=== genii is now known as genii-core === WrathOfAchilles is now known as Kuraokami [11:50] o/ Bashing-om ;)* [11:51] Bashing-om, hi [11:51] soon they will apply [11:52] nicoz-: Great you also attend. [11:52] Hello :) [11:52] hi youngbin [11:52] I leave you to your meeting, I look in the shade ... lol [11:52] ty [11:54] Mr_Pan: Good to meet you also - You do such good works :) [11:54] :) [11:55] o/ [11:55] o/ [11:55] hi madhens thank you for your support [11:55] Of course! [11:56] we only bring good people Bashing-om [11:56] nicoz-: Our job is to filter :P [11:58] I leave you to your meeting .. good continuation.. and good luck to the candidate ... i follow in silence ;) [11:58] We seem to be one applicant short - hope codemouse shows up . [11:58] hopefully yes [11:58] Let me ping him! [11:59] madhens: Great - glad ya got a contact. [11:59] In the words of Thor, "he's my friend from work!" [12:00] lol [12:00] *HULK SMASH* [12:01] There we go :) [12:01] ok is everyone here? [12:01] yeah CodeMouse92 ! [12:01] Hello! [12:02] present [12:02] Hello o/ [12:02] hi CodeMouse92 [12:02] present [12:02] #startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board 15th December 2021 [12:02] Meeting started at 12:02:59 UTC. The chair is diddledani. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [12:03] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [12:03] here comes the paste! [12:03] Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for 15th December 2021. The wiki page for the Review Boards is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards [12:03] We will attempt to get through all the applicants that have added themselves to that list, or posted a thread to the Ubuntu Discourse, before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the complete list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. [12:03] The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). [12:03] Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page or Ubuntu Discourse thread. After the introduction, the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. [12:03] During this time, it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. [12:03] When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If most of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (Feel free congratulate them!) [12:03] Now, with any further ado, let's get started with the first applicant... [12:04] #topic CodeMouse92 (Jason C. McDonald) [12:04] Hi, CodeMouse92 , can you introduce yourself to the board, and provide the links to your wiki page/discourse post and LP profile? [12:04] Hi diddledani, sure. [12:05] My name is Jason C. McDonald. I'm an author, speaker, and senior software engineer, presently working on the Canonical Public Cloud team at Canonical... [12:05] I've been using Ubuntu since about 2012, and been a part of the IRC community for about that long... [12:06] Perhaps most significantly for membership qualification, I run a year-long internship program through MousePaw Media, my open source organization. Ubuntu is our operating system of choice, and I've introduced many young developers to Ubuntu, Linux, and open source in general. [12:07] I also enjoy fixing computers for people as a hobby, and have introduced many people to Ubuntu that way as well. Turns out, many people who struggle to understand Windows do great on Ubuntu with a few minutes of orientation! [12:07] Discourse: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jason-c-mcdonald-codemouse92-membership-application/25577 [12:07] LP: https://launchpad.net/~codemouse92 [12:07] Thank you. :) [12:08] Thank you CodeMouse92 . I'll now open the floor to the board members to ask any questions. [12:09] CodeMouse92: In addition to your "work" - have you not been active in support on the IRC channels ? [12:09] Firsts up from me, You've signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. Can you confirm that you understood the code when you signed it and affirm that you will follow the code while you are a member? [12:09] Bashing-om: I have on occasion, although not frequently. [12:10] diddledani: Absolutely. [12:10] awesome :-) (that's just a formality, but we have to confirm it ;-p) [12:12] CodeMouse92 are you a member of your local loco [12:12] or any other loco? [12:12] Kilos: I actually didn't know that was a thing until this moment. I just moved to this state, so I'm only just learning what's here. [12:13] Getting involved with your loco (if it's active) is a good thing, though not all the locos are active (like mine, in the UK) [12:13] I am impressed with your work, joining a loco gives you more people to guide and team up with [12:14] Ahhhhh, Tony Yarusso is the admin of that one. I know him. Yeah, I'll reach out and find out more. [12:14] cool [12:15] any more questions? [12:15] (Hmm. Ubuntu US MN looks inactive. I'll still talk to Tony.) [12:16] We should be hearing more from the LoCo research group the CC started in the new year, too [12:16] yey [12:17] many locos have faded because of all the new ways of communication nowadays, but still good