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[itchyjunk]Hello, I am on ubuntu 18.04. On creation, I used a username X. Like /home/X. I was trying to change this so that it's Y everywhere. I can't seem to figure it out. Any ideas?01:11
[itchyjunk]I want the computer to replace that X with Y everywhere relevant, hopefull what I want is clear.01:12
jhutchinsThere are ways to do this.  You want me to google "linux rename user" for ya?01:12
jhutchins[itchyjunk]: The name associated with file/directory ownership is in a single location (/etc/passwd), the name of the folder is in the filesystem.  There's a utility to do the whole thing in one or two steps.01:14
jhutchins[itchyjunk]: It's probably best to use the utility rather than hacking at it and potentially leaving loose ends.01:17
cappicard_good evening.  i just upgraded to 21.10. but my notebook (HP 15-dy2037nr) is locking up way too often.  i never had this problem with previous versions of ubuntu. Plus, is there a way to get secure boot grub to boot other isos (freedos or memtest86+)?03:10
vtalkHi04:30
vtalkDoes anyone know if screen-sharing works using linux in the browser version of the videoconferencing tool "bluejeans"?04:31
vtalkI tried the testchannel on https://bluejeans.com/11104:31
vtalkbut after clicking "share screen" and choosing a window to share, nothing really happens (or does it? Maybe, it just doesn't show a copy of my shared-window in the browser).04:32
user_francesco di gennaro07:48
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abcdefghi08:10
abcdefgis someone alive08:10
ducasse!ask08:11
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hejuxwhy ubuntu sucks so hard? i mean, upgraded to 20.04 lts. it has a tmux 3.0a, but it does not have a -X option for tmux new-session. who the hell modified the upstring source code and removed the -X option ?08:49
hejuxtmux changelogs: Add new-session -X and attach-session -x to send SIGHUP to parent when08:51
hejux  detaching (like detach-client -P)y08:51
hejuxCHANGES FROM 2.9 TO 3.008:51
hejuxapt info tmux: Version: 3.0a-2ubuntu0.3 , Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>08:53
hejuxi'll never use ubuntu again. sucks so hard.08:55
hejuxi'm gonna wipe the disk, and install debian instead08:55
* alkisg wonders if people think that this is some kind of punishment to the other ubuntu users here...08:59
ducassesend canonical an email, you'll get your money back08:59
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weedmicI can't remember exactly what to type in to find the PSK code for a wifi router.  I typed @ konsole "wpa_passphrase routername routerpassword | sudo tee temp.conf" - but got "bash: !el1: event not found" - i need the PSK for a script09:28
KBarducasse: but who's gonna pay for my mental damage?!! Mr. Shuttleworth???09:32
weedmicthat was the wrong command entirely - i need a wpa_supplicant to "view" the psk09:41
weedmicdoes anyone know a command to view the psk2 key from the router one is connected to?09:48
KBarhejux: hate to reveal this to you, but actually the Debian `tmux` also doesn't have the -X flag. Hahaha09:50
KBarhejux: grab the source from here and compile yourself: https://github.com/tmux/tmux/releases/download/3.2a/tmux-3.2a.tar.gz09:51
shadowbird2468my fathers computer keeps dropping nvidia audio profile soon as audio input and output are idling. so I need to keep some kind of sound on all the time. also keeping pavucontrol-qt keeps the profile on. so I was wondering if I could make somekinda service running in the background to keep audio active. any ideas?09:56
shadowbird2468this far I have kept pavucntrol-qt minimized to keep audios working09:57
oerheksweedmic, if there is such command, it is a hack09:57
oerheksalso, not an ubuntu issue, try #networking ?09:57
KBarshadowbird2468: is that Kubuntu? What version?09:58
shadowbird2468ubuntu 20.0409:58
KBarshadowbird2468: are you sure? What's the output of `sudo cat /var/log/installer/media-info`?09:59
shadowbird2468its actually my fathers computer, not able to ssh in atm10:00
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oerheksmaybe this page is a help; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure10:02
shadowbird2468its a nvidia sound device. other ppl have had similar problems with it aswell, but havent found any fix to the problem. at this pont I'd be happy just to make some get around the issue fix10:03
KBarshadowbird2468: pavucontrol-qt is a Qt port of pavucontrol. Official Ubuntu flavors that run in Qt are Kubuntu and Lubuntu.10:03
KBarIf it's not running in those environments, I'd suggest replacing it with `pavucontrol`.10:04
shadowbird2468yea, I'd use pulsemixer, but it doesnt keep nvidias audio profile from dropping10:04
KBarIt being your father's computer.10:04
shadowbird2468I'll try pavucontrol instead, maybe it'll work10:05
shadowbird2468I think pavucontrol-qt is somehow keeping audio busy (not sure how exacly) but it seems to help10:06
FossilAny pointers here? Trying to live resize a root partition of a VMware VM with LVM. https://kopy.io/aDiNa#r2zUblpuGoiuEI. I managed to grow sda to 40G but sda5 is still listed as 19,5G and I think therefore pvresize doesnt do anything.10:06
shadowbird2468 https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2470053 here is the threat I've made10:07
shadowbird2468so on bootup the correct profile seems to be active, but since there is no audio activity during hte bootup, it drops the profile after few seconds for some wierd reason. by the time hte system is up I need to select the correct profile again Nvidia instead on dummy sound10:10
oerhekskillall pulseaudio; pulseaudio -k  ; rm -r ~/.config/pulse/* ; rm -r ~/.pulse*  ### this line could fix that10:10
oerheks*permanently10:11
weedmicThis IS the command - but my password need some / characters10:13
shadowbird2468thx, I'll try that out. I actually tried it once already, but I had ubuntu 21.04 in use back then, so lets see if anything seems difrent now10:13
shadowbird2468I'm planing to make a startup script that get the audio up and keeps it on10:18
shadowbird2468to open a program already minimized, does it work like this? pavucontrol-qt --minimized10:18
shadowbird2468so maybe on every boot I could someway reload pulseaudio and then popup pavu already minimized. I know its not perfect, but would make it easier for now, so there is no need to do anything manually on every boot10:20
dreamonis it possible to tranfer file over a existing ssh connection? I know of scp but this makes a new connection. I want to transfer during a existing connection..10:21
DarkTrickHow can I prevent apt from using a mirror?10:21
i-garrisonshadowbird2468: try disabling module-suspend-on-idle in default.pa10:22
DarkTrick(It tries to use a mirror, which apparently does not exist anymore)10:22
shadowbird2468I will check that! thx10:22
shadowbird2468the sound output makes horrible sound when its idle, so there is something wrong, more then a setting, but that would make it easier to boot while having the profile still on10:24
shadowbird2468kinda like cracling sound which is quite loud10:25
shadowbird2468when there is sound playing or pavu on the cracling sound disapears10:26
oerheksDarkTrick,  remove it from your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder10:27
DarkTrickoerheks, the mirror is not listed there10:29
oerheksDarkTrick,  weird, it should not populate the original sources.list.10:30
DarkTrickoerheks, it's also not in sources.list10:31
oerheksDarkTrick, then is it not good software.10:31
oerhekspastebin the output of apt update?10:31
DarkTrickperhaps I should go over to #debian...10:31
oerheksor, the mirror is down, India does that in holliday time10:31
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oerheksyes, if you use debian, no need to ask here10:32
