davef | k, so i've been giving MS Edge (chrome version) a solid poke. I hate to say it, but I'm liking it. | 00:10 |
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davef | i've also been using it on Ubuntu too | 00:11 |
daftykins | diddledani: lol do they do it when arguing about contact pages or some such? | 00:14 |
daftykins | "don't tell 'em how to contact us!" | 00:14 |
diddledani | nah, clients are fine, it's people asking for help on the WordPress.org forums I'm thinking about | 00:16 |
daftykins | ah | 00:16 |
daftykins | wow they must really be in trouble if they go there ;D | 00:16 |
diddledani | often devs, or people who sold themselves as devs ;-p | 00:16 |
daftykins | xD | 00:16 |
daftykins | oh allow me to present to you the local bus service website which has at last been redone - and has managed to get worse! www.buses.gg | 00:17 |
diddledani | they seem to think that posting about client work is fine, but woe betide the url ever be linked to their identity! | 00:17 |
daftykins | warning: eye bleaching will occur | 00:17 |
daftykins | the largest issue is that on the timetables page, you can no longer see the destinations at each time point | 00:18 |
diddledani | oh, they've only done the start and end, but no stops between | 00:19 |
diddledani | aah, they've made it into a "you must select!" | 00:20 |
davef | wow, i thought our transport company website was bad | 00:21 |
diddledani | these are clickable to change the start and end: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ECSP5Rtq/Screenshot%20from%202021-12-06%2000-21-27.png | 00:21 |
daftykins | i do not like | 00:22 |
diddledani | me either | 00:22 |
daftykins | also, are your eyes screaming yet? | 00:22 |
diddledani | they've turned it into a mobile-only site | 00:22 |
davef | Rue de Chateau? lol, you in frog land? | 00:22 |
daftykins | things i haven't heard before on IRC :P | 00:23 |
daftykins | oui oui, j'habit au le frog | 00:23 |
daftykins | *j'habite ? i quit French early | 00:23 |
davef | hein? c'est bizarre .. lol | 00:23 |
diddledani | I thought french would be a required subject in the tax haven | 00:23 |
daftykins | heh | 00:24 |
daftykins | you could escape and do German or Spanish instead | 00:25 |
davef | Guys, why are all your street names in French? You all frickin' speak English. | 00:25 |
daftykins | well not everyone, there are still some elderly folk who speak the Patois | 00:26 |
daftykins | Guernsiaise! | 00:26 |
davef | So I could go over there and flex my French? | 00:26 |
daftykins | personally i quite like our quirky heritage - as pseudo-Brits | 00:26 |
davef | Because I've never been there | 00:26 |
daftykins | well i suppose it's as equally bastardised as Canadian French | 00:27 |
diddledani | they'll look at you funny, because you've got American French | 00:27 |
davef | American French.. lol, it's called Quebecois | 00:27 |
daftykins | well he'd rock up with his duty free bag of jaffa cakes and wearing his Crocs so they'd already be staring funny | 00:27 |
daftykins | ;D | 00:27 |
davef | K, on my way | 00:28 |
diddledani | do they sell DutyFree jaffas? | 00:28 |
davef | I think next visit to the UK, I might hop over for a few days, since I've never been. | 00:28 |
daftykins | nah but i kind of made it up the other day and i'm sticking to it | 00:28 |
daftykins | ah ha! well drop on by, you'd be very welcome | 00:28 |
daftykins | assuming no plague carrying and all that | 00:29 |
daftykins | <_< >_> | 00:29 |
diddledani | wait, two Daves in the same place?! | 00:29 |
daftykins | that'll be fun, i'll have to call my pal who is another | 00:29 |
davef | Hopefully by August the plague will be mostly done | 00:29 |
daftykins | apparently the pool team i joined used to be called The Steaming Daves until the # of Daves dropped too low | 00:29 |
davef | Everybody needs a Dave in their life. | 00:30 |
davef | Even other Daves | 00:30 |
