=== argonaut_ is now known as argonaut === veemo is now known as veemouse === veemouse is now known as veemo [01:33] when i open a terminal window on my pc i always shrink the text size by two or three presses of "Ctrl+-", what should i google to find what i need to change the window to open at my desired zoom level === veemo is now known as veemouseballs === veemouseballs is now known as veemo [01:38] bob: is only the text in the terminal too large, or is that elsewhere, too? [01:40] only in the terminal-found page directing me to alter the 'exec" field in the user/share/applications-sound advice? [01:40] but to be truthful once i have figured out this one id like to move on to the same with my firefox sessions [01:41] if it's just in the (gnome) terminal, you go edit -> preferences -> profiles -> (the one which is ticked)-> text (tab) -> text appearance (section), click the "custom font" tickbox, set text size to 2 points less or so. [01:42] thank you very much, if you were to do this without a gui what files would you be wanting to edit [01:43] doh, no idea :) probably not files but using gsettings [01:43] eg strictly with gnome terminal and nano/vim/gedit [01:44] all gud thanks for your help +) [01:44] =) [01:44] gnome unfortunately isn't meant to be used by editing text files - i guess you still can, but you're not supposed to [01:45] not trying to be difficult but am genuinely curious-why is that [01:46] is it because gnome/ubuntu is aimed at being not so technical and to be easy to use n intuitive ? [01:47] Ugh I hate samba [01:47] i really do not know the answer why the gnome folks decided a 'registry' would serve things better than just classic flat configuration files which seem to work well for everything else [01:50] this is really interesting and i didn't know gnome had a registry (like windows no?) [01:50] actively googleing but if you know what to search so i can learn more about this please oblige [01:51] specifically when implemented and one vs the other [01:51] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dconf [01:53] =) nice got a few pages to read now ty [01:53] So I setup a samba share on my lil ubuntu server on a pi. I have read only = no and even writable = yes but windows wants to make everything I create read only. I am not sure its on the windows side yet though [01:54] drwxr-xr-x 7 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 Dec 29 22:29 .. [01:54] drwxr-xr-x 2 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 Dec 29 23:08 'Kotlin Course' [01:54] Launchpad bug 4096 in meld (Ubuntu) "meld: merge new debian version" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4096 [01:54] Thats what the shares dir and its sub folder look like permission wise on the linux side === genii is now known as genii-core [02:26] Can anyone look at my entrey at the bottom of this smb.cfg and tell me why I keep getting read-only directories and files when connecting to the share from windows? [02:26] http://sprunge.us/nnObPI [02:27] I created a specific user with adduser --system shareuser shareuser [02:33] Is there any easy way to blur a part of an mkv video? [02:33] Something foss perhaps? [02:39] CINELERRA === M4he is now known as mahe [02:43] blahboybaz, https://itsfoss.com/best-video-editing-software-linux/ [03:21] is there a command to turn ubuntu off in 4 hours time? [03:26] Anyone good with samba stuff, I have this share setup correctly for read write and execute but its still in RDONLY according to smbstatus [03:27] sleep 14400 && shutdown now [03:27] something like that [03:27] smb.conf http://sprunge.us/H1nsID [03:28] sleep 4h && systemctl poweroff yukiup, [03:28] 4h = 14400 seconds? [03:30] $ echo $[ 4 * 60 * 60 ] [03:30] 14400 [03:31] !samba | ProfessorChunk see also [03:31] ProfessorChunk see also: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/samba-introduction [03:31] life would be much easier if everybody spoke English [03:32] lotuspsychje: How is that helpful? I know what samba is.. [03:34] ProfessorChunk: did you read the link properly, maybe it can widen your options? [03:34] ProfessorChunk could always use ssh to transfer files [03:36] Lol no [03:37] I need a network drive I am using this as a NAS so I can access the same project from multiple devices on my home LAN [03:37] Should be simple [03:38] I have the share mounted in Windows but its read only even though my config has it clearly set not to be [04:28] is there a method to create offline installer