[00:02] <imi> how do I unlock/deactivate the screensaver from commandline? (gnome) xset dpms force on only turns the screen back and it remains black with the mouse pointer visible. I want the display to be fully reactivated with the screensaver inactivity timer reset (therefore eventually activating the screensaver again)
[00:04] <sarnold> imi: if you want to disable it entirely, check this out https://askubuntu.com/a/1079035/33812
[00:05] <sarnold> imi: there's probably a way you can inhibit the screenlocker while another program is running.. I'm sure I saw one of those..
[00:05] <imi> ok
[00:05] <imi> in that case
[00:06] <imi> I want the locking of the screen to be disabled for a preset period (say, an hour) and then re-enabled again
[00:06] <imi> making sure the screen gets locked
[00:06] <imi> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver lock-enabled true won't lock the screen if the screensaver is already active
[00:07] <tomreyn> devios: this sounds like some of the changes you made will need to be reverted. if you don't know exactly what you changed, maybe the easiest option is a fresh installation
[00:07] <matsaman> there is probably some 'caffeine' app for that, they're pretty common for OSes
[00:07] <matsaman> lots of other ways, though
[00:08] <matsaman> including the dumbest, simplest way: kill the screen saver app
[00:08] <matsaman> restart it when you want it back
[00:08] <tomreyn> there's only the screen locker, and that's gdm, which is also the login manager. you don't want to kill that
[00:09] <devios> tomreyn, agreed. that's what i'm currently doing.  i didn't tweak any config files or anything like that.  guessing it had something to do with installing xrdp and then trying to rdp into it from another system, then removing xrdp. thinking somehow that broke or overwrote or deleted some configuration.
[00:11] <sarnold> imi: jeeze, it's hard to find the inhibit stuff online. this is the best I've found so far https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=167863  -- you could use dbus-send or dfeet or something else in place of qdbus
[00:11] <matsaman> tomreyn: silly gnome devs
[00:11] <tomreyn> matsaman: i disagree for this aspect.
[00:12] <matsaman> tomreyn: why?
[00:13] <tomreyn> devios: i don't think just installing and removing xrdp would cause this, although if the login manager was changed to that, maybe it would be why.
[00:14] <tomreyn> matsaman: having the login manager handle the screen locking does have the potential of overcoming the myriad of problems there have been with past screen locking mechanisms (which some other ubuntu flavors still have)
[00:14] <devios> anyone have a recommendation (other than xrdp) for how to remote into the gnome gui of one ubuntu system from another ubuntu system?
[00:15] <devios> (both on local network)
[00:15] <matsaman> tomreyn: I suppose that's a fair argument, one less codebase to worry about
[00:15] <tomreyn> devios: vino / vinagre, x2go
[00:16] <matsaman> although it still only applies to people who are encrypting their data =P
[00:16] <matsaman> but I digress
[00:24] <devios> thanks, tomreyn
[00:24] <gry> good
[01:07] <dennis_> will linux ever become mainstream?
[01:08] <Ashburry> yes
[01:08] <Ashburry> and very soon
[01:08] <dennis_> i sure hope so.  some of the distro's are getting really polished
[01:08] <Ashburry> It has some more work that needs to be done, but for the most part boot-up and shutdown are cleanly supported properly
[01:08] <tomreyn> !discuss | dennis_ , Ashburry
[01:09] <dennis_> thanks!  will do
[01:09] <Ashburry> the paid versions of Linux are usually main stream ready
[01:20] <imi> sarnold: thanks
[01:21] <sarnold> imi: did you get something sorted?
[01:21] <imi> sarnold: I got showered :)
[01:21] <imi> I'll investigate tomorrow
[01:21] <imi> but thanks for the help
[01:21] <sarnold> imi: lol :)
[01:21] <sarnold> imi: still, satisfying :)
[01:21] <sarnold> have a good night
[01:46] <evilrat> hi
[01:47] <user23> Hi
[02:32] <rhombus> I
[02:33] <rhombus> How do I create a new topic on discourse.ubuntu.com?
[02:36] <tomreyn> rhombus: did you solve this miracle, yet?
[02:37] <DarkTrick> **Q** I can't start chromium and instead get a "cannot open /proc/self/cgroup: Permission denied". Any ideas?
[02:37] <DarkTrick> (happened after upgrade 21.04 -> 21.10)
[02:38] <gry> rhombus: hi
[02:38] <gry> rhombus: do you want to ask for technical support there? or something else?
[02:39] <gry> rhombus: waiting for your response...
[02:45] <gry> rhombus: if you have an ubuntu one account, please log in. After a few hours or days of browsing the Discourse site while logged in, it will stop thinking that you're a spammer, and you will be able to create a new post.
[02:45] <gry> rhombus: see https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/limiting-brand-new-user-accounts/10687 for a discussion of this, please.
