[00:35] <sem> I'm having more crashes, this time all I can see in syslog is nouveau messages. Maybe I would have better luck with DVI, right now I am using HDMI
[00:36] <leftyfb> sem: you'd probably have better luck with proper Nvidia drivers over Nouveau
[00:37] <sem> worth a shot :)
[00:43] <tio> helo
[00:45] <sem> leftyfb, if "nvidia-340" is the one software sources recommends (but cannot install correctly), since it is not in the repos any more, does that mean I am out of luck?
[00:46] <leftyfb> sem: pick a different one
[00:46] <sem> Ok
[00:57] <sem> my bad it was called nvidia-340 not nvidia-driver-340
[00:57] <sem> still won't install though
[00:59] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-340 focal
[00:59] <oerheks> nvidia340 is a link to nouveau, use the driver ppa for the real 340 driver in focal or impish https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=focal
[01:02] <oerheks> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall # should work too?
[01:03] <sem> /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-340/340.108/build/nv-linux.h:122:10: fatal error: asm/kmap_types.h: No such file or directory
[01:03] <sem> I just got the ppa
[01:03] <sem> I can try autoinstall, but it was "recommending" nouveau
[01:06] <sem> looks like it is having a problem compiling
[01:08] <sem> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D8Cd5YDJ7C/
[01:10] <Bashing-om> sem: Header installed on the system ' dpkg -l linux-headers-generic ' ?
[01:10] <sem> not installed -- strange that apt didn't pull it in
[01:11] <sem> i'll install it and try again :) thanks Bashing-om
[01:11] <Bashing-om> sem: Just looking over shoulders :P
[01:11] <sem> anything else I will need for compiling these drivers?
[01:12] <sem> in the old days I would have needed build-essential
[01:12] <Bashing-om> sem: Not real sure of what you are doing - why compile your-self when the tested binaries are available ?
[01:13] <sem> i'm not trying to compile it myself, I am just installing nvidia-340 with apt and it is compiling it
[01:16] <Bashing-om> sem: Kay :) /// in that case I do strongly recommend our PPA. Enable the PPA (https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ), purge the present Nvidia driver install attempt .. and try as ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' as oerheks above suggested.
[01:17] <sem> Ok let me retrace my steps :)
[01:18] <sem> I have enabled that ppa (the one that asks you to download the phoronix test suite...?)
[01:18] <leftyfb> enabling a PPA should not ask you anything
[01:18] <sem> I will sudo apt remove --purge nvidia-340
[01:18] <sem> leftyfb, it did though! had a whole welcome message before I hit enter
[01:19] <Bashing-om> sem: Better is ' sudo apt remove --purge nvidia-* ' to get rid of ALL .
[01:19] <sem> ok
[01:21] <sem> that got rid of 2 extra packages
[01:22] <sem> Bashing-om, the output of ubuntu-drivers still looks like it is compiling stuff
[01:22] <sem> I'll pastebin in a sec
[01:23] <sem> how can I be sure that apt is using the ppa?
[01:24] <sem> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jPfTyTfBvF/
[01:24] <Bashing-om> sem: Maybe once installed sometning like ' apt policy nvidia-340 ' ?
[01:25] <sem> i'll try it
[01:27] <Bashing-om> sem: Ouch - as the kernel advises - what is in the log file " /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-340/340.108/build/make.log " ?
[01:29] <sem> I have looked at it, but it was similar to the crash log. It had this line: /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-340/340.108/build/nv-linux.h:122:10: fatal error: asm/kmap_types.h: No such file or directory
[01:29] <sem> I don't have the file any more because of the apt purge
[01:31] <Bashing-om> sem: Lemme see what I can find out - never seen that error before.
[01:32] <sem> Bashing-om, am I doing something wrong? Even after installing the ppa, it is trying to get the package from the security repo. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/39GBjQwgK7/
[01:32] <sem> Thanks for your help!
[01:33] <Bashing-om> sem: That file is a part of the headers packageing :( Did not linux-headers-generic instll ?
[01:34] <sem> Bashing-om, it installed now, but I couldn't pastebin the log file because it didn't exist. Let me try the autoinstall and I'll paste the make log if I get one
[01:34] <sem> did you see the apt dry run?
[01:36] <Bashing-om> sem: Teah - looked just now --- and for the PPA did you run as ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ' ? sudo apt update !
[01:36] <sem> yes I did, and I see the update pull in the PPA
[01:37] <sem> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Q5vZj8sBDt/
[01:37] <sem> but it shows a "Hit" but not a "Get" is that signficant?
[01:39] <sem> here is the "/var/lib/dkms/nvidia-340/340.108/build/make.log" https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rdtJWK45FJ/
[01:40] <Bashing-om> sem: what shows now ' dpkg -l | grep -i vnidia ' ?
[01:40] <sem> checking
[01:41] <sem> for now here's the apt policy
[01:41] <sem> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Txrqh4N7MQ/
[01:44] <sem> Bashing-om, dpkg results: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DqBNkBF8Dd/
[01:45] <Bashing-om> sem: Well that is the PPA version that is installed :)
[01:46] <sem> so is it expected that it is compiling something?
