[00:22] <Guest909> Hey guys, what would be the best tool / utility to backup my ubuntu 20.04 which is currently in a SSD - im currently using knoppix to access the filesystem of ubuntu cause my OS got screwed
[00:24] <oerheks> why backup a disfunctional ubuntu? backup your /home/  and reinstall? or fix it with an ubuntu live iso?
[00:25] <EriC^^> Guest909: you could use dd to make an image of it, laziest and easiest way, if you wanted to save space you could rsync the files, but that would entail more work to get it back running
[00:25] <EriC^^> +1 on oerheks
[00:26] <EriC^^> maybe just backup home and any other stuff, and make a list of installed packages
[00:26] <Guest909> oerheks  thats a good point but I would like to backup my important files faster instead of copy and paste them at my external storage, is there any tool to help me do so_
[00:27] <Guest909> EriC^^ yup, but like oerheks said a disfunctional ubuntu is complicated, I apologize for not being clearer
[00:27] <EriC^^> Guest909: no such thing, the copy/write operation is going to have to be done anyways
[00:27] <oerheks> not from a knoppix live iso.. s
[00:27] <Guest909> oerheks I can use the live iso of ubunt
[00:27] <oerheks> ctrl + a; ctrl + c
[00:27] <Guest909> yup, the old way lulz
[00:28] <EriC^^> press ctrl+h first to get all .hidden files too :D
[00:28] <Guest909> in windows I got a tool called FastCopy for instance, which was able to write faster
[00:28] <oerheks> and if you had no copy of your files, they are unimportant
[00:28] <Guest909> EriC^^ thnks!! Thats an important one! The hidden files
[00:28] <oerheks> tar-on-the-fly ?
[00:28] <Guest909> what would that be?
[00:28] <Guest909> archiving it would be faster for example
[00:29] <Guest909> isntead of copying one by one, archiving the folders to the external storage, I guess it would make the op faster
[00:29] <Guest909> I am almost sure there are methods to improve the quickness of the process
[00:29] <oerheks> why archieving it and copy after that?
[00:29] <oerheks> https://www.linuxwave.info/2014/10/using-tar-on-fly-to-efficiently.html
[00:29] <Guest909> I would archive them directly to the external storage
[00:30] <oerheks> enough possible backup answers, i guess
[00:30] <Guest909> thats cool oerheks!
[00:30] <Guest909> I guess I can backup part of them to ssh and another part of the files to my physical external storage
[00:30] <Guest909> Do u think it would be faster_
[00:30] <Guest909> Cause I remembering losing a day with backups when I copied and pasted them
[00:31] <Guest909> tools like ACRONIS Backup for win for example
[00:31] <Guest909> takes care of it
[00:31] <Guest909> but for linux I am unaware of any
[00:32] <Guest909> btw oerheks and EriC^^, besides snap store, do u guys know any website or app store for linux? to find this kind of utilities
[00:32] <Guest909> Github is also another one
[00:32] <oerheks> snapstore is the only legit one
[00:32] <Guest909> oerheks I find the snap store kind of unorganized in the sense of labelling the software
[00:33] <oerheks> https://snapstats.org/snaps?q=&offset=0&limit=20&field=date_published&order=-1 is pretty neat
[00:33] <Guest909> thanks oerheks!
[00:34] <Guest909> I find the snap store a cool v1.0
[00:34] <Guest909> but still got to improve in a lot of areas
[00:34] <Guest909> github seems to me the best way to get linux software so far
[00:34] <Guest909> but not as aesthetically pleasant as snap store
[00:34] <Guest909> and kind of mixed
[00:35] <Guest909> mixed between only code and code with the release ready to install
[00:47] <tomreyn> Guest909: good backup software: restic, borgbackup, bacula, duplicity
[01:59] <Aarch64debian> plz install xubuntu to raspberry pi 4, tested everything ok, then deliver an img
[02:03] <oerheks> install regular ubuntu, then sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop
[02:03] <oerheks> there is no xubuntu version for rpi, AFAIK
[02:04] <jkc> Correct.
[02:24] <bencc1> does a systemd service kill all process started under it when it get stopped?
[02:25] <bencc1> I have a python script started with a service. the script calls subprocess.open. will the child process get killed?
[02:42] <jhutchins> bencc1: Build the clean-up into your shutdown code.
[02:43] <bencc1> jhutchins: what shutdown code?
[02:43] <bencc1> what if the python script crashes?
[02:43] <jhutchins> bencc1: There's your first problem.
[02:43] <bencc1> I want the service to clean after me
[02:43] <bencc1> what's the problem?
