| erbth | hi everyone, i have an old ubuntu precise (12.04) installation (i know it should be upgraded/replaced), which does now show that updates are available | 00:31 |
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| erbth | the last time i checked for updates was on 2020-11-30 | 00:31 |
| erbth | for most updates i found USNs (like for the sudo package or linux-image-server) that mention updates even for this outdated release | 00:32 |
| erbth | (the machine has no ESM subscription, but that should not matter for ubuntu precise anymore) | 00:32 |
| erbth | i appreciate the maintainer's work | 00:33 |
| erbth | but for e.g. apache2, i only found this dsa: https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-3937-2 | 00:33 |
| erbth | stating that version 2.2.22-1ubuntu1.15 of the apache2 package was available through a ESM subscription | 00:34 |
| erbth | why can this update be installed in my ubuntu precise installation as of now? | 00:35 |
| erbth | i'm just asking to not accidentally install something wrong (e.g. from a different version) and messing up that installation... | 00:35 |
| erbth | i guess the general question would be: what happens to with the subscriber-only updates when an ubuntu version leaves ESM support? Are some of them uploaded to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/? | 00:39 |
| sbeattie | erbth: yes, when precise went out of ESM status, we incorporated all of the ESM updates into precise-security before moving them to old-releases.ubuntu.com. | 01:21 |
| erbth | sbeattie: that is a nice service from you! | 01:33 |
| erbth | and thank you very much for your response. | 01:33 |
| KBar | Hello. Is gufw sufficient for ordinary home users? | 13:18 |
| tomreyn | If you'll take a non security team member response to this: Having no host firewall at all *can* be sufficient for ordinary home users, and gufw can improve security, or worsen it (by giving a false sense of it, such as when ip forwarding configurations are used). | 13:31 |
| KBar | tomreyn, well, you're certainly many times smarter/experienced than me, so I'd take your response as a positive. thanks | 13:58 |
| tomreyn | i doubt the "smarter" part there. ;) | 14:00 |
| JanC | gufw isn't a particularly good GUI really | 17:57 |
| JanC | unless it got changed a lot since I last looked at it :) | 17:58 |
| JanC | which is a long time ago, I guess | 17:58 |
| JanC | seems like it improved, but still... | 18:02 |
| teward | to be fair a simple home firewall solution is just `sudo ufw enable` | 18:36 |
| teward | which is what gufw's on button does | 18:36 |
| teward | but gufw has a long way to go as its ui is still a meh gui for ufw | 18:37 |
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