rvsjoenanyone know why dockerd only listens to tcp6 when initiating a swarm node ?10:33
rvsjoenand how ot make it listen to tcp10:33
hejuxKbar: debian what?10:45
KaitoDaumoto/j endeavouros10:47
DarkTrickHm... debian needs a login :/10:51
oerheksNo, you need to be registered with libera10:51
oerheksubuntu is low level entry10:52
DarkTrickoerheks, basically what I said :)10:52
oerheks!register10:52
ubottuFor information on registering your IRC nick, see https://libera.chat/guides/registration - For any further help, ask in #libera10:52
DarkTricktakes another 30 minutes or so I guess10:52
oerheksdail-up 33k6?10:52
DarkTrickoerheks, much text, link, link, link, aw didnt work, try again, read again, check mail, check spam, blabla10:53
EriC^^2mins tops10:54
SudoBashI need some help compiling a driver module against a newly installed kernel?11:01
SudoBashthe driver compiles, but I get a vermagic:       4.15.0-29-generic when that kernel isn't even installed anymore11:02
SudoBashI've ready that I may need linux-headers-generic 4.15.0-16211:02
SudoBashbut I can only find linux-headers-generic 4.15.0-16311:03
SudoBashthere should be a inux-headers-generic 4.15.0-162.170 somewhere, but I can only find inux-headers-generic 4.15.0-162.15111:03
SudoBashI'm trying to compile against 4.15.0-162-generic11:05
SudoBashI have image and headers installed: linux-headers-4.15.0-162-generic_4.15.0-162.170_amd6411:06
oerheksweird old kernel, https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/linux-headers-generic11:07
oerheks4.15.0.163.152 is current, for bionic that is11:07
oerheksremove all unused old kernels first?11:07
oerhekssudo dpkg ––list | egrep –i ––color ‘linux-image|linux-headers’ # would show them all11:08
oerhekshttps://phoenixnap.com/kb/ubuntu-remove-old-kernels11:09
SudoBashone sec I'll check that11:10
SudoBashI can't run 163, I hang and initial initramfs11:10
SudoBashI found 162-generic works tho11:10
SudoBash?11:10
SudoBashhttps://pastebin.com/T8hSzSqm11:10
SudoBashJeremy31 https://pastebin.com/T8hSzSqm11:10
SudoBashdpkg: error: need an action option11:12
SudoBashahh nvm11:12
Jeremy31What module are you trying to build?11:12
oerheksmake sure you boot in the official latest kernel ..11:13
oerheks170 is not in the list11:13
SudoBashNetgear A6120 github module11:13
SudoBashit runs on 4.15.0-29 fine11:14
SudoBash163 hangs11:14
SudoBashI'm able to run 4.15.0-16211:14
Jeremy31SudoBash: post URL for>  lsusb | nc termbin.com 999911:14
SudoBashhttps://github.com/kaduke/Netgear-A6210/tree/port-to-4.1511:15
SudoBashBus 001 Device 004: ID 0846:9053 NetGear, Inc.11:16
SudoBashwhy would you need to netcat in?11:17
Jeremy31SudoBash: That just auto pastes the results to termbin.com11:17
SudoBashthing is I have this installed with DKMS but I installed the kernel manually, but it supposedly triggered a dkms build11:18
Jeremy31SudoBash: That device works in the 5.4 kernel series, any reason you can't use it?11:18
SudoBashI've never seen it working, I reinstalled 18.04.1 just for this PoS11:18
SudoBashit was the worst $50 I've ever spent at walmart11:18
SudoBashliterally the only wireless usb adapter they had in stock11:19
Jeremy31SudoBash: I helped fix that device in the 5.4 kernels a year ago11:19
SudoBashbroken11:19
SudoBashit even crashes in windows if you have a steady 25MB down11:19
SudoBashabout 3 minutes in, crash... with Unreal 5 Beta download in windows11:20
SudoBashI originally tried on latest 5.4 under Ubuntu 20.0411:20
SudoBash-> Nope11:20
SudoBashI downgraded to 18.04 specifically because of that and can only get it working on 4.15.0-2911:21
Jeremy31Strange11:21
SudoBashdevice is flaky in windows and linux :-/11:21
Jeremy31It might need to be unplugged if there is any difference in the Windows and Linux firmware.  I don't have Windows installed11:22
SudoBashmaybe it's included in linux-modules-extra-version11:22
DarkTrickEriC^^, FYI: as expected: registration does not work11:23
SudoBashI tried to find it with the Additional Drivers GUI utility, it never shows anything11:23
oerheksDarkTrick, join #libera for that11:24
Jeremy31SudoBash: the drivers utility only works if the driver is in the Ubuntu repos11:24
DarkTrickand here comes the 30 mins I was talking11:24
SudoBashyou meant make -C /lib/modules/4.15.0-162-generic/build M=$(pwd) modules instead of PWD right?11:26
SudoBashor capital PWD like you had?11:26
Jeremy31If the current kernel is 162 you could try> make clean && make -C /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build M=$(PWD) modules11:27
SudoBashPWD is unknown11:28
SudoBashunknown command;11:28
SudoBashpwd produces something, but see here for it: https://pastebin.com/QcqQfXVF11:28
Jeremy31The $(PWD) should be the current working directory11:28
SudoBashyes pwd works for that11:29
SudoBashit's case sensitive11:29
SudoBashhere is the error on that: https://pastebin.com/QcqQfXVF11:29
SudoBash /home/appxprt/Netgear-A6210/Makefile:30: /usr/src/linux-headers-4.15.0-162-generic/os/linux/config.mk: No such file or directory11:29
SudoBashthat's because it's missing: linux-headers-generic right?11:30
SudoBashlolol but you can't install that for this version11:30
SudoBashthat's pretty ridiculous11:30
SudoBashUploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/e350d9e7b039524ac22c016bdacf8ec1/pasted.txt11:31
SudoBashSee this reference referencing 4.15.0-162.170 which is NO WHERE TO BE FOUND:11:31
SudoBashhttps://www.google.com/search?q=install+specific+linux-headers-generic+4.15.0-16211:32
Jeremy31http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-4.15.0-162-generic_4.15.0-162.170_amd64.deb11:32
SudoBashthat's linux-headers not the linux-headers-generic package, which is extremely confusing by the way11:33
SudoBashcheck versions on linux-header-generic11:33
Jeremy31The only file named config.mk on this laptop happens to be in /home/jeremy/Netgear-A6210/os/linux/config.mk11:34
SudoBashPackage: linux-headers-generic11:35
SudoBashArchitecture: amd6411:35
SudoBashVersion: 4.15.0.163.15211:35
SudoBashthere should be a version for 4.15.0.162.151?11:35
SudoBashUnpacking linux-headers-4.15.0-162-generic (4.15.0-162.170) over (4.15.0-162.170) ...11:37
SudoBashI already have that installed that you referenced11:37
Jeremy31I have to go, try https://github.com/Netgear-A6210-linux-driver/Netgear-A6210 as that has been updated more recently11:37
SudoBashwhich again, linux-headers-(uname -a) is different than linux-headers-generic11:37
Jeremy31uname -r11:38
SudoBashok yea, but linux-headers-generic gives the dev tools to build kcompile stuff or something like that11:38
SudoBashjanky that it's missing for 16211:38
SudoBashjanks that 163 is hanging11:39
SudoBashI'll try your new version which is what I tried on Ubuntu 20.04 5.411:39
SudoBashand initially on 18.04.1 4.15.0-2911:40
SudoBashlet me try that real quick one sec11:40
SudoBashrunning make11:41
ogra_SudoBash, 18.04.1 ? thats super outdated ... any reason to not use 18.04.6 (which should come with a 5.4 kernel already)11:41
SudoBashlol yea you're late to the conversation11:42
SudoBashI've had to jump through hoops to make a new PoS netgear adapter work11:42
ogra_yes, i saw the backlog11:42
SudoBashmodprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'mt7662u_sta': Exec format error11:43
SudoBashJeremy31 with your "new" github source, same thing.. install -m 644 -c mt7662u_sta.ko /lib/modules/4.15.0-162-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/11:43
ogra_exec format error looks more like you compiled for the wrong architecture11:43
SudoBashlol yea11:43
ogra_are you cross building ?11:44
SudoBashHey! at least the vermagic is updated!11:44
SudoBashvermagic:       4.15.0-162-generic SMP mod_unload modversions11:44