davef | lol | 00:30 |
diddledani | https://media.giphy.com/media/qOIk7ZjwmT9cc/giphy.gif | 00:30 |
daftykins | diddledani: oh so the other thing is the planner page on buses.gg, it now accepts any location as a destination - so will then recommend walking (gasp) to get there, sometimes on the road of the same name due to it not showing you what's a bus stop and what isn't | 00:30 |
diddledani | eep | 00:31 |
daftykins | at least you don't get forced to type the . in "St. Julian's Avenue" for searches to work now, for example | 00:31 |
daftykins | that was rather derp | 00:31 |
davef | Like Google Maps telling you to swim the Atlantic | 00:31 |
diddledani | and kayak it too | 00:32 |
davef | Sadly Google Maps doesn't tell you to do this anymore | 00:32 |
davef | Fun.. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/omicron-variant-may-have-picked-up-a-piece-of-common-cold-virus-1.5693909 | 00:43 |
davef | And this fits into the theory of as it becomes more transmissible, it gets less potent. | 00:44 |
daftykins | o0 | 00:45 |
davef | If true and it becomes the dominant strain, then all we have to worry about is catching a cold. -_- | 00:45 |
diddledani | yeah, I was talking with my family earlier and muted that it might get to be more cold-like | 00:45 |
diddledani | although, key to this discussion is this bit of sentence: "not yet been peer-reviewed" | 00:47 |
diddledani | it could be entirely bunkum | 00:48 |
davef | At the beginning, it was bad. But as we learn more, develop good hygiene habits, etc. it becomes less worrisome. | 00:48 |
davef | I just hope the one thing people take away from this when the pandemic is officially declared to be over is, stay the f*** home if you're sick. | 00:48 |
zxmpi | millions dead and people still refuse to get masks, get vaccinated | 00:51 |
diddledani | "you know, morons" | 00:52 |
davef | Chin bras are so in right now | 00:52 |
diddledani | https://youtu.be/KHJbSvidohg | 00:52 |
davef | lol, i love that scene. a legit laugh at the end of that | 00:56 |
daftykins | never seen! is that Willy Wonka? | 01:10 |
davef | Blazing Saddles | 01:10 |
daftykins | heh i know that part but is that the same dude that plays Willy? | 01:11 |
davef | Yeah, that's Gene Wilder | 01:12 |
diddledani | yes, or big willy, as he likes to be called | 01:12 |
davef | oof. so I just paid the credit cards for my trip to the UK | 01:23 |
davef | that hurt lol | 01:23 |
diddledani | ouch | 01:25 |
davef | just a snip over $3000 spent | 01:26 |
daftykins | that's a lorra jaffa cakes | 01:27 |
davef | I did travel club class, rent a car for 10 days, pay for gas (holy hell your gas is EXPENSIVE), treated my parents, uncle and niece to lunch. | 01:27 |
davef | Plus all the misc. stuff spent at Tesco and Morrisons lol | 01:27 |
daftykins | hey, you'll speak the Queen's around 'ere! that's petrol ;) | 01:27 |
daftykins | although i don't personally touch the stuff | 01:28 |
davef | I filled up the rental car (okay, it was a SUV) and I stood there in disbelief. | 01:28 |
davef | I made poor choices, but I'm going to live by them | 01:29 |
davef | diddledani: do I want this? https://www.shop.wirelessnetware.ca/ethernet-routers/441-rb5009ugsin.html | 01:47 |
daftykins | did i tell you folks that my pal in Geneva got 10 Gb fibre (no joke) although the fastest LAN port is 2.5Gb - he got 250 MB/sec on Steam | 01:49 |
davef | bond 4 of them 2.5 together, make sure whatever you use supports multilink = profit | 01:50 |
davef | I can get 1.5Gbps over here | 01:50 |
davef | But it does mean using Bell Canada, no thanks. | 01:51 |
daftykins | i think only the one port was, i forget | 01:51 |
davef | I can get Gigabit for the same price I'm paying for Cable | 01:52 |
davef | Or maybe symmetrical 500Mbps for $10 less | 01:52 |
daftykins | woot | 01:53 |
daftykins | quite looking forward to them rolling it out here in the island, but i am in the centre of town so i won't see it anytime soon - if at lal | 01:54 |