[02:44] <jhutchins> bencc1: It sounds like your process doesn't end cleanly.
[02:44] <bencc1> it might crash like any other script
[02:45] <bencc1> doesn't the default KillMode setting clean up for me?
[03:48] <supercom32> So using Ubuntu 20.04, I noted that when applications on my primary monitor spawn windows (Ie. File Open dialogs, etc), they always appear on my secondary monitor. Is there a way to stop this?
[03:52] <spammy> supercom32: funny, I didn't notice that until I just tried
[03:53] <spammy> sure enough
[03:53] <supercom32> @spammy: This seems pretty silly! Surely this has to be a bug?
[03:53] <supercom32> I'm not sure if there is a good workaround for this.
[04:08] <supercom32> Ok, I'm back! Hopefully someone knows more about how to solve this strange `modial dialog launching on 2nd monitor` issue.
[06:31] <betty> i am connected aren't I?
[06:33] <Bashing-om> betty: Well - I read you well enough :D
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> can we help you with anything betty ?
[06:44] <betty>  all gud u have helped ty
[06:45] <betty> hello both of you hope you both been well
[06:48] <betty> actually you can help me with something if i have already given appropriate permissions to an AppImage file on my desktop chmod +x said.AppImage
[06:48] <betty> how do i run it from terminal
[06:49] <betty> i have tried ~/me/Desktop/said.AppImage and it says "<pre>balenaEtcher-1.7.1-x64.AppImage: command not found
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[06:50] <betty> just want to run appimage from terminal not gui so i can see what is going wrong (missing lib module)
[06:53] <betty> never mind transposition error im an idiot
[06:55] <orange1> go to folder where the program is and type ./programnamewhatever
[08:26]  * barnaba[m] uploaded an image: (2354KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/LcMfMdiORyJDGGRSDGGhjThB/image.png >
[08:26] <barnaba[m]>  some of my images in my browser become this some of the time, is this a hardware problem? What do I do?
[08:31] <ThinkT510> might be a graphics driver issue
[08:31] <ThinkT510> does the same happen in all browsers you try
[08:39] <weedmic> when I do "ifup eth0" I get "unknown interface eth0"  - how do i get eth0 to show up?  I read that there needs to be some file in /etc/network/interfaces.d directory, but I see on an identical machine this is not so.
[08:41] <weedmic> when i do "ip link show" - i see eth0 listed, but no ip.  when I try to assign it an ipaddress, it states "uknown interface eth0"
[08:47] <weedmic> fixed it using ip instead of ifconfig "ip  a add dev eth0 192.168.10.105/24" then "dhclient"
[09:33] <xxtraineexx> Anyone know where X mounts network shares?  trying to browse to them via command line
[09:34] <ducasse> under /media, i'd guess
[09:35] <xxtraineexx> That's what I thought but looks like nothing there
[09:35] <ducasse> also x doesn't mount anything, that is handled by other software
[09:36] <ducasse> see if you can see it in the output of 'mount'
[09:36] <xxtraineexx> nothing there about the network mappings
[09:38] <oerheks> most likely "/run/user/1000/"
[09:39] <xxtraineexx> i cant find them there either.  I'm going to try and just mount them manually from command line
[09:43] <xxtraineexx> that worked - maybe X doesnt actually mount them?
[09:44] <xxtraineexx> cd /home
[10:42] <acagastya> Hi, I have a hard disk, on which I had installed Ubuntu and windows.  Looks like the grub boot loader can't find Ubuntu.  So I can try mounting the Ubuntu home (or any other folders to /mnt).
[10:42] <acagastya> in which drive /boot or /root or something, am I supposed to run os-prober in?
[10:43] <acagastya> I could use a arch live boot to run the command, but where is that supposed to be located?
[10:45] <xun-irc333> hd0,x
[10:47] <xun-irc333> type ls in grub rescue
[11:18] <hejux> why the snap does not have the latest tmux?
[11:18] <hejux> it is tmux 2.3 ... wtf. older than package from apt // 18.04 here
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> hejux: volunteers cant advice much on snap maintained software; ask the dev himself? contact:   shawn.wang@canonical.com
[11:20] <hejux> ok. is there a way that i can get tmux 3.x on 18.04
[11:20] <KBar> hejux: watch your language please. Also contact the developers directly.
[11:20] <KBar> tmux developers, that is
[11:20] <hejux> contact who?
[11:21] <KBar> hejux: you can compile from the source yourself, sure.
[11:21] <Maik> hejux: as lotuspsychje already told you
[11:22] <hejux> so, let's forget snap... anyway i really don't like it but i had to use newer certbot, then i installed that with snap.
