[00:00] <berwin> leftyfb: Ok i will try
[00:01] <eflister1> is there an irc channel specialized to grub/boot-repair etc?
[00:02] <eflister1> would #ubuntu-boot be appropriate for me to try?
[00:04] <eflister1> ha ha there are 2 other people there, we'll see...
[00:11] <berwin> leftyfb: Solved, thanks
[00:27] <Nobrem> hi
[00:28] <Nobrem> Does anyone of you guys have experience with "ffmpeg"'s filter_complex and timestamps?
[00:28] <Nobrem> I would like to re-format a timestamp that is dynamically being added
[00:28] <Nobrem> something like:  "1 hour and 22 minutes" would be nice
[00:28] <Nobrem> currently,  I just get a really long line of seconds
[00:29] <Nobrem> https://dpaste.org/66UK
[00:30] <Blade-Runner> oops, hit the wrong keys
[00:31] <eflister1> Jeremy31, oerheks, ramblebamble, leftyfb, EriC^, thanks for all your help, i really appreciate it.  unless anyone has any more ideas, i'm gonna take a break.  if you think of anything or could direct me to someone you recommend talking to, could you let me know?  i've got this issue posted at
[00:31] <eflister1> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2470507&p=14073470#post14073470 and https://askubuntu.com/questions/1384496/boot-hangs-at-grub-prompt-instead-of-grub-menu
[00:36] <ELQEYNN> I understand that SuSE Alienware has trouble with WiFi.
[01:01] <Aarch64debian> !kernel
[02:13] <TaZeR> i heard ubuntu is moving to the windows kernel, is this true?
[02:17] <JackFrost> ...Windows kernel?
[02:17] <JackFrost> Ubuntu uses Linux, because it's a linux distro.  WSL offers Ubuntu though.
[02:25] <rwinner> Yes I heard that too. Supposedly they're also bringing back the BSOD, to be renamed the USOG, the Ubuntu Screen of Gloom.
[02:31] <JackFrost> Is this April or something?  Did someone change the calendar on me?
[02:47] <dman777> how can I do a fsck on ubuntu upon boot up? using 20.04 server ed. I tried touch /forcefsck but it does not work
[02:53] <Bashing-om> dman777: ' fsck.mode=force ' as a kernel parameter.
[02:54] <dman777> Bashing-om: thanks
[02:55] <Bashing-om> dman777: :D
[02:55] <Nobrem> could anyone please help me?
[02:55] <Nobrem> I have a command that works,  but it shouldn't work
[02:55] <Nobrem> the fact that it works goes back more to trial an error,  rather than anything else
[02:55] <Nobrem> https://dpaste.org/5vJP
[02:56] <Nobrem> the video is sped up 15x  (time lapse) so that's why the CONST value is 240 rather than 3600
[02:56] <Nobrem> 3600 / 15 = 240
[02:56] <Nobrem> so, the "hour" timestamp should change once every 4 minutes
[02:56] <Nobrem> however, the _seconds_ timestamp changes.
[02:56] <Nobrem> why?!
[02:58] <leftyfb> Nobrem: I think your question should be directed at the ffmpeg project
[02:59] <Nobrem> leftyfb, in #ffmpeg there has only been 1 person actively chatting,  and they seam to have left
[02:59] <Nobrem> leftyfb, I have been there for the better part of today
[02:59] <leftyfb> Nobrem: it's New Years day. You're probably not going to get a whole lot of activity on IRC today
[02:59] <leftyfb> Nobrem: and a weekend
[03:00] <Aarch64debian> my systemd says it boots in 23s, is it slow
[03:00] <Aarch64debian> i use a 400m/s ssd
[03:01] <leftyfb> Aarch64debian: (cat /etc/os-release  ; uname -a ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[03:09] <Bashing-om> Aarch64debian: Aarch64debian: sysop@2004x-c:~$ systemd-analyze >> Startup finished in 2.841s (kernel) + 11.398s (userspace) = 14.240s ; graphical.target reached after 11.375s in userspace .
[03:10] <Aarch64debian> what is your disk io speed
[03:11] <Bashing-om> Aarch64debian: No idea - never had a reason to find out .
[03:12] <Aarch64debian> my kernel is 7s usespace 15s
[03:12] <dman777> I set my ethernet device with a manual ip in /etc/netplan. ifconfig shows it correctly at net apply. However, I do not have connection to the internet. I noticed the netmask shows 255.255.255.0 instead of 255.255.255.255. where would I fix that?
[03:12] <Bashing-om> !netplan | dman777
[03:13] <leftyfb> dman777: why would you want 255.255.255.255?
[03:13] <dman777> leftyfb: that is what worked on my old system. what is wrong with 255.255.255.255?
[03:14] <leftyfb> dman777: that is the netmask for a network with exactly 1 usable ip address
[03:14] <leftyfb> dman777: if you have no intention of communicating with anything else on your network, I guess that's fine
[03:15] <leftyfb> dman777: what version of ubuntu is this that you have netplan and ifconfig?
[03:15] <dman777> leftyfb: 20.04 server edition
[03:16] <leftyfb> dman777: was it upgraded from a previous version?
[03:16] <dman777> leftyfb: no, new install
[03:16] <dman777> leftyfb: switching from gentoo to ubuntu
[03:17] <dman777> leftyfb: I can not ping 8.8.8.8 ether
[03:17] <leftyfb> dman777: did you manually install net-tools or ifupdown?
[03:18] <dman777> yes
[03:18] <leftyfb> dman777: which one?
[03:18] <dman777> leftyfb: net-tools
[03:19] <leftyfb> dman777: how many files are in /etc/netplan/ ?
[03:19] <dman777> leftyfb: juse one.... 00-installer-config.yml which I modified with my own info
[03:20] <leftyfb> dman777: ok, can you paste it to a pastebin site?
[03:20] <dman777> leftyfb: I will need to manually type it.... one min please
[03:21] <leftyfb> dman777: why?
[03:21] <leftyfb> oh, no network, right
[03:21] <dman777> I am on my laptop for irc :)
[03:21] <leftyfb> can you ssh to the machine at all?