SudoBashno I'm not cross building, I'm building for current kernel11:44
SudoBashuname -r: 4.15.0-162-generic11:45
SudoBashvermagic:       4.15.0-162-generic SMP mod_unload modversions11:45
ogra_well, then you shoudl not get an exect format error ... that indicates either the wrong toolchain or wrong target architecture11:45
SudoBashsudo modprobe mt7662u_sta11:45
SudoBashmodprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'mt7662u_sta': Exec format error11:45
SudoBashyes11:45
SudoBashI've established that actually11:45
SudoBashso what are those build tools I'm missing?11:46
SudoBashor headers?11:46
SudoBashno11:46
ogra_wrong headers wouldnt get you an exec format error ...11:46
SudoBasheverything is installed except: linux-headers-generic11:46
ogra_(just a vermagic one)11:46
SudoBashwhich I can't install for this kernel apparently11:47
SudoBashand the kernel I can install that for hangs at initramfs11:47
ogra_how exactly11:47
SudoBashhow to which one?11:47
SudoBashthe hang?11:47
ogra_hw doe it hang ? where does it stop11:47
ogra_*does11:47
ogra_*how11:48
SudoBashsaying loading initial initramfs11:48
SudoBash162 boots 163 hangs11:48
SudoBash4.15.0-16211:48
ogra_no further output from there on on the consle ?11:48
SudoBashhard freeze, no ctrl alt f-nothing11:49
SudoBashnothing11:49
SudoBashhave to reset11:49
SudoBashhard reset11:49
SudoBashI know more than your average linux user btw11:49
ogra_did you try to regenerate it manually using update-initramfs ?11:50
SudoBashyeap11:51
SudoBashI have 163 installed now too actually if you want me to retry11:51
SudoBashbut I'll have to reboot obviously11:51
SudoBashoh and I probably need to install modules-extra11:51
ogra_you deinitely should, yeah11:51
ogra_*definitely11:51
* ogra_ glares at his fingers ... 11:52
SudoBashoh great apt is broken now11:52
SudoBashit's making me run apt --fix-broken install11:52
ogra_looks like your tinkering messed up some dependencies then11:53
ogra_do what it suggests11:53
SudoBashsudo update-initramfs -k all -c11:54
SudoBashcreating new11:54
SudoBashok I think that should boot, brb11:58
SudoBashI'm staring at it frozen again, using a different machine to chat:12:00
SudoBashLoading Linux 4.15.0-163-generic12:00
SudoBashLoading Initial ramdisk ...12:00
SudoBash_12:00
SudoBashafter what you said on updating initramdisk12:01
SudoBashbeen sitting for 2 minutes I guess?12:01
SudoBashshould have gotten past that, so I'm going to reset and go back into 16212:01
ogra_i'd leave it sitting until you get an actual error12:02
SudoBashit's supposed to get past that very quickly12:02
ogra_there are various bits in the initrd that use 2min timeouts12:02
SudoBashIt's loading the 163 recovery12:02
SudoBashor I am rather12:02
SudoBashgave up on waiting for root file system device12:03
SudoBashdrop to initramf BusyBox shell12:03
ogra_okay12:03
SudoBashit suggests check rootdelay and missing modules, etc12:04
ogra_so your disk controller driver or some other bit from the HDD stack is missing12:04
SudoBashI installed modules and modules-extra for 16312:04
SudoBashbut it boots 162?12:04
SudoBashyea okay12:04
ogra_is this booting from some internal disk, SD card, USB stick ?12:04
SudoBashSSD12:04
SudoBash162 boots!12:05
SudoBashI have 162 and 163 installed12:05
SudoBash162 because 163 does this12:05
SudoBashI had 29 installed, but removed it when I got 162 working12:05
SudoBashI can boot 162 right now when 163 does this12:05
SudoBashI can see some dmesg even12:06
SudoBashoh apparently I can't type anything at the busybox prompt12:07
SudoBashso definitely missing some driver modules12:07
SudoBashbooting back to 162 to check12:08
SudoBash162 boots in like 5 sec12:09
ogra_well, i wonder how you got into that state (163 not booting) .... it surely works for all others12:09
ogra_and there should definitely be USB HID drivers in the initrd to allow keyboard input12:10
SudoBashafter installing 18.04.1 it does that on initial upgrade12:10
ogra_(as well as disk/controller drivers)12:10
SudoBashit will update you to 163 and that's what I get12:10
SudoBashyea I got some of that same stuff when modules-extra wasn't installed on 162, I'm using a logitech unifier12:11
SudoBashI'm checking modules12:11
ogra_looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.15.0-163.171 there is really nothing exotic in the changelog ... or anythig that could cause this12:11
SudoBashmodules and modules-extra is already installed for 4.15.0-16312:12
SudoBashare*12:12
SudoBash163-generic12:12
SudoBashI'm on an AMD FX-8320, nothing special, pretty old12:13
SudoBashwait12:14
SudoBashI get an error on that update-initramfs about modules for 16312:14
SudoBashcould not open tmp dir for modules.order and modules.builtin12:15
ogra_"pretty old" -> it was new when 18.04 was new ...12:15
SudoBashNo such file or directory12:15
SudoBashit's AMD6412:15
SudoBashevery linux has always worked on this thing12:15
SudoBashI've installed every ubuntu version on this back to 201612:16
ogra_right, just saying 🙂12:16
ogra_there is no reason why 5.4 should not work though12:16
SudoBashthe update-initramfs error is in depmod12:16
SudoBash5.4 does work, just not for that wireless device12:16
SudoBashthe only thing I've seen it work on thus far is 4.15.0-2912:17
ogra_well, the GH page says it was tested up to 5.712:17
ogra_i peronally would ditch 4.x and try to make it work on 5.412:17
SudoBashthat means jack to me if ubuntu 20.04 doesn't work, plus 18.04 is supposed to be LTS just like 20.0412:17
ogra_sure ... it is LTS ... but you are manipulatig it12:18
SudoBash18.04 is faster in just about every way, plus no connections to ubuntu12:18
SudoBash20.04 boots slowers12:18
SudoBasheverything is slower about 20.0412:18
SudoBashand above12:18
ogra_not for me 🙂12:19
SudoBashthen you forgot how fast 18.04 is12:19
SudoBashI've used both back and forth12:19
SudoBashafter 20.04 came out12:19
SudoBash18.04 is faster in every way, especially boot12:19
ogra_heh, well, i skipped 18.04 in fact ... most of my machies went from 16.04 to 20.04 and i cant really se a difference12:20
SudoBashkernel 5 has bloat now12:20
ogra_(regarding boot times)12:20
SudoBashthis isn't really modifying, it's just compiling a wireless driver12:21
SudoBashI've done nothing but install 18.04.1 and do sudo apt-get update and then an upgrade12:21
SudoBashand it breaks12:21
SudoBashthat's Ubuntu12:21
SudoBashnot me12:21
oerhekstry dist-upgrade ..12:22
SudoBashf no12:22
SudoBashI know better than that12:22
SudoBashthat's been broken for over a decade12:22
oerheksdist-upgrade does not upgrade to a higher version, ..12:22
oerheks!distupgrade12:22
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.12:22
SudoBashit always breaks Sh1t12:22
SudoBashALWAYS12:22
oerheksno, it does not.12:22
SudoBashI've never seen it not break something12:23
ravageyou seem to know a lot of things better. i will get some popcorn12:23
SudoBashI've been on ubuntu since 200612:23
SudoBashit always used to break X12:23
SudoBashespecially with nvidia12:23
SudoBashso don't give me that bs, that will upgrade kernel12:23
SudoBashif someone is trying to stay on a specific LTS, than that would be considered a sabotage type of suggestion12:24
SudoBashan upgrade to a currently supported LTS should work fine12:25
oerheksdist-upgrade does not pull in 20.04 dude12:25
SudoBashyea but upgrades to 18.04.612:25
SudoBashI should have taken this PoS wireless adapter back, what a rip off12:26
SudoBashit crashes and windows and only works on linux 4.15.0-29, I'll never buy netgear anything ever again12:26
SudoBashin windows*12:26
SudoBashI'm talking windows 10 latest full updates12:27
SudoBashso what does the dist-upgrade do oerheks?12:28
SudoBashwait wait wait12:28
SudoBashI think I know what is going on12:29