[11:22] <hejux> let's say, apt.
[11:22] <hejux> how do i get a newer version of X package with apt?
[11:23] <Maik> not
[11:23] <Maik>  ubuntu releases do not get any newer versions of software in their repo's
[11:23] <KBar> hejux: download .deb package and install it with `dpkg --install`
[11:24] <hejux> KBar: that is a good idea, then i may need to check the package's dependency?
[11:24] <Maik> i always say: want newer packages of software? go rolling release.
[11:24] <KBar> hejux: `dpkg` will complain if there are unmet dependencies but won't be able to resolve them.
[11:25] <hejux> yeah, that is expected.
[11:25] <hejux> do you guys use snap?
[11:26] <KBar> hejux: much easier if you just get source and compile it yourself. or you can `build-deps` and turn the source into a deb package
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> most users do hejux as some snaps are default on some ubuntu releases
[11:28] <Maik> FF, Telegram and Discord are the snap versions on my system
[11:28] <hejux> KBar: build-deps requires the source to be a debian format?
[11:28] <KBar> yes
[11:29] <hejux> ok, i'll go that route. googling `how to build package on debian' , thank you guys
[11:29] <hejux> *ubuntu
[11:29] <KBar> hejux: just use the Debian documentation
[11:30] <KBar> hejux: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/packaging-tutorial/packaging-tutorial.en.pdf
[11:32] <hejux> KBar: thank you **very much**
[11:33] <KBar> you're most welcome
[12:08] <Vooloo> how do I boot from USB recovery stick when I have a fauly HD? My BIOS tells me "SMART Failure Predicted on SATA6G". I wont let me into the boot menu even if the USB is prio 1 in BIOS. There must be a way to boot the PC with a faulty drive no? How else would you do data recovery?
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> Vooloo: if your HD is dying, best to take it out asap and try recovering whats possible from another working system
[12:15] <Tach> Hi, is it possible to install packages from a requirements file like https://raw.githubusercontent.com/lugodev/wireguard-api/main/requirements.txt ?
[12:19] <Vooloo> lotuspsychje, but how can I recover when I cant even boot an OS because of BIOS?
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> Tach: everything for your ubuntu release you can search with; apt-cache search keyword
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> Vooloo: a dying HD and not being able to enter a bios are 2 different things right
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> Vooloo: is your bios too old to boot an usb?
[12:21] <Vooloo> No I can enter the bios but it does not boot any OS on disk/USB because of the error message
[12:22] <Vooloo> I can only boot if I remove the physical cable from the HDD
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> Vooloo: if you want to recover data properly, you would need a proper live or physical running ubuntu system, the faulty HD and another medium to recover the lost data to
[12:25] <Tach> lotuspsychje that was not what I asked
[12:25] <Vooloo> yeah so, how do I boot into USB stick when my bios stops me from booting because of SMART error?
[12:25] <alkisg> Vooloo: get a usb case with 10 euros or something, to put the faulty disk in
[12:26] <Vooloo> how is that different?
[12:26] <alkisg> Because it won't be attached while you boot
[12:26] <Vooloo> how do I access the HDD after boot then?
[12:26] <alkisg> You attache the disk into the usb case into the usb slot after boot
[12:27] <alkisg> You put the disk in usb. Not in sata.
[12:27] <Vooloo> you mean there is a case that takes a normal SATA disk, and that case has a USB cable to access it?
[12:27] <alkisg> Exactly, most of them :)
[12:27] <Vooloo> can you name one?
[12:27] <alkisg> If it's 3.5", you'll need a power source
[12:27] <alkisg> Sure, moment
[12:28] <alkisg> Vooloo: https://www.amazon.com/3-5-hard-drive-enclosure/s?k=3.5+hard+drive+enclosure
[12:29] <Vooloo> thanks will look into this
[12:33] <sophy> ghgh
[12:43] <fooman2011> Hello. Could you please tell me what is the difference between "/sbin/agetty --autologin pi --noclear %I $TERM" and "/sbin/agetty --skip-login --noclear --noissue --login-options "-f pi" %I $TERM"
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[13:17] <barnaba[m]> is there like memtest86 for graphics cards?
[13:18] <ThinkT510> barnaba[m]: which driver are you using?
[13:18] <barnaba[m]> ThinkT510: nvidia-driver-470
[13:19] <barnaba[m]> * nvidia-driver-470 for GeForce GTX 970
[13:20] <ThinkT510> does the same happen if you try the nouveau driver?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:32] <Salzimt> Hi all. I dont know what I did but something messed up my key bindings. There are many keys stopped working like Esc, k, p and s is taking screenshots, Esc is behaving like Fn. And the laptop locks when I press 4. I am using   Ubuntu Gnome 20.04. Please help.