for apps in my current system, to use on freshly installed ubuntu from same liveusb, on an identical hardware? [04:31] you could backup the entire disk... [04:32] gholarom: While not offline. you might find "debfoster" interesting. - apt show debfoster - [04:37] i will read more on debfoster. i cant really understand it from skimming :P [04:38] i dont really like backup entire disk. because i may need to use different size hdd or partition [04:40] basically, i was looking for windows equivalent of install os, update using offline exe then install apps using offline exe. something along that line [04:48] gholarom: Consider them "apt-offline" . [04:48] then* [04:49] gholarom: I wonder if this works: https://askubuntu.com/questions/30482/is-there-an-apt-command-to-download-a-deb-file-from-the-repositories-to-the-curr [04:51] gholarom: yup. Just tried it out. YOu can download individual .deb files with apt just as you would if you were installing them. Instead of "apt install blah blah", you would type "apt download blah blah" [04:57] i will check on both options to see if it suit my needs. thanks guys :) [04:58] do you know if any of these method can be used to update kernel. like 5.4.1 to 5.4.6 for example [04:59] downloading a .deb file instead of an app will not update your kernal [05:01] gholarom: what the other person said - apt-offline, looks like the better option here [05:01] gholarom: https://itsfoss.com/upgrade-or-update-ubuntu-offline-without-internet/ [05:02] yes. it seems like it. i will try that === leaftype2 is now known as leaftype [05:32] Please help me re openvpn service cant be seen by systemd i think https://pastebin.com/1KmRyzNm [05:41] jehlow: i don't think that's the right way to use openvpn with systemd, you should copy the service file into /etc/openvpn and then use sudo systemctl enable openvpn@servicenamehere [05:41] i recommend starting from scratch and following one of many guides on the net [05:42] servicenamehere is the name of the client config (without .ovpn) [05:43] but I haven't used openvpn in a long time, you should use wireguard instead, it is a billion times easier including the systemd integration. [05:46] I've realised I've been really unclear above - you need to copy the *openvpn* config file into /etc/openvpn and then use sudo systemctl enable openvpn@openvpnconfigfilename. You might get more help on the openvpn support channel #openvpn [05:48] so i would do something like cp ~/Downloads/config ipvanish-US-Atlanta-atl-a46.ovpn /etc/openvpn/openvpn.conf and then run sudo systemctrl enable openvpn@openvpn in my case? [05:49] i think it clear and that i have understood correctly could you confirm please [05:49] and thanks for all so far [05:57] no - i think you would do cp blah /etc/openvpn/ipvanish.conf then sudo systemctl enable openvpn@ipvanish [05:59] thanks il reboot again and find out [06:02] still showing active (exited) =( [06:08] my .ovpn has been renamed to a .conf as follows "cp blah /etc/openvpn/openvpn.conf" so should i use "sudo systemctrl enable openvpn@ipvanish-US-Atlanta-atl-b25" or "sudo systemctrl enable openvpn@ipvanish" [06:09] jehlow: are you running sudo systemctl status openvpn@ipvanish to check the status? [06:10] you can't just use 'status openvpn' because the openvpn systemd service is configured so as to enable you to configure multiple systemd services for different openvpn connections [06:10] * jehlow rolls on the floor with laughter "i love you man" [06:13] jehlow: i gather it's working? [06:14] if it's not, then I suggest trying to configure wireguard instead ... which your vpn provider appears to support. it is much easier. also, it has an integrated killswitch so if the vpn connection drops you don't leak traffic. [06:14] no but im glad the error was explained and i know nowthat said i got this so im still in a place where i think it not working [06:14] https://pastebin.com/Fj66xPiW [06:14] ty [06:15] and your config file is in /etc/openvpn/ipvanish.conf? [06:15] yes [06:16] might try again from a live boot [06:16] see if anything changes when i start from scratch [06:17] my config file is call openvpn.conf and was made from ipvanish .ovpn file placed into that location /etc/openvpn/openvpn.conf [06:18] typo call called/named [06:18] i think you need to check the openvpn log to see why its failing [06:18] but you're further than before [06:19] maybe try sudo journalctl -xe [06:19] or tail -20 /var/log/openvpn.log [06:23] https://pastebin.com/YfzL1zWG [06:25] lots of mentions of Dec 30 14:24:40 bettypc systemd[1]: openvpn@ipvanish.service: Failed with result 'exit-code' [06:27] do you think its because my .conf file isnt named ipvanish.conf(its called openvpn.conf) [06:27] its where it should be in /etc/openvpn [06:28] it needs to be called ipvanish.conf - it doesn't really matter what you call it, but you must have the same name for the systemd service you enable. [06:28] you have run systemctl enable openvpn@ipvanish, so it follows that the config file must be called ipvanish.conf. [06:29] if you called it openvpn.conf, you'd need to run systemctl enable openvpn@openvpn which starts to get confusing [06:29] feeling a bit stupid, i do appreciate your explainations [06:29] you also don't need to reboot yet, just check you can start the connection with sudo service openvpn@ipvanish start then check sudo systemctl status openvpn@ipvanish [06:30] if it comes up, you can check if start-on-boot is working as expected [06:33] there's no need to feel stupid, it's not trivial stuff. but it is a lot easier than the old days of init scripts. : ) [06:37] i think its sorted man, thats correct right? [06:37] https://pastebin.com/v24aKtCN [06:38] simmering with anticipation here but im feeling like you sir are a bloody legend! === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [06:41] i'd be more interested to see the status output of openvpn@ipvanish [06:50] Why would a network interface be disabled? [06:51] I didn't change anything [06:53] Well I had a power loss. Some problem happened with the root fs. I had to reboot using force fsck [06:53] Now the damned box's network is disabled. [06:54] mjt, https://pastebin.com/v24aKtCN [06:54] sorry zoned out reading about systmd [06:57] OH god damn [06:57] will repaste in a min [06:58] https://pastebin.com/BsLPY7wn [06:59] looks like its working to me [06:59] svm_invictvs, in my experience as much information pasted to share helps see whats going on to get an answer and be patient or provide more information [06:59] betty_, I figured it out. [07:00] love your work mjt svm_invictvs please share it with us all [07:00] just be aware that if the connection falls over you will probably leak your ip address [07:01] betty_, tldr is that I'm running it in a vm. Something I did changed the name of the virtual network interface. /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml had the wrong interface name. [07:01] glad its working for you and thanks for sharing [07:02] mjt can you suggest a way to monitor the connection live [07:02] no i can't, it's one of many reasons I switched to wireguard. is there a reason you're tied to openvpn? [07:03] its all i know and from what i read it is long track record of working with lots of support but i will have a read about wireguard and ipvanish [07:03] thanks so much for all your guidance and help [07:04] and especially explaining the nuances [07:04] no problem [07:05] im on ipvanish's page and it lists no support for linux and wireguard what did you google to learn mjt [07:06] Never mind, I found a page that says "The WireGuard protocol is only available for use in our VPN app". Nonsense. [07:07] . [07:15] so an option is run my own ubuntu server install wireguard configure connect(read read read lol) save a da money [07:16] do you run your own vpn or use a service; is setup keeping in mind security difficult of both server and wire guard-or just a matter of keep it updated and basic housekeeping on the server side (the vpn machine) [07:19] hello [07:19] I want sleep [07:19] sorry [07:25] betty_: there are many vpn providers who offer wireguard capability. As a matter of fact I do run my own wireguard vpn server, but I don't use it for anonymity purposes. [07:26] it's a lot easier to set up a wireguard server on ubuntu than setting up an openvpn server, that's for sure. [07:27] i just want a little more security not anonymity i assume that is not really possible-fair assumption? [07:28] my understanding is that anonymity isnt really a thing-more of a fantasy [07:29] that said things like vpn can add layers of security to my online habbits [07:29] no cleartext a tunnel and diff ip address [07:30] i know you know about this kinda stuff from helping me so your thoughts are appreciated and being corrected where i am wrong [07:33] i think the jury's out on the extent vpn providers protect your privacy/security - they do if you have a good provider. [07:33] 大家好 [07:34] ？？？ [07:36] yes [08:13] Hi. How do I fix a broken sources.list? [08:13] Forza: pastebin the file [08:13] !paste [08:13] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [08:14] I want to upgrade from 20.10 to 21.94 lts and do-release-upgrade complains about no valid sources.list entry found [08:15] Forza: type 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999' === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [08:17] https://dpaste.com/C4TPQQ7PR [08:17] that file is for Ubuntu 20.04 [08:18] :) how can I download a new one? [08:18] i would wait until Ubuntu 22.04 comes out and upgrade to that [08:18] Lsb_release -d : Description: Ubuntu 20.10 [08:18] ooookay [08:19] that really should not happen [08:19] Interesting. When is 22.04 out? [08:19] 22 <- year, 04 <- month [08:19] Is there a place to download the correct sources.list? [08:19] are you sure you are on 20.10 ? [08:20] :D ah. I do not want to wait 4 months. I have a windows of opportunity to fix things today :) [08:20] Forza: you could run "sudo sed -i 's/focal/groovy/' /etc/apt/sources.list" [08:21] Forza: has that box been upgraded since 15.10? [08:21] what does 'cat /etc/issue' give? [08:21] ducasse: probably. It is many years old [08:21] i would consider a fresh install soon, tbh [08:21] EriC^^: Ubuntu 20.10 \n \l [08:22] from 20.10 you will have to do more than one update [08:22] Forza: ok run that command, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [08:22] ducasse: yea but it is a printer server used in prod so I prefer to "fix" it back to lts level instead of a new install [08:22] EriC^^: didn't work. https://dpaste.com/EPSBAT5L8 === Bencraft51 is now known as Bencraft [08:23] I suppose I can install a 20.10 server and copy the sources.list? [08:24] for a print server i would install 20.04 and update next year [08:24] i does not make sense to use a non LTS release as a print server [08:25] and you your sources file does not work because 20.10 is already EOL [08:26] you have to make another change to that [08:26] Ah. OK makes some sense. [08:26] i would really recommend to copy your config files for the print server and install a fresh version of 20.04 [08:26] Yes. You are right. :) [08:27] OK I'll do that and try to copy the cups config over [08:27] maybe just do a full backup first [08:27] or put a fresh HDD in [08:27] dont know if you have access to hardware [08:28] I do have backups. It's all virtualised too so easy to test out on snapshots, like I did now. [08:28] thats great :) [08:28] stay on the LTS path :D [08:28] Question. Should I use the cloudimage release or a plain server release [08:29] http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/daily/server/focal/current/ [08:29] i never really learned to love cloud init so i always use the server installer [08:30] actually i dont even use that. use the mini.iso for 20.04 :D [08:30] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/netboot/mini.iso [08:30] i really like this one. works great :) [08:34] Forza: use the server image, you should be able tomore or less copy the cups config straight across [08:36] Thanks for all the help. I'll let you know how it's going [08:44] Hi there! I just got a brand new local server-workstation built and installed Ubuntu on it. I'm planning to set it up so that it'd have NAS-type local file sharing features in it. Is the ZFS file system currently recommended to be used if you want to be sure your data is safe, since at least the Ubuntu installer stated it's still an experimental [08:44] feature ... ? [08:47] I've read quite a bit on the ext4fs and ZFS error/fault tolerances, possible caveats and whatnot (from what I've read, ext4 would have possible data rot issues in it whereas ZFS is said to be more "resilient" or whatever against that), but all talk on the subject seems to dissolve into opinionated back and forths ... [08:51] nuxer: yes. ZFS and Btrfs has data checksums that they verify all reads against. If you use raid1 or higher they will self-heal from bitrot and similar errors. Just note that they require a little more maintenance compared to ext4 [08:54] Hello. My laptop runs Ubuntu 20.04 (w/o Windows) and it terribly overheats when the lid is closed. I've tried to set suspend=True from gnome-tweaks. yet this happens, what could be the fix? Why is suspend unable to terminate all the application? [08:57] ApostleInTriumph: so, does it actually suspend or not? [09:11] Oh how annoying, ubuntu server installer did not create