[03:21] <dman777> no
[03:22] <leftyfb> dman777: a picture also helps
[03:25] <dman777> leftyfb: https://dpaste.org/jOi2 if it is ok, I masked the last 2 octects
[03:25] <dman777> with the x.x
[03:25] <dman777> Only for the paste.... I actually have numbers there in the real file
[03:26] <leftyfb> dman777: can you ping your gateway?
[03:27] <dman777> leftyfb: no I can not
[03:27] <leftyfb> dman777: /sys/class/net/
[03:27] <leftyfb> dman777: ls /sys/class/net/
[03:27] <leftyfb> what's in there?
[03:28] <dman777> leftyfb: ah! just got it working... I had to change 24 to 32 in 192.168.x.x/24
[03:28] <dman777> leftyfb: oh wait
[03:28] <dman777> leftyfb: nevermind...that was gmail being cached
[03:28] <MrCollinsGA> Why would you want to use 255.x.x.255
[03:28] <leftyfb> that is not correct
[03:29] <MrCollinsGA> can you change it to 255.x.x.0 or /24
[03:29] <dman777> +1
[03:29] <leftyfb> dman777: a /32 or 255.255.255.255 means 1 ip on the entire network not communicating with anything else. I don't see any case where you'd want that
[03:29] <leftyfb> dman777: ls /sys/class/net/   # what is in there?
[03:29] <dman777> leftyfb: yep.... still no internet connection
[03:30] <leftyfb> wait, gmail?
[03:30] <leftyfb> dman777: I thought you said this was a server
[03:30] <leftyfb> dman777: is there a desktop environment installed on it at all?
[03:30] <dman777> yes... I installed X
[03:30] <leftyfb> dman777: gnome?
[03:30] <leftyfb> dman777: also, why?
[03:30] <MrCollinsGA> dman777, is the ip of the machine static or dhcp in your routers table?
[03:31] <dman777> leftyfb: min gui environment
[03:31] <leftyfb> dman777: please see my above 2 requests
[03:31] <dman777> leftyfb: /sys/class/enp37s0 and also lo
[03:31] <leftyfb> dman777: cat /etc/sys/class/net/enp37s0
[03:31] <leftyfb> dman777: cat /etc/sys/class/net/enp37s0/operstate
[03:32] <dman777> up
[03:32] <dman777> internet was working before I modified it and set a manual ip addresss
[03:32] <leftyfb> dman777: ip a |grep inet
[03:33] <leftyfb> dman777: which ip's do you see there?
[03:35] <dman777> inet 127.0.0.1/8 ::1/128 192.168.x.x/24 brd 192.168.x.255 scope global enp37s0 and then a inet6 address that is really long
[03:35] <leftyfb> yeah, you've still got 255.255.255.255
[03:36] <leftyfb> dman777: reboot
[03:36] <leftyfb> dman777: and make sure /24 and 255.255.255.0 are in your netplan
[03:37] <MrCollinsGA> leftyfb, can you direct me to a tutorial to syncing folders in ubuntu from nfs share. not sure how to ask google that. I cant seem to find any. It may be simpler then I make it.
[03:37] <leftyfb> MrCollinsGA: rsync
[03:37] <MrCollinsGA> k
[03:38] <MrCollinsGA> thanks. what I discovered is I have to get into using 'melt' and I can do command line stuff. Your link above was awesomely helpful. I have been at this all day! :)
[03:38] <MrCollinsGA> terminal encoding instead of 'stuff' lol
[03:39] <dman777> leftyfb: ok, just rebooted and same data
[03:39] <MrCollinsGA> leftyfb, so I figure I setup sync to auto copy the files to the machines, still trying to work out the flow :)
[03:39] <leftyfb> dman777: add "dhcp4: false" to your netplan config
[03:40] <leftyfb> dman777: also, be sure that your static ip you set isn't in the range of ip's your DHCP server(router) is giving out
[03:40] <dman777> leftyfb: dhcp4 doesn't exist at all in my netplan config
[03:40] <leftyfb> dman777: right, add it
[03:40] <dman777> leftyfb: it's the same one from my gentoo
[03:44] <dman777> leftyfb: reboot? or is apply enough?
[03:44] <leftyfb> dman777: I would reboot
[03:45] <MrCollinsGA> Do you have a link light on your nic card? maybe you have a sketchy cable and you accidently bumped it? :)
[03:46] <dman777> naw, works in my gentoo sys on same pc
[03:46] <leftyfb> MrCollinsGA: we already checked that with the operstate
[03:47] <MrCollinsGA> k
[03:48] <dman777> after reboot still no success
[03:49] <leftyfb> dman777: something isn't right. Something simple
[03:49] <leftyfb> dman777: ip a   # do you still see 255.255.255.255?
[03:51] <dman777> leftyfb: yes, I see brd 192.168.3.255
[03:51] <dman777> leftyfb: but ifconfig shows 255.255.255.0
[03:51] <leftyfb> brd?
[03:51] <dman777> for netmsk
[03:52] <leftyfb> oh, rght
[03:52] <leftyfb> dman777: ok, that's your broadcast, that's fine
[03:53] <leftyfb> dman777: is the ip of your machine the same as your gateway besides the last octet?
[03:54] <dman777> yes
[03:54] <leftyfb> can you ping your own ip?
[03:54] <leftyfb> do you have a firewall installed and rules applied?
[03:55] <dman777> yes, I can ping my own ip. I uninstalled ufw and I have iptables disabled
[03:55] <dman777> I also did a iptables -f
[03:55] <dman777> -F
[03:56] <leftyfb> dman777: ip route
[03:56] <leftyfb> dman777: how many listings are there and do you see your gateway as the default?
[04:01] <dman777> sorry, let me reboot...tried something that did not work
[04:04] <dman777> leftyfb: default via 192.168.xx.xx dev enp37s0 proto static; 192.168.xx.0/24 dev enp37s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.xx.xx
[04:06] <leftyfb> dman777: if your default route matches your gateway, then everything looks fine
[04:06] <leftyfb> something aint right
[04:06] <leftyfb> dman777: make a copy of the netplan file, put it all back to DHCP, reboot into a DHCP ip and compare the ip and gateway and netmask and such
[04:23] <dman777> leftyfb: oh wow.... I assigned the ipaddress from the router to my pc using the mac address. then with this config https://dpaste.org/XM0o I got it working with the static ip address...despite having dhcpd being set to yes
[04:24] <leftyfb> compare your "ip a" and "ip route" outputs to what you had before
[04:25] <leftyfb> and yes, having your machine set to DHCP now for your router to assign it a dedicated lease is correct
[04:25] <dman777> leftyfb: strange...how come I have to have dhcpcd set to true when the router will be assigning the ipaddress?