[15:33] <plantman> try rebooting?
[15:33] <Salzimt> I suspect that it is because I ran some commands in loop with the nice value negative 5. But keyboard mess up doesn't reset even after 2 restarts
[15:34] <plantman> unplug the keyboard for 30 seconds?
[15:34] <Salzimt> @plantman It is my laptop
[15:34] <plantman> take out the battery for 30 seconds?
[15:35] <Salzimt> How would that solve it?
[15:35] <plantman> its a pc, its proprietary, we dont know what's in it
[15:36] <plantman> trial and error is a big thing
[15:37] <Salzimt> plantman but taking out batteries is as good as  reboot, isn't it?
[15:37] <plantman> likely yes, just as good
[15:37] <plantman> i dont mean ALL the batteries, the clock battery isnt necessary
[15:38] <Salzimt> Hm, I am not sure if that would help
[15:39] <plantman> people in the current system arent sure of much
[15:40] <ioria> Salzimt, why don't you use the 'reset all' button in system Settings -> keyboad & shortcuts ?
[15:41] <Salzimt> ioria, I can try that. But when I looked at the shortcuts, they were pretty much the same
[15:42] <ioria> Salzimt, so you used some other method to set the shortcuts
[15:42] <Salzimt> By the way, negative 11 nice value of pulseaudio is normal?
[15:43] <Salzimt> ioria I have not set the shortcuts anytime in the recent future
[15:46] <ioria> Salzimt, install dconf-editor and browse to  org >gnome>desktop>wm>keybindings
[15:55] <sazawal> ioria, Trying
[15:56] <sazawal> I am Salzimt
[15:59] <octav1a> Is there any way to have some kind of universal word completion for typing (like with tab complete) similar to how android phone keyboards work?
[16:01] <anova> hello all, trying to get my kubuntu to share all my files from 2 harddisks, now I am able to see them on Windows 10, but I can not add new files or modify anything.. I did tell kubuntu to allow guest access and everything.. I really need to be able to write/read/modify anything onmy kubuntu server. Can someone help or explain how to do this? I just want to be able to have my shares seen on Windows as an extra harddisk with full access.
[16:01] <anova> Thanks in advance everyone
[16:01] <Maik> anova: please don't cross post
[16:01] <Maik> asking in one channel is enough
[16:02] <anova> Maik: I am sorry you feel that way. IRC seems really dead for some years and last time I asked something it took me 2 days for a reply. Thanks for your opinion though, very helpful ;-) You must be great at parties.
[16:04] <Maik> anova: it's in the guidelines, you would do great if you actually read and apply to them
[16:04] <anova> I will try not to and next time just ask here since there are more people online.
[16:05] <Maik> anova: most of the same people are here as are in the other channel
[16:05] <anova> "Each Ubuntu channel has distinct topic ranging from general Ubuntu chat, to specific Ubuntu technologies. Ask your question in the channel that is most relevant to your query. Don't post in multiple Ubuntu channels or in channels with unrelated topics. To check a channels topic, type "/topic" into your IRC client. "
[16:05] <jhutchins> Maik: Which other channel.
[16:05] <anova> I see the rule now, thank you.
[16:05] <anova> jhutchins: kubuntu
[16:05] <Maik> jhutchins: #kubuntu
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> are you using samba anova ?
[16:06] <anova> I did not mean to disobey any rules. Just really annoyed with this basic issue :(
[16:06] <ioria> anova, it's not clear how you want to share the data; is the drive formatted and mounted ? if yes, where ? /mnt or /media  ? which is the file system ? have you tried to chown -R it ?
[16:07] <octav1a> Sometimes it's hard to choose because for a question like this one might not know if the sharing / system permissions are more of a general ubuntu feature, or something that KDE/plasma may have more interaction with
[16:07] <anova> lotuspsychje: Yes, I also added both HDD shares in Windows. they are accessible but when I try to add a new folder from Windows by SMB, it says: you need permission to perform this action
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> !samba | anova maybe this can help aswell
[16:11] <anova> This is my samba status on Kubuntu: https://snipboard.io/3zWvgV.jpg
[16:13] <anova> And this is what I see from Windows 10: https://snipboard.io/LxfkQA.jpg
[16:14] <anova> Now when I try to create a new folder, it shows me this message on Windows: https://snipboard.io/lv6rbU.jpg
[16:14] <Salzimt_> @ ioria How do I reset keybindings in dconf-editor?