[02:45] <gry> rhombus: does this help?
[02:48] <TeslabRat> anyone got an idea what a malfunctioning TeslabRat might look like when Neuralink starts chipping people next year? We know what a malfunctioning Tesla looks liike.
[02:49] <tomreyn> !ot | TeslabRat
[03:34] <dsd> hi
[03:35] <dsd> need help
[03:35] <gry> hi. what help?
[03:35] <dsd> im trying to install kubuntu but after install i get an error grub no such partition
[03:36] <gry> does it have a grub rescue prompt, or not?
[03:36] <dsd> i tried reinstalling it (alongside win10) but i may doing something wrong cause i have the same problem
[03:36] <dsd> yes it has grub rescue
[03:37] <dsd> should i try reinstall kununtu or do something else?
[03:38] <dsd> i also can see that i have a partition of ubunty installed (running through a kubuntu live)
[03:41] <gry> wait a few moments, checking
[03:42] <dsd> ok
[03:42] <dsd> thx
[03:43] <gry> dsd in grub rescue prompt, type 'ls'
[03:43] <gry> it will list your partitions
[03:43] <dsd> ok one sec
[03:44] <dsd> just booting
[03:44] <dsd> ok so i things like (hd0,msdos4)
[03:45] <dsd> i remember that ubuntu is in ext4
[03:46] <Bashing-om> dsd: gry: looks maybe that the ubuntu install is in legacy mode and needed is to match win10's UEFI mode in order that bood code is correct ?
[03:47] <Bashing-om> bood/boot*
[03:48] <dsd> ok so how to do i solve this if thats the case should i try reinstalling ubuntu ? would that be easier?
[03:52] <leftyfb> dsd: I would first look in your BIOS and make sure secure boot is disabled and if it's a laptop. if "RAID" is enabled, then you have what's called a fake RAID and won't work properly with linux without more work than it's worth
[03:55] <gry> dsd: please check the secure boot like leftyfb said first. and write here about what you find
[03:56] <Bashing-om> dsd: Might try and boot the system CSM mode from the firmware - see now if it boots ubuntu.
[03:57] <leftyfb> honestly I would check for fake RAID first
[03:57] <leftyfb> that's a show-stopper and not that uncommon
[03:57] <dsd> ok one sec just checking
[04:00] <dsd> i dont see a secure boot option anywhere
[04:00] <dsd> i have a boot setting configuration but it has only
[04:01] <dsd> boot from onboard lan or bootup num lock
[04:02] <dsd> i see a thing saying boot Failure guard
[04:02] <dsd> not sure what this is though
[04:15] <dsd91> hi im back no luck with safe boot option
[07:15] <alkisg> dsd91: are you on a live cd now?
[07:24] <webchat76> hi guys, can anyone help with some basic bash script.. consist of two parts, but cant find info how to glue them together..
[07:35] <EriC^^> paste
[07:35] <EriC^^> !paste
[07:39] <Ashburry> I am trying to find the locate of my zsh executable. I have tried locate zsh but have found nothing useful. Anyone know how to find it?
[07:42] <ducasse> Ashburry: please don't crosspost
[07:43] <ducasse> has updatedb been run after zsh was installed?
[07:43] <Ashburry> not yet
[07:44] <ducasse> then run it before trying locate or it won't find it
[07:44] <Ashburry> okay, thank you
[07:54] <ducasse> if it's somewhere in your path try 'which zsh'
[08:18] <gpeskens> Anyone able to help figure out an issue I'm having with my audio since a mobo upgrade? I'm on 21.10 and upgraded my mobo to a MSI x570s Torpedo board, main line out audio is functioning fine. The issue is with the front panel headphone jack output, while presence is detected when I plugin my headphone jack audio is routed (at a reduced volume) out the main line out, the headphones remain silent. I figured I might've improperly connected the front panel
[08:18] <gpeskens> header, but just confirmed it working by booting into another OS. Anyone have an idea?
[08:19] <imi> how can I make the ubuntu background to cycle between images at ~/.local/share/backgrounds (or some other location)?
[08:20] <gpeskens> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/pY6h38zJYJ/ <-- hw device list
[08:21] <gpeskens> Strange thing is also the settings interface recognizes it as an USB audio device, while I'm quite sure it's on chipset
[08:22] <ducasse> imi: try wallch or variety
[08:23] <ducasse> you can use 'apt search' to search the repo
[08:29] <imi> can I add a directory to either wallch or variety?
[10:03] <DarkTrick> **Q** I can't start chromium and instead get a "cannot open /proc/self/cgroup: Permission denied". Any ideas? (happened after upgrade 21.04 -> 21.10)
[10:18] <locsmif> Is there a tool to read monitor serial number from the cli?