[01:47] <sem> and it still can't find those files it needs, even though the headers are installed
[01:52] <Bashing-om> sem: Maybe best to see what is installed for the kernels ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[01:53] <sem> looks like I have a few different kernels installed https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3CPqQwrnqP/
[01:53] <sem> this is a fresh install, from 3 days ago
[01:55] <Bashing-om> sem: Qhile I am looking - what kernel are you presently booting ' uname -r ' ?
[01:56] <sem> Bashing-om,
[01:56] <sem> 5.11
[01:56] <Bashing-om> !info linux-generic-hwe-20.04 focal
[01:57] <Intelo> I am looking for an opensource proctor app that can monitor and time interviewee screen,audio, video. Any suggestions?
[01:57] <leftyfb> Intelo: try #ubuntu-offtopic for software suggestions
[02:00] <senoraraton> I'm trying to compile my wireless card driver in Ubuntu 20.04.  The driver repo wants me to install 'module-assistant' but the package is not found, I searched the ubuntu repo online and its.. odd
[02:01] <senoraraton> It shows the package as 'impish' and then when you go to it it says module-assitant, but if you just search for impish you get 'budgie wallpapers'
[02:02] <Bashing-om> sem: 5.4.0-91 is not fully installed - how does the old 5.43 kernel play into this ?
[02:02] <leftyfb> !universe | senoraraton
[02:02] <leftyfb> senoraraton: the "module-assistant" is part of the universe repository
[02:03] <sem> Bashing-om, not sure, I only installed this system a few days ago and didn't touch the kernel
[02:11] <Bashing-om> sem: A world that I do not know - for now what shows ' sudo dkms status ' ? and we consider purging the old unused 5.4 kernel.
[02:12] <sem> nvidia-340, 340.108: added
[02:12] <sem> i can try purging the old kernel
[02:14] <Bashing-om> sem: Not at all sure - as dkms seems happy - see if the package manager is in a happy state: ' sudo apt --purge autoremove ' ??
[02:15] <sem> Bashing-om, I think the 5.4 one got installed when I did 'sudo apt install linux-headers-generic'
[02:15] <sem> because removing it also removes linux-headers-generic
[02:16] <Bashing-om> sem: Oh ! that makes sense ! HWE at play here ! vice generic .
[02:18] <sem> Bashing-om, anytime I use apt, it tries to configure nvidia-340, including the autoremove
[02:18] <sem> "1 not fully installed or removed."
[02:19] <sem> in order to make it happy I have to remove nvidia-340, or purge all nvidia*
[02:19] <sem> but it will return to the same state if I try to do the ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[02:20] <Bashing-om> sem: Let's try this ' sudo dkms autoinstall ' see if the package manager will re-configure the driver for us.
[02:20] <sem> ok
[02:22] <sem> it fails the same way
[02:23] <sem> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kMzXD3FpG2/
[02:24] <Bashing-om> sem: Yukkie-poo . over my head here too - but does the log file ' /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' give us any hints ?
[02:24] <sem> lets see...
[02:25] <sem> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xrzCWPq63v/
[02:29] <Bashing-om> sem: Tells us nothing that we already did not know - nvidia module fails to build. I am at a loss to advise on where to go from here.
[02:30] <sem> One thing I don't understand is what it is trying to build
[02:30] <sem> I thought they were binaries
[02:31] <Bashing-om> sem: Me too - In all the cases I have installed the Nvidia proprietary drivers I have never encountered these errors.
[02:35] <sem> So while that was happening my computer crashed
[02:35] <sem> And now I don't have a GUI at all, but I have virtual terminals
[02:37] <Bashing-om> sem: Ouch ! Graphic's driver all messed up - what shows - sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" - ?
[02:39] <sem> It's going
[02:39] <sem> Nothing
[02:40] <Bashing-om> sem: That too is a good thing - just another to remove from the check list.
[02:44] <Bashing-om> sem: Purging the Nvidia driver - and reboot - do you come back up on the nouveau driver ? with a functional GUI ?
[02:46] <sem> I will try
[02:47] <sem> It looks like dkpg was interrupted by the crash so fixing that now
[02:50] <sem> GUI is back!
[02:51] <ashburry> Anyone have to help with all linux distros screen flickering?
[02:51] <ashburry> dimming the screen helped but now when I log in to the gui the flickering changed to blank screen
[02:52] <leftyfb> ashburry: hardware problem?
[02:52] <ashburry> maybe
[02:52] <ashburry> maybe even a cable problem
[02:52] <ashburry> I have googled and many other people have this problem
[02:53] <leftyfb> ashburry: it's either #hardware or #linux
[03:01] <Bashing-om> sem: ' sudo lshw -C display ' say up on the nouveau driver -configuration line -?
[03:24] <sem> Bashing-om: I'll try tomorrow, I'm letting it stay off for now
[03:29] <Intelo> Is there an opensource app or free+reliable web service that allows a user to stream his desktop, voice and camera live? and that stream would be automatically be recorded somewhere on some server or so?
[03:35] <ravage> Intelo: Jitsi + Jibri
[03:37] <Intelo> ravage that will do that all?
[03:39] <Intelo> ravage great suggestion though. Is jibri serverside thing?