[16:15] <jhutchins> anova: Need to look at the permissions/ownership for those shares.  These are not the same as the Linux file system permissions.
[16:15] <jhutchins> anova: You might try running the "testparm" command in a console, see how it describes your system.
[16:18] <anova> jhutchins: This is the output: https://pastebin.com/nf3b2zWX
[16:20] <anova> I am able to, for example, open a .mkv file from the SMB share on Windows, but I can not delete the video, or anything else. As if I am read-only (Sorry if I am not understandable)
[16:24] <anova> I did look at the links you sent, is there a GUI way to make sure I have full access from Windows 10 over SMB to those shares? like the sharing function in Windows? I would like to have full access over the network
[17:07] <jhutchins> I don't think anybody here right now is familiar with KDE's GUI kludge for managing samba.  It doesn't look like they've done a very complete job.
[17:08] <jhutchins> anova: You are correct that the files are effectively read-only.  You might try examining the permissions of a file from the share.
[17:09] <jhutchins> anova: Your testparm paste doesn't show any defined shares.
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[17:50] <mago> Hi
[17:50] <mago> Got trouble with an external dvd player through usb
[17:51] <mago> HOw do I get to the dvd contents in ubuntu?
[17:52] <mago> The player doenst seem recognized at all
[17:52] <mago> Not showing in media or lshw
[18:14] <anova> jhutchins: What would you recommend I do? Because if I can´t fix this I think I am forced to go back to windows 10 as a server again.. but I really do not want to since I like the fact kubuntu is lightweight
[18:15] <anova> Too bad sharing files is so complicated on Linux.. more reason not to recommend it to friends I'm afraid.
[18:17] <anova> Maybe I need to rephrase my question here;
[18:18] <anova> How does one share files like a samba share from Windows to Windows, with full access? (I have done this even from Windows 10 home) I need full access as if the drive is shared between a Kubuntu and Windows 10 PC
[18:20] <anova> Is this an only an option on Ubuntu? or is this not a Kubuntu fault? afaik they should basically function the same
[18:20] <orange1> right click a folder then go to properties
[18:21] <orange1> then go to local network share
[18:23] <anova> orange1: I did right click the HDD mount, it shows this now: https://snipboard.io/d9g6Vw.jpg
[18:23] <anova> That should mean I would have full access to the shares, right??
[18:24] <orange1> i never done it before, but it would seem so. also i dont look at links
[18:24] <orange1> just tinker with it see if you can get it
[18:25] <orange1> you can share folders and stuff
[18:25] <orange1> you can also share folders in ubuntu between ubuntu and windows and windows and ubuntu i did it a long time ago
[18:26] <anova> orange1: I did that already, but I went to IRC because I could not fix it. the screenshot shows that I share this folder with other computers on the local network. I have Allow guest on, and "Everyone" and "anova" both have full access.. not sure what is going wrong then
[18:27] <anova> That's all the tinkering I can think about.
[18:27] <orange1> a hmm, i can try it between my windows 11 and ubuntu i guess
[18:27] <DarinMiller> anova, what version of Kubuntu?
[18:34] <anova> DarinMiller: Kubuntu 21.10
[18:45] <oerheks> mago did you install the dvd packages? https://itsfoss.com/play-dvd-ubuntu-1310/
[18:50] <kapil> upgrade ubuntu 20.04 to 21.10?
[18:51] <kapil> ^how to
[18:53] <rfm> kapil, must upgrade 20.04 -> 20.10 -> 21.04 -> 21.10.  Upgrades only from one release to the next, or from one LTS release to the next LTS release.
[18:54] <oerheks> select 'any new version' in update-settings, and have fun
[18:54] <kapil> thanks
[19:00] <orange1> anova, im not on kubuntu. i tried to get it going on regular ubuntu but had problems too. sorry
[19:03] <anova> orange1: Thanks for trying anyways
[19:03] <orange1> it really is kinda complicated
[19:18] <Guest4433> relay
[19:21] <gry> hi
[19:40] <Guest52> cheers
[19:41] <Guest52> I have a piece of software that comes with keyboard shortcuts such as "ctrl + /" for something ... the problem is that I have a Danish keyboard, not a US one, so that one is not really good ... how do I change it so that "ctrl + /" becomes for instance "ctrl + shift + x"?
[19:42] <oerheks> what 'piecve of software' exactly ?
[19:43] <oerheks> and on what ubuntu version, ofcourse
[19:43] <Slartibart> 'sudo dmesg | grep iwl' gives me 'Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-XX.ucode failed with error -2' with XX between 65-67. 'uname -r': 5.13.0-22-generic. 'ls /usr/lib/firmware/ | grep iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0': iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-64.ucode. So my file is old, I get that much. But how to update to a newer version?