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> locsmif: try inxi -Gxxx
[10:54] <locsmif> lotuspsychje: eh
[10:54] <locsmif> heh
[10:54] <locsmif> I wrote the tool inxi was forked from :P
[10:55] <locsmif> But anyways, the answer is it's very difficult apparently, especially with daisy chaning
[10:55] <locsmif> chaining*
[10:55] <locsmif> Also, I must now reboot, something's fucky in my WM/DE
[10:56] <jwhitmore> Hello all, struggling with wpa_supplicant which is disconnecting too many times, predominately reason 3 & 4. Wpa_supplicant is started by wpa-conf in /etc/network/interfaces and I can't find info on how I enable wpa_supplicant logging to a file in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf config file. Everything I can find starts wpa_supplicant directly with a '-f' option.
[11:02] <Unit193> Dang, was going to tell him that it was re-written in perl.
[11:08] <Kuleshov> Welcome to International Advanced Direct Connect Hub with Encryption Security and Unicode support. https://dchub.one
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> not here please Kuleshov
[11:09] <Kuleshov> ok
[11:09] <Kuleshov> sorry
[11:33] <jwhitmore> wpa_supplicant.conf doesn't appear to have any config options for enabing logging at all
[11:39] <KBar> jwhitmore: by default, it uses systemd-journal for logging.
[11:41] <jwhitmore> KBar, thank you, there is some stuff going to /var/log/syslog but not much detail I'll try journalctl
[11:45] <KBar> jwhitmore: `journalctl --boot --unit=wpa_supplicant`
[11:49] <jwhitmore> I was using journalctl -b -u wpa_supplicant. same same but different. Just service started and not thing more. Syslog has info on the disconnects but not much. Wanted to up the log level, but hard to find
[11:52] <KBar> jwhitmore, try `wpa_cli level debug`
[11:57] <jwhitmore> KBar, Oh you might have something there! I ran that command and got a bit FAIL because "Selected interface 'p2p-dev-wlan0'"  that's not the interface, which is just 'wlan0'. Is there some confusion in all the networking as to what interface is in use?
[11:57] <jwhitmore> s/bit/big/
[12:00] <HiHoGo> Hi all trying to find the md5sum for this ubuntu arm os here https://ubuntu.com/download/server/arm. its weird its not included
[12:00] <KBar> jwhitmore, you obviously need to stop it first. try starting with this command: `wpa_supplicant -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -iwlan0 -d`
[12:01] <KBar> HiHoGo: try here: https://releases.ubuntu.com/
[12:01] <tomreyn> HiHoGo: md5 hasing is broken, you should find checksums generated using newer hash functions, though
[12:01] <KBar> you can also connect via ftp to cdimage.ubuntu.com or releases.ubuntu.com
[12:01] <KBar> md5sum isnt safe though
[12:02] <tomreyn> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/20.04/release/SHA256SUMS
[12:02] <tomreyn> there is also https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/20.04/release/SHA256SUMS.gpg
[12:03] <HiHoGo> tomreyn: KBarare you talking about using an sha sum
[12:03] <KBar> yes
[12:03] <KBar> its more secure and modern
[12:04] <KBar> takes a bit more time
[12:04] <HiHoGo> KBar: FOR THE 20.04 HERE https://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/ THERE IS NO ARM VERSION ISO AND CHECKSUM
[12:04] <KBar> to compute
[12:04] <KBar> HiHoGo: try the links tomreyn gave you
[12:05] <HiHoGo> oops not shouting
[12:05] <HiHoGo> tomreyn: is that for the 20.04 arm build iso or not
[12:05] <KBar> HiHoGo: can you press the links and see for yourself?
[12:06] <KBar> HiHoGo: the link I gave you literally presents you all the files in a nice format in your web-browser
[12:06] <KBar> including its manifest, iso, checksums
[12:06] <HiHoGo> ok thanks guys for your help on that
[12:06] <jwhitmore> KBar, this is a remote device that I'm trying to diagnose so restarting it will kill my connection. That's fine I can reconnect, but wpa_supplicant is stated via /etc/network/interfaces with  wpa-conf wpa_supplicant.conf If I kill wpa-supplicant manually to restart it will systemd or networking try to restart it as well? If there's no clashes between various network management services I could restart with a small
[12:06] <jwhitmore> script that kills and restarts with wpa_supplicant -c wpa_supplicant.conf -f /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log -ddd
[12:07] <xharx> hi, ich bin von arch migriert und versuche, meine thunderbird- Daten zu migrieren, wie hier beschrieben https://support.mozilla.org/de/kb/thunderbird-daten-auf-neuen-rechner-uebertragen. Jetzt kriege ich eine Fehlermeldung, dass wohl ein Versionskonflikt vorliegt, denn auf dem alten System hatte ich die neueste Version installiert, auf ubuntu ist die Version aber noch 78.14.0. Wie gehe ich vor, um die DAten zu migrieren?
