Man diddledan Kilos Bashing-om | 21:07 |
| meetingology | Current voters: Bashing-om, Kilos, Wild_Man, diddledan, diddledani | 21:07 |
| diddledani | you got my name wrong again ;-p | 21:08 |
| Wild_Man | #voters Wild_Man diddledani Kilos Bashing-om | 21:08 |
| meetingology | Current voters: Bashing-om, Kilos, Wild_Man, diddledan, diddledani | 21:08 |
| Kilos | +1 | 21:08 |
| Kilos | grrrrr | 21:08 |
| Wild_Man | +1 | 21:08 |
| Wild_Man | #vote nicoz- membership | 21:08 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: nicoz- membership | 21:08 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname') | 21:08 |
| Wild_Man | +1 | 21:08 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Wild_Man | 21:08 |
| Kilos | +1 | 21:08 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Kilos | 21:09 |
| diddledani | -1. I'd like to see more evidence and testimonial data. Please check my wiki page for an example of what I provided when I applied: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/diddledani | 21:09 |
| meetingology | -1. I'd like to see more evidence and testimonial data. Please check my wiki page for an example of what I provided when I applied: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/diddledani received from diddledani | 21:09 |
| Bashing-om | +1 | 21:09 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Bashing-om | 21:09 |
| Wild_Man | #endvote | 21:10 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: nicoz- membership | 21:10 |
| meetingology | Votes for: 3, Votes against: 1, Abstentions: 0 | 21:10 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 21:10 |
| mapreri | (I also have a bunch of examples fwiw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MattiaRizzolo/#Testimonials_for_Ubuntu_membership ) | 21:10 |
| Wild_Man | Congratulations nicoz- | 21:10 |
| mapreri | \o/ | 21:10 |
| nicoz- | ;) | 21:10 |
| Wild_Man | #endmeeting | 21:11 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 21:11:18 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-12-02-20.04.moin.txt | 21:11 |
| * diddledani goes to correct pronouns and Dan-vs-Dani on my wiki | 21:11 | |
| Kilos | nicoz- congratulations, welcome about. hope to see you online more often | 21:11 |
| Kilos | Wild_Man thank you for chairing | 21:12 |
| nicoz- | my pleasure ;) | 21:12 |
| basenji | I would like to thank everyone for all of your hard work and dedication for Ubuntu and Launchpad. | 21:12 |
| Bashing-om | nicoz-: Please be aware - it is nhaines' endorsement that changes my mind - I do expect significant contributions to the Ubuntu eco-system in the future from you. | 21:12 |
| madhens | Congrats to both of you! Please, if there's anything the community team can help with (reaching out to other translators, local groups, etc.) please let us know. | 21:13 |
| Wild_Man | basenji, and nicoz- you will be added to the team shortly, it will take up to 48 hours for you to get your email setup for Ubuntu | 21:13 |
| basenji | OK Thanks | 21:13 |
| Wild_Man | I have to run | 21:13 |
| Kilos | wilgo well | 21:13 |
| Kilos | grrrr | 21:13 |
| nicoz- | ;) | 21:13 |
| madhens | I need to run too but thanks again, all! | 21:14 |
| Kilos | ty madhens | 21:14 |
| basenji | A special thank you to @cjwatson | 21:14 |
| diddledani | Both of you are added to the group on Launchpad. Congratulations | 21:14 |
| Kilos | ty diddledani | 21:14 |
| diddledani | don't forget to check the perks (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership#The_Perks) and request your certificates (https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/) | 21:15 |
| diddledani | your @ubuntu.com email addresses will go live within 48 hours, please don't set them as your primary launchpad email address because that will cause them to loop | 21:16 |
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