[03:46] <ravage> Yes. But prepare for some pain during setup
[03:46] <ravage> It's not really trivial or user friendly to do
[03:46] <ravage> Maybe follow a guide
[04:14] <Bashing-om> sem: ack - I still be interested in why the proprietary driver install fails.
[04:18] <comet23> i have ubuntu 32 bit 12.10 for school and the repos aren't working... how do i update the repos so i can get the latest updates
[04:18] <robertparkerx> what the cli for dist-upgrade?
[04:18] <robertparkerx> I forgot
[04:18] <robertparkerx> I'm sorry
[04:19] <jhutchins> robertparkerx: apt update && apt dist-upgrade
[04:20] <robertparkerx> ty
[04:20] <jhutchins> robertparkerx: That's correct for at least one version, ymmv.
[04:21] <comet23> i'm learning assembly language on linux and the class uses 32 bit ubuntu 12.10 and nothing is updating
[04:21] <comet23> is there an alternative i can use?
[04:22] <Bashing-om> !12.10 | comet23
[04:22] <jhutchins> comet23: You might want to stick to a 32b environment for the sake of compatibility.
[04:22] <jhutchins> So ...
[04:22] <jhutchins> !upgrade
[04:23] <jhutchins> I would imagine that some things like the compile utilities and libraries may have changed enough to cause you trouble.
[04:23] <robertparkerx> does apache2 2.4.41 apply the latest patch
[04:23] <Bashing-om> comet23: the repo for 12.10 ^ no longer exists as you once knew it. maybe lubuntu still has a 32 bit spin . let me check.
[04:24] <jhutchins> comet23: There's really nothing wrong with using an older version like that without updates if you're within a school/classroom environment, just don't go using it for normal broad web cruising.
[04:25] <jhutchins> comet23: In fact, it might be very informative and useful to take what you're learning on that version and see what it takes to port it to the current version.
[04:25] <jhutchins> comet23: Just set up a dual-boot install and have at it.
[04:25] <comet23> i'm using vms
[04:25] <comet23> i have 64gb ddr5 ram so i think it'll be more than enough :D
[04:26] <jhutchins> comet23: There you go, port it to as many different platforms as you like.
[04:27] <robertparkerx> When do you think ubuntu will have latest apache2 patch?
[04:27] <comet23> Bashing-om: will lubuntu be the easiest thing to use?
[04:27] <comet23> i just want it to work like ubuntu but 32 bit because i'm learning 32 bit assembly
[04:28] <jhutchins> robertparkerx: Are you sure it doesn't already?  Ubuntu version numbers are not the same as upstream version numbers.
[04:28] <robertparkerx> It says build was in 10-14
[04:28] <robertparkerx> I did apache2 -v
[04:28] <jhutchins> comet23: So stick with the school version for school, and whatever you like for your own use.
[04:28] <comet23> i can't install anything on it
[04:29] <jhutchins> robertparkerx: You really have to follow the Ubuntu CVE tracker to know what they've patched.
[04:29] <comet23> when i did apt-get update && apt-get upgrade i kept getting failed to fetch errors
[04:29] <comet23> all i want is to install things from the terminal like a normal person
[04:30] <jhutchins> comet23: Right, as shown above, there is no repository to draw the upgrades from.
[04:31] <comet23> if i get any 32bit linux will it be the same as ubuntu?
[04:31] <Bashing-om> comet23: https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/bionic/release/ has a 32 bit image - but be aware that the desktop (3 years support_is also EOL while kernel space will be supported until 2023.
[04:31] <robertparkerx> I had to add the ppa
[04:31] <comet23> thank you so much!
[04:32] <robertparkerx> I had to add the apache2 ppa
[04:33] <comet23> i wish they had specific operating systems for educational use but i guess i'm gonna have to make my own image and then upload it somewhere
[04:34] <Bashing-om> robertparkerx: See to https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-5192-1 that the vulnerabilities are patched.
[04:34] <robertparkerx> OH ty
[04:45] <guiverc> comet23, there is a respin called UbuntuEd but it's amd64 and not 32-bit (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-education-ubuntued/17063 https://fossbytes.com/ubuntued-20-04-new-educational-linux-distros-for-kids-college-students/ etc)
[04:46] <guiverc> do also note that not being an official flavor (but respin) it's off-topic here and on many Ubuntu support sites.
[05:02] <lalitmee> Hello Guys, how to disable the `Audio device plugged in` popup everytime I plug in my earphones. Earlier there was an extension from gnome but now it seems it is incompatible.
[08:21] <gholarom> if i use timeshift for backup, and i want to save user configuration setting like firefox and nvidia setting, i should select "Include Only Hidden Files" in Settings/Users right?
[08:23] <ravage> timeshift is not a tool to backup any user data
[08:23] <ravage> use BackInTime or other tools for that
[08:24] <ravage> ( or deja-dup )
[08:40] <sabas3dgh> hello ubuntu people.
[08:41] <sabas3dgh> I am looking for the name of default icon pack for ubutnu 20.04/ or 18.04. Could you help?
[08:41] <sabas3dgh> I can't thank you enough If you give me the link to that .deb package.
[08:44] <KBar> sabas3dgh: hi. I believe it's yaru-theme-icon.