[12:08] <KBar> jwhitmore: I see. In that case, refer to this file `/usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.gz`
[12:08] <KBar> xharx, join #ubuntu-de for that.
[12:09] <croraf> Hi guys, I have Ubuntu and 3 partitions. Can I create a virtual machine's virtual hard disk on another partition than my primary (the one with Ubuntu)?
[12:09] <xharx> KBar, , thx
[12:10] <KBar> crofaf, if you have already have set up additional partitions, just configure the path while creating a new virtual machine.
[12:11] <jwhitmore> KBar, thank you I'll go through that and see if I can find the solution. Thanks for your help
[12:12] <KBar> No problem.
[12:14] <tomreyn> HiHoGo: it is, amongst other. but i think you already noticed.
[12:19] <HiHoGo> tomreyn: hi I dont have any sha checksums installed what do i need to install for the sha 256. i cant seem to see anything obvious for that
[12:19] <HiHoGo> not in synaptic
[12:19] <KBar> HiHoGo it's provided by the GNU coreutils package
[12:20] <KBar> should be installed by default
[12:20] <KBar> HiHoGo the command is `sha256sum`
[12:20] <HiHoGo> ok thanks i will take a look.
[12:20] <Aarch64debian> type sha then press tab in terminal
[12:21] <KBar> Aarch64debian: won't work because there are a bunch of commands for sha1, sha224, etc.
[12:21] <Aarch64debian> tab twice
[12:21] <KBar> pressing twice will show the list tho
[12:23] <tomreyn> HiHoGo: if you change into the directory where the downloaded image file and the SHA256SUM (checksums file) is located, you can run    sha256sum --check     and it should report OK for the image file
[12:24] <HiHoGo> thanks i already dont that
[12:28]  * HiHoGo is suffering from late night linux overdose mode  
[12:30] <KBar> at least its not windoze
[12:32] <HiHoGo> KBar: nothing wrong with that Windows or OSX they all have their place
[12:43] <Aarch64debian> anything can crack an encrypted 7z file?
[12:44] <Znevna> a good password
[12:44] <Aarch64debian> idk the pass
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> cracking topics are not really the scope of this channel Aarch64debian
[12:55] <guysoft42> Hey all, i want to find the Ubuntu person maintaing this package: linux-modules-extra-5.13.0-1010-raspi . I know this is not the channel, but was hoping someone might know where I should go? I am the maintainer of CustomPiOS/OctoPi/UbuntuDockerPi/PleromaPi and some of the distros have issues installing this package headless
[13:00] <KBar> guysoft42, visit packages.ubuntu.com and enter the name of that package in the search box
[13:00] <KBar> guysoft42: you can also do this: packages.ubuntu.com/PACKAGE_NAME
[13:01] <KBar> guysoft42, apt should also show the maintainers and uploaders
[13:01] <KBar> guysoft42: `apt show PACKAGE_NAME`
[13:01] <KBar> many ways
[13:18] <waveform> guysoft42, that package is part of the linux-raspi package (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-raspi); if you file a bug against that package it should get to the right people -- but (as someone involved with Ubuntu on the pi), what's the issue you're seeing installing that package headless?
[13:33] <guysoft42> waveform, I maintain several distros and build systems that need to install that package, but it seems to be creating a symlink to vmlinuz-5.13.0-1010-raspi and fails for some reason
[13:38] <guysoft42> Its happening because /boot is vfat in the current build system
[13:39] <waveform> guysoft42, ahhh -- that would explain things. So you've got the boot partition mounted on /boot rather than /boot/firmware ?
[13:40] <waveform> (though I'm still puzzled why *that* package specifically is creating that symlink -- the regular kernel packages should *also* be creating those symlinks from /boot/vmlinuz->specific-version and /boot/initrd.img->specific-version)
[13:43] <guysoft42> yes
[13:43] <guysoft42> I am trying to write a workaround now
[13:44] <guysoft42> I might be able to handle it on my end
[13:44] <malatini> ls
[13:45] <waveform> okay -- I'd be reasonably sure it's not the linux-modules-extra package specifically; pretty much all the kernel packages will try to re-write the symlinks under /boot (vmlinuz, initrd.img, and dtb, and their .old counterparts) whenever they get installed, and for that reason it needs to be an fs which supports symlinks (so the boot partition itself winds up mounted under /boot/firmware on debian, ubuntu and the like
[13:46] <waveform> (I know raspbian/raspios mounts theirs directly on /boot but they have a different means of handling kernel updates, directly from their kernel package rather than via a mechanism like flash-kernel)
[13:47] <waveform> (come to think of it, it's probably flash-kernel that's managing those symlinks)
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:59] <guysoft42> waveform, ok, ill play with it more here, thanks for the heads up
[14:14] <ogra_> waveform, isnt that actuall handled in the kernel deb itself through a setting in /etc/kernel-img.conf (IIRC is was something like do_symlinks=yes or so) ? that should be overridable via the config ...