[04:26] <leftyfb> dman777: because your machine is getting it's IP via DHCP
[04:26] <leftyfb> the router is just giving it the same ip every time
[04:26] <dman777> leftyfb: ah!
[04:27] <leftyfb> dman777: you should still figure out what went wrong with the static ip config
[04:27] <dman777> yep... one sec... rebooting and then I will get that info
[04:30] <dman777> leftyfb: https://dpaste.org/E3pL the routes are different this time with it working
[04:31] <dman777> There are 3 routes instead of 2 as before when it was not working
[04:32] <dman777> leftyfb: the new route 192.168.x.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 was added with the working version. Why is this?
[04:33] <dman777> leftyfb: oh...and the gateway is different also
[04:33] <leftyfb> e
[04:33] <leftyfb> then your gateway with the static config was wrong
[04:34] <dman777> leftyfb: oh!
[04:34] <dman777> leftyfb: ok... thank you so much for your help!!! :)
[04:35] <leftyfb> "[23:06:12] <leftyfb> dman777: if your default route matches your gateway, then everything looks fine"
[04:35] <leftyfb> you should have responded with the fact that the default route was not the ip if your gateway
[04:36] <dman777> leftyfb: ah... ok. my bad
[04:37] <dman777> leftyfb: I should of realized. Been a good 2 years I think since I missed with my network.
[04:37] <leftyfb> ls
[04:37] <leftyfb> ugh
[04:38] <leftyfb> one of these days I'm going to figure out how to stop hexchat from stealing focus
[04:39] <dman777> well, I am out of here
[04:39] <dman777> leftyfb: thank you again and happy new year!
[05:56] <BrokrnRobot> Any ideas on what could disable integrated bluetooth system wide (visible via lsusb) other than a udev rule?
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> BrokrnRobot: try stacer, see if the systemd units are loaded
[07:54] <ducasse> BrokrnRobot: rfkill, i guess
[08:06] <Assid> is there an issue witrh the package manager  / software app ?
[08:06] <Assid> i keep having this issue.. https://pasteboard.co/T0RitKJGFqMl.png
[08:07] <Assid> it happenes with various apps i try and install..
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> try another paste url assid, yours is marked as a risk on FF
[08:10] <Assid> works fine here on FF...
[08:12] <Assid> any suggestions on a place to post ?
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> imgur.com Assid
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> or dpaste
[08:12] <Assid> https://imgur.com/a/1SiBfM4
[08:13] <Assid> it happens like this for most snaps
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> hmm thats what weird indeed, have you tryed to terminal way Assid ?
[08:14] <Assid> nah.. im pretty sure apt is mature enough..
[08:14] <Assid> never installed snaps via terminal though
[08:14] <Assid> that said.. i would like to have the gui working fine
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> its just to test and findout the culprit Assid
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> sudo snap install discord, try
[08:16] <Assid> let me uninstall first
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> or whatsie, in your case
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> works here on 22.04 devel and ubuntu software
[08:17] <Assid> it was working fine before.. i screwed up something.. and i tried to rollback using history.. which didnt rollback zfs correctly.. and well.. long story short.. i ended up reinstalling
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> never seen that snap error myself before, maybe ogra_ did?
[08:19] <Assid> and now things arent as clean as they should be.. even in kvirc .. a single space shows up as double space in the text input.. but becomes ok once i press enter
[08:19] <Assid> https://imgur.com/a/ljuKqVO
[08:20] <Assid> cli seems fine
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> Assid: snap info snap-store, what version gives?
[08:22] <Assid|2> great is just hung now
[08:23] <Assid|2> did anyone say anything after my last message
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> Assid|2: Assid: snap info snap-store, what version gives?
[08:24] <mannequin> hey i can't run ubuntu-tweak-tool
[08:24] <mannequin> any fixes?
[08:24] <mannequin> it does not show up in the menu
[08:25] <Assid|2> man .. it just feels slower since ive reloaded
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> mannequin: its gnome-tweaks these days
[08:28] <mannequin> what you mean?
[08:29] <Assid> https://imgur.com/a/scaXrhH
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> Assid: check the recent snap store bugs here; https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store-desktop/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> Assid: if you dont see your bug, consider filing a new one for your case
[08:34] <Croran> is there a way to automatically throttle RAM speed for any application that uses more than, say, 10GB of RAM?
[08:38] <Assid|2> lotuspsychje: can you post it.. the link is available in the snapshot
[08:39] <Assid|2> is there any VNC that works with wayland ?
[08:49] <Assid|2> btw: when i login.. i dont see the settings /gear icon to choose wayland / x11
[08:49] <Kuleshov> Let's play Counter-Strike: Condition Zero - connect 62.113.96.107
[08:55] <Assid|2> shouldnt wayland be the default ?
[09:25] <mikev> Ubuntu is truly a great operating system. Thanks for all your hard work.
[10:27] <Assid|2> is there a good GUI for managing virtual machines (kvm based)
[10:28] <Assid|2> also .. im using ZFS .. so would be good if i could use a ZFS  zvol  as a storage
[10:34] <kushal> Assid|2, virt-manager
[10:38] <Assid|2> so i currently have a dataset like rpool/USERDATA/user_f2x0n1 something
[10:39] <Assid|2> technically i should be creating a zvol below that right.. would it automatically create snapshots next time zsys does a snapshot ?
[10:39] <Assid|2> does it take recursive snapshots ?
[11:24] <zenof> Is there any good reason why the ubuntu-live system creates a writable parition on my usb pendrive for persistence _without_ asking me to do so?
[11:24] <zenof> *partition
[11:31] <ice9> whenever I lock gdm in Ubuntu for while, it freezes and I have to force shutdown, anybody facing this issue? btw it's hyprid graphics laptop
[11:36] <zenof> ice9: by "it freezes" you mean only gdm freezes or anything else?