SudoBashwhen I modinfo the /lib/modules .ko file, I get the correct verinfo file12:30
SudoBashbut when I run modinfo on the mt7662u_sta I get verinfo for 4.15.0-29 instead of 16212:30
SudoBashI get verinfo 162 on the .ko file but .29 on the module name12:30
SudoBashso It's trying to load the 29 module somehow?12:30
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SudoBashokay nvm, it works for 162 if the module is the right place.... OOOPS12:44
SudoBash163 still doesn't work, but at least it's working on 16212:44
SudoBashthanks for your both of your help12:45
pagioshey guys do you guys recommend any nice email osluitoon? i am thinking dovecot,postfix,spamass, mysql12:45
SudoBashI encourage you to check the upgrade path from 18.04.1 to 4.15.0-163 because it's broken, but whatever maybe it doesn't matter12:46
ogra_there are literally tens of millions or users on 18.04, i assume there would be quote an outcry if it broke for many of them ...12:47
ogra_s/or/of/12:48
ogra_*quite12:48
ThinkT510you should run updates more often12:48
SudoBashinstall 18.04.1 instead of 18.04.6 and do and sudo apt-get update and then a sudo apt-get upgrade12:48
pagios?12:49
SudoBashthat will take you from 4.15.0-29 to 4.15.0-26312:49
SudoBash16312:49
SudoBashmaybe it was DKMS on this module?12:49
SudoBashbreaking all modules12:50
ogra_DKMS wouldnt break your disk controller so it times out finding your root disk12:50
SudoBashone sec, I have an error to share relating to 163 that I think is relevant if you care?12:51
ThinkT510SudoBash: why not file a bug report?12:51
SudoBash1: they're too complicated 2: too time consuming 3: they get ridiculed to hell12:52
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SudoBash2depmod: WARNING: could not open /var/tmp/mkinitramfs_9N63D6/lib/modules/4.15.0-163-generic/modules.order: No such file or directory12:53
ThinkT510they are probably ridiculed because you haven't tested properly12:53
oerhekswhen you are still on 18.04.1, filing a bugreport is useless12:53
SudoBashI've never submitted one, because they're ridiculed so badly and harshly........12:53
ogra_1) "ubuntu-bug linux" isnt really complicated .... 2) you surely spent more time chatting here than it takes to write a few lines ybout your prob in a bug ... not sure what you mean with 3)12:53
SudoBash2depmod: WARNING: could not open /var/tmp/mkinitramfs_9N63D6/lib/modules/4.15.0-163-generic/modules.builtin: No such file or directory12:53
ogra_thats not an error12:54
ogra_it says "WARNING" in capital letters even 🙂12:54
SudoBash2well that's the only different in 162 and 16312:54
SudoBash2ONLY12:54
ogra_nothing fatal really ...12:54
SudoBash2when doing update-initramfs12:54
SudoBash2that's the only difference I can tell so far12:55
SudoBash2I have wifi working on 162 now tho so thanks, even tho I found the problem myself, the chat helped get me there12:55
ThinkT510perhaps invest in a rubber duck12:56
SudoBash2wtf is that supposed to mean12:56
ThinkT510rubber duck typing is a common debugging procedure12:57
SudoBashI articulated the issue fine and provided plenty of output12:58
SudoBashit's always the end users fault if a bunch of autistic linux nerds can't understand normal language?12:59
oerhekskeep this channel family friendly, thanks13:01
ogra_SudoBash, you should be aware of https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2021-3744 and https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2021-3764 if you plan to keep using -162 in production ...13:02
ubottu** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2021-3744>13:02
ubottu** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2021-3764>13:02
SudoBashgreat so linux sucks and switch to FreeBSD?13:02
ogra_just use a security maintained kernel 🙂13:03
ogra_(like 5.4 if you have issues with 4.x)13:03
SudoBashlol I was on 5.4 because of these same issues13:03
SudoBashand switched to 18.04 because of these sisues13:04
SudoBashissues13:04
SudoBashsysues13:04
ogra_you said you switched because 5.4 boots slower13:04
SudoBashnah mainly to get this netgear wifi working13:04
SudoBashand then I noticed that13:04
SudoBashhow would I know 18.04 boots quicker before switching from 20.04 :-P13:05
SudoBashI guess on the upgrade to 20.04 maybe but that was a long time ago13:05
ogra_dunno, as  said, i didn bserve that on any machine13:05
ogra_*observe13:05
SudoBashokay, so what is the upgrade path from 18.04 to 5.4?13:06
SudoBashand does 163 fix that cve?13:06
SudoBashHWE?13:06
ogra_linux-generic-hwe-18.0413:07
SudoBashjust install linux-image-5.4?13:07
ogra_and yes, the CVE is fixed in 163 too13:08
SudoBashinstalling 5.4.0-91, is that recent?13:09
SudoBash5.4.0-91.102~18.04.8113:09
SudoBasherr .113:09
oerheksfor 18.04.6 + HWE  ?13:12
oerheks!hwe13:12
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack13:12
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe-5.4/5.4.0-91.102~18.04.113:12
SlartibartI found the following line from dmesg: 'igc 0000:03:00.0 enp3s0: renamed from eth0'. No mentioning eth0 or enp3s0 after that. But if I run ifconfig neither interface shows up either o_0. Shouldn't they(at least one of them) do that?13:13
SudoBashthat just slowed my boot down significantly from 5 sec to like 1 minute13:13
SudoBashliterally13:13
oerheksonly the 1st time, i gues, if there is a DKMS package to build13:14
SudoBashtrying again, shutdown slow13:14
SudoBashstill trying to shutdown13:15
SudoBashwow, so who broke Linux?13:15
SudoBashstill trying to shutdown13:15
SudoBashstill trying to shutdown13:16
SudoBashCool so Ubuntu is like Windows now?13:16
aurolacare you using wayland/x or cli ?13:16
SudoBashits hanging on the netgear device13:17
SudoBashmt76x2u vendor request req: 47 off:9018 failed:-11013:17
SudoBashcool so Linux is like Windows now and just hangs on shutdown for stupid reasons13:18
ogra_stupid reasons -> seemingly because you broke it13:18
SudoBashoh cool, pull the usb netgear device, get another error, then shutdown13:18
SudoBashno linux has always done this stupid stuff13:19
ogra_not for millions of other users13:19
SudoBashI'm 35 and I've been using Linux since I was 12 and I've been a Linux admin and system engineer, don't give me that shit13:19
SudoBashstarted with mandrake 7 old school, so spare me13:19
ogra_tame your language please ....13:19
SudoBashI've also built distro's, I know Linux, and I know how many times Ubuntu has broken for users too13:21
* ogra_ is 51 and started way before mandrake existed ... yet i still manage to break my installs at times with tinkering ... your argument is moot ... 13:21
SudoBashall you have to do is look at the millions of posts in the forums stretching back to the beginning to know you're trying to pass off some BS with that statement13:21
SudoBashyea yea, my brother was an original slackware user13:22
SudoBashwhatever, Linux has ALWAYS had problems13:22
SudoBashnow it's starting to behave like Windows in newer versions13:23
aurolacso stop whining like a little bitch and use another distro13:23
SudoBashyea I might just do that13:23
ogra_note that this is a supprt channel ... we have other channels wheer you can do ranting 😉13:23
* ogra_ points to #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-discuss 13:24
SudoBashI might just make a new one with a sensible default desktop manager like lightdm and sensible default window manager like mate13:24
ogra_why not just use ubuntu-mate then ? it comes with both ...13:25
aurolacinstall gnome-boxes and try different setups, till you find a nice one13:25
SudoBashbecause the suggestion was to get off of Ubuntu13:25
ogra_only if you feel like ubuntu does not fit your needs13:26
SudoBashI guess that's the best suggestion I've heard thus far, since that's the answer you get when Ubuntu devs break Linux13:26