a default subvolume for btrfs =(. Is it possible to create a custom layout and mount points? === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [09:15] Hello. My laptop runs Ubuntu 20.04 (w/o Windows) and it terribly overheats when the lid is closed. I've tried to set suspend=True from gnome-tweaks. yet this happens, what could be the fix? Why is suspend unable to terminate all the application? [09:28] ApostleInTriumph: to suspend then look at /var/log/syslog to see the log [09:29] EriC^^ https://dpaste.com/3NMZLANUN [09:31] ApostleInTriumph: i'd try to use the acpi_osi stuff in grub, 1 sec [09:32] ApostleInTriumph: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i 'windows ' [09:32] get the latest windows in the list, then type 'sudo nano /etc/default/grub' [09:33] then modify the line so its GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 20XX\"" replacing XX with your latest windows in the list [09:34] save then run 'sudo update-grub' and give restart the pc [09:35] EriC^^ I see Windows versions, but what are they supposed to mean? [09:36] My laptop just has Ubuntu w/o windows [09:36] (single boot) [09:36] yeah it relates to acpi, just take the newest one on the list, and use it in grub [09:36] it's so ubuntu pretends to be windows to the bios iirc, so acpi works better [09:38] EriC^^ should I change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT ? [09:40] EriC^^ I get this error when trying to update the grub `usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 35: /etc/default/grub: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution` [09:40] nah not needed [09:40] ApostleInTriumph: type 'cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999' [09:40] https://termbin.com/gif7 [09:42] ApostleInTriumph: add a " at the end of the line [09:42] so its \"" [09:43] EriC^^ thanks! [09:43] no problem [09:47] I have 8GB of the following messages in my syslog gnome-shell[16104]: [16149:16161:1230/073537.385640:ERROR:socket_posix.cc(96)] CreatePlatformSocket() failed: Address family not supported by protocol (97) [09:47] Does anyone know how I can resolve it, please? === orange1 is now known as oldprogram [10:06] ApostleInTriumph sorry i got disconnected [10:07] EriC^^_ no worries, I'm still waiting forsomething to finish before the restart [10:07] thanks for checking back [10:07] alright [10:32] Hello, I'm having ram issues again. 25871 used, 32048 total and that's after earlyoom came and killed ferdi, baobab that has been working for the entire night and heroic games launcher. I'm pretty bummed, cause other than said apps I pretty much only have rtorrent, firefox, dropbox, hexchat and some fish terminals running. How do I figure out where did mem go? [10:33] here's my processes using system monitor: https://imgur.com/a/IeW7RA3 [10:33] it doesn't look like it'd add up to 25 GB to me [10:35] https://www.linuxatemyram.com/ either this is not the case, or my early-oom setting cause oom to act before linux decides to actually free up the cache? [10:37] the only configuration I seem to have for earlyoom seems to be 'EARLYOOM_ARGS="-r 3600"' and the only reason I even have earlyoom installed is because I've been getting visits from OOM killer before [10:37] So I don't think that's that [10:46] barnaba[m]: am i correct the memory issues is only in an app? outisde of that one app, other apps have their ram correctly managed by ubuntu? if so, i don't c how this can be related to ubuntu. [10:47] weedmic: at this point I don't understand what is hogging all my memory. I've found this question: https://serverfault.com/questions/670423/linux-memory-usage-higher-than-sum-of-processes seems like the guy knows a lot more than me. Running his commands (rn I don't really know what they do) seems like most of my memory is used as 'kernel dynamic memory', so I'm researching that. [10:48] https://pastebin.com/v0prgjP4 here's my outputs anyway [10:49] if it was a program I was running I'd expect it to be in userspace memory, correct? [10:50] so it seems the kernel is using 18.6 GB of ram for noncache purposes, which seems like a lot [10:51] but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm reading this wrong [10:55] Last time I did this killing all the userspace apps I know of (this is a bit problematic cause no IRC and no googling for answers obviously) only freed a few gigs, [10:55] (and that killing also included restarting the Xorg and gdm) [11:02] barnaba[m] , top, htop etc. should provide