[08:45] <KBar> sabas3dgh: the links for downloading are available from here: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/all/yaru-theme-icon/download
[08:45] <sabas3dgh> KBar; thank you mate!
[08:46] <KBar> sabas3dgh: You can also run the following command to download it to your current working directory: `sudo apt-get download yaru-theme-icon`.
[08:47] <KBar> sabas3dgh: you're welcome. Merry Christmas.
[10:40] <sdfgsdfg> merri xmax
[10:40] <sdfgsdfg> ubuntu people
[10:41] <zaggynl> happy days
[10:54] <nichlas> Can someone help me with an Nvidia issue. *Software & Updates* claim that there is a manually installed driver (and will not allow me to install one). If I run the newest Nvidia driver with the "--uninstall" flag, it claims that there is no driver installed. Can I change a config somewhere to tell it that no such driver is installed and have it allow me to install the normal one?
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> nichlas: pastebin; sudo lshw -C video for us please?
[10:56] <nichlas> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4YP2Xp5Qd2/
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> nichlas: driver= says installed, pastebin; nvidia-smi please?
[10:57] <oerheks> and what ubuntu version and kernel?
[10:57] <nichlas> I don't have nvidia-smi
[10:57] <oerheks> nvidia drivers want kernel 5.5 or higher
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> type that in terminal nichlas
[10:58] <nichlas> inux nichlas-MS-7B79 5.11.0-43-generic #47~20.04.2-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 13 11:06:56 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:58] <nichlas> Do you mean all drivers want 5.5 or just the newest?
[10:58] <oerheks> i would use 'sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[10:59] <oerheks> yes, but you are good, 5.11
[10:59] <nichlas> I've started ubuntu-drivers
[10:59] <nichlas> seems to be installing stuff
[11:00] <oerheks> :-)
[11:00] <nichlas> now I have `nvidia-smi`
[11:00] <nichlas> And driver 470.86
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> a lot of bugs related to 5.11 and nvidia also
[11:03] <nichlas> I'm just getting started. Now I'll see if I can get any games working.
[11:03] <oerheks> have fun!
[12:50] <Rumen> Hello
[12:51] <Rumen> ?
[12:51] <hype> Hi
[12:52] <Rumen> How can I check which programs (processes) use the audio (ALSA)?
[12:52] <Rumen> I fight with some nastry interuption for months and I can't find from where it comes to stop it
[12:53] <Rumen> the sound interupt very bad every 7-8 seconds ... it is imposible to listen music
[12:57] <Rumen> Maybe 2 processes try to use the audio card at same time and that may cause that interuption
[12:58] <Rumen> the audio card is USB external. I have changed the card to check if the problem is hardware, but it is not with other card that work for sure the problem again apears
[13:01] <Aarch64debian> where is it attached
[13:11] <Rumen> What do you mean?
[13:25] <Assid> heya
[13:26] <Assid> so i was tyring to use  teamviewer yesterday, and i got an error saying i cant use that..  with ubuntu cause of way something..
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> Assid: teamviewer is a not officialy support package for ubuntu, volunteers cant support it
[14:06] <SuperLag> Are there any dailies of 22.04 LTS yet?
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> yes SuperLag
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> !next | SuperLag
[14:07] <SuperLag> lotuspsychje: thank you
[14:12] <Dr-007> hey guys, when im in grub2 and choose ubuntu it doesnt load. when im in grub and goto advanced ubuntu settings and choose a kernel, it doesnt load. but when im in grub and goto advanced ubuntu settings choose recovery mode. let it load then choose 'return to normal boot' it loads. so im now in ubuntu
[14:12] <Dr-007> i already ran 'boot repair' which regenerates grub
[14:12] <Dr-007> but the same problem remains
[14:21] <EriC^^> Dr-007: sounds like it has to do with either a botched entry, or a graphics problem
[14:22] <WickedDekciw> Hello.. I'm trying to extend a partition from gparted (both exfat) but it isn't doing anything, unable to reclaim any free space
[14:22] <Dr-007> EriC^^, you mean a wrong grub entry?
[14:22] <EriC^^> Dr-007: try sudo update-grub to make a cfg again, if it still doesnt work try adding nomodeset to see if that's what's helping it boot
[14:22] <WickedDekciw> Any idea what could be causing this?
[14:22] <Dr-007> EriC^^, boot repair does that, and this usually works.
[14:23] <Dr-007> i should note that i installed another os
[14:23] <Dr-007> and also deleted that other os again
[14:23] <Dr-007> hoping that would fix my problem..
[14:23] <Dr-007> i can boot into all other os's
[14:23] <Dr-007> except ubuntu
[14:24] <masterkorp> Hello everyone I have rather an urgent problem at hands, I bough a laptop for my newphew and I am installing linux on it, i got eveything working minus the wirelass card
[14:24] <Dr-007> but it when booting it shows a little hang time on a mount /dev/disk some-uuid but i cant find that uuid when its booted.