SudoBashand then try to blame the users13:26
SudoBashwhere are the friendly, sensible distros?13:27
jkcSudoBash: A poor craftsman blames his tools. Ubuntu is a very friendly, sensible distro, for both desktops/workstations/laptops and services.13:28
jkcI'm sorry that you take ill-advised actions with your systems that lead to instability and issues, but I'm sure you can learn to be more competent. Just a skillset you need to develop. :)13:28
SudoBash@jkc, I'm a developer man.. It's not poor craftsman, I've been using ubuntu for over a decade and watched it decline over many years13:28
jkcDevelopment has about zero to do with system administration.13:29
jkcSo, new skillset for you to learn.13:29
SudoBashI was a system admin and then a system engineer before becoming a dev.....13:29
SudoBashI've built distro's13:29
ogra_!ot ....13:29
SudoBashyou all just like to think everyone is an idiot13:29
ogra_!offtpic ...13:29
ogra_!offtopic ...13:29
ogra_geez13:29
SudoBashI think there is a syndrome for that13:29
jkcogra_: Before coffee?13:30
oerheksthis mt7662u_sta  driver is build on old unmaintained code. so it is a hw issue, not an ubuntu issue13:30
ogra_jkc, somehow, yeah13:30
oerheksbut rant away, we don't care13:30
ogra_before brain 🙂13:30
SudoBashI said before, it was literally the only thing in the store........ :-|13:30
SudoBashand it's a desktop not a laptop13:31
SudoBashok that new module someone sent from github, does work on this new 5.4 kernel13:33
SudoBashso why aren't these modules included in Ubuntu if it's so old?13:33
SudoBashor ANY module for them?13:33
ogra_Ubuntu includes what upstream includes13:33
SudoBashThese are the ONLY things in stores right now...13:34
SudoBashwhatever...13:34
ogra_(sometimes backported from linux-next if there is a chance the stuff shows up in the next release)13:34
SlartibartIs it possible that ubuntu doesn't auto mount network interfaces? ..that I need to write an netplan file or something for it to show?13:35
SudoBashthe original chipset is like 6 years old!13:35
SudoBashslartibart, I believe you can actually include network mounts in fstab13:35
oerheksmt7662u_sta is much older, and always been a trouble maker..13:35
jkcSlartibart: Correct.13:36
SudoBashif it's so old then why isn't it included in Ubuntu?13:36
jkcAt least, from everything i know. o.o13:36
jkcnetplan configs are pretty easy to write, but I'll help you with it if you need.13:36
ogra_SudoBash, ask linus ?13:36
ogra_he's the gatekeeper13:36
SudoBashnetplan syntax isn't intuitive at all....13:36
SudoBashthese are the only wireless devices available in some stores right now because of shortages every where13:37
SlartibartAlright, thanks both, looking into it.13:37
SudoBashSlartibart what kind of network mount?13:37
ogra_Slartibart, netplan.io has a bunch of easy to follow examples for typical card setups ...13:38
ogra_just check the website13:38
ogra_and if you get stuck we can help further ...13:39
SudoBashpretty sure I'm stuck smb shares in fstab for a custom network linux clamav scanner before13:40
SudoBashI've*13:40
SudoBashnot sure if NFS would work or not13:40
jkcSlartibart: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dcY9Rwxj6J/13:41
jkcThat's just a super-basic dhcp config.13:41
jkc(obviously replace eth0 with your interface name)13:43
SlartibartSudoBash: My bad, poor choice of words. I meant ethernet ports. It works in windows, so it's there. Ubuntu so far hasn't acknowledged it though.13:44
Slartibartjkc: Thanks :), looking into it.13:44
SudoBashwhat was wrong with network interface files? who forced the switch to netplan anyways?13:44
oerheksnetplan is linux wide, so get used to it13:45
ogra_SudoBash, ifupdown was deprecated upstream around 2009 ... it has simply not been maintained in a long time13:45
SudoBashyou mean it was old code that worked?13:45
oerheksold code with ugly limitations13:45
ogra_and no upstream to fix them13:46
SudoBashok yea I can agree with that a little I guess13:46
jkcI replace the network manager on every system with netplan/networkd.13:46
jkcBecause it just always works.13:46
SudoBashnetplan syntax could be a little more intuitive13:46
ogra_well, NM is great if you have mobile connections ... i dont think netplan can cope well with that yet13:47
SudoBashthe simple configs are easy but advanced configs are just not intuitive at all13:47
jkcnetplan can use NM as its backend, though I'm not sure what limitations may exist.13:47
SudoBashI use network-manager for anything GUI, netplan for servers13:47
ogra_yeah, netplan can use NM as backend but NM is integrated with modem-manager to actually drive the modems properly ...13:48
jkcnetplan doesn't change that. It hands the config off to NM, and NM does what NM would do if those configs were created directly.13:49
ogra_sure13:50
ogra_you still need NM to manage the devices ... and if you d that you can as well just use nmcli/nmtui instead of netplan ...13:50
jkcnetplan is a lot less cumbersome :D13:51
ogra_though the great thing is that you dont have to 🙂13:51
jkcYup.13:51
BluesKajHi folks13:58
hejuxi was wrong about ubuntu14:09
hejuxtmux new -X is back.14:09
xheimlichhi, I need help.14:15
EriC^^!ask | xheimlich14:16
ubottuxheimlich: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:16
xheimlichyes, I thought I'd try a begging component. I'm out of ideas. I'm not very smart, it seems.14:16
xheimlichAnyway, I can't install python3.10 from apt14:16
oerhekson what ubuntu version?14:17
xheimlichmy uname -a says "#90~18.04.1 Ubuntu SMP". I presume I have 18.04.14:17
leftyfbxheimlich: why do you need 3.10?14:17
xheimlichbecause importing from the typing model is annoying.14:17
xheimlichs/model/module/14:17
oerheks2.10 is only available on hirsuite hippo and above14:17
oerheks*3.1014:18
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.1014:18
jkcIt's an import, which is a single line.14:18
xheimlicheh. Python should have a better story on this stuff that lets you keep your virtualenvs, etc.14:18
xheimlichanyway, I came for that information I guess.14:19
oerheksupgrade to 21.04 or higher?14:19
xheimlichcan this be done somewhat nondisruptively?14:19
jkcOr just don't worry about an import?14:19
xheimlichI don't have any other computers around.14:20
jkcAnd going from 18.04 - an LTS release - to >21.04 - NOT an LTS release - may not be a good idea.14:20
xheimlichjkc: have you ever seen a middlish-to-smallish Python codebase? Reading through imports is horrible.14:20
jkcI've worked with a very large Python codebase, and reading through imports is trivial.14:21
xheimlichyeah. I did get my gpu working for Pytorch stuff, and I'm not looking forward to tinkering14:21
xheimlichjkc: you obviously have greater brainpower than me.14:21
jkc/shrug14:21
leftyfbxheimlich: grep -R import <insert module here> /path/to/codebase ?14:22
xheimlichI spread my code in files too eagerly I guess. it helps keeping my separation of concerns straight.14:23
xheimlichAlso I've just this month ripped a module from a text analysis thing to a robotrading thing. just clean off. but I end up having too many files.14:25
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Guest2854no sound14:29
xheimlichI use alsamixer.14:30
Guest2854how do I restore the sound14:30
xheimlicha TUI thing. I use a crappy WM that I already knew how to use.14:30
weedmici typed this to add a device to be managed by nmcli and it works fine, but i've been told to delete it, yet I cannot figure out how.  I have tried many combinations (all have add replaced with delete.  anyone know the format.  sudo nmcli c add type gsm ifname '*' apn gettytelecom.net.il14:30
xheimlichMigrating to xmonad was too frustrating.14:30
KBarGuest2854: What version of Ubuntu do you have?14:31
xheimlichanyway, I recommend: alsamixer for sound and nmtui for wi-fi.14:31