you with the application hogging the most memory, you can sort that list, so does ps [11:06] ramblebamble: I don't think it's processes eating that memory though, summing rss output from ps I get only 16 GB, so there's at least 10 GB missing https://rentry.co/rnft7/raw ? [11:08] barnaba[m], use htop ... then sort by "RES" ... [11:13] ogra_: yes this shows the highest mem users (obviously firefox). But even when I kill every gui app and leave only the small demons running (entire invidious docker container uses less than 100 MB) I still get only 12/32 GB ram available, so for the third time, I doubt that's processes [11:13] * barnaba[m] uploaded an image: (266KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/nKKmmhqajsFBuyPOwDbMTiAD/image.png > [11:13] ^here's a screenshots from when I killed everything again just to check [11:14] and sure I can kill invidious to free up 168 MBs of ram and go kill the next app too, but that doesn't help at all, cause most of my ram is still gone, and I have no useful apps running [11:16] please read more than just the last diagnostic when replying cause I feel like we're getting nowhere. I think the 'kernel dynamic memory' using 21.8 G is the real issue here, not some programs I might be running [11:17] barnaba[m], first of all go into htop settings and turn off "display userland threads" to make the htop screen actually readable ... second i dont see where "most of your ram" is occupied ... yu seem to be running a desktop session and docker ... together they appear to be eating 8G of your 32G [11:18] ogra_: "together they appear to be eating 8G of your 32G" - yet free only shows 12 GB available out of 32 GB total, and my understanding is that available already includes the possibility of freeing up some caches [11:19] free shows all cahed data etc [11:19] (and buffers) [11:20] linuxatemyram.com says that available column already includes that [11:20] "To see how much ram your applications could use without swapping, run free -m and look at the "available" column" [11:20] free is really not the tool to show you physically used ram without extra math ... [11:20] htop does show this [11:23] barnaba[m] https://linux-mm.org/Drop_Caches [11:24] the TL;DR version of that link is try echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches and check again [11:27] "free is really not the tool to..." <- Ok, I think you're correct. Managed to make a 15G ramdisk and fill it with /dev/zero despite free showing only 10G available. [11:28] well then, in the current state of the system there's nothing more to debug I think. I'll try doing some htop next time OOM killer comes. [11:29] I may have missed some messages, as I got disconnected [11:29] On Ubuntu 20.04, I have 8GB of the following messages in my syslog gnome-shell[16104]: [16149:16161:1230/073537.385640:ERROR:socket_posix.cc(96)] CreatePlatformSocket() failed: Address family not supported by protocol (97) [11:29] Does anyone know how I can resolve it, please? [11:33] Heh, I've had simmilar (likely the exact same) message from chrome or chromium and couldn't resolve it, ended up switching to not use it :| [11:39] barnaba[m], yeah, I assumed it was chrome. I don't really want to switch, tbh [11:40] barnaba[m], can you remember if you've ever tried to disable ipv6 on your system? I've read that it may be caused by that, but I reenabled ipv6, but it didn't resolve it [11:41] I ended up switching because of how difficult this was to debug. It'd only occur once per few weeks or so, so it was very hard to remember what I did and what ended up working. Sorry [11:42] barnaba[m], no worries, and thanks. Hopefully someone else will have some ideas [11:43] A second question I have - how do I make user applications (discord, vlc, obs, etc) by default log to a file other than syslog, so I don't have to explicitly create a filter for each app? [11:55] i maintain a Python package, and have had reports about how it behaves on a FIPS-enabled system. I'm trying to get access to such a system for experimentation. Can I run a docker image of Ubuntu with FIPS? [12:18] nedbat: https://www.ubuntu-server.com/ubuntu/how-to-develop-linux-applications-for-fips-on-ubuntu/ [12:19] ravage: thanks. will that work in a Docker container on my Mac? [12:19] i dont think so. you need a VM [12:20] but just try it [12:21] i dont own any apple products so im the wrong person to ask === alchemist_ is now known as alchemist [12:24] ravage: ok, thanks [12:32] Hi