[11:37] <ice9> i mean i can toggle capslock but nothing else works, it's completely freezing
[11:38] <zenof> did you try using only one of your gpus?  for example the igp only?
[11:53] <josef-marie> what all about here
[11:54] <josef-marie> cos am new
[12:09] <zenof> okay, no one? then please at least explain how to permanently disable the creation of a writable partition.
[12:10] <Assid> hmm.. so i cant seem to be able to use ZVOL with virtual machine manager
[12:25] <ice9> how to install boost signals lib?
[12:25] <ice9> i isntalled libboost-all-dev but it's not included
[12:32] <KBar> zenof: `sudo chmod -w /dev/sdX`?
[12:33] <KBar> ice9: try libboost-signals-dev
[12:34] <ice9> KBar, there is no such package in the repo
[12:34] <KBar> ice9: what version of Ubuntu?
[12:34] <ice9> KBar, 21.10
[12:34] <KBar> its available in Bionic
[12:37] <KBar> ice9: libboost1.74-dev
[12:37] <KBar> libboost1.74-tools-dev
[12:58] <zenof> KBar: haven't tried that, but my inital question was :Is there any good reason why the ubuntu-live system creates a writable partition on my usb pendrive for persistence _without_ asking me to do so?
[13:00] <zenof> and I don't want to change the write permissions on a partition that will be mounted once I booted a system already..
[13:01] <KBar> zenof: I don't think it does that by default. It's mounted read-only and you can't access it. Are you sure you did not modify it with things like mkusb?
[13:04] <zenof> yes, I am sure. I just cloned the *.iso to my pendrive, and once I booted from it, it creates a partition called "writable" in the left free space, and puts install logs and stuff inside.
[13:05] <KBar> zenof: that's interesting. is it persistent though, i.e. can you write data to it and access it later after removing it from the computer?
[13:06] <zenof> and I expect a live system to not change anything in my partition tables at all, not on my actual hdd nor on the pendrive itself. just for security reasons.
[13:08] <KBar> zenof: I found a thread on ubuntuforums that explains what might be the reasoning behind it: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2446272
[13:08] <zenof> yes, it is persistent. when I later plug this usb pendrive to a installed system, the ubuntu live partition (ro) is there a long with  writable ext part
[13:13] <zenof> okay, from that thread "a cloned live drive is no longer read-only, but it creates an ext4 partition with the label 'writable' behind the cloned part of the drive automatically. ". why on earth is that done as default "automatically". I mean it would be okay to opt-in in something like that, but why do I have to proactively turn it off?
[13:14] <zenof> again, from a so called live-system I expect to leave everything untouched ...
[13:15] <KBar> zenof: there is probably a log of this change somewhere. keep in mind that you're not the only user of Ubuntu. there's probably a good reason to it. #ubuntu-devel might be a better place to ask and discuss such things
[13:17] <KBar> zenof: if you think it's potentially dangerous, file a bug report on launchpad.net against the affected packages or send a message to  ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
[13:21] <zenof> KBar: yes, I'm aware of not being the only ubuntu user. And yes, I will have some further read about that, maybe asking the dev-guys.. thx.
[13:47] <jsbach> hi! anyone using veracrypt here?
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> jsbach: usualy this channel focuses on ubuntu issues, if you think its related ask in this channel so volunteers can think along with you
[13:51] <KBar> jsbach: https://www.veracrypt.fr/en/Contact.html
[13:52] <jsbach> lotuspsychje, well yeah, as i installed the default pacage from the repo. The Problem: Auto-Mounting with Favourite Volumes don't work on my Ubuntu 20.04 with 5.11 Kernel
[13:54] <KBar> jsbach: ? it's not available from the default repositories
[13:55] <JackFrost> jsbach: I don't see an option to automatically mount favorites on launch, I do see a button to mount all favorites though.
[13:55] <jsbach> K8ar, hmm apt-cache tells me it is available. gotta check if i added external repo
[13:55] <JackFrost> You likely have a PPA for it, or downloaded the *.deb from sf.net/p/veracrypt
[13:56] <jsbach> JackFrost, exactly. According to theory of VeraCrypt, it is "all" mark the volume as "favourite"
[13:57] <KBar> To remind you, this channel is for Ubuntu support.
[14:00] <JackFrost> jsbach: Reading up on the doc about favorites (https://veracrypt.eu/en/docs/favorites/), it is written geared towards Windows and I'm not sure the same quite applies to Linux.  You have the option to add things to favorites and you can mount/dismount all from the tray and whatnot, butt I don't think you can do so on launch unless you're passing veracrypt --auto-mount=favorites
[14:00] <JackFrost> (I have never used such a feature though, so do not know it well.)
[14:00] <jsbach> JackFrost, thanks for the pointer. gotta check that out though.
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> alternate, zulucrypt is on the ubuntu repos
[14:02] <jsbach> wierd, i haven't added any veracrypt repos. I checked the /etc/apt/sources.list and sources.list.d/. Also the "Software Updater" UI
[14:02] <JackFrost> cryptsetup itself has support for veracrypt volumes too, though of course doesn't have a GUI like zulu does.
[14:02] <jsbach> anyhow.
[14:02] <JackFrost> jsbach: Can you pastebin the output of `apt-cache policy veracrypt`? | nc termbin.com 9999   should work I think.
[14:03] <jsbach> JackFrost, ok.
[14:03] <JackFrost> If you aren't super attched to the UI, maybe look into zulucrypt too.
[14:04] <KBar> jsbach: or do this (more reliable): `dpkg -S $(which -a COMMAND)`
[14:05] <JackFrost> That's...not at all the info I'm looking for.
[14:05] <KBar> it will print the name of the package the executable came from
[14:05] <jsbach> JackFrost, https://pastebin.com/33q1Gx63
[14:05] <jsbach> got more info for you guys. name of ma machine
[14:05] <jsbach> lol
[14:05] <KBar> jsbach: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=veracrypt&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[14:06] <JackFrost> jsbach: You didn't get that from a repo, there's no downloadable source.  I also don't recognize the version string right off either.