[14:15] <ogra_> ... or link_in_boot=yes ...
[14:17] <SteelRose_> Hi all! any Tomcat experts here? someone deleted everything under /opt/tomcat/work/Catalina/work/localhost and it is triggering some errors... is there any way to recreate that directory structure again? Would restarting Tomcat do that? THanks!
[14:17] <waveform> ogra_, hmmm -- that gets read by linux-update-symlinks (although the man-page for that seems ... somewhat different to what's actually in /etc/kernel-img.conf) but I thought f-k also played some role in managing symlinks (and is another thing that gets called by the kernel postinst scripts, at  least on the pi)
[14:19] <waveform> ogra_, actually -- that's bizarre -- the man-page for linux-update-symlinks talks about "no_symlinks" in kernel-img.conf, while (my?) kernel-img.conf has a "do_symlinks" option. I wonder which is correct (I'm guessing the man-page is just out of date -- at least I hope so!)
[14:21] <ogra_> waveform, i think do_symlinks actually refers to the symlinks in / ... while link_in_boot is the one that is rsponsible for the links you described above
[14:21] <waveform> ogra_, ah -- you're absolutely right, it's not f-k managing those symlinks, it is linux-update-symlinks (configured via kernel-img.conf). f-k *does* manage the dtb symlinks, but only in certain cases; and the initrd symlink but only when "method: symlink" is set for the board
[15:46] <jwhitmore> KBar, I got logging in the wpa_supplicant sorted, thanks again. The system is disconnecting due to Beacon loss. I've found this kernel bug listed so that might be the issue: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203709
[15:47] <KBar> jwhitmore: you're welcome.
[16:00] <plarke> Hi all! Does anyone know of a solution for better distinguishing between different windows of the same program?
[16:00] <plarke> I was thinking each successive window could have a different theme
[16:03] <KBar> plarke are you running GNOME?
[16:03] <plarke> KBar: yep
[16:05] <KBar> plarke: worth trying: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/3769/distinct-windows/
[16:07] <plarke> That looks great, thanks
[16:08] <KBar> np
[16:11] <plarke> KBar: doesn't seem to do anything(20.04). Do you use that extension?
[16:12] <plarke> KBar: Oh wait, I see what it does. nvm
[16:13] <KBar> plarke sadly only works after accessing the Activities/Overview menu
[16:13] <plarke> KBar: yeah exactly
[16:14] <KBar> Still better than nothing. :)
[16:14] <plarke> Yeah, I wonder if there's anything else out there. This is a hard topic to google bc of the word 'windows' lol
[16:15] <KBar> plarke: What do you mean? Just use in conjuction with other keywords, such as GNOME shell.
[16:16] <KBar> plarke: you can also search through GNOME Extensions.
[16:16] <KBar> plarke: another option would be to ditch GNOME altogether. :P
[16:17] <plarke> KBar: and use what
[16:26] <Joel> Ubuntu 20, any way to have scroll bars just show up? instead of only showing on hover?
[16:28] <enyc> Joel: 20.04LTS-focal?  or 20.10 ?
[16:30] <Joel> .04
[16:35] <KBar> Joel, set the `GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING` environment variable to 0 and export it
[16:36] <Joel> GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0 pinta; - Still no showing scroll bar, just a tiny sliver, and an hover scroll bar
[16:36] <KBar> Joel, what is pinta?
[16:36] <Joel> a program?
[16:36] <KBar> No.
[16:36] <KBar> It should be 0
[16:36] <KBar> no pintas :)
[16:37] <Joel> Uh, you can set environment variables for a specific invocation of a program.
[16:37] <KBar> Do you want it for a specific program or the whole desktop?
[16:37] <KBar> You did not specify that, my friend.
[16:37] <Joel> It doesn't work.
[16:38] <tomreyn> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface overlay-scrolling false
[16:38] <KBar> ah
[16:38] <KBar> +1
[16:39] <Joel> tomreyn does that require restarting anything? still getting wonky scroll bars in pinta
[16:40] <Joel> gsettings get definitely showed it as true
[16:40] <KBar> No.
[16:40] <KBar> It applies immediately.
[16:40] <tomreyn> i don't actually know. but trying should not be tough
[16:41] <tomreyn> 20.04 LTS defaults to xorg still, you shoul dbe able to just Alt-F2 and type r and press enter
[16:45] <Joel> tomreyn yeah I'll give it a go
[16:46] <KBar> :)
[16:51] <kyle__> All of my snaps just stopped working for one user (the only normal user on that system).  As root they still work.  Snap refresh and restarting the sanpd service didn't help.  No obvious error in the log unless it's burred.