to be part of them and help them grow back again [12:17] madhens: Yeah - was going to mention that a big effort is ongoing to rejuvenate. [12:18] If there's no more questions I'll open the vote (wait for the bot!) [12:18] telegram and facebook have stolen many. to my dismay [12:18] #vote CodeMouse92 membership application [12:18] Please vote on: CodeMouse92 membership application [12:18] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname') [12:18] #voters diddledani Kilos Bashing-om [12:18] Current voters: Bashing-om, Kilos, diddledani [12:18] go [12:19] +1 [12:19] +1 received from Kilos [12:19] +1 solid application. well written, and good testimonials. You've shown a great contribution and I love that you're helping to bring young people aboard [12:19] +1 solid application. well written, and good testimonials. You've shown a great contribution and I love that you're helping to bring young people aboard received from diddledani [12:20] +1 susteined contributions - expect the trend to continue. [12:20] +1 susteined contributions - expect the trend to continue. received from Bashing-om [12:20] Thanks all :) [12:20] congratulations CodeMouse92 ;)* [12:20] Congrats! [12:20] Proxy vote from WildMan: +1 [12:20] #endvote [12:20] Voting ended on: CodeMouse92 membership application [12:20] Votes for: 3, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0 [12:20] Motion carried [12:20] ignore the bot, it's actually +4 [12:20] Woo! ┗(＾0＾)┓ [12:20] Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!! [12:21] :P [12:21] congratulations CodeMouse92 [12:21] CodeMouse92 congratulations and welcome aboard [12:21] CodeMouse92: Congrats - the orange glow commences :P [12:21] with that, let's move onto the next applicant [12:21] #topic youngbin [12:22] Hi, youngbin , can you introduce yourself to the board and post the links to your wiki page/discourse post, and your Launchpad profile? [12:22] Sure diddledani :) Hello everyone, I'm Youngbin Han. [12:23] I first met Ubuntu in 2021 and joined Korean LoCo to learn more and meet people interested about Ubuntu. I'm currently representative of Korean LoCo, and also organizer of last UbuCon Asia 2021. [12:24] * diddledani corrects - you met Ubuntu in 2012 ;-p [12:24] silly numbers! [12:24] As Organizer of Korean LoCo, I've organizing many Ubuntu related activities in Korea. such as: seminars, workshops, cowork with other local open source communities. [12:25] + I wonder how other LoCos in Asia organize their activities. So, I organized the first UbuCon Asia to reach diverse LoCos in Asia and share knowledge and experience with them. [12:26] I'm also currently student at Sungkonghow University and DevOps Engineer Cloudmate(based on Seoul). Nice to meet you all :) [12:27] Discourse application: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/youngbin-han-membership-application/25669 [12:27] Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YoungbinHan [12:27] :wave [12:27] LP: https://launchpad.net/~ybhan [12:27] bah I suck at emoji [12:27] 🙋‍♀️ [12:27] That emoji looks nice :) [12:28] ok, I'll let the board members have a read through your pages, and ask any questions [12:28] 👌 [12:28] hehe [12:28] First question from me, same as I asked CodeMouse92 , You've signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. Can you confirm that you understood the code when you signed it and affirm that you will follow the code while you are a member? [12:29] Sure, Of course :) [12:29] great! [12:30] next question, and completely for my own curiosity, did the UbuCon Asia go well? Will you be organising another one? [12:32] Yes, But we should see how situation (COVID-19 situation) goes next year. then we should decide whether organize online or in-person. [12:32] great [12:32] I thinking ask organizers and make decision on late Q1 2022 [12:32] that makes sense. The world is making in-person so difficult right now [12:33] * diddledani pokes the world with a pointy stick [12:33] haha [12:33] Silly world. Be better. [12:33] Kilos, Bashing-om, do you have any questions? [12:33] None: In my association with the Newsletter I have encountered youngbin's works on a number of occasions. Deeply impressed :D [12:34] thank you :-) [12:34] nope I am happy [12:34] ok, let's vote then (wait for it...) [12:34] #vote youngbin Membership Application [12:34] Please vote on: youngbin Membership Application [12:34] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname') [12:34] #voters diddledani Bashing-om Kilos [12:34] Current voters: Bashing-om, Kilos, diddledani [12:34] go [12:34] +1 [12:34] +1 received from Kilos [12:35] +1 Strong advocate! [12:35] +1 Strong advocate! received from Bashing-om [12:35] +1 you are clearly very involved with your loco, and you are well known to the community. Your testimonials are great! [12:35] +1 you are clearly very involved with your loco, and you are well known to the community. Your testimonials are great! received from diddledani [12:35] Yay! Thank you all XD [12:36] Proxy vote from WildMan: +1 [12:36] great asset for ubuntu [12:36] #endvote [12:36] Voting ended