[14:24] <Dr-007> so my bet is that the file system is corrupt somewhere
[14:24] <masterkorp> the wireless card its built into the laptop, but its recognized as an usb adator
[14:24] <masterkorp> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:d723 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[14:25] <masterkorp> I have tried compiling and adding thr rt88 driver dkms, but the device still does not get recognized
[14:26] <masterkorp> any suggestion is more than welcome, as it would something that will make him happy
[14:27] <Dr-007> sometimes internal stuff is just connected via usb
[14:27] <Dr-007> like my touchpad in my laptop
[14:27] <Dr-007> itll show up in lsusb
[14:28] <Dr-007> or my integrated webcam
[14:28] <masterkorp> exactly the webcam is also recognized as Usb
[14:28] <masterkorp> and it works fine
[14:28] <masterkorp> but not the wireless card
[14:30] <EriC^^> masterkorp: no recommended driver in 'sudo ubuntu-drivers devices' ?
[14:31] <masterkorp> i have not tried that, just a minute and I will try
[14:31] <EriC^^> Dr-007: are you booted into ubuntu right now?
[14:31] <Dr-007> EriC^^, yeah
[14:32] <Dr-007> but i installed nvidia drivers before checking if theres actually nvidia hardware.. so its running to isntall and i cant stop
[14:32] <Dr-007> but it should make a new kernel
[14:32] <Dr-007> so i hope it fixes it, kinda
[14:32] <EriC^^> Dr-007: type '(cat /etc/fstab /boot/grub/grub.cfg /proc/cmdline; sudo blkid) | nc termbin.com 9999'
[14:33] <masterkorp> EriC^^: nope, nothing
[14:33] <Dr-007> oh noo.. 'W: Operation was interrupted before it could finish' now it recognizes my ctrl+c command
[14:33] <Rumen> Guys anyone can help me with my audio problem?
[14:34] <masterkorp> man I am out of ideas
[14:34] <Dr-007> EriC^^, https://termbin.com/bfdw
[14:35] <EriC^^> masterkorp: type 'lshw -c network | nc termbin.com 9999'
[14:36] <ravage> masterkorp: which kernel are you running?
[14:36] <ravage> (and what Ubuntu version)
[14:38] <EriC^^> Dr-007: looks like the uuid not found is actually the swap partition, 0d37d450-e204-4920-abc3-737495b5608d
[14:38] <Dr-007> yes, 608d is what i remembered
[14:39] <EriC^^> Dr-007: i think the problem has to do with graphics, the grub entries look fine, seems that nomodeset might be helping you boot currently
[14:39] <masterkorp> EriC^^ the only that it detechs its the one I am using connected externally to solve the internet connection https://termbin.com/d2xb
[14:39] <masterkorp> ravage 5.11.0-43-generic
[14:39] <EriC^^> masterkorp: try maybe 'rfkill list'
[14:40] <Dr-007> EriC^^, wierd, the problem occured after installing the other os. so i figured grub was messed up. but reinstalling it didnt help. so it should be something internal. what do you recommend with the graphic driver?
[14:40] <ravage> the device actually looks ok. so rfkill is a good point. maybe there is even a hardware switch?
[14:42] <masterkorp> EriC^^ only detects the bluethooth module
[14:42] <EriC^^> Dr-007: type 'sudo ubuntu-drivers devices' it should show the recommended driver
[14:43] <ravage> masterkorp: it even shows that you have an IP ( 192.168.1.76 )
[14:43] <EriC^^> masterkorp: anything in "dmesg" output regarding it?
[14:44] <EriC^^> ravage: that's his other wifi which he's using temporarily
[14:44] <ravage> oh ok
[14:44] <Dr-007> EriC^^, it shows nothing
[14:44] <EriC^^> what graphics card is it?
[14:45] <Dr-007> `lspci | grep VGA` says 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 (rev 09)
[14:45] <Dr-007> how can i 'restrap' a kernel for grub?
[14:45] <Dr-007> regenerate
[14:47] <Dr-007> hmm, never mind
 masterkorp: it even shows that you have an IP ( 192.168.1.76 )
[14:53] <Dr-007> brb
[14:53] <masterkorp> like I have said that is an external usb I am using at the moment to be able to configure the rest of the laptop and acess the internet
[14:53] <ravage> masterkorp: at least from your USB id this driver may work: https://github.com/ulli-kroll/rtw88-usb
[14:53] <masterkorp> ravage: ohh, let me try
[14:55] <ravage> its also possible that you only need the firmware
[14:55] <ravage> but your kernel log should show that
[14:56] <ravage> something like "journalctl -b|grep firmware" but you may try other search patterns
[14:57] <Dr-007> EriC^^, jeeej, i booted from the normal grub2 ubuntu entry now. not via recovery
[14:58] <Dr-007> now. question, ive got this archlinux id like to install to another partition. but im afraid that ubuntu wont be bootable after i install again.
[14:59] <Dr-007> i once installed bodhi linux too, which is a spinoff of ubuntu
[14:59] <Dr-007> bodhi i installed next to ubuntu and windows
[14:59] <Dr-007> but then grub2 os-prober figured bodhi was ubuntu..
[15:00] <Dr-007> anyway, my question in short: when i target a partition for install of archlinux and manually add a grub entry then nothing should get broken, right?
[15:01] <ravage> Dr-007: multiple OSes trying to configure your bootloader will always cause trouble. if you just want to test some other linux dists i suggedt you use something like virt-manager and test them in a VM
[15:01] <ravage> and yes you should manually add grub entrys if you really need more than one linux
[15:02] <Dr-007> but you think all installation processes of os's mess with the bootloader?