[19:45] <oerheks> Slartibart, install backport-iwlwifi-dkms and reboot
[19:47] <Slartibart> oerheks: Thanks, but 'apt search' says that I already have it(old version?): backport-iwlwifi-dkms/impish,impish,now 9340-0ubuntu4 all. Should I still reinstall and reboot?
[19:47] <oerheks> if you already have it, you should be good
[19:48] <Slartibart> But still my firmware file seems to be old, right :-[?
[19:48] <Guest52> oerheks, something I run in a browser ... and Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS
[19:50] <oerheks> Slartibart, no, backports should build the latest available
[19:51] <oerheks> "something in a browser'.. not helpfull answer. so check your browser for shortkeys?
[19:53] <Guest52> oerheks, I'd like to do it system-wide
[19:56] <oerheks> i find no ctrl + /, so it must be your "something in your browser" doing this. cannot help you there without proper info, good luck!
[19:57] <Guest52> "ctrl + /" is currently bound to nothing, I believe
[19:58] <tomreyn> oerheks: are you sure that backport-iwlwifi-dkms builds firmware files? https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/all/backport-iwlwifi-dkms/filelist only seems to show the module/driver source.
[19:58] <oerheks> tomreyn, yes, that is what it should do?
[19:59] <tomreyn> it says "iwlwifi driver backport in DKMS format"
[19:59] <tomreyn> so updated driver / module, but not firmware, IMO
[19:59] <jhutchins> Are we sure dkms is installed?
[20:00] <Slartibart> I reinstalled backport-iwlwifi-dkms now and it started building files.
[20:00] <jhutchins> ... although firmware should not require a build.
[20:00] <tomreyn> Slartibart: did it create newer files in /lib/firmware ?
[20:00] <Slartibart> ..still "version number 64" though, logs still seem to be looking for 65-67
[20:01] <tomreyn> i think these messages can be a redherring. unless something is malfunctioning, it may not actually need newer firmware, it just looks for it and doesn't find it
[20:02] <Slartibart> tomreyn: I had  iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-64.ucode since before, and still had it afterwards(not a newer version), so I don't see any newer files there, no
[20:03] <tomreyn> okay, i would have been surprised otherwise
[20:04] <tomreyn> "iwlwifi-so-a0-hr-b0-64.ucode" is the latest available at https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/ also.
[20:04] <tomreyn> so unless anything doesn't work, just live long and prosper
[20:06] <Slartibart> But why is something looking for a later version then?? I do have wifi but the cable port isn't regocnized. Works without problems in Windows so I know it's there.
[20:07] <tomreyn> cable port?
[20:08] <Slartibart> tomreyn: Ethernet port, wired network
[20:08] <tomreyn> but this driver is fore wireless, and wireless only, how does it relate to that
[20:09] <tomreyn> you seem to have a question about your ethernet connection? if so, please ask your actual qusestion.
[20:10] <Slartibart> tomreyn: Ok, that's a good point. I assumed both wifi and ethernet used the same controller in my case. But it's totally possible that I was wrong. running lspci only gives me one Network controller though.
[20:11] <tomreyn> so this lists only one?    lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:11] <tomreyn> i'm not aware of any vendor combining wireless and ethernet devices or drivers.
[20:12] <tomreyn> *chipset vendor
[20:12] <Slartibart> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/f7ysf Ok, no, that command used a lot more switches and flags than mine ;).
[20:13] <Slartibart> I guess I should be looking at igc?
[20:13] <tomreyn> yes
[20:15] <tomreyn> so let's see what you mean by [ethernet] "cable port isn't recognized". does this mean that you don't get a link when you connect an ethernet cable?
[20:18] <tomreyn> Slartibart: to answer the earlier question about "why is [the wireless driver/kernel module] looking for a later version [of the wireless firmware] then": that's somewhat common, to enable the firmware to be shipped later - should it be needed, without having to update the driver. also sometimes firmware is only shipped for specific use cases / scenarios, but not to the general public, who don't actually need it. or it was shipped at some point,
[20:18] <tomreyn> but causing more problems than doing good, and later removed (not the case here).
[20:20] <tomreyn> so usually such messages should just be ignored if the very device / chipset (intel wireless) works fine.