on: youngbin Membership Application [12:36] Votes for: 3, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0 [12:36] Motion carried [12:36] ignore the bot, it's +4 [12:36] youngbin welcome onboard. keep up the good work [12:36] Thank you Kilos :) [12:37] congratualtions youngbin - well done. [12:37] Congratulations to the new members ... I'm very happy for yours applications CodeMouse92 & youngbin [12:37] Yaaaaay! Well deserved congratulations, Youngbin! [12:37] What a great end to the membership year :) [12:37] madhens thank you for your great work once again. keep it up [12:37] Thanks a lot madhens! especially for your awesome testimonial! [12:37] Congrats, youngbin :) [12:38] Thank you CodeMouse92 :) [12:38] as they said to me I say to you... it’s just a matter of making your own contribution :P [12:38] Congratulations CodeMouse92 and youngbin . I'll get you added to the LP group shortly. Your @ubuntu.com email address will go live within 48 hours (it's on an automated job) - don't set your @ubuntu.com address as your LP primary email as that will cause an infinite loop. Don't forget to check out the other perks at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership and apply for your certificate once I've added you to the group at [12:38] https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/ [12:38] kilos you are more than welcome [12:38] with that, I'll end the meeting [12:38] #endmeeting [12:38] Meeting ended at 12:38:45 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-12-15-12.02.moin.txt [12:38] thank you everyone :-) [12:39] diddledani thank you for chairing [12:39] And very excited to see what you both'll do next. :) [12:39] Thanks all :) [12:39] to the next madhens and diddledani ;) [12:39] Thank you so much, membership board! And thank you Dani for getting WildMan's proxy vote. [12:40] * diddledani hugs madhens [12:40] ditto [12:40] I totally need to get to an inperson meeting that you're at to give you a proper hug, madhens [12:41] * Kilos jealous [12:41] lol [12:41] Keep poking the world to make that possible! [12:42] * diddledani pokepoke [12:42] Kuraokami do you know who developed meetingology? [12:42] hope I don't pop it tho [12:42] Kilos don't be jealous :P [12:42] lol [12:42] xD [12:42] too old for anything but a hug [12:43] all experience Mr Kilos [12:44] madhens how many new members are you bringing next? [12:44] Oooooh. I should be ambitious about that :) I have a good feeling about 2022 [12:45] great [12:45] <3 [12:45] :P [12:45] aw it doesnt work here [12:45] I think that even the new Italian members should not underestimate them [12:46] madhens: I have a long list of prospective members: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ZbtFHQq6uMj7iuRLd11VH8V5Uc_FA0IfgiRUcbMbQk/edit . [12:46] what a star you are [12:47] are you still cross with me for calling you the crazy chicken? [12:48] Bashing-om Nice! [12:48] I am going to get some caffeine and a walk, but thank you all so much. You all are part of what makes this project (and my job) pretty amazing. [12:49] madhens ;)* [12:49] madhens: You do your part making Ubuntu amazing :D [12:49] have a nice walk [12:49] go safe [12:49] I am because we are. :) Bye! *poofs* [12:49] you’re all extraordinary [12:50] :) [12:51] storm brewing here. i go batten the hatches [12:51] thank you all [12:51] ;)* [12:52] Stay safe, Kilos [12:52] hi Kilos see you later [12:52] ty [12:52] hi all, and my compliments to CodeMouse92 and youngbin :) [12:53] CodeMouse92 youngbin I knew from the beginning that you were excellent users, I looked at your profiles === genii-core is now known as genii [15:58] o/ [16:01] yo [16:02] te-ward can't make it so it's just you and me, let's start things up - i have another mtg at the bottom of the hour so hopefully we can get thru things in just 30 min [16:02] #startmeeting Ubuntu Backporters [16:02] Meeting started at 16:02:15 UTC. The chair is ddstreet. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:02] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [16:02] sure [16:03] for the action items of mine, i won't mention the ones that are done (i'll just remove them when i edit the page) [16:03] #topic ddstreet email ubuntu-devel list to announce re-opening of backports (carried over) [16:03] not yet :( [16:03] i was thinking maybe this should wait until we update backportpackage, to possibly avoid anyone's confusion with using it? [16:03] in any case, the announcement probably can wait until jan [16:04] #action ddstreet email ubuntu-devel list to announce re-opening of backports (carried over) [16:04] ACTION: ddstreet email ubuntu-devel list to announce re-opening of backports (carried over) [16:04] imho we can do regardless of backportpackage, just mentioning it it's still not ready [16:04] ack [16:04] should we open a proper bug(s) against u-d-t for these things, assigned to the proper people, etc? :) [16:04] yeah that's probably a good idea [16:04] then you can just mention the bug in the mail, etc [16:04] yep, do you want an action to open the bug? or should i open it [16:05] if you can do it, ♥ [16:05] yep :) [16:05] #action ddstreet open bug on u-d-t to update backportpackage script [16:05] ACTION: ddstreet open bug on u-d-t to update backportpackage script [16:05] #topic ddstreet raise topic of rescheduling meeting on ML [16:05] i think i forgot about this one [16:06] i'll carry it over then [16:06] #action ddstreet raise topic of rescheduling meeting on ML [16:06] ACTION: ddstreet raise topic of rescheduling meeting on ML [16:06] seems i didn't do anything since the last meeting... [16:06] #action ddstreet update wiki page clarifying requestors should subscribe ~ubuntu-backporters to BPO bugs [16:06] ACTION: ddstreet update wiki page clarifying requestors should subscribe ~ubuntu-backporters to BPO bugs [16:06] #action ddstreet update internal KB page with details about uploads going to 'New' instead of 'Unapproved' queue (carried over) [16:06] ACTION: ddstreet update internal KB page with details about uploads going to 'New' instead of 'Unapproved' queue (carried over) [16:06] bad ddstreet ! :P ♥ [16:07] hey, at least i managed to get this meeting scheduled...that's 1 action i completed xD [16:07] #topic mapreri propose text for membership process to add to KB page (carried over) [16:07] carry over i assume? [16:07] ya [16:07] #action mapreri propose text for membership process to add to KB page (carried over) [16:07] ACTION: mapreri propose text for membership process to add to KB page (carried over) [16:08] #topic mapreri upload all the tools [16:08] "in progress" i guess [16:08] hey progress is good! [16:08] debhelper is done though, which is basically the basics [16:08] #action mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) [16:08] ACTION: mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) [16:08] since dh13 is used by most of those tools [16:08] yep, and i approved it in all the releases, so should be published now [16:09] i've just build u-d-t/focal using it (pulling from the archive) [16:09] ^^ [16:09] awesome :) you'll reupload udt to focal-backports? [16:10] i'll accept the bionic udt right after the mtg, i was just waiting for debhelper there to publish [16:10] and i think our process of one person uploads, another reviews/accepts is good [16:10] yap! just uploaded [16:10] i kicked the build when the mtg started [16:10] sweet! i'll review it after the mtg [16:10] #topic mapreri clean up https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-backporters/+subscribedbugs [16:10] i think i did it [16:10] yep looks done [16:11] thanks! [16:11] oh yes [16:11] #topic mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix [16:11] will you fix-release the bugs which you accepted the upload? [16:11] ah right i will do that [16:11] i filed https://bugs.debian.org/1001399 for that [16:11] Debian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open] [16:11] #action ddstreet fix-released bugs for accepted uploads [16:11] ACTION: ddstreet fix-released bugs for accepted uploads [16:12] [15 05:10:53 PM] -queuebot- Unapproved: ubuntu-dev-tools (focal-backports/universe) [0.185~bpo20.04.1 => 0.187~bpo20.04.1] (no packageset) [16:12] do we need to keep the action around until lintian is updated? [16:12] probably, it's also not yet fixed [16:12] please also link it in the agenda, so at least we remember to look at it every so often [16:12] (if it needs prods, etc) [16:12] #action mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) [16:12] ACTION: mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) [16:12] Debian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open] [16:12] yep [16:13] #topic teward update tooling, requestbackport (carried over) [16:13] he said he would give this action up? [16:13] i believe he asked for these to get reassigned since he's super busy with work [16:13] yep [16:13] unless you want 'em, i can take the action items - though i doubt i'll get to it before the new year [16:13] i "could" take it, but I'm sure i wouldn't get it done before eoy [16:13] me as well [16:13] i'll take the actions, but of course feel free to jump on it if you want to [16:14] ack [16:14] fine by me [16:14] #action ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) [16:14] ACTION: ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) [16:14] i assume the unassigned actions probably are still pending: [16:14] oh actually [16:14] #topic (unassigned) define details on handling members/leads who are no longer participating (carried over) [16:14] backportpackage should be done already i think [16:15] i might have accidentally already fixed it [16:15] oh ok awesome! lol [16:15] s/me/unit193/ [16:15] https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-dev-tools/commit/?id=cd4d717551f74b4dff4e7326fb2f655168ded69e [16:15] Commit cd4d717 in ubuntu-dev-tools "backportpackage: change the ubuntu backports version following the new policy from the Backporters team" [16:15] sweet well i'll leave the action just to check it then (along with requestbackport) [16:15] nice! [16:15] i don't use the tool myself though, so… [16:16] yeah, we should figure out some tooling at some point, at