[14:06] <KBar> tell me you see a package called veracrypt there
[14:06] <jsbach> K8ar, got you
[14:06] <JackFrost> 1.25.4 is out, fwiw.
[14:06] <jsbach> i might have added temporarly i guess
[14:06] <KBar> you got it from launchpad
[14:06] <jsbach> JackFrost, thanks
[14:06] <KBar> the deb package
[14:06] <KBar> and installed with dpkg -i
[14:06] <jsbach> KBar, launchpad! aha! nice one.
[14:06] <jsbach> i might yes
[14:07] <JackFrost> Or, sf.net/p/veracrypt, which the releases are uploaded to and there's a pretty active community forum.
[14:08] <JackFrost> jsbach: FWIW, the docs should already be on your system at /usr/share/doc/veracrypt/HTML/
[14:08] <jsbach> JackFrost, i'll try the automount switch as you mentioned. if not, the update. just about time, those updates. then the configuration is gone etc. etc.
[14:08] <jsbach> JackFrost, thanks for the advice. veracrypt works fine, don't mind if ui or not ui. just a question of time investment
[14:09] <jsbach> JackFrost, well yeah. read the manual. i know
[14:16] <JackFrost> jsbach: Hah, I just meant there's a copy on your system, not just online.
[14:18] <mannequin> is there a way to make tweak tool work?
[14:19] <jsbach> JackFrost, ah! i see!
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-tweaks | mannequin
[14:20] <jsbach> ok, gotta restart. cheers!
[14:22] <mannequin> lotuspsychje: thanks man
[14:28] <KBar> mannequin: what do you mean make it work and how exactly it's not working?
[14:28] <mannequin> well i want system monitor
[14:28] <mannequin> on debian gnome is on the top
[14:29] <KBar> mannequin: that's very vague. You want to keep tabs on system resources usage and system performance?
[14:30] <mannequin> yes i want my eye on it on the top bar
[14:31] <KBar> mannequin: what's the output of `lsb_release -ds` and `gnome-shell --version`?
[14:31] <KBar> mannequin: also, can you link to a screenshot?
[14:32] <mannequin> lsb_release -ds
[14:32] <KBar> mannequin: type it into the shell
[14:32] <mannequin> oops
[14:32] <KBar> mannequin: open Activities > search for "Terminal"
[14:33] <KBar> mannequin: paste this command without the backquotes
[14:33] <KBar> we just use them to help it separate from our message, e.g. `this is a command you need to type in`
[14:34] <mannequin> i know
[14:36] <mannequin> Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS
[14:37] <mannequin> GNOME Shell 3.36.9
[14:37] <mannequin> maybe idk how to run it?
[14:37] <mannequin> KBar:
[14:37] <KBar> mannequin: thanks. Did you install any software for that?
[14:38] <KBar> What exactly did you install?
[14:39] <mannequin> the point is
[14:40] <mannequin> i do want the ayatem monitor on top
[14:40] <KBar> mannequin: you need to install the `gnome-shell-extension-system-monitor` package for that.
[14:40] <KBar> That's why I'm asking.
[14:40] <KBar> Did you install it or what else did you install?
[14:41] <KBar> GNOME Shell is very strict. You can't just move things to top panel.
[14:41] <KBar> mannequin: install the aforementioned package and enable it from the "Extensions" app.
[14:42] <mannequin> it's not there
[14:42] <mannequin> should i relog?
[14:43] <KBar> mannequin: what's not there? The package or the extension in the list?
[14:43] <dobbicorp> which drivers should i install for 2080ti?
[14:43] <dobbicorp> nvidia
[14:43] <KBar> mannequin: yes. You need to relogin
[14:43] <KBar> dobbicorp: `sudo ubuntu-drivers install`
[14:43] <dobbicorp> nvidia-driver-4* ?
[14:43] <mannequin> the extension is not present
[14:43] <KBar> mannequin: log out and log back in.
[14:44] <dobbicorp> KBar: ahh just like that, without actual numbers like 465 and 470
[14:44] <dobbicorp> ?
[14:44] <mannequin> that has to wait but thank you very much
[14:44] <KBar> dobbicorp: it will pull whichever fits the best.
[14:44] <dobbicorp> nice, thank you
[14:45] <KBar> mannequin: just to make sure. Is the package installed?
[14:45] <KBar> Did you install it?
[14:45] <mannequin> i did
[14:45] <mannequin> with apt
[14:45] <KBar> mannequin: can you post the output of `dpkg -l gnome-shell-extension-system-monitor`?
[14:45] <mannequin> i'm just currently doing something else on slow connection
[14:46] <KBar> mannequin: that command doesn't require any connection.
[14:46] <mannequin> ii  gnome-shell-extension-system-monitor 38+git20200414-32cc79e-1 all          Display system information in GNOME Shell status bar
[14:46] <mannequin> but if relog i'll waste time
[14:47] <oerheks> some extentions need a logout/login again..
[14:47] <KBar> +1
[14:48] <KBar> actually, restarting the shell should also work
[14:48] <KBar> but since you're on Wayland, i dont know the equivalent of `-r` for it :(
[14:49] <KBar> oerheks: is there one for Wayland sessions?
[14:52] <KBar> scrap that. ofc G**** removes that feature too: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2015-March/msg01019.html
[14:54] <Guest59> hey I have ubuntu flash drive
[14:54] <Guest59> how do I write files on it too
[14:54] <Guest59> I don't want the whole drive used for ubuntu alone
[14:54] <Guest59> it's 32gb
[14:55] <KBar> Guest59: my guess is to create separate partitions
[14:55] <Guest59> guide a bit if You know
[14:56] <KBar> Guest59: unfortunately i dont know. but i found this answer https://askubuntu.com/questions/1038927/make-a-ubuntu-live-usb-without-having-it-waste-the-whole-usb
[14:56] <KBar> Guest59: read through it and come back if you have more questions
[14:58] <KBar> Guest59: this one is much more comprehensive: https://askubuntu.com/questions/423300/live-usb-on-a-2-partition-usb-drive
[14:58] <Guest59> just use gparted
[15:01] <Guest59> https://ibb.co/frcB506
[15:01] <Guest59> so
[15:01] <Guest59> from this window
[15:01] <Guest59> what do I do
[15:01] <Guest59> resize?
