[00:10] k, so i've been giving MS Edge (chrome version) a solid poke. I hate to say it, but I'm liking it. [00:11] i've also been using it on Ubuntu too [00:14] diddledani: lol do they do it when arguing about contact pages or some such? [00:14] "don't tell 'em how to contact us!" [00:16] nah, clients are fine, it's people asking for help on the WordPress.org forums I'm thinking about [00:16] ah [00:16] wow they must really be in trouble if they go there ;D [00:16] often devs, or people who sold themselves as devs ;-p [00:16] xD [00:17] oh allow me to present to you the local bus service website which has at last been redone - and has managed to get worse! www.buses.gg [00:17] they seem to think that posting about client work is fine, but woe betide the url ever be linked to their identity! [00:17] warning: eye bleaching will occur [00:18] the largest issue is that on the timetables page, you can no longer see the destinations at each time point [00:19] oh, they've only done the start and end, but no stops between [00:20] aah, they've made it into a "you must select!" [00:21] wow, i thought our transport company website was bad [00:21] these are clickable to change the start and end: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ECSP5Rtq/Screenshot%20from%202021-12-06%2000-21-27.png [00:22] i do not like [00:22] me either [00:22] also, are your eyes screaming yet? [00:22] they've turned it into a mobile-only site [00:22] Rue de Chateau? lol, you in frog land? [00:23] things i haven't heard before on IRC :P [00:23] oui oui, j'habit au le frog [00:23] *j'habite ? i quit French early [00:23] hein? c'est bizarre .. lol [00:23] I thought french would be a required subject in the tax haven [00:24] heh [00:25] you could escape and do German or Spanish instead [00:25] Guys, why are all your street names in French? You all frickin' speak English. [00:26] well not everyone, there are still some elderly folk who speak the Patois [00:26] Guernsiaise! [00:26] So I could go over there and flex my French? [00:26] personally i quite like our quirky heritage - as pseudo-Brits [00:26] Because I've never been there [00:27] well i suppose it's as equally bastardised as Canadian French [00:27] they'll look at you funny, because you've got American French [00:27] American French.. lol, it's called Quebecois [00:27] well he'd rock up with his duty free bag of jaffa cakes and wearing his Crocs so they'd already be staring funny [00:27] ;D [00:28] K, on my way [00:28] do they sell DutyFree jaffas? [00:28] I think next visit to the UK, I might hop over for a few days, since I've never been. [00:28] nah but i kind of made it up the other day and i'm sticking to it [00:28] ah ha! well drop on by, you'd be very welcome [00:29] assuming no plague carrying and all that [00:29] <_< >_> [00:29] wait, two Daves in the same place?! [00:29] that'll be fun, i'll have to call my pal who is another [00:29] Hopefully by August the plague will be mostly done [00:29] apparently the pool team i joined used to be called The Steaming Daves until the # of Daves dropped too low [00:30] Everybody needs a Dave in their life. [00:30] Even other Daves [00:30] lol [00:30] https://media.giphy.com/media/qOIk7ZjwmT9cc/giphy.gif [00:30] diddledani: oh so the other thing is the planner page on buses.gg, it now accepts any location as a destination - so will then recommend walking (gasp) to get there, sometimes on the road of the same name due to it not showing you what's a bus stop and what isn't [00:31] eep [00:31] at least you don't get forced to type the . in "St. Julian's Avenue" for searches to work now, for example [00:31] that was rather derp [00:31] Like Google Maps telling you to swim the Atlantic [00:32] and kayak it too [00:32] Sadly Google Maps doesn't tell you to do this anymore [00:43] Fun.. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/omicron-variant-may-have-picked-up-a-piece-of-common-cold-virus-1.5693909 [00:44] And this fits into the theory of as it becomes more transmissible, it gets less potent. [00:45] o0 [00:45] If true and it becomes the dominant strain, then all we have to worry about is catching a cold. -_- [00:45] yeah, I was talking with my family earlier and muted that it might get to be more cold-like [00:47] although, key to this discussion is this bit of sentence: "not yet been peer-reviewed" [00:48] it could be entirely bunkum [00:48] At the beginning, it was bad. But as we learn more, develop good hygiene habits, etc. it becomes less worrisome. [00:48] I just hope the one thing people take away from this when the pandemic is officially declared to be over is, stay the f*** home if you're sick. [00:51] millions dead and people still refuse to get masks, get vaccinated [00:52] "you know, morons" [00:52] Chin bras are so in right now [00:52] https://youtu.be/KHJbSvidohg [00:56] lol, i love that scene. a legit laugh at the end of that [01:10] never seen! is that Willy Wonka? [01:10] Blazing Saddles [01:11] heh i know that part but is that the same dude that plays Willy? [01:12] Yeah, that's Gene Wilder [01:12] yes, or big willy, as he likes to be called [01:23] oof. so I just paid the credit cards for my trip to the UK [01:23] that hurt lol [01:25] ouch [01:26] just a snip over $3000 spent [01:27] that's a lorra jaffa cakes [01:27] I did travel club class, rent a car for 10 days, pay for gas (holy hell your gas is EXPENSIVE), treated my parents, uncle and niece to lunch. [01:27] Plus all the misc. stuff spent at Tesco and Morrisons lol [01:27] hey, you'll speak the Queen's around 'ere! that's petrol ;) [01:28] although i don't personally touch the stuff [01:28] I filled up the rental car (okay, it was a SUV) and I stood there in disbelief. [01:29] I made poor choices, but I'm going to live by them [01:47] diddledani: do I want this? https://www.shop.wirelessnetware.ca/ethernet-routers/441-rb5009ugsin.html [01:49] did i tell you folks that my pal in Geneva got 10 Gb fibre (no joke) although the fastest LAN port is 2.5Gb - he got 250 MB/sec on Steam [01:50] bond 4 of them 2.5 together, make sure whatever you use supports multilink = profit [01:50] I can get 1.5Gbps over here [01:51] But it does mean using Bell Canada, no thanks. [01:51] i think only the one port was, i forget [01:52] I can get Gigabit for the same price I'm paying for Cable [01:52] Or maybe symmetrical 500Mbps for $10 less [01:53] woot [01:54] quite looking forward to them rolling it out here in the island, but i am in the centre of town so i won't see it anytime soon - if at lal [01:54] *all [03:01] https://i.imgur.com/dlMyw5H.jpeg [03:26] lol [07:03] morning everyone [12:59] https://twitter.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/1467198434901962754 [13:42] shocked.not.that.shocked.gif [13:57] British Gov, do as we say, not as we do. [16:20] you mean all gov? [16:34] mind in ireland we had golfgate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oireachtas_Golf_Society_scandal [16:34] a bunch of politicians had a big party during lockdown [17:46] OK, which one of you said why not? [17:48] I've just spent the morning reading docs, setting up a K8s playground and ripping chunks of hair out of my head. The whole CNI thing, who wrote that doc? I'm totally new to K8s.. clearly it was written by a software engineer that's never done a day of support. [17:50] hey davef [17:51] davef: where have you spun it up? [17:51] i have a team of 4 devs that have never done a day of support in their 6 years of service [17:51] the whole yaml explosion of k8s is a mess [17:51] putting them to work starting januari [17:51] one day of support every week [17:52] helm is even worse because of go templates [17:52] at least you can find pre-written helm charts to use [17:54] diddledani: just in a VM environment on my PC [17:54] I have my master and two nodes. [17:54] shey diddledani [17:55] Seems to be working, I think [17:55] [root@k8s-master ~]# kubectl get nodes [17:55] NAME STATUS ROLES AGE VERSION [17:55] k8s-master Ready control-plane,master 88m v1.22.4 [17:55] k8s-node1 Ready 82m v1.22.4 [17:56] cd ~ && wget http://syncterm.bbsdev.net/syncterm-src.tgz [17:56] srry [17:57] the annoying thing with k8s yaml is it's literally the over-the-wire data you send to the controller - there's zero friendly abstraction there [17:57] that's why you get so many `spec` blocks that are all different [17:58] why can't we all just use VMs? [17:58] OVAs used to be king [17:58] something something webscale [17:58] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs [18:01] Your MongoDB will be owned if you don't actually secure it, out of the box it's insecure. MySQL at least makes an effort. [18:02] yes. all the big data leaks have been unsecured mongos [18:02] also elasticsearch is another one [18:02] leaky as poo [18:03] I'm clearly behind in all this stuff. [18:03] I realize I know nothing about Docker, K8s and other buzzwords and it's frustrating. [18:04] I'd love to hear how mundane your game servers are [18:04] So I'm trying to do something about it, but finding the docs are written by engineers that never wrote support docs. [18:04] the docs are awful! [18:04] I think it's an attempt at protecting high salaried developers by not making it easy to enter [18:05] I miss the ATI, things moved slowly. Still running X.25 lines, Windows 7, Server 2016, bare metal, reliable Cisco networks. [18:05] I mean if you make it easy then the prices for the job will go down so the people who are currently employed will find they lose out [18:06] But all I'm seeing this day is to make the most complicated 'Hello, World' application [18:12] I think you're right, it's a high barrier to entry.