least for our review process [16:16] i still haven't looked at the 'queue' tool [16:16] anyway, tooling's likely a 2022 target [16:16] yap [16:16] #action (unassigned) define details on handling members/leads who are no longer participating (carried over) [16:16] ACTION: (unassigned) define details on handling members/leads who are no longer participating (carried over) [16:17] #action (unassigned) define process/procedure for adding new members (carried over) [16:17] wasn't this assigned to me [16:17] ACTION: (unassigned) define process/procedure for adding new members (carried over) [16:17] ? [16:17] i think it was, but i think last mtg you asked for it to be moved to unassigned [16:17] ah ok [16:17] do you want it back? :) [16:17] i still plan on doing it, but it seems i'm stuck with plenty of other things [16:17] I don't want to hog all of the actions! [16:17] lol [16:17] (especially when it's unlikely I'd get them done by the fortnight) [16:18] obviously feel free to do it if you get to it [16:18] #topic (unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls [16:18] i'll leave this unassigned too but i think you were planning on doing it at some point [16:18] #action (unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) [16:18] ACTION: (unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) [16:19] ok that's all the previous action items! [16:19] yeah i plan for it, but dch's code is much scarier than backportpackage's :> [16:19] i think our process is working pretty well so far [16:19] i don't have any other topics, besides me reviewing the udt uploads right after the mtg [16:20] anything from you? [16:20] I plan on doing that inkscape's bpo as well soon, which is, after libreoffice that "cut the queue", the first non-base-tools bpo i guess? [16:20] i might plan for other backports as well "soon", but i guess you'll see the bugs/mails for them as they come [16:21] i also think it's working sanely enough for now. it seems to me we totally need to figure out the queue tool, and see if/how that thing interacts with the bugs [16:21] it's clear that we are going to forget the bugs behind with our current review workflow? [16:21] yep, that's definitely our weak point now [16:21] agreed [16:21] let's put an action item just because it does need to get figured out [16:22] i fear it's going to require uploaders to put the tracking bug in the changelog, which likely is a good idea to do anyway? [16:22] add an action to see if we should/need add a point in the wiki page about this? [16:22] #action (unassigned) look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs [16:22] ACTION: (unassigned) look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs [16:22] i think the wiki already says to do that doesn it? [16:23] i guess I don't even remember the text i co-wrote [16:23] hmm maybe it doesnt [16:23] lol me neither xD [16:23] ok lemme action that just to make sure [16:23] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports#Preparing_the_Backported_Package it's only talking about the version i think [16:23] #action make sure wiki page includes requirement to add LP:# tag in backport changelog [16:23] ACTION: make sure wiki page includes requirement to add LP:# tag in backport changelog [16:24] yep does need to be added [16:24] in which case, backportbackage/dch could/should add a LP:#xxxxx template in the text as well [16:24] yep definitely [16:25] we don't need a specific action for that though, i think that's part of the whole 'look at backportpackage/requestbackport tooling' action [16:25] sure, let's keep it that way for now [16:25] ok i do need to schedule the next mtg too [16:25] #action ddstreet schedule next meeting [16:25] ACTION: ddstreet schedule next meeting [16:26] 2 weeks would be right at the end of the year, should we skip it and put the next mtg in jan? [16:26] it would be jan 12 [16:26] i'm cool with dec 29th tbh [16:26] at least [16:27] right now it sounds like a day i should be available [16:27] sounds good, i'll schedule it then, but i might not be able to make it, not sure yet [16:27] what do you say of marking it for the 29th, and then let's see if we can actually make it, at most push it back to jan then? [16:27] yep sounds good [16:27] s/most/worst/ [16:28] anything else before we wrap? sorry to rush the mtg [16:28] (…is "most" even correct in English there? that's coming from my italian leaking in :>) [16:28] I'm good, besides me thinking about grammar now /o\ [16:28] lol, yeah 'at most' is correct english, but not in that sentence :) [16:29] ok let's wrap then, thanks! [16:29] #endmeeting [16:29] Meeting ended at 16:29:17 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-12-15-16.02.moin.txt [16:29] o/ [16:29] loo, less than ½h! [16:29] +k [16:29] have great holidays, and talk to you dec 29! [16:29] o/ [17:21] ddstreet: mapreri: sorry i'm not here again log4j stuff is chaos right now, so i'm running around handling calls from partners, managers, etc. [17:21] and handling the whole "FIX IT" thing at FT job [17:21] so i'm running in "ERR: No Spare Cycles" mode [17:36] n/exit