[15:02] <oerheks> you see your installed ubuntu , sda
[15:02] <oerheks> first change it to your usb, top right corner..
[15:02] <oerheks> or the top menu, whatever
[15:03] <Guest59> it is usb
[15:03] <Guest59> 30 gb must be usb drive
[15:03] <oerheks> good
[15:03] <KBar> Guest59: I mean, the second link has it all. just follow the steps
[15:03] <jsbach> JackFrost, thanks. it worked with the switch. I also got the VeraCrypt to the latest update.
[15:03] <oerheks> oh wait, you want to edit the live usb?
[15:03] <oerheks> not possible.
[15:04] <Guest59> KBar I don't see steps
[15:04] <oerheks> do this from an other installed ubuntu
[15:05] <Guest59> wait so I format it to have two partitions
[15:05] <Guest59> then I just install usb live on one of them
[15:05] <Guest59> ?
[15:05] <Maik> i think you need a persistent install on the usb to store files on it....?
[15:06] <oerheks> yes, with mkusb, he got tyhe URLs
[15:06] <KBar> Guest59: something like that yes
[15:06] <oerheks> but not after writing the iso to usb
[15:06] <KBar> +1
[15:06] <Guest59> wait
[15:06] <Guest59> 2 drives appear
[15:06] <Guest59> one called writeable
[15:06] <Guest59> other ubuntu
[15:06] <KBar> its partitions
[15:06] <KBar> inside a driver
[15:07] <KBar> *drive
[15:42] <lili> join #debian
[15:45] <KBar> lili: do you have Ubuntu-related questions?
[15:57] <webchat19> hi folks! I just upgraded my vm server from 18.04 to 20.04, and for some reason netplan was not installed for some reason , so now the vm is without network..:D  I have accees to vm via console, and still have the netconfig in /etc/network/interfaces, but it's not activated on boot. Anyone have any good links to howto bring vm up with static ip
[15:57] <webchat19> and route with ip/route commands or some other idea how i could get network up so i could install netplan and have a try with the new yaml-type config (i'm moderate skill in linux, and have used netplan before to config). .. so chicken vs egg dilemma, howto install netplan without network:)  I could just backup the important data and nuke the vm
[15:57] <webchat19> and install fresh ubuntu 20.04 minimal or debian 11 and start over, but I wanted to ask comments first..
[16:03] <KBar> webchat19: `dpkg -l netplan.io`
[16:03] <leftyfb> webchat19: how is your interfaces configured now? dhcp or static?
[16:04] <leftyfb> webchat19: I would suggest dhcp. Then look at the interface name you have configured and compare that with the interface names being detected in /sys/class/net/
[16:04] <webchat19> static ip, but no network atm, because something has changed, and /etc/network/interfaces is not processed anymore
[16:04] <leftyfb> webchat19: e/n/i is probably being processed still
[16:04] <webchat19> this vm is in a datacenter, so no dhcp available
[16:05] <leftyfb> webchat19: ok, check my 2nd request
[16:08] <alala> Hi. Yesterday strange situation: Httpd ist deinstalled, also OpenVAS, that was listening to that port. But whenever I browsed to localhost, I was redirected to: https://127.0.0.1:9392/login/login.html . How can I figure out which application ist listening on that port? netstat would not ... thanks
[16:08] <leftyfb> alala: sudo lsof -i :9392
[16:09] <webchat19> leftyfb:  eth0 -> ../../devices/virtual/net/eth0 is in /sys/class/net/, and eth0 configured in interfaces, also i think ifconfig and ip link says interface is up, but without ip config
[16:09] <leftyfb> webchat19: journalctl -u networking
[16:09] <leftyfb> check for errors
[16:10] <alala> leftyfb: thank but that does not show the service or the binaray binding to it
[16:11] <leftyfb> alala: then there is no service listening on that port
[16:11] <alala> leftyfb: damn, I am blind. column 1
[16:11] <alala> thank you
[16:13] <webchat19> leftyfb: good suggestions,  RTNETLINK answers: No such process, and RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address visible, but i'm starting to think that it would be easier for me to bring another volume to this vm and copy all important stuff to that volume and start with fresh install, rather than try to debug this.. thanks anyway!
[16:26] <mannequin> too bad the system monitor indicator wont show temperatures
[16:47] <jhutchins> mannequin: Hmmm... 6,230,000 search results for "gnome temperature monitor".
[16:47] <mannequin> thats a lot
[16:48] <mannequin> it seems to not fit on the screen
[16:48] <mannequin> because the sensors are there
[16:48] <mannequin> maybe i'll shrink the graphs
[16:49] <mannequin> but not today
[16:49] <mannequin> i almost died on friday
[16:50] <mannequin> everything hurts
[16:50] <mannequin> is there a social channel for ubuntu?
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[16:51] <mannequin> thanks
[17:01] <RedNifre> How do I change the zoom on my webcam?
[17:02] <RedNifre> As in, only the center of the video feed gets forwarded to the video call apps. I'm asking because my camera is farer away than usual.
[17:02] <jhutchins> RedNifre: Turn the black crank on the right hand side of the casing clockwise.
[17:03] <RedNifre> The webcam doesn't have an optical zoom, so I'm looking for a software zoom.
[17:03] <RedNifre> Ideally, I could set this in the operating system per camera, so if I find the ideal zoom, it would use it in all apps.
[17:04] <jhutchins> RedNifre: Well go ahead and write that then.
[17:04] <jhutchins> RedNifre: Seriously, we'd have to know what camera you have, and what software you're trying to use it with.
[17:05] <jhutchins> RedNifre: Web cams are not standard by any means, they use a variety of user interfaces and controls, and video applications do not have standard interfaces either.
[17:05] <RedNifre> Logitech cam and every software. Basically, I'd like to set "2 x zoom" and it would use the pixels from 1/4 X to 3/4 X and 1/4 Y to 3/4 Y.
[17:06] <RedNifre> Okay, sounds impossible then.
[17:06] <jhutchins> RedNifre: No, you just need to dig into the documentation for the components you're using.  Logitech doesn't explicitly support Linux apps, so they won't be much help.
