[06:34] <xu-irc73w> Hello, I have a question that somewhere here might be able to address:
[06:34] <xu-irc73w> I downloaded the latest version of the GTK2/3 theme greybird and extracted it to /usr/share/themes, but it does not show up in the appearance settings of XFCE. I’ve tried extracting to /.themes as well with no success. 
[06:34] <xu-irc73w> https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird
[06:34] <xu-irc73w> I’m attempting to install version 3.22.15, but all versions after 3.22.11 have this issue where they don’t appear in the settings menu after extracting to proper the directory. I have all dependencies installed, so it should work. Not sure if it’s a bug with the theme or just me.
[06:36] <KBar> xu-irc73w, version of Xubuntu?
[06:37] <xu-irc73w> It seems that this incompatibility started after version 3.22.11 when the devs made a larger change to the code, release notes state "Rebase partly on Adwaita 3.24 to get features and reduce diff"
[06:37] <xu-irc73w> KBar: I am actually using Debian 11 with XFCE 4.16 to be honest. 
[06:37] <KBar> This is a Xubuntu support channel. Please consider joining #xfce or forum.xfce.org
[06:38] <xu-irc73w> Okay, thanks. I will ask there.
[08:19] <Super_Ape> hello, good morning
[08:22] <KBar> Good morning to you too! 
[08:22] <KBar> Super_Ape, and welcome. How can we help you?
[08:24] <Super_Ape> KBar, Hi, I has a little problem. How do I get Thunderbird to launch at startup? The App "Startup Aplications" from Xubuntu doesn't work
[08:25] <KBar> Super_Ape, what version of Xubuntu are you running?
[08:25] <Super_Ape> KBar, https://imgur.com/Vbd7LUv.png
[08:26] <Super_Ape> let me see
[08:26] <KBar> Super_Ape, this is the command: `lsb_release -rd`
[08:26] <KBar> To show the current version.
[08:27] <Super_Ape> dUbuntu 20.04.3 LTS
[08:27] <Super_Ape> Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS
[08:27] <KBar> Stay here. Let me test it. Will reboot and come back.
[08:28] <Super_Ape> KBar, Thank you
[08:32] <KBar> Super_Ape, I don't have Thunderbird but Firefox works here. What version is installed? `dpkg -l thunderbird`
[08:32] <KBar> Actually, just share the whole output.
[08:33] <KBar> Super_Ape, `dpkg -l thunderbird | pastebinit -b pastebin.com
[08:33] <Super_Ape> KBar, thunderbird    1:91.3.2+build1-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 amd64 
[08:34] <KBar> Super_Ape, does it have two i's in the beginning (first column before the name)?
[08:35] <Super_Ape> KBar, yes, what does it mean?
[08:36] <KBar> It means it's status is set to install, and the package itself is installed. Can you start it fine?
[08:36] <KBar> it's > its
[08:37] <KBar> Super_Ape, how did you install it? This version is not available in Focal (20.04). Could you please show me the output of `apt-cache policy thunderbird`?
[08:37] <Super_Ape> yes, really runs well. I don't know what happened with that... 
[08:37] <Super_Ape> okay
[08:38] <KBar> Super_Ape, just to make sure. You have set up your account, right?
[08:38] <Super_Ape> KBar, https://imgur.com/3Yw6A00.png
[08:38] <Super_Ape> KBar, yes
[08:42] <KBar> Super_Ape, okay. It looks like you've installed it from Mozilla's PPA. Anyway, it should not interfere with its autostart.
[08:43] <KBar> Super_Ape, can you try without the `%u` argument?
[08:43] <Super_Ape> KBar, sure, let me try
[08:43] <Super_Ape> KBar, be right back
[08:50] <Super_Ape> KBar, It works... the %u was the problem. i dont put this %u there.. was there be default 
[08:50] <Super_Ape> but now... When it starts show a msg failed to connect to imap server
[08:50] <Super_Ape> but it connects 
[08:50] <Super_Ape> kkk
[08:50] <KBar> Ah, I see. `%u` means open URL
[08:50] <KBar> Super_Ape, does it work now?
[08:50] <Super_Ape> KBar, YES
[08:51] <KBar> Super_Ape, that error is probably because now Thunderbird is opened before your Internet connection is up.
[08:52] <Super_Ape> KBar, Yes. i think it
[08:53] <KBar> Super_Ape, if this message bothers you and you'd rather not see it, you can add some delay to its autostart.
[08:53] <Super_Ape> KBar, I am trying to do it
[08:54] <KBar> Super_Ape, oh. I see. You can do this: `sleep 5s && thunderbird`, but maybe there is a better way to do it.
[08:54] <Super_Ape> KBar, where i put this line?
[08:55] <KBar> Super_Ape, just where you modified it. The "Command" field.
[08:56] <Super_Ape> KBar, is it possible to start thunderbird minimized ?
[08:56] <KBar> Yes, it is.
[08:56] <KBar> Super_Ape, you can add some commands, but check the Thunderbird settings first.
[08:56] <KBar> It should have an option for that.
[08:56] <Super_Ape> KBar, Okay, let me try the sleep 5s first kkk
[08:57] <Super_Ape> be right back
[08:57] <KBar> Look for start minimized or similar option.