[16:52] <kyle__> All I'm seeing is, "internal error, please report: running "go" failed: cannot create transient scope: DBus error "System.Error.E2BIG": [Argument list too long]"
[16:52] <KBar> kyle__ `lsb_release -ds; snap version`
[16:53] <kyle__> Of course, sorry, Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS. snap 2.52.1
[16:59] <kyle__> If the other bits of info in there would actually help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7nzjV3vsjd/
[17:00] <kyle__> O_o you need an ubuntu one account to view those pastes now?
[17:02] <kyle__> Let me know if I need to use another pastebin for people to view it.
[17:03] <kyle__> JIC this provides something relevant I missed, this is the exact output of running a snap (go in this case, but any snap) as that user.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RDC79QHm4s/
[17:09] <KBar> kyle__: thank you. Personally, I don't use Snaps. Hang around a bit and maybe someone knowledgeable will offer their help.
[17:21] <jpw> hey can ayone reveal any docs on how auto-installs are supposed to be done now days? I have found https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall-quickstart but the installer never seems to pick up my user-data or meta-data and continues to ask me all the questions as if I had started the installer directly off the CD. any pointers?
[17:22] <tomreyn> TheHoliestRoger: please leave the channel until you found a suitable nickname
[17:22] <TheHoliestRoger> tomreyn: found it
[17:22] <TheHoliestRoger> sorry didn't realise the nick police were in today
[17:26] <pycode> hello
[17:26] <EriC^^> hello
[17:27] <pycode> i would like to create a shared folder on windows and let my pc (ubuntu 20.04) see the content
[17:27] <pycode> the laptop and pc are on the same network
[17:27] <pycode> 192.168.1.59 (laptop) 192.168.1.108 (pc)
[17:27] <pycode> could anyone share a good tutorial to understand how to configure it ?
[17:28] <kyle__> KBar: Thanks.
[17:28] <jpw> pycode: open your favourite gui file manager and navigate to smb://192.168.1.108/<share name> eg smb://192.168.1.108/MyFiles
[17:29] <pycode> ok
[17:29] <jpw> pycode: assuming you have already created the share on the windows pc
[17:30] <pycode> jpw, i have created a sahred folder on win sure
[17:30] <pycode> jpw, pardon how can i navigate to that address in file manager?
[17:31] <pycode> i do not see an input to write such location
[17:31] <tomreyn> press ctrl-L
[17:31] <pycode> oh thank you tomreyn !!
[17:32] <jpw> that's the one, i was struggling to find it.
[17:32] <pycode> :D
[17:32] <jpw> previously (?) you could just click the path bar
[17:32] <pycode> hmm i see the loading icon
[17:32] <pycode> i just wrote the ip of win machine
[17:32] <guysoft42> waveform, ok, got another issue with flash-kernel. It tries to flash or something in the chroot
[17:33] <pycode> i would like to find all the shared folder
[17:33] <guysoft42> dpkg: error processing package flash-kernel (--configure):
[17:33] <guysoft42> 16:02:57  installed flash-kernel package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[17:33] <guysoft42> 16:02:57 Errors were encountered while processing:
[17:33] <guysoft42> 16:02:57  flash-kernel
[17:33] <pycode> instead of accessing one directly
[17:33] <guysoft42> waveform, ^
[17:33] <jpw> pycode: then simply don't specify the share name smb://ip
[17:34] <pycode> jpw, yeah i did that...but still loading.....
[17:34] <KBar> jpw, you can just press "/" which will prompt you. good for absolute paths
[17:35] <jhutchins> Does it prefer the winbind hostname to the IP?
[17:37] <pycode> still loading so i suspect it does not working properly hmmmm
[17:37] <pycode> how can i check the hostname or something like that? :F
[17:38] <pycode> The name of the laptop is.... LAPTOP
[17:38] <raub> So I have a ubuntu host whose OS I installed from scratch, with kernel 5.4.0-91-generic. And one which I upgrade, with kernel 4.4.0-161-generic. Why the kernel discrepancy?
[17:39] <tomreyn> raub: different ubuntu releases?
[17:39] <raub> tomreyn: Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS vs Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS
[17:40] <KBar> there is no way
[17:40] <raub> KBar: if that was a comment on my issue, pastebin can be provided upon request
[17:40] <tomreyn> 4.4.0-161-generic is veeeery outdated
[17:41] <tomreyn> never was on focal
[17:41] <KBar> exactly
[17:41] <raub> tomreyn: Does that mean do-release-upgrade gone bad?