[17:07] <jhutchins> !webcam
[17:08] <jhutchins> RedNifre: Remember, almost all commercial video is processed through Linux render farms, so the possibility is out there.
[17:08] <RedNifre> I was hoping that the OS would, you know, abstract he hardware. As in, the video call apps wouldn't have to care about the specific cam. Oh well.
[17:12] <movah4c> good evening. How do i get this utf8 character "🌡" in color ?
[17:26] <movah4c> i have this problem with the utf8 character in the console and in my own programm ( https://ibb.co/P6KHXR3 )
[17:41] <Guest88> hey
[17:42] <Guest88> I booted my ubuntu flash into acer pc to check before install
[17:42] <Guest88> how do I mount writable part of flash drive
[17:42] <Guest88> 32gb flash drive, and ubuntu took only 3
[17:42] <Guest88> on my home pc it shows writable partition
[17:42] <Guest88> how do I access it
[17:45] <summonner> Guest88, I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. Can you rephrase the question in a different way?
[17:45] <Guest88> sdb4  27.3G root  disk  brw-rw----
[17:46] <Guest88> how do I acess  this  from ubuntu
[17:46] <EriC^^> Guest88: sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt?
[17:46] <EriC^^> in the filemanager you should be able to click on it and it mounts it for you
[17:47] <Guest88> yeah
[17:47] <jhutchins> Guest88: Assuming that it's already defined as a partition, maeke a filesystem on it using mkfs, then mount it to whatever mount point you want.
[17:47] <Guest88> worked
[17:47] <jhutchins> Guest88: interesting.  I wonder how it got formated.
[17:47] <jhutchins> Guest88: Anyway, have fun.
[17:49] <kulesh> Let's play Counter-Strike: Condition Zero - connect 62.113.96.107
[18:07] <Maik> kulesh: please don't do that here since it's a Ubuntu support channel, if you're looking for someone to play ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or other offtopic channels
[18:08] <oerheks> kulesh, too many times spamming
[18:08] <oerheks> !ops
[18:14] <MrCollinsGA> does rsync care if it is installed on client or nfs share machine or does it have to be on btoh?
[18:14] <MrCollinsGA> both*
[18:16] <shadow255> MrCollinsGA: if you're using rsync to move/copy between a client computer and an nfs share that is mounted from it, you only need rsync on your client computer
[18:17] <MrCollinsGA> shadow255, thank you!
[18:21] <MrCollinsGA> anyone have a terminal emulator they really like, better then stock ubuntu? :)
[18:22] <oerheks> there are tons of options, but this channel is not about polling.
[18:22] <Croran> gnome terminal is pretty good really
[18:22] <oerheks> yes, there is a reason for it being standard
[18:23] <MrCollinsGA> thank you! I wasnt trying to 'poll' maybe I was I have googled many options. I apologize
[18:23] <Croran> someday i hope the ttys will be redone to remove all the cruft and add better support for modern systems
[18:24] <Croran> but for now standardization is kind of a big positive
[18:26] <MrCollinsGA> OK./me nods approvingly
[18:27] <MrCollinsGA> whoops!
[18:27]  * MrCollinsGA nods approvingly
[18:50] <JackFrost> jsbach: Great!  Glad we could help.
[18:56] <leftyfb> MrCollinsGA: I prefer terminator for it's splitting and grouping
[19:03] <marc__> how do i remove mozilla firefox from system and re install it i tried purge firfox its still there
[19:07] <leftyfb> marc__: which version of ubuntu?
[19:07] <oerheks> remove the standard snap?
[19:08] <oerheks> snap remove -- purge firefox
[19:13] <marc__> latest
[19:13] <leftyfb> marc__: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:13] <marc__> im only removing it because the sound has stopped working
[19:13] <marc__> sound in games works but not on firfox
[19:13] <leftyfb> I've heard people say the latest and mean the install from 2 years ago. Also not even Ubuntu
[19:14] <marc__> i tried allow in the privacy setttings and it still didnt work
[19:14] <marc__> no w how can i re install it
[19:14] <dreamon> hello -> grep "21.12.24\|21.12.23\" /home/dreamon/sshfs/run/user/1000/Zaehler.pwr > /run/user/1000/Tag_Selektiv_Strom.pwr → by starting this command it dont get cursor back. it dont finish. I dont know why?
[19:14] <oerheks> snap install firefox ?
[19:15] <oerheks> also: rename the ~./.mozilla folder can help
[19:15] <marc__> ok thanks its re installing now
[19:16] <marc__> ok its still not working on youtube videos anyone got any ideas
[19:16] <marc__> no sound
[19:17] <oerheks> check sound settings?
[19:17] <oerheks> i am not sure how you could tell in a minute installing and that there is no sound
[19:18] <marc__> sounds working in games
[19:18] <marc__> ok no its strange there are no sound settings
[19:19] <leftyfb> marc__: did you have firefox running during either removing or reinstalling firefox?
[19:19] <marc__> I removed firefox and re installed it
[19:19] <marc__> yea i think the firefox was on screen
[19:20] <leftyfb> marc__: close it and start over
[19:20] <oerheks> pkill firefox
[19:21] <leftyfb> marc__: close firefox then : sudo pkill firefox ; mv ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/ && sudo snap remove purge firefox ; sudo snap install firefox
[19:23] <oerheks> that would be a nice oneliner
[19:24] <marc__> shall i restart after doing that as the sound settings have gone missing
[19:24] <leftyfb> marc__: which sound settings?
[19:25] <marc__> up in corner near network symbol
[19:25] <leftyfb> marc__: that doesn't have anything to do with firefox
[19:25] <leftyfb> marc__: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:26] <mannequin> why isn't weather working
[19:27] <marc__> https://termbin.com/rvjv
[19:28] <leftyfb> marc__: having "sound settings" in the top right corner of ubuntu has nothing to do with firefox
[19:28] <marc__> shall i restart
[19:29] <leftyfb> marc__: I can't answer that because I don't know what issue you are describing at the moment
[19:30] <marc__> no audio in firfox on youtube videos
[19:30] <leftyfb> marc__: wait, did you have some addon installed in firefox having to do with sound settings?