[08:57] <KBar> Okay. I'm going to eat. :)
[09:09] <Super_Ape> KBar, sleep 5s && thunderbird doesn't work, sleep 5 && thunderbird neither 
[09:10] <Super_Ape> KBar, Thunderbird doesn't have delay to startup... they just has option to delay to checkup msgs.. exemplo. chekc new msgs on 5 min in 5 min
[09:43] <KBar> I see.
[09:43] <Super_Ape> KBar, I solve the parte of msg server
[09:43] <Super_Ape> kkk
[09:44] <KBar> Super_Ape, the one that appeared at startup saying "Unable to connect to IMAP server"?
[09:45] <Super_Ape> KBar, not more... i follow the second step https://www.linuxuprising.com/2020/11/how-to-launch-startup-applications-with.html
[09:45] <Super_Ape> now... i am trying to do it minimized 
[09:45] <Super_Ape> when open, open minimized
[09:46] <KBar> Super_Ape, wait, did you also add `X-GNOME-Autostart`?
[09:46] <Super_Ape> no
[09:46] <KBar> Only with sleep?
[09:46] <Super_Ape> yes
[09:47] <Super_Ape> on autostart directory
[09:47] <Super_Ape> works very well
[09:47] <KBar> Well, it should also work through GUI as well.
[09:47] <KBar> They change the same thing.
[09:48] <Super_Ape> do you know some command line to minimize this?
[09:48] <KBar> You can do it with `wmctrl`, but you have to install it first. Let me find something else.
[09:49] <Super_Ape> sleep 5 && thunderbird && -startintray ?
[09:49] <KBar> Is that a Thunderbird option?
[09:50] <Super_Ape> KBar, thunderbird doesnt have this opition
[09:51] <Super_Ape> i try to find some addon, but i didnt 
[09:51] <KBar> Super_Ape, where did you find this: `-startintray`?
[09:51] <xu-help17w> Good day
[09:51] <KBar> Hi.
[09:52] <Super_Ape> KBar, https://askubuntu.com/questions/882748/how-do-i-start-telegram-from-the-command-line
[09:52] <xu-help17w> I install Xubuntu 32bits but Wi-Fi nota work 
[09:52] <xu-help17w> Not work
[09:53] <xu-help17w> Ifconfig show me cabe ethernet
[09:54] <Super_Ape> xu-help17w, iwconfig
[09:54] <Super_Ape> on terminal
[09:54] <KBar> Super_Ape, well, you cannot put option for one program as an option of another. I'd suggest you to read this, if you're interested: https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxcommand/files/TLCL/19.01/TLCL-19.01.pdf/download
[09:54] <KBar> xu-help17w, Xubuntu version?
[09:55] <KBar> Ubuntu doesn't support 32-bit anymore.
[09:55] <KBar> Super_Ape, install `wmctrl`
[09:56] <xu-help17w> xubuntu 18.04 32 bits
[09:57] <KBar> xu-help17w, it's EoL, meaning End of Life.
[09:57] <KBar> xu-help17w, https://xubuntu.org/release/18-04/
[09:57] <KBar> xu-help17w, if your CPU is capable, consider upgrading to 20.04
[09:57] <Super_Ape> KBar, done
[09:58] <KBar> Super_Ape, relaunch Thunderbird (quit the program and launch it again)
[09:58] <xu-help17w> My Notebook os 32bits
[09:59] <KBar> xu-help17w, well, that's unfortunate. As I said, 18.04 is not supported anymore. The current long-term release is 20.04, supported until 23.04
[10:00] <xu-help17w> Ok thanks
[11:35] <xu-irc67w> hello, how  do i upgrade kernel to 5.13 on xubuntu 20.04
[11:39] <xu-irc67w> !kernel
[12:05] <tomreyn> xp'd to #ubuntu
[14:58] <kjani> Hello !! Just installed after using Debian XFCE for a month but I got frustrated from the lack of much recent packages
[14:58] <kjani> Found refuge in Xubuntu !
[15:00] <GridCloud> :)
[15:19] <KBar> kjani, hello and welcome. Just beward that Ubuntu is based on Debian and follows a similar release cycle.
[15:19] <KBar> *beware
[15:57] <krytarik> Only if one regards 6 months and 2 years as similar though.. XD
[16:35] <kjani> krytarik: Yeah the difference in the time period of the release cycle was what brought me here
[17:41] <t4gee> d
[18:52] <tree111> if i'm on version 20.10, is there a proper and safe way to downgrade to 20.04 lts? or is it better to just upgrade what i have and wait for 21.04?
[18:56] <genii> There is no downgrade facility, unfortunately. A reinstall would be required. You're better off to wait for the point release of 21.04
[18:57] <tree111> ah thanks. so if i just upgrade normally until 21.04, that version would be lts right? i dont need to install other 21.04 lts version?
[18:58] <genii> Neither would be LTS versions
[18:58] <genii> The next one will the 2022 April one, 22.04
[18:59] <tree111> ah my mistake
[18:59] <genii> LTS are every two years in April, so 20.04 currently, then 22.04
[19:01] <tree111> so if i upgrade to 22.04 later, that 22.04 is LTS without me having to do anything else?
[19:03] <genii> Yes
[19:03] <tree111> nice, thanks for the help
[19:04] <genii> However after upgrading to that, you may need to change the upgrade check from normal to LTS
[19:05] <tree111> ah. i will take note of that. i think i messed up that option previously
[19:06] <genii> The setting is in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  , you can change Prompt=normal in there to Prompt=lts