[15:02] <Dr-007> i dont really understand the sda1 partition EFI
[15:02] <ravage> a good installer will not make changes to your bootloader without asking
[15:03] <Dr-007> but most installers wont continue if you dont mount a `/` and a `/boot/efi`, right?
[15:06] <[itchyjunk]> Hi, there is something called `toolbox` that appears on top right next to the wifi and battery icons
[15:07] <[itchyjunk]> I am wondering how i can remove/uninstall that.
[15:07] <[itchyjunk]> It doesn't appear in the Software center -> Installed list
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> [itchyjunk]: one would need to know the name of that package, probably an indicator or gnome extension?
[15:17] <[itchyjunk]> lotuspsychje, i am not sure what it's called. It came along when i was installing pycharm. its a thing i got from jetbrains that let me install the pycharm.
[15:17] <[itchyjunk]> If I click on it i only get 2 options "Open ToolBox, Quit ToolBox"
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> apt-cache doesnt give me pycharm, did you add ppa's or external debs [itchyjunk] ?
[15:19] <[itchyjunk]> Hmm, i'll try to retrace my steps. I followed some random guide on google a while back
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> [itchyjunk]: browse around your dpkg logs?
[15:40] <jhutchins> its_notjack: Open toolbox would suggest further indicators of what it is.
[15:40] <jhutchins> It sounds like an applet or extension to the toolbar.  Have you tried right-clicking on it?
[15:40] <jhutchins> its_notjack: You can use ps ax to see what processes are running.  Maybe you're lucky and one of them is "toolbox".
[16:05] <WickedDekciw> Hola!... I'm trying to extend an exfat partition into unallocated space but gparted nor gnomedisk or kde can do it, any idea?
[16:10] <tomreyn> WickedDekciw: you can try doing it in a terminal using fdisk. you'd need to actually delete the partition and create a new / larger one, starting at the exact same location
[16:10] <tomreyn> since this is obviously a dangerous operation, make sure you have proper backups
[16:11] <tomreyn> resizing the file system should be possible with exfat-utils, i would think (haven't done it, yet)
[16:11] <jhutchins> growe2fs?
[16:11] <jhutchins> Oh, no, you have to expand the partition first.
[16:11] <tomreyn> that's for ext file systems, isn't it
[16:12] <jhutchins> tomreyn: Yeah, exfat, oh well.
[16:12] <tomreyn> actually resize2fs for ext2+
[16:13] <jhutchins> WickedDekciw: The best way to do this is 1) You're going to make a backup anyway if you're messing with partitions.  2) Delete, recreate, format, restore.
[16:13] <tomreyn> There's also the resizepart command in util-linux
[16:13] <WickedDekciw> jhutchins I've already deleted it into unallocated space but gparted is no dice
[16:14] <jhutchins> WickedDekciw: You're not telling us what error you're getting or how it fails.
[16:15] <tomreyn> also which ubuntu release and kernel version you run, could matter, so it's good to always provide this info, too
[16:15] <tomreyn> as well as the partition table type
[16:16] <jkc> WickedDekciw: You said exfat, right? If so, gparted doesn't support growing/shrinking exfat filesystems.
[16:17] <WickedDeckciw> jhutchins It shows no particular error in gparted. It simply greys out anything to do with extending the partition to begin with
[16:17] <WickedDeckciw> jkc Any idea what does, then?
[16:17] <jkc> WickedDeckciw: On linux? As far as I know, there is no existing tool that does.
[16:17] <jkc> exfatprogs doesn't.
[16:18] <WickedDeckciw> jkc I've tried both win and linux and even third-party win tools don't
[16:18] <WickedDeckciw> Which is really strange
[16:18] <jkc> Windows most certainly can.
[16:19] <WickedDeckciw> Not by default. No Windows first-party tool has been able to do it for me.
[16:19] <WickedDeckciw> No third-party tool either.
[16:20] <jkc> Yes, by default. It's part of the disk management snap-in, and I know that AOMEI partition manager can, too. And DiskGenius.
[16:20] <tomreyn> oh, right, there's no resize utility in either the 'new' exfatprogs https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/amd64/exfatprogs/filelist nor the 'old' exfat-utils https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/amd64/exfat-utils/filelist
[16:20] <jkc> tomreyn: Resize support is an unimplemented open issue on the exfatprogs github.
[16:21] <WickedDeckciw> jkc, well then if it does, how?
[16:21] <WickedDeckciw> Maybe I'm  doing it wrong.
[16:22] <tomreyn> try heading over to ##windows for windows support
[16:22] <tomreyn> apparently there is none on linux so far
[16:23] <WickedDeckciw> tomreyn Oh I did, was just told "nobody uses exfat" and adios amigo so I was looking for linux tools
[16:23] <jkc> uh, lots of people use exfat.
[16:24] <WickedDeckciw> jkc You're correct, they just live apparently in their own imaginary bubble where nobody does
[16:30] <tomreyn> looks like the developer who had developed the inital resizing code has been unable to work more on this for the past two years.