[20:28] <tomreyn> Guest52: if you're on X11, there's xmodmap, but this won't work with (x)wayland. there is a generic way of doing it, system-wide, though: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/k3h9qv/remapping_keys_using_hwdb_files/
[20:28] <Guest52> hi tomreyn, thank you:)  ... I will take a look right now
[20:30] <tomreyn> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/xmodmap has an overview on xmodmap (targeted at Arch Linux, but it should also work for Ubuntu, as long as you're still on X11)
[20:36] <Thomas25> I don't see how it could happen but it really feels like my default Ubuntu 20.04 installation has serious kernel CPU scheduling problems.
[20:36] <Thomas25> Audio keeps crackling with usb audio and mobo audio device.
[20:53] <Guest52> tomreyn, thanks ... I have used xmodmap before
[21:15] <artaud> Hi, folks
[21:15] <artaud> How can I install the 2.4.9 version of openvpn in ubuntu 20.04.3?
[21:16] <tomreyn> !info openvpn focal
[21:17] <tomreyn> artaud: unless it's provided by a third party or this version happens to be available as a snap, your options will be limited to building it yourself.
[21:17] <tomreyn> what's the missing feature you're looking for?
[21:17] <artaud> I need to connect to a vpn server who accepts only this version
[21:17] <artaud> I tried to find some reps, no success
[21:18] <artaud> when i tried to build, i had this: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[21:19] <tomreyn> how does the remote server indicate that it will only accept this very client version then?
[21:20] <artaud> i have no idea.. it's from work and i just a client
[21:20] <tomreyn> so it's more like someone told you "you need openvpn version 2.4.9 to connect to it"?
[21:21] <artaud> i tried in others versions and connection is refused
[21:22] <tomreyn> and you also tried using version 2.4.9 somehow (how?) and it was not refused there?
[21:24] <tomreyn> 2.4.9 only has minor changes, so i'm surprised
[21:26] <artaud> @tomreynn 2.4.9 not refused
[21:37] <wiileewaller> hello everyone, anyone familiar with alsa project (soundcard driver), im pretty new with building stuff from sourcecode, and i need to know if i need to download the alsa driver package or not, on the website if i understood the explanation well, it seems that the alsa driver is already part of the linux kernel, am i right or wrong?
[21:37] <wiileewaller> thanks = )
[21:38] <wiileewaller> https://www.alsa-project.org/
[21:38] <Thomas25> dear god, i passed through my nvidia card to win11 guest and it works great. but nvidia driver on host cannot access to the device obviously and it tries to insert itself into kernel. i noticed it in dmesg. and that process is so blocking that it disrupted evreything on host and guest
[21:38] <oerheks> !info alsa-source
[21:38] <oerheks> yes, alsa is in our repos
[21:39] <tomreyn> Thomas25: there does not seem to be someone named "god" here. also, i think they have a much more convoluted approach for taking support requests than irc.
[21:40] <wiileewaller> ok so do you mean that when you install  linux ubuntu, there is already tools that alsa need in the kernel?
[21:41] <oerheks> wiileewaller, alsa will be installed automaticly, yes
[21:41] <wiileewaller> sorry for my very newbish question, and sorry if my approach is wrong when i ask my question
[21:41] <wiileewaller> im not familiar with asking question on irc too
[21:42] <oerheks> go and try install ubuntu, when you do have sound issues, please come back
[21:43] <wiileewaller> i ve already ubuntu installed, now im trying to make my asus u7 external soundcard work
[21:44] <wiileewaller> it is actually working but i have only my 2 front speakers working, and im trying to make a 5.1 instead
[21:44] <wiileewaller> 5.1 surround*
[21:44] <wiileewaller> thanks for your answer  = )
[21:45] <oerheks> oke, go into systemsettings > sound and select your soundcard from the dropdown menu, there should be an analog option for multiple channels 5.1/7.1
[21:47] <wiileewaller> nope i can select my sound card but i dont have a analog option
[21:47] <wiileewaller> just the balance cursor under
[21:48] <wiileewaller> but i still havent install the library, tools etc
[21:48] <wiileewaller> firmware ...
[21:49] <wiileewaller> im following this tutorial https://www.alsa-project.org/wiki/Matrix:Module-usb-audio
[21:49] <wiileewaller> from this conversation
[21:49] <wiileewaller> https://askubuntu.com/questions/401591/is-asus-xonar-u7-supported
[21:52] <oerheks> old post, yes, it is supported.
[21:52] <tomreyn> wiileewaller: the second post there discusses how to make "analogic multichannel playback fully work on lubuntu" (at least back in 2014). have you given this a try, yet? rebuilding the kernel module now ad every time the kernel updates is certainly a good bit more effort than that.
[21:54] <tomreyn> (the second step listed is specific to the Lubuntu flavour of Ubuntu, you'd not need to do this or do it differently)
[21:55] <EriC^^> ''
[21:56] <wiileewaller> so you recommend me to build the kernel first?