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure is a good start14:31
weedmicGuest2854: are yo sure your sound is just not going to the wrong device, like hdmi2 instaed of hdmi1 or some other place?14:31
oerhekskillall pulseaudio; pulseaudio -k  ; rm -r ~/.config/pulse/* ; rm -r ~/.pulse* ## and restart your audio application again14:31
Guest285414.04314:31
oerheks14.04 is dead, EOL, upgrade please14:32
oerheksno support here for such ancient version...14:32
weedmica bit tough oerheks if he is merely aiming the sound to the wrong port14:32
xheimlichwhat's the procedure for upgrading in-place with relatively little hassle?14:32
weedmicclick on your speaker and ensure the "output" is correct.14:32
oerheksweedmic, yes, but we have to draw a line14:32
oerhekssuch old version should not be connected to the internet14:32
weedmicthen reboot :D14:32
Maikquote: "#ubuntu supports Ubuntu and official flavors; versions 18.04, 20.04, 21.04, 21.10 "14:33
jkcweedmic: It's not tough on one person's part. Only supported versions receive support. It's in the topic.14:33
leftyfbGuest2854: you were told 3 days ago 14.04 is not supported14:33
Guest2854ok thank you14:34
jkcGuest2854: Time to upgrade.14:34
leftyfbGuest2854: stop asking for help with sound on 14.04.14:35
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weedmicnmcli con dlete gsm-ttyUSB2-1 (which is the name not the device) - works14:43
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polveHi.  What is the suggested way to install telegram-desktop?  Looks like the version currently in the repo is outdated14:51
jkcpolve: snap14:52
jkchttps://snapcraft.io/telegram-desktop14:52
polveOk, I might have to learn what snap is, I have postponed it for a bit14:53
polveThank you jkc14:53
jkchttps://snapcraft.io/install/telegram-desktop/ubuntu14:53
jkcThere's the how-to. :)14:53
leftyfbpolve: sudo snap install telegram-desktop14:53
jkcpolve: They're basically applications bundled with the libraries that they require. Doesn't depend on system-wide packages.14:53
octav1aoh snap14:54
jkcpolve: And what leftyfb said is correct for all currently-supported Ubuntu releases.14:54
jkcI couldn't remember which Ubuntu versions required you to install snapd first.14:55
leftyfbnone that are supported14:56
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cambrian_invadertomreyn: looks like it was a mirror issue of some kind; today I can update without issue16:36
fizzsiehello?16:46
Kuleshovhttp://streamer.psyradio.org:8010/progressive/ MUSIC16:53
leftyfbKuleshov: STOP16:53
leftyfb!op | Kuleshov has been told several times to stop spamming here16:54
ubottuKuleshov has been told several times to stop spamming here: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, chu16:54
oerhekslets wait for the kline16:56
ranjithhi17:05
leftyfboerheks: they have been posting since the beginning of the month17:06
ranjithI have repaired my touchpad and replace with my new touchapad but now the touchpad is working but no scrolling. The kernel detected the touchpad as generic mouse17:06
ranjithPlease help17:07
oerheksranjith, what makes you think it is a software issue?17:07
ranjithno touchpad option in settings ?17:08
KuleshovInstall Windows 1117:08
oerheksKuleshov, you are not helpfull.17:08
Kuleshovsorry17:08
ranjithis there any anything i can do?17:08
oerheksranjith, what is the output of 'xinput' ? paste it on paste.ubuntu.com17:11
ranjith Virtual core pointer                        id=2    [master pointer  (3)]17:11
ranjith⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer                  id=4    [slave  pointer  (2)]17:11
ranjith⎜   ↳ PS/2 Generic Mouse                          id=11    [slave  pointer  (2)]17:11
ranjith⎜   ↳ PixArt Lenovo USB Optical Mouse             id=12    [slave  pointer  (2)]17:11
ranjith⎣ Virtual core keyboard                       id=3    [master keyboard (2)]17:11
ranjith    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard                 id=5    [slave  keyboard (3)]17:11
oerheks!paste17:11
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:11
jhutchinsranjith: Do you have any information on the make or model of the new touchpad?17:14
TomyLobohi, I'm trying to get my old wsl setup working again. I used ubuntu, KDE Konsole, cygwin's X server and it all just worked. now I updated it to wsl2 and a new ubuntu version (20.04) and it no longer works cause it's missing a platform plugin for X11. is there any way to install that?17:15
ranjithlenova ideapad 15ibd 80qq17:15
leftyfb!wsl | TomyLobo17:16
ubottuTomyLobo: Windows 10 and newer have a feature called "Windows Subsystem for Linux", which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide17:16
TomyLobothat's not helping17:16
leftyfbTomyLobo: look into reverting to xorg on 20.04 as opposed to wayland maybe17:17
oerheksuse the wsl docs ? https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/setup/environment17:17
TomyLobothat requires win11, unfortunately17:18
TomyLobo"You will need to be on Windows 11 Build 22000 or higher to access this feature. You can join the Windows Insiders Program to get the latest preview builds.17:18
TomyLobo"17:18
leftyfbTomyLobo: ok, good luck17:19
TomyLoboi just found out the plugin isnt named x11 but xcb. maybe I can find the package under that name17:19
leftyfbTomyLobo: you really should just use a VM if you need to run the graphical applications17:19
TomyLobowhy?17:20
TomyLoboI just want a better console than the default thing17:20
leftyfbTomyLobo: because Ubuntu desktop on WSL isn't supported officially17:20
TomyLoboit worked fine before17:20
oerheksor try #windows-wsl here on #livera17:20
oerheksc/libera17:21
oerheksbut i remember you asked this before..17:21
TomyLoboyes, probably several years ago and i did make it work :)17:22
TomyLobobut the update to 20.04 broke it for various reasons. one of them being the missing plugin, another being that wsl1 is no longer supported17:23
oerheksgood luck !17:23
TomyLobothanks. btw, turns out that plugin was installed all along. it's just not loading for some reason17:26
ranjithxinput list-props 1117:28
ranjithDevice 'PS/2 Generic Mouse':17:28
ranjith    Device Enabled (173):    117:28
ranjith    Coordinate Transformation Matrix (175):    1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.00000017:28
ranjith    libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled (308):    017:28
ranjith    libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled Default (309):    017:28
TomyLoboranjith, please go to https://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste your output there17:31
coz_good day all17:34
ranjithi havve ellan touchpaf17:35
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oerheksranjmy bet; hardware issue17:38
jhutchinsTomyLobo: "Worked before" != supported.17:56
jhutchinsWSL is a Microsoft product, only they know how they have mangled it.  It is not possible to install a standard Linux distribution on WSL.17:57
TomyLobohah, I figured it out: wsl2 is more separated from the main os than wsl1 is. it simply cannot reach the socket anymore, because it's not reachable on localhost anymore17:58
TomyLoboso I just have to figure out how WSL's networking works and then I can this working again17:58
leftyfbjhutchins: while I agree it's very difficult for us to support WSL here, I'm pretty sure the install is just based on the official Ubuntu cloud images, just abstracted with their own hypervisor and kernel17:59
trafficjam88anyone know what this error is? The following packages have unmet dependencies: pptp-linux: Depends: ppp but it is not installed network-manager: Depends: libnm0 (= 1.30.0-1ubuntu3) but 1.32.12-0ubuntu1 is installed Recommends: ppp but it is not installed network-manager-pptp: Depends: ppp (< 2.4.7-3~) but it is not installed Depends: ppp (>=17:59