[17:41] <tomreyn> raub: possibly, i don't know what was done
[17:42] <KBar> raub, if you mean you tried LinuxFromScratch, you can join #lfs on irc.linuxfromscratch.org
[17:43] <raub> KBar: thank you for the info; I will save it even though I do not think it is relevant to my question
[17:43] <raub> (it might be useful in the future)
[17:44] <raub> In the problematic host, VERSION="20.04.3 LTS (Focal Fossa)" in /etc/os-release
[17:45] <raub> focal is also in /etc/apt/sources.list on said host
[17:45] <tomreyn> raub: do you have an ubuntu support question we can help you with?
[17:45] <pycode> i followed this: https://www.c-sharpcorner.com/article/how-to-share-files-between-ubuntu-and-windows-10/
[17:46] <pycode> but when i try to reach the win pc i cant do smb://192.168.1.59
[17:46] <pycode> infinite loading
[17:46] <pycode> maybe i miss some packages
[17:47] <raub> tomreyn: I would now like to know what happened to problematic host as it has old kernel and packages match 20.1
[17:48] <tomreyn> raub: apt logs are in /var/log/apt , release upgrade logs are somewhere in /var/log as well
[17:48] <raub> Thanks
[17:48] <tomreyn> what is "20.1"?
[17:48] <raub> I meant 20.04.3
[17:49] <raub> Sorry for being hopelessly innacurate
[17:50] <KBar> tomreyn: I think release upgrades are merged with /apt/history.log, but I might be wrong. we had a similar issue a week or two ago and they appeared in that file.
[17:50] <pycode> ooookay wait
[17:50] <pycode> i can connect to that laptop
[17:50] <pycode> the problem is that the laptop is on wifi
[17:50] <pycode> so it changes the ip
[17:50] <pycode> how can i reach that laptop by name or something ?
[17:51] <pycode> i was not able to reach it because i was trying .59 but i changed it changed the ip to .61
[17:51] <pycode> so i can see the content of the shared folder
[17:51] <pycode> but i would like to mount that shared folder when the laptop is connected to the network
[17:51] <pycode> how can i do that?
[17:52] <pycode> ok i can reach it by hostname smb://LAPTOP/shared is working!
[17:53] <tomreyn> KBar: hmm, i was thinking do-release-upgrade had its own logs, but i can't check this right now
[17:53] <pycode> but i do not understand why it is asking me to enter the password when i disabled it on win
[17:55] <tomreyn> pycode: i don't remember the details but i seem to recall that it gets more complicated if you don't require a password.
[17:56] <pycode> tomreyn, it is not a big problem...i mean... ok i wrote the password and it works..but "sounds strange"
[17:57] <tomreyn> if you'll read more documentation that might stop being so
[17:57] <KBar> :)
[17:58] <pycode> tomreyn, another problem i see is that ok i can connect via smb:// but for some reasons when i click on Windows network icon it does nothing
[17:58] <pycode> tomreyn, yes of course
[17:58] <pycode> :)
[18:01] <tomreyn> pycode: sorry, i'm a really bad advisor when it comes to dealing windows shares. i don't know how to solve this.
[18:02] <KBar> Can we stop this discussion about W-word? :)
[18:02] <pycode> tomreyn, no problem me too :D
[18:06] <KBar> tomreyn: I stand corrected. They are supposed to reside in /var/log/dist-upgrade: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUpdateManager
[18:06] <pycode> reboot, thank you!
[18:07] <jhutchins> pycode: I believe there is a "guest" setting on the windows share/permissions, but I'm several windows versions out-of-date.
[18:07] <pycode> jhutchins, yes i have found that
[18:07] <pycode> but...i do not know, i try to fix it restarting
[18:07] <pycode> :D
[18:07] <pycode> ahahah
[18:07] <jhutchins> pycode: Microsoft cheats.
[18:07] <tomreyn> KBar: thanks for checking
[18:08] <pycode> jhutchins, ahahah
[18:09] <KBar> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:21] <jhutchins> Accessing foreign shares is on-topic.
[18:53] <dubiago> So, trying to use nmcli to connect to wifi...SSID has spaces in it...wrapped that SSID in quotes...can see the hardware with lspci. nmcli radio wifi shows enabled. After running nmcli dev wifi connect <ssid>: No Wi-Fi device found.
[18:53] <dubiago> Could it be a driver issue?
[18:54] <tomreyn> could be
[18:54] <dubiago> No ethernet. That's gonna be fun.
[18:55] <tomreyn> try both double and single ticks, one by one
[18:58] <tomreyn> dubiago: you can actually specific the BSSID as an alternative to the SSID
[19:09] <jhutchins> dubiago: WiFi hardware has often had incompatible standards for ssid and passwords.  I've had to replace items before because the requirements conflicted.
[19:11] <dubiago> Dude is trying to set up Ubuntu server on a Chromebook...WiFi seems to always be a problematic thing, particularly when setting up via the CLI
[19:12] <dubiago> I know I had my own rout with it on a Pi 4B
[19:12] <dubiago> Anyway, MAC attempted with nmcli...still No Wi-Fi device found...I'm thinkin' drivers...