[16:33] <jkc> WickedDeckciw: So, the Windows tools honestly suck. DiskGenius can do it, its easy, and its a free download.
[16:33] <jkc> Right click, resize, drag it out to the size, click Start.
[16:34] <WickedDeckciw> jkc I'll try that, thanks!
[16:35] <jkc> And I can personally confirm that it DOES work.
[16:35] <WickedDeckciw> That's music to my ears
[16:36] <tomreyn> let's please focus on ubuntu support on *this* channel, though. it's always fine to (together) move elsewhere for other topics.
[16:36] <jkc> True. I do believe that that topic is closed, though.
[16:36] <jkc> I shall now return to my regularly-scheduled pining for ZFS-on-root in the server installer.
[16:44] <WickedDeckciw> Is there anyway I can clone a live-install to a lager disk without converting it into a full one?
[16:46] <WickedDeckciw> And not clonezilla because that just leaves the rest of the space useless
[16:56] <tomreyn> WickedDeckciw: what's a "live-install"?
[16:56] <tomreyn> oh you mean an ubuntu installer / live iso?
[16:57] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[17:00] <WickedDeckciw> tomreyn yes.. have a live iso with persistent storage on a usb drive, want to copy it to a much larger removable disk and expand the persistence size
[17:21] <mister_m> I have an external keyboard that has the control key all the way in the corner and it is hard to reach. I'd like to swap the control key with the function key on this external keyboard _only_, and not mess with the keys on the physcial laptop itself. Those are fine. Is there any way I can swap keys on this specific external keyboard only?
[17:27] <supercool> How do I access a external disk from terminal?
[17:27] <WickedDeckciw> mister_m xinput list
[17:28] <supercool> I know its a /dev/sda3
[17:29] <john__> mount | grep /dev/sda3
[17:29] <john__> ls -l ...
[17:31] <supercool> thank you john__
[17:33] <supercool> How do I allow privileges to a external disk with another Ubuntu install?
[17:33] <john__> supercool: are sure it's your external drive ? where are your / and /home..
[17:34] <supercool> I am booting from a Ubuntu cd to fix my main HDD
[17:34] <john__> ah okay
[17:34] <mister_m> WickedDeckciw: I just see a "Virtual core XTEST keyboard" and a "xwayland-keyboard:18" as slave kbds under the "Virtual core Keyboard" master -- which is which?
[17:34] <supercool> I did but now I cannot access my user because of privileges
[17:35] <john__> sudo command..
[17:37] <supercool> sudo cd wont work
[17:37] <supercool> I just did sudo su and I am fine, thank you
[17:38] <john__> :)
[17:39] <WickedDeckciw> mister_m whichever is your external board
[17:39] <WickedDeckciw> configure it through xkb I believe
[17:39] <supercool> I got the disk full and when it boot I got the message failed to create new user journal no space left on device
[17:40] <supercool> Now I access it from Ubuntu cd and deleted some files and now the error message is like failed to send host log message
[17:41] <WickedDeckciw> supercool You say you are fixing your main disk. What exactly is its problem?
[17:41] <supercool> WickedDeckciw: it run out of space I think
[17:42] <supercool> I was downloading some stuff and it stoped saying disk was full, then I restared and got this issue
[17:43] <supercool> I did some disk verification with Disk app and removed the files I was downloading and now I got this second error
[17:44] <jkc> supercool: In the future, "sudo -i", not "sudo su."
[17:44] <supercool> jkc: alright
[17:47] <supercool> error: https://imgur.com/estAVBU
[18:28] <tomreyn> supercool: this (second line of text on the screenshot you posted - consider posting text as text in the future instead) is the direct (graphics) rendering manager (DRM) reporting that it was unable to 'send' the vmware graphics driver (vmwgfx) generated log messages to the 'host log'. this doesn't really explain how this failed to to be sent, nor does it hint at file system space allocation causing this issue.
[18:28] <tomreyn> (the line above this is that of a file system check, but this is most likely entirely unrelated)
[18:30] <supercool> tomreyn: yes, I also found this context suport but I think it is unrelated to my situation because everything was working just fine before the disk get full. It happened twice this week. I still can't figure why it is happening.
[18:33] <tomreyn> supercool: that's what logs can help with. (physical) disks don't usually run full, file systems do, and you usually have more than one of those. so the first step should be to fid out which one ran full, how it did, or why, and then how to prevent it from doing that again.
[18:33] <tomreyn> journalctl lets you check system logs, including that of a specific point in time.
[18:35] <supercool> I've used vdi for dinamic ajust
[18:35] <supercool> I will check this command to figure what happened
[18:35] <tomreyn> if the file system the logs are stored on runs full, there is a chance that this will prevent logging to fail (this requires file system space, too), however some file systems would preserve a small fraction of space for things run by root to continue running in such an event.
[18:37] <supercool> The machine didn't just stop working. Now I remember, as I just installed a fresh install, I had to restart after the first updates. Perhaps there is some update that is not working
[18:37] <oerheks> check the size of ~/.xsession-errors ?