trafficjam882.4.7-2+~) but it is not installed17:59
leftyfbtrafficjam88: please pastebin the error messages along with the command you are running, why you are running it, what version of ubuntu you are running and your end goal18:00
TomyLobotrafficjam88, do an "apt update" and try again. if that doesn't help, pastebin the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}"18:00
ash_worksiis there a directory I just pop on over to to run ./configure ... for various packages?18:01
leftyfbash_worksi: no18:01
trafficjam88apt update works but apt upgrade fails with that error18:01
TomyLobotrafficjam88, emphasis on pastebin. https://paste.ubuntu.com/18:01
leftyfbash_worksi: ( cat /etc/os-release ; sudo apt update ) | nc termbin.com 999918:02
TomyLoboleftyfb, I think you might have pinged the wrong person there18:03
ash_worksileftyfb: what do you do when you see something like (nginx manpages) `To enable a debugging log, reconfigure nginx to build with debugging: ./configure --with-debug`18:04
trafficjam88https://dpaste.com/FRMMDPBBK18:04
ash_worksi(note: nginx -V does not currently list the --with-debug option)18:04
leftyfbtrafficjam88: ( cat /etc/os-release ; sudo apt install -f ; sudo apt update ) | nc termbin.com 999918:05
ash_worksiI mean, do you just search the apt repository for a package that has that built in?18:06
trafficjam88leftyfb: https://dpaste.org/jsDq18:06
leftyfbash_worksi: if it's not built in, you would need to compile your own package with the options and reinstall18:06
leftyfbtrafficjam88: PopOS isn't supported here. Feel free to look on their web page for support options18:07
ash_worksimeaning, I have to download the source and compile, yes?18:07
TomyLobotrafficjam88, my advice would be to get rid of PPTP as soon as possible18:07
leftyfbTomyLobo: they're not running Ubuntu18:07
TomyLoboit's still sound advice18:08
leftyfbash_worksi: yes. Though maybe you might be better served looking for support around the issue that's causing you to want to enable debug mode18:08
TomyLoboPPTP is obsolete and your data isn't safe with it18:09
trafficjam88TomyLobo: ah i found a bug reporting this issue on github, trying a solution now18:09
leftyfbtrafficjam88: please seek further support from PopOS18:10
trafficjam88leftyfb: i don't need further support, i've fixed it18:10
ash_worksileftyfb: I just want to be able to see what location block is evaluated without having to resort to things like custom variables inside the location blocks where I then have to have a global `map "" $custom_var {}`18:10
TomyLobotrafficjam88, you mean you got rid of whatever you needed PPTP for? that was quick18:10
ash_worksi(at least, not to throw an error)18:11
ash_worksiin any event, there are times where I am sort of forced to use `./configure`18:11
trafficjam88well it says to remove a .sources file and then run the upgrade again18:11
leftyfbtrafficjam88: please seek further support from PopOS18:12
TomyLobo!popos18:12
ubottuThe Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)18:12
TomyLobotrafficjam88, there's #system76 here on freenode18:13
ash_worksiTomyLobo: here on "Libera"18:13
trafficjam88ah cool, thanks18:13
TomyLobowhoopsy18:13
TomyLoboyes, libera18:14
ash_worksi:P18:14
ash_worksiI mean, even I was like, "wait... why doesn't that sound right?"18:14
TomyLoboi googled for it, found one on freenode, tried it out here on libera, it worked, then out of habit still said "here on libera". I am not confused.18:15
ash_worksistill said "here on freenode"18:15
ash_worksiunless that was the joke >.<18:15
leftyfbtrafficjam88: https://chat.pop-os.org/ is their support. Good luck18:16
TomyLobomaybe i am confused18:16
trafficjam88thanks18:16
ash_worksileftyfb: do you not ever compile from source?18:18
leftyfbash_worksi: almost never18:18
* ash_worksi digests that fact18:18
ash_worksileftyfb: do you ever use nginx?18:19
leftyfbyes18:19
ash_worksiand you never find it useful to have `--with-debug` ?18:19
ash_worksior is that one of the exceptions possibly?18:19
leftyfbash_worksi: I never do anything with it beyond standing up a simple web server. I use apache when I need vhosts or more sophisticated hosting18:20
ash_worksiI see18:21
jhutchinsash_worksi: If you see documents that say a simple option like logging/debugging requires recompiling, dig deeper.  Most common options are configurable in popular distribution packages.18:22
jhutchinsash_worksi: You'll still see docs that tell you to recompile the kernel to enable something that's been modular for 20 years.18:23
ash_worksijhutchins: do you mean, there might just be an apt package --with-debug already?18:23
jhutchinsash_worksi: Yes, there might be.  Worth looking.18:23
jhutchinsash_worksi: If you've hand compiled a stripped-down version for speed/efficiency, you might need to recompile to enable it.18:24
ash_worksiokay, well I seem to be quite inept at that; I tried `apt search nginx-debug` but that yielded nothing18:24
ash_worksi`apt search nginx` didn't look like anything I needed either18:24
ash_worksijhutchins: I didn't; just `apt install nginx`18:24
ash_worksiso, if I wanted/needed to compile from source, the obvious place for the source download is Download/, would you keep the extracted source there is there a better FHS-y place like somewhere in /usr/local/src or something?18:31
ash_worksijhutchins: so, wait is that what you meant, or did you mean that I might be able to shim that behaviour in some other way?18:31
jhutchinsash_worksi: How you set up a built environment is pretty much up to you.  Ubuntu assumes some standards if you use the apt system to download the source.  My build experience is not with Ubuntu, so I'm not much help with that.18:33
jhutchinsash_worksi: I would still dig for an already-available configuration option on the stock ngnix packages.18:33
ash_worksijhutchins: I'm not entirely sure what `digging` entails18:34
jhutchinsash_worksi: I don't know what options the nginx-full package has compared with plain nginx.18:35
ash_worksijhutchins: I'll try installing that18:39
TomyLoboI mean... I wouldn't compile nginx from source either, but come on, apache? nginx can also do vhosts and the only reason "sophisticated hosting" would require an apache is if it's php or something. And even that can be hosted with an nginx using fastcgi now18:42
TomyLoboash_worksi, if you use case requires compiling nginx from source, it is either very specialized (i.e. go to #nginx instead of asking here) or you're doing it wrong (i.e. go do it right)18:43
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jhutchinsThe reason for using Apache instead of nginx is that there's a very large body of experience and documentation for many possible scenarios.  You don't have to be a "first adopter".  Not that nginx is new, except in comparison with Apache.18:47
jhutchinsash_worksi: TomyLobo's suggestion of #nginx is a good idea.18:48
TomyLobonginx is from 2004, older than git (2005)18:50
mojtabaHello, does anybody know how can I add an app indicator in Gnome top bar? (basically I want to add that indicator based on the existence of a background process.)18:50
llanhmodhey guys, need tips for resolving this dependency issue: https://bpa.st/VX3A,  currently I want to start the mongdb server but I get `mongod.service not found`.  I do have mongod installed.18:51
llanhmodbackground: I did install mongodb-shell from .deb sources, and I think this may be causing me issues.18:51
TomyLobothat's not a dependency issue, that's a prompt. what happens if you say yes?18:52
llanhmodTomyLobo: https://bpa.st/JISA18:53
TomyLobollanhmod, uh yup, you have a conflict :)18:53
llanhmodyeah... purging the mongodb-org doesn't help though.18:54