[20:07] <fuzzymanboob98[m> anyone have a favourite backup tool? Currently I use Déja Dup but not very happy with it and others I looked into rely on atime or something else that's not present in NTFS(my home folders are symlinked to an NTFS drive)
[20:07] <fuzzymanboob98[m> s/symlinked/symlinks/
[20:09] <kyle__> fuzzymanboob98[m: I mean, that's just a front end on duplicity.  What about it do you not like?
[20:11] <fuzzymanboob98[m> It's super barebones, I can't even choose what day of the week/time it makes the backups, nor any granularity on how many backups to keep and how long.
[20:15] <kyle__> I /think/ you can just run duplicity from cron, to control the time of day.  And then only use the gui for browsing them as needed.
[20:17] <kyle__> I think same thing for how many to keep, etc.  The GUI is super bare bones, because gnome beleives the more switches you give users the worse things get.
[20:38] <PaperPlates> Hi
[21:20] <merpnderp> Are there scripts to help your ubuntu server install pass the sec scan stuff?
[21:20] <merpnderp> I'm slowly writing my own and it is taking forever.
[21:24] <matsaman> merpnderp: "the sec scan"?
[21:26] <merpnderp> matsaman: there's some perl secScan tool security used and the audit is full of things we have to fix. But it's all stuff that surely someone has written a script to do before.
[21:27] <merpnderp> like this: https://secscan.acron.pl/centos7/5/4/1/4
[21:40] <matsaman> merpnderp: some script your security department used?
[21:40] <matsaman> but you don't know where this script lives online?
[21:42] <merpnderp> matsaman: I assume they used that site.
[21:42] <matsaman> what site?
[21:43] <merpnderp> https://secscan.acron.pl/start
[21:44] <merpnderp> okay never mind. Apparently we have some internal process that does the scan which just happens to share a lot of sections with that website.
[21:45] <merpnderp> Iv'e got like 80 items I need to write bash to fix.
[21:45] <sarnold> merpnderp: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/using-the-ua-client-to-enable-the-cis-benchmarking-tool#1-overview
[21:45] <merpnderp> But now I'm writing bash scripts to make sure the password expire dates are within a year and other such nonsense.
[21:46] <merpnderp> All our accounts are through AD. Why do I need to set the Ubuntu password expiration config? I'm in hel..
[21:46] <merpnderp> I've died and don't realize it.
[21:47] <sarnold> ah, perhaps you need to have a conversation with whoever maintains your tooling
[21:49] <merpnderp> Yeah, maybe.
[22:08] <kyle__> Repeating a question from earlier today, just to see...
[22:09] <kyle__> trying to run snaps, I see "internal error, please report: running "go" failed: cannot create transient scope: DBus error "System.Error.E2BIG": [Argument list too long]"
[22:09] <kyle__> It just started mid-use of the go snap, and it effects all snaps as a normal user, but not root
[22:12] <matsaman> snaps =P
[22:17] <lucenera> I 💖 Ubuntu
[22:17] <kyle__> I know.  I was young and I needed money.  I'm ashamed.
[23:22] <barnaba> Hello, I am once again having some memory issues on a desktop system that shouldn't really have memory issues (I think?) and have trouble tracking them down. I have just been visited by earlyoom, which is set to act at 10% free, cause I have no swap. Here's the relevant output I have, I don't think it adds up to 18 GB used?
[23:22] <barnaba> https://pastebin.com/0hcfywcB
[23:23] <gry> https://pastebin.com/raw/0hcfywcB -- raw paste of yours, without ads
[23:24] <barnaba> Thanks.
[23:25] <gry> can you do the same output, but without MBs? just output it in bytes or whatever. and don't show the first two columns. i'd like to do the summation.
[23:32] <barnaba> gry: https://pastebin.com/raw/4Ubx2RHH and full output of ps is in here: https://pastebin.com/raw/Hz74u5tT
[23:33] <barnaba> I'm noticing this and my previous paste is already significantly lower than what I got right after oom acted, which was used 26623 avail 4505
[23:35] <barnaba> rss is in kilobytes I believe
[23:40] <barnaba> fwiw the output of awk summation seems to match the parts summed in libre office calc to 1MB or so
[23:45] <barnaba> I'm back to ~6000 available now, yet the script I've used previously doesn't seem to show anything extremely big. Ferdi is the only process accountable for over 1 GB with 2.84GB.
[23:47] <JoeBk> I just installed 21.04
[23:58] <barnaba> Well I think I'll just reboot then, cause I'm living on the verge of another oom visit. Uptime was 9 days, so if something is leaking it's leaking hard, but I can't really find the problematic program. Will be back.