[06:12] <OvenWerks> tantalaumera[m]: The first question shouold be: is there any plan to package Cinelerra-GG for debian/ubuntu?
[06:14] <OvenWerks> billytrip[m]: to install studio with any ubuntu flavour, install that flavour first then install ubuntustudio-installer on top of that and run it. select the parts of studio you want from there
[06:15] <OvenWerks> billytrip[m]: I run studio on top of kubuntu 20.04 here
[06:16] <OvenWerks> though I will be looking at installing ubutustudio 22.04 soonish.
[08:16] <byl> hello
[11:10] <billytrip[m]> Ok, I burned a new DVD of 21.10 and tried again.  The error messages this time are different, but the result is the same:
[11:10] <billytrip[m]> "Starting Set console scheme....
[11:10] <billytrip[m]> [FAILED] Failed to start Snap Daemon
[11:11] <billytrip[m]> [FAILED] Failed to start Holds Snappy daemon refresh
[11:11] <billytrip[m]> [FAILED] Failed to start Snap Daemon
[11:12] <billytrip[m]> After those messages, it just freezes.  There must be some hardware it doesn't like or ?????
 "After those messages, it just..." <- Possibly. What are the specs of the machine? 
[11:55] <MoonsofMoons[m]> I also recommend that you try burning to USB rather than DVD, just to eliminate the possibility that your DVD drive is causing issues. Optical media is less reliable in my experience. 
 "billytrip: to install studio..." <- This is also a good option, but I suspect that you may have trouble installing kubuntu 21.10 as you are experiencing with Ubuntu Studio 21.10
[12:20] <MoonsofMoons[m]> * This is also a good option, but I suspect that you may have similar trouble installing kubuntu 21.10 as you are experiencing with Ubuntu Studio 21.10
[14:45] <billytrip[m]> I'm trying the USB now, writing the .iso to a blank thumb drive.  Formatted with FAT, it won't copy the large 4.4 gb file at all.  Format with NTFS it will write the file but it won't boot the iso.  Format with exFAT and it will write the file but also will not boot.  Is there something I'm missing here?
 "Possibly. What are the specs..." <- This is a relatively old I guess Dell Optiplex 7010 with intel i5 16gb ram aftermarket video.
 "This is a relatively old I guess..." <- Should be fine
[18:32] <OvenWerks> billytrip[m]: I normally use dd to write a *.iso to usb. for example: sudo dd if=someiso.iso of=/dev/sdd
[18:33] <OvenWerks> where sdd is the device you _want_ to write to.
[18:33] <OvenWerks> billytrip[m]: to me any i5 is "new"
[18:36] <OvenWerks> but my main machine is a 4 core i5 (asus mother board) and I have not had any trouble.
[18:42] <OvenWerks> also any of the newer studio iso, when they boot will check the iso for errors... I would suggest to not skip this at leasst first boot.
 "billytrip: I normally use dd..." <- I'm trying that right now, that makes sense, I want an image not a file.  On another note, I can only find download iso files with "amd64" in the name.  My main machine where I did the dl is an AMD but the target machine is an intel i5.  I cannot find any iso files that are not "amd64".  I'm getting confused :)
[19:13] <MoonsofMoons[m]> AMD64 just means 64bit. Don't worry that it says AMD
 "AMD64 just means 64bit. Don't..." <- Well the dd seemed to be successful but still won't boot.  
[21:14] <billytrip[m]> At this point I am running out of ideas to try for installing 21.10.  So, I'm willing to punt and live with 20.04 if I can install a reasonable desktop.  I am running gnome on this machine and I like it.  Can  I install it on my new ubuntustudio 20.04 machine?  How?  ununtustudio-installer has only two options, a low latency kernel which I already have and some other thing.  Those are the only two options. Is there a "better"
[21:14] <billytrip[m]> desktop than gnome?  I am partial to niceties like a task bar :)
[21:18] <MoonsofMoons[m]> If you are looking for modern and well  supported, Gnome or KDE are the go-to options. I prefer KDE, but Gnome is quite nice and, like I mentioned before, will be a cleaner switch from xfce because they are both GTK based. 
[21:20] <MoonsofMoons[m]> There are a couple options for installation of Gnome on Ubuntu, but I am not versed in that so I will let others respond. 
[21:33] <rgh> Moons of Moons: now I know where I've seen your name before! 
[21:33]  * rgh sends confetti 🎉
[21:36] <MoonsofMoons[m]> rgh: Hahaha. Well that makes sense. Not too many Linux/Foss music production hangouts on ye ol' Internets
[21:36] <rgh> It's a small world indeed.