[21:57] <wiileewaller> is it that step?
[21:57] <tomreyn> wiileewaller: i'd try to get along without building the kernel or module at all. and these (very old, though) posts suggest you can.
[21:57] <wiileewaller> Now insert the modules into the kernel:
[21:57] <wiileewaller>   modprobe snd-usb-audio ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-mixer-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss
[21:58] <wiileewaller> how im i supposed to  get along without building the kernel or module?
[21:59] <wiileewaller> is there a other way to make my soundcard works like 5.1?
[21:59] <tomreyn> did you read the post on askubuntu which you pointed us to?
[21:59] <puff> Hm, firefox crashed, I restarted and restored session, then I moved a bunch of windows around the workspaces... and now alt-tab doesn't work right, it takes me to windows in other workspaces.
[22:00] <wiileewaller> mmmmh yea
[22:00] <wiileewaller> did i miss smth?
[22:02] <orange1> you said you have 2.0 working with it
[22:02] <wiileewaller> yes
[22:02] <tomreyn> wiileewaller: i don't see it saying that you should rebuild alsa or the kernel (at leats not in the first few posts). and even if it does somewhere then this is sooo old that i wouldn't rely on that still being the case. instead, it discusses approaches you can try without building software, and i'm suggesting tou to try those first. i.e. in the first answer
[22:02] <orange1> sudo apt install pavucontrol
[22:02] <wiileewaller> there is not other option
[22:02] <orange1> go to last tab and select 5.1 might be in there
[22:03] <orange1> if it is you can use vlc and change the audio out to 5.1 when playing 5.1 stuff
[22:07] <wiileewaller> ok tomreyn
[22:07] <wiileewaller> orange on the last tab do you choose 5.1 on the built in audio?
[22:07] <wiileewaller> or on the asus u7 soundcard?
[22:08] <orange1> the soundcard i would say
[22:08] <wiileewaller> there is stereo only
[22:08] <wiileewaller> available
[22:08] <orange1> ah ok
[22:12] <orange1> use the hdmi for surround maybe then just hook the optical cable from the tv to the reciever
[22:12] <Slartibart> tomreyn: Sorry for my late reply. Thanks or the eexplanation. Also, you were right about the messages, further down in the log there was a "loaded this version ok" message.
[22:12] <sazawal> Anybody expert in xmodmap and xev? My keyboard bindings are messed up. I tried reading the input with xev for the key s, and I get this output https://bpa.st/ZTUA . How do I fix it with xmodmap?
[22:13] <tomreyn> Slartibart: you're welcome. any luck withthe ethernet?
[22:14] <wiileewaller> i dont have a spdif
[22:14] <wiileewaller> i have a kinda old 5.1 with 3 stereo jack front / center bass / rear
[22:15] <Slartibart> tomreyn: Working on it :), had to leave the computer for a few hours for family and friends. I hope to get it up and running tonight, that would be really nice, the wifi isn't very stable down here in the basement.
[22:16] <Gallomimia> boo wifi
[22:16] <Gallomimia> run yous a cat5e
[22:18] <Slartibart> Nnf.. Cat5e? ;)
[22:21] <jhutchins> I'm running GB on plain old cat5.
[22:22] <Slartibart> jhutchins: You poor thing.. No, just kidding ;)
[22:25] <Slartibart> To clarify: I've used cat5 as well, but now I've bought a new computer. It doesn't play nice just yet, ethernet and some other things aren't recognized right now. ..and because of that(and some other things like the difference between high and low speeds when transferring large files) one would - perhaps, just to be safer - not want cat5 in a situation like I am in now. I hope that came out right.
[22:27] <Jeremy31> Slartibart: What ethernet?  Post URL from terminal for>  lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:29] <Slartibart> Jeremy31: https://termbin.com/u45c Not wifi but the lower one
[22:31] <Jeremy31> Slartibart: not sure as it shows a driver is loaded for ethernet
[22:32] <Slartibart> Jeremy31: It does. But still, if I run ifconfig there's no ethernet port. If I insert a cable in the port the connection isn't recognized..
[22:34] <Jeremy31> I figured it might have been a newer Realtek ethernet that needs a different driver
[22:38] <Slartibart> Jeremy31: Do you know where I can read about that?
[22:38] <Jeremy31> Slartibart: You would be best served by reading about your Intel Corporation Ethernet Controller I225-V [8086:15f3] (rev 03) device
[22:44] <Slartibart> *groan* Texts suggest a firmware update. Digging deeper..