daftykins | *all | 01:54 |
daftykins | https://i.imgur.com/dlMyw5H.jpeg | 03:01 |
davef | lol | 03:26 |
knightwise | morning everyone | 07:03 |
diddledani | https://twitter.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/1467198434901962754 | 12:59 |
zxmpi | shocked.not.that.shocked.gif | 13:42 |
davef | British Gov, do as we say, not as we do. | 13:57 |
daftykins | you mean all gov? | 16:20 |
zxmpi | mind in ireland we had golfgate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oireachtas_Golf_Society_scandal | 16:34 |
zxmpi | a bunch of politicians had a big party during lockdown | 16:34 |
davef | OK, which one of you said why not? | 17:46 |
davef | I've just spent the morning reading docs, setting up a K8s playground and ripping chunks of hair out of my head. The whole CNI thing, who wrote that doc? I'm totally new to K8s.. clearly it was written by a software engineer that's never done a day of support. | 17:48 |
knightwise | hey davef | 17:50 |
diddledani | davef: where have you spun it up? | 17:51 |
knightwise | i have a team of 4 devs that have never done a day of support in their 6 years of service | 17:51 |
diddledani | the whole yaml explosion of k8s is a mess | 17:51 |
knightwise | putting them to work starting januari | 17:51 |
knightwise | one day of support every week | 17:51 |
diddledani | helm is even worse because of go templates | 17:52 |
diddledani | at least you can find pre-written helm charts to use | 17:52 |
davef | diddledani: just in a VM environment on my PC | 17:54 |
davef | I have my master and two nodes. | 17:54 |
knightwise | shey diddledani | 17:54 |
davef | Seems to be working, I think | 17:55 |
davef | [root@k8s-master ~]# kubectl get nodes | 17:55 |
davef | NAME STATUS ROLES AGE VERSION | 17:55 |
davef | k8s-master Ready control-plane,master 88m v1.22.4 | 17:55 |
davef | k8s-node1 Ready <none> 82m v1.22.4 | 17:55 |
knightwise | cd ~ && wget http://syncterm.bbsdev.net/syncterm-src.tgz | 17:56 |
knightwise | srry | 17:56 |
diddledani | the annoying thing with k8s yaml is it's literally the over-the-wire data you send to the controller - there's zero friendly abstraction there | 17:57 |
diddledani | that's why you get so many `spec` blocks that are all different | 17:57 |
davef | why can't we all just use VMs? | 17:58 |
davef | OVAs used to be king | 17:58 |
diddledani | something something webscale | 17:58 |
diddledani | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs | 17:58 |
davef | Your MongoDB will be owned if you don't actually secure it, out of the box it's insecure. MySQL at least makes an effort. | 18:01 |
diddledani | yes. all the big data leaks have been unsecured mongos | 18:02 |
diddledani | also elasticsearch is another one | 18:02 |
diddledani | leaky as poo | 18:02 |
davef | I'm clearly behind in all this stuff. | 18:03 |
davef | I realize I know nothing about Docker, K8s and other buzzwords and it's frustrating. | 18:03 |
diddledani | I'd love to hear how mundane your game servers are | 18:04 |
davef | So I'm trying to do something about it, but finding the docs are written by engineers that never wrote support docs. | 18:04 |
diddledani | the docs are awful! | 18:04 |
diddledani | I think it's an attempt at protecting high salaried developers by not making it easy to enter | 18:04 |
davef | I miss the ATI, things moved slowly. Still running X.25 lines, Windows 7, Server 2016, bare metal, reliable Cisco networks. | 18:05 |
diddledani | I mean if you make it easy then the prices for the job will go down so the people who are currently employed will find they lose out | 18:05 |
davef | But all I'm seeing this day is to make the most complicated 'Hello, World' application | 18:06 |
davef | I think you're right, it's a high barrier to entry. | 18:12 |
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