[18:37] <tomreyn> WickedDeckciw: i read that mkusb can help create an installer/live usb storage with persistent storage https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/persistent
[18:44] <WickedDeckciw> tomreyn I do have in fact a persistent store. I just want to clone the existing data onto another, different disk/partition, namely occupying then a bigger storage than previous
[19:24] <tomreyn> WickedDeckciw: i see. i'm not sure of all the steps which need to be taken there if you intend to keep it a hybrid (UEFI + BIOS bootable) image.
[19:25] <tomreyn> it probably involves resizing the partition which includes the persistent storage (if that's a partition in your case, otherwise all the layers below the persistent file system)
[19:25] <tomreyn> ... as well as the file system itself
[20:35] <nshirelaptop> so I removed 'quiet splash' from grub2 since I wamted to see kernel output, but it only said "efi-stub: secureboot is enabled"
[20:35] <nshirelaptop> is kernel output disabled with secureboot on?
[20:36] <oerheks> did you run update-grub ?
[20:37] <nshirelaptop> I did that from the grub menu itself
[20:37] <nshirelaptop> it did indeed disable splash so I know it worked
[20:38] <Jeremy31> Are you using efi stub to boot?
[20:38] <oerheks> not sure secureboot surpresses the output
[20:38] <nshirelaptop> Jeremy31, I don't know. I know I have this pc set to uefi-only
[20:43] <nshirelaptop> but presumably I am since it was showing a message from efi-stub
[20:44] <Kuleshov> Merry Christmas
[20:50] <Jeremy31> I just booted Mint 20 with EFI + Secure Boot enabled and it booted fine.  Should try with Ubuntu 20.04
[20:52] <Jeremy31> Do you use Broadcom or Nvidia drivers?
[20:53] <Jeremy31> That shouldn't matter that early in boot and it should just prevent the unsigned module from loading
[20:54] <nshirelaptop> no nvidia, this is an intel only system
[21:03] <supercool> I am trying to mark the badblocks I saved on a file.txt on a troubled pendriver
[21:03] <Jeremy31> nshirelaptop: post URL from terminal for> efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:03] <supercool> Could someone help me figure how to do that please?
[21:05] <linsux> how do i remove unused orphan dependencies
[21:06] <Jeremy31> sudo apt autoremove
[21:06] <oerheks> apt clean or autoremove --purge
[21:06] <supercool> The command I am using is: sudo fsck -l badblocks.txt /dev/sdc1
[21:07] <oerheks> so you saved the list of badblocks that are already marked?
[21:08] <supercool> oerheks: yes, I've used the command badblocks for that and saved it as bad-sectors.txt
[21:09] <oerheks> so you want to mark badblocks that are already marked?
[21:09] <supercool> oerheks: now I want to mark them
[21:09] <oerheks> *hint*
[22:05] <linsux> how do i remove unused orphan dependencies in snap?
[22:06] <jhutchins> !snap
[22:08] <jhutchins> linsux: What's your goal in removing them?
[22:12] <leftyfb> linsux: there are not orphan dependencies in snap. That's the point of snap, everything necessary to run the package is included in the package
[22:32] <jkc> snaps can depend on other snaps, for versioned libraries and runtimes and so forth.
[22:33] <jkc> It may be one of those that is being considered an "orphan."
[23:27] <sem> Bashing-om, hey are you around?
[23:30] <Bashing-om> sem: Yup :D
[23:34] <sem> I'm ready to try installing those drivers again if you're along for the ride. I looked at lshw and got "configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0" among other thigns
[23:34] <sem> I also found this one, but as I've never installed clang I'm not sure it is relevant
[23:34] <sem> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1270324/nvidia-proprietary-drivers-20-04-1-fail-with-dependency-problems
[23:36] <sem> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1346300/dpkg-error-processing-package-nvidia-driver-after-install-ubuntu-20-10?rq=1 this too
[23:36] <Bashing-om> sem: K - The innards of the driver install is above my skill level - but we can give it another whirl. 1st is to insure that the PPA source is available. cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[23:37] <sem> ok
[23:39] <sem> the ppa is in the 2nd one. "tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[23:39] <sem> take a look at that second link I sent, looks like what is happening to me might happen to others too
[23:39] <sem> they had to update gcc
[23:40] <sem> but my gcc is already up to date
[23:41] <Bashing-om> sem: vberify gcc as " gcc/focal 4:9.3.0-1ubuntu2 amd64 " .
[23:41] <Bashing-om> verify*
[23:42] <sem> ok
[23:42] <sem> Installed: 4:9.3.0-1ubuntu2
[23:42] <Bashing-om> sem: dpkg -l gcc
[23:43] <sem> gcc            4:9.3.0-1ubuntu2 amd64
[23:44] <Bashing-om> sem: So far so good . even though we know the system is updated - do it again,Sam ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' . Then we be ready to try try again.
[23:45] <sem> ok
[23:45] <sem> have you seen this reference as well? https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/nvidia-dkms-460-error/173424
[23:46] <sem> ok, ran through the apt updates (it didn't pull anything new in)
[23:49] <Bashing-om> sem: Had not seen the 173424 - Howevef another thoght pops to mind - what desktop are you running - Wayland bt chance ? ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' .
[23:50] <sem> this is what I get: Lubuntu   LXQt
[23:50] <sem> I guess LXQt uses Xorg?
[23:52] <sem> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1906131