TomyLobomy suggestion would be to remove+purge everything mongodb-related, then only install it from *one* source18:54
TomyLobodpkg -S /usr/bin/mongod; dpkg -S /usr/bin/mongos18:54
llanhmodhm...let me try that.18:55
TomyLobothat should show you 2 of the packages you need to get rid of18:55
llanhmodokay, so just purge those? or apt remove ?18:56
TomyLoboprobably best to purge18:56
llanhmodsweet, that allowed the --fix-broken to complete. thanks, TomyLobo!18:59
TomyLobook now switch to a db whose official packages properly conflict with the distro packages so this won't happen again :)19:03
TomyLoboconflict as in having a Conflicts field19:04
llanhmoddoes that mean add the official repo to the sources.list file? did that....19:05
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ash_worksiyeah, well, I am trying to keep these to general, "this is what I would do with ubuntu" questions19:07
llanhmodTomyLobo: think I'm good. thank you again: https://bpa.st/ORBA19:09
llanhmodTomyLobo: oh,,you said switch to a 'db' haha.. I'm learning on the job here...19:12
llanhmodPostgresql is my favorite but... I'm loving MongoDB19:12
ash_worksiftr, nginx-full does not have --with-debug19:17
ash_worksioh it doe!19:18
ash_worksidoes*19:18
ash_worksinvm19:18
Guest24you hot as f19:21
Guest24lets do it19:21
HasnainHello19:22
ash_worksiwhy does ubuntu's container insert ;5D when using ctrl+<left arrow> ?19:23
ash_worksiI thought the default distro has bindings that move the cursor?19:23
ash_worksiyeah, none of my dot files have references to backward-word19:28
TomyLobolooks like a control code19:29
ash_worksiyeah, I guess it should be mapped to \e[1;5C or something19:31
ash_worksibut I mean... I don't have a problem with it on my normal laptop19:31
ash_worksithe container prints it for some reason though19:31
ash_worksi¯\_(ツ)_/¯19:31
ash_worksieven install nginx-full didn't yield the `nginx-debug` command19:35
ash_worksi¯\_(ツ)_/¯19:35
TomyLoboash_worksi, my suggestion would be to step back and find a solution where you dont need that command19:35
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ash_worksiok, now that I've recieved that advice twice, I'll elaborate19:36
ash_worksiright now, there is no problem; I just have serveral debug variables littered throughout my config which I would ideally like to remove if I could just create an access_log with a prepopulated variable that tells me what location is inevitably trying to be evaluated in case I have made an error in judgement for how location blocks are processed19:37
llanhmodisn't ngingx-degub suppose to be a service?19:38
llanhmodexcuse me...nginx-debug19:38
* llanhmod checks... confirmed19:38
ash_worksi`service nginx-debug start` yields: "unrecognized service"19:38
ash_worksillanhmod: WHAT?19:38
ash_worksiwhat OS version are you running?19:39
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llanhmodwhat what? I dont know wht context you're working under...thought it was being run as a regular command.19:39
llanhmod20.0419:39
oerheks"To enable debugging in NGINX, you will need to compile/recompile Nginx with the “–with-debug” flag " ??19:39
llanhmodyea...configure arugments19:40
oerhekshttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man8/nginx.8.html19:40
oerheksand create the error log19:40
ash_worksioerheks: yes, that's what I've been saying, but I've been told to dig deeper; plus nginx-full comes with --with-debug19:41
oerheksservice nginx stop && service nginx-debug start # http://nginx.org/en/docs/debugging_log.html19:42
ash_worksillanhmod: did you manually compile nginx?19:42
oerheksdunno, just find this with bing :-D19:42
ash_worksiI don't hear of a lot of bing users :P19:43
ash_worksiso, is there something I can `apt install` to get my ctrl+<arrow keys> working? rather than manually writting a mapping that I am sure never to commit, lose and have to rewrite?19:44
oerheksubuntu forum uses bing, AFAIK19:44
TomyLoboash_worksi, that's not something to install, that's your terminal and/or your shell configuration19:44
TomyLobodont ask me for details though19:44
ash_worksiTomyLobo: but but... docker19:45
TomyLobowhat does docker have to do with this?19:46
ash_worksiI guess you're saying that's part of (installed terminal)'s configuration that comes out of the box for ubuntu and such things are obviously not part of the docker image19:46
ash_worksiTomyLobo: that was what my original question referenced19:46
ash_worksi(except I used the word "container")19:46
TomyLoboaint scrolling up to read all this19:46
ash_worksi12:23 < ash_worksi> why does ubuntu's container insert ;5D when using ctrl+<left arrow> ?19:47
ash_worksi12:23 < ash_worksi> why does ubuntu's container insert ;5D when using ctrl+<left arrow> ?19:47
ash_worksi12:23 < ash_worksi> why does ubuntu's container insert ;5D when using ctrl+<left arrow> ?19:47
ash_worksiugh19:47
ash_worksisorry19:47
ash_worksiI am used to the screen moving when I paste19:47
TomyLobooh i thought you'd just misused the word container19:48
ash_worksiso, what do you do for like, ubuntu server? do you map them yourself?19:50
AceMeHi all. I've noticed somehow I've lost desktop settings on my ubuntu pc. I did create a new user and the top bar and favorites bar are ok. I am asking if I can copy from the new user to the existing one somehow, thje settings without broking the destination user ?19:51
AceMeHi all. I've noticed somehow I've lost desktop settings on my ubuntu pc. I did create a new user and the top bar and favorites bar are ok. I am asking if I can copy from the new user to the existing one somehow, the settings without broking the destination user ?19:51
AceMeoops for duplication... I've edited the line19:52
AceMe...thought I did that19:52
AceMe:)19:52
ash_worksiwell, the good news is I can print `test location` in the log using `debug` on `error_log` without using `nginx-debug`19:54
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eldowanIs there a way to prevent resolvd from hammering my CPU when connected to a work VPN? When connected resolvd is using 100% of 1 CPU 24/720:56
TomyLobowoohoo, got it all working. I had to do "xhost +<WSL2 IP>" on the host, add some firewall rules and then adjust my KDE Konsole shortcut to C:\Windows\System32\bash.exe ~ -c "cp /mnt/c/Users/<my Windows user>/.babun/cygwin/home/<my Windows user>/.Xauthority ~ && DISPLAY=172.30.16.1:0 nohup dbus-launch konsole & sleep .1"21:09
TomyLobonot sure if the Xauthority thing is even necessary anymore, but it works now and I'm not touching it21:10
rfmeldowan, I found bug 1670959 which is quite old but never resolved, which was apparently a problem between resolved and dnsmasq, where resolved would forwared to dnsmasq and dnsmasq would then forward back to resolved....21:19
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rfmeldowan, it's possible that something similar is happening with your VPN which no doubt tries to fiddle with the DNS resolve config...21:20
eldowan@rfm Thanks I'll take a look at it.21:21
eldowanIf I could find a way to totally blacklist this interface on anything DNS that would be lovely. This use case is IP only, no DNS on the VPN21:21
rfmeldowan, one thing in that bug that looked worth trying was setting DNSStubListener=no in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf to try to break the loop. (That stops resolved from doing local DNS caching, but if you have decent response from your real DNS server that shouldn't be noticable)21:26
eldowanI've got a hardware pfsense acting as my caching DNS server on the LAN. I'll check that stub entry as well. dnsmasq isn't running on this box (I don't think)21:27
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sergeie23:19

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