there [12:34] I have a a slow windows machine with 4gb of ram and i3 cpu and i want to instyall the light lubuntu alongside windows [12:35] Help. Just installd lubuntu 22.04 to do some testing. I installed the latest kernel with 'mainline' using this ppa :$ sudo apt-add-repository -y ppa:cappelikan/ppa [12:35] i am about to download the " lubuntu-16.04.6-desktop-i386.iso " is it good idea to install ubuntu 32bit in a 64bit machine ?? PLEASE HELP!! [12:35] Guest83 : Lubuntu is not really light anymore. Try xububru [12:36] xubuntu [12:36] now I am missing kernel headers.. any idea how to get them ? Or if the kernel update I did was the proper way ? [12:37] !next | void09 [12:37] void09: Jammy Jellyfish is the codename for Ubuntu 22.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. [12:37] I am really pulling my hairs here and would go back to arch linux, but this script i wanna test only works on ubuntu LTS sigh [12:37] no no, I have Ubuntu 20.04 [12:38] ravage; ok what about installing 32bit in a 64bit machine is it gonna be problematic [12:38] I just wanted to put the latest kernel on it [12:39] Guest83: that's not a problem [12:42] So. how to install kernel hearders for 5.15 please ? [12:42] ravage : i had good experience with Desktop image for 32-bit PC (i386) computers (standard download) [12:42] in the same machine before also i am familiar with how to install it as a dual boot with windows, should i go with Lubuntu instead ? [12:42] $ uname -r [12:42] $ apt search linux-headers-$(uname -r) [12:42] I did this and no results [12:44] void09, if you want a newer kernel than the original one, use the HWE stack, if you use some randomly hacked up kenel from some PPA (that is most likely missing the ubuntu patch set and config defaults), that is really not supportable here and you shuld ask the PPA owner [12:44] HWE stack ? Can I have a link for it ? [12:44] !hwe | void09 [12:44] void09: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [12:45] it's really confusing with ubuntu, you google how to do something and get all kinds of random pages, some outdated garbage [12:45] welcome to the internet [12:45] well, thats the internet ... not really an ubuntu issue [12:45] hah, *snap* [12:46] ravage:? [12:47] Guest83: im not sure what the question is really [12:47] if you like lubuntu, install it. [12:48] ravage: i had good experience with Desktop image for 32-bit PC (i386) computers (standard download)in the same machine before also i am familiar with how to install it as a dual boot with windows, should i go with Lubuntu instead [12:49] ravage: ok thanks could yoou advise me with tutorial on how to install it alongside windows is this how to accurate, https://www.lifewire.com/install-lubuntu-16-04-windows-10-4037894 [12:50] Guest83: the installer should give you that option i think. but i have never installed lubuntu beside windows. i know that the ubuntu installer supports it. [12:51] Guest83, dont use 16.04 though, unless you are after paying canonical for support (16.04 is in paid support mode) [12:52] ravage; also i wont find problems with this lubuntu-16.04.6-desktop-i386.iso version for exemple not supporting certain apps like chromium browser or firefox ... [12:52] as ogra_ said. dont install 16.04 [12:52] and if you consider to ever upgrade that system once a new release comes out and an old one goes EOL, you should also rater use the 64bit version ... 32bit support got dropped in 2018 [12:53] if you want a system that you can upgrade get https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/20.04.3/release/lubuntu-20.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso [12:53] (18.04 is the last Ubuntu wih 32bit (i386) support) [12:53] i dont know how well that system works with 4GB of RAM. thats why i recommended xubuntu [12:53] lubuntu 20.04 is still very lightweight, i revived a 2gb netbook with it, any older release didnt like before [12:54] i guess chromium alone will eat 2GB of it :D [12:54] ok as i said i have an old machine with windows fullof important windows files and i want to staill make use of the machine with lubuntu just to brose the web and check emails and do some libreoffice word or sheets what do you advice me to install my machine is 64bit 4g ram i3 cpu [12:54] falkon to the rescue [12:55] !info falkon | ravage [12:55] ravage: falkon (3.1.0+dfsg1-11, impish): lightweight web browser based on Qt WebEngine. In component universe, is optional. Built by falkon. Size 2,340 kB / 