=== genii is now known as genii-core [00:34] [telegram] +1 on no email client [00:35] [telegram] document how to install though in manual [00:35] [telegram] and make a HUGE BOLD TEXT section on release notes about not shipping an email client out of the box [00:36] [telegram] also apologies for any typos i make getting used to the new phone keyboard layout [00:38] we may need a few QA release-upgrades to ensure no upgrade issues occur for those who currently use it (maybe an apt-mark is required to have it not be removed on release-upgrade if depends rule with lubuntu-desktop is gone, I don't know... that maybe required if any change done) [00:41] [telegram] what do we ship now, trojita? [00:41] [telegram] yes trojita is what we ship now [00:42] [telegram] and have since lxqt [00:42] yeah (my wording could have been better sorry; but that's usual for me) [00:42] [telegram] yeah but we should also put a notice out that its basically insecure because upstream hasnt done any patching [00:42] [telegram] and we have a glaring hole there per CVEs [00:43] [telegram] we shouldnt remove trojita on upgrade if its there but we shouldnt default ship it either. we have time for some tests. [00:43] time yep. [00:43] [telegram] not a ton of time [00:43] [telegram] but some time [02:42] [telegram] If we drop it from the seed it shouldn't remove it from existing installs. [03:35] i'm not sure you all noticed (this was apparently posted after Rik posted about Trojita here): 'Andi'/'Kartz' has since taken over responsibility to handle the bug as per https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432353 - but this should probably not take influence on your decision making (first response on bug report after ~ a year). [03:35] KDE bug 432353 in trojita "Untagged responses are processed before STARTTLS." [Critical, Unconfirmed] [04:13] thanks tomreyn; it was mentioned (Walter/wxl) in another room where the issue was also discussed [04:14] very well, guiverc. :) === genii-core is now known as genii