11,220 kB. (Only available for amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, mipsel.) [12:55] Guest83: why not spend $10 on 4gb stick of RAM and install whatever you want ? [12:55] ravage: i prefer an LTS version [12:55] lotuspsychje: thanks. my 32Gb desktop runs firefox just fine :D [12:55] heh [12:56] Guest83: ok. so 20.04 is perfect for you [12:57] ogra_ :ok as i said i have an old machine with windows fullof important windows files and i want to staill make use of the machine with lubuntu just to brose the web and check emails and do some libreoffice word or sheets what do you advice me to install my machine is 64bit 4g ram i3 cpu [12:57] ravage : ogra agrees? ok then [12:57] Guest83: install lubuntu 20.04 LTS 64bit and be happy ;) [12:57] Guest83, the iso from the last link ravage gave above [12:57] Guest83, and back up your windows files first 😉 [12:58] no backup. no mercy. as always :) [12:58] yeah [12:59] and thats just a generel advice, independent of what distro you install ... you can always make a mistake or hit some bug, no matter if you install fedora, ubuntu arch or whatnot ... [12:59] general [12:59] my clipboard doesnt copy images [13:00] ravage, ogra: sure i will be carefull while doing the dual boot install thanks i will go with this version [13:00] Or, your harddrive could fail. [13:00] Hi. I am on 20.04 LTS and I'd like to get a newer btrfs-progs. How can I do this? [13:12] Forza: !backports !snaps [13:15] Ok so I tried to install linux 5.15 latest using the mainline package.. but its linux-headers seem to depend on libssl3 (>= 3.0.0 ~~alpha1) [13:15] which it says is not isntallable. any way around this? [13:15] on lubuntu 20.04 [13:16] lotuspsychje:? [13:16] !backports [13:16] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [13:16] void09: use a pastebin please, so volunteers can see whats going on with apt exactly [13:17] void09, the mainline kernels are also missing the ubuntu patches and some configs, they are not for production use, just for bug triage [13:17] I can't really copy paste from this VM, since linux guest is not installed.. cause it fails because of the kernel headers problem [13:17] I will take a screenshot [13:18] * ogra_ points to https😕/wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds .... "These kernels are not supported and are not appropriate for production use." ... [13:18] bah, silly emoji plugin ... [13:19] Haha. :D [13:19] use the HWE kernels as advised before ... [13:19] !hwe | void09 adviced by ogra_ [13:19] void09 adviced by ogra_: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [13:20] https://pastebin.com/raw/Qbmnic8H [13:20] Hey everyone. I don't need no Bluetooth. It (Blueman and bluetooth.service) keeps popping up. How do I get rid of it altogether? [13:22] KBar: systemctl disable [13:23] Seems no backports of btrfs-progs [13:23] KBar: stacer is also pretty cool to manage services [13:23] Forza: btrfs-progs 0.6.0 tequilabumbum74 - A snap for btrfs tools (snap) [13:24] Latest version is 5.15.x, focal contains 5.4 [13:24] Forza, there is a snap, but it had no stable release yet so your mileage may vary [13:24] 0.60 seems ooold [13:24] ravage: does it survive updates? [13:24] Yea. I don't like snap anyways :D [13:24] any reason ? [13:24] hello can someone please have some time to walk me through formatting the newly bought external hard drive and set encyption on it [13:24] KBar: yes [13:25] webchat37: https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/encrypt-usb-drive-on-ubuntu/ this should still be a valid guide [13:26] ogra_: I ran those commands, but it still seems to install kernel 5.4 [13:27] makes no difference to me if i run 5.4-ubuntu or 5.4-generic [13:27] void09, "thos commends" ??? just install the hwe kernel package [13:27] HOW ? [13:27] sudo apt install --install-recommends linux-generic [13:27] I ran this [13:27] there are no other "commands" but apt install of the correct package name [13:28] sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-20.04 [13:29] ravage: Awesome. I actually thought maybe I could disable the kernel module. But that's unnecessarily drastic, I guess. [13:29] A bit too radical. [13:29] ogra_: says it's aready the newest version, 5.11 [13:29] !info stacer | KBar [13:29] KBar: stacer (1.1.0+ds-1, impish): Linux system optimizer and monitoring. In component universe, is optional. Built by stacer. Size 604 kB / 1,358 kB [13:30] lotuspsychje: thanks. Will have a closer look. [13:30]