[19:31] <marc__> the only thing thats in there is plugins >> openH264 video codec
[19:32] <leftyfb> marc__: try this: mv ~/.config/pulse ~/     # then reboot
[19:32] <marc__> default for all websites is ALLOW AUDIO and VIDEO in privacy settings
[19:33] <marc__> brb gonna reboot
[19:33] <mannequin> ubuntu tweak tool shows me error by loading extension
[19:33] <leftyfb> mannequin: contact the developer of the extension for support
[19:34] <mannequin> it'sthe default ubuntu extension
[19:36] <Maik> mannequin: by default there's no weather extension in ubuntu. Did you install it yourself?
[19:36] <marc__> ok back sound is now on using firefox but my sound settings have all gone missing
[19:37] <marc__> ah its ok i found them
[19:38] <marc__> thanks everything is now fixed and working :)))
[19:39] <oerheks> have fun!
[19:39] <mannequin> it's gnome-shell-extension-weather, Maik
[19:39] <Maik> my question was if you installed it yourself mannequin
[19:40] <mannequin> it was right in there in ubuntu
[19:40] <mannequin> yes
[19:40] <oerheks> it is optional, iirc
[19:40] <oerheks> !info gnome-shell-extension-weather
[19:40] <Maik> it's not by default mannequin and i run ubuntu
[19:40] <mannequin> with apt
[19:40] <mannequin> well i got this in my repo
[19:41] <Maik> then file a bug
[19:42] <mannequin> ok
[19:42] <mannequin> tomorrow tho
[20:16] <Gallomimia> !kernel
[20:16] <Gallomimia> !mainline
[20:18] <Gallomimia> uhhhhh. this page is not very clear. how do i install a newer kernel? ubuntu 21.10
[20:20] <Gallomimia> this page still lists Freenode as the place to go for support: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ
[20:20] <oerheks> Gallomimia, not sure !hwe gives a newer kernel for 21.10
[20:20] <Gallomimia> !hwe
[20:20] <oerheks> !hwe
[20:21] <Gallomimia> that page is old as the hills too
[20:22] <Gallomimia> what i need... is hardware-un-disablement
[20:22] <oerheks> oh right, LTS only
[20:22] <Gallomimia> this set of hardware worked just fine under previous versions of ubuntu. 14.04 16.04
[20:22] <oerheks> one could test a mainline kernel, but then you are on your own
[20:22] <oerheks> !mainline
[20:22] <Gallomimia> why now i am having regression
[20:22] <Gallomimia> let me be a bit more clear on my issue: https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/ubuntu-21-10-failed-to-grab-modeset-ownership-with-495-44/193867/26
[20:23] <Gallomimia> graphics drivers are having a fit. reports that kernel 5.13 works
[20:24] <oerheks> and what hardware exactly?
[20:25] <Gallomimia> GTX780Ti
[20:25] <Gallomimia> and possibly a motherboard called 990FXA with a really shitty amd iommu
[20:27] <Gallomimia> this is the error i'm having in dmesg: [drm:nv_drm_master_set [nvidia_drm]] *ERROR* [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000100] Failed to grab modeset ownership
[20:31] <oerheks> why does a 780i ring a bell.. such old card need the 340 driver IIRC
[20:31] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=impish
[20:32] <Gallomimia> nvidia site says 470
[20:33] <Gallomimia> 340 is from half a decade ago? that wouldn't even have vulkan support?
[20:45] <Gallomimia> so, what's the simplest way to install kernel 5.13 on 21.10
[20:46] <oerheks> 21.10 should already have 5.13
[20:52] <Gallomimia> well i'm on 5.12
[20:53] <Gallomimia> oh you're right. what
[20:54] <Gallomimia> um um um. 5.14 is what i wanted to upgrade to. but people are saying same issue under 5.14 and 5.15
[20:55] <Gallomimia> curses. i need this to go away. it's causing so many issues
[20:55] <Gallomimia> memory leaks. performance problems. hangs. certain programs won't error
[20:55] <Croran> is there a way to throttle memory usage for applications that use more than, say, 10GB of RAM?
[20:56] <oerheks> ' people are saying same issue under 5.14 and 5.15'... so they are running next Jellyfish 22.04?
[21:49] <oerheks> bye matrix
[21:57] <Gallomimia> oerheks, they're not always specific about what OS they're on
[21:59] <syberdork> 2
[22:00] <oerheks> one could test the mainline ppa, but that comes without support. i still think it is a wild claim, memory leaks, without further info.
[22:00] <oerheks> could be a browser, and a certain page only..
[22:06] <MrCollinsGA> running Ubuntu 20.04 I cant change window managers. I am trying to install a minimalist gui here is my output from apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop
[22:06] <MrCollinsGA> https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/raw/qewojoyuta
[22:07] <MrCollinsGA> now I am at a window manager that is not the one I had loaded before. It has very very minimal icons etc, like it is some kind of 'safe mode'.
[22:07] <MrCollinsGA> It is not the one I was going for the command apt install lightdm
[22:10] <pasiz> MrCollinsGA: are you talking of window manager or login manager
[22:10] <MrCollinsGA> window manager I *believe*
[22:10] <illia> hello guys
[22:11] <MrCollinsGA> hello
[22:11] <pasiz> lightdm is display manager
[22:11] <pasiz> thus name dm
[22:11] <MrCollinsGA> ok maybe thats what I am after.
[22:12] <MrCollinsGA> I know the *gui* I have now, is not what I wanted. I cant even open terminal without atrl-alt-t
[22:12] <pasiz> MrCollinsGA: what is your problem?
[22:12] <illia> whats your view on hacking
[22:12] <MrCollinsGA> not the right window manager
[22:12] <MrCollinsGA> hacking is typing code, right?
[22:12] <pasiz> MrCollinsGA: have you selected what window manager on display manager
[22:12] <leftyfb> !ot | illia
[22:13] <illia> typing commands plus cracking codes
[22:14] <leftyfb> illia: This is an ubuntu support channel. go to #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss anything else
[22:15] <pasiz> MrCollinsGA: what desktop environment you are trying to use? gnome, kde ??
[22:15] <MrCollinsGA> pasiz, not sure but I think I got it figured out. https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-minimal-gnome-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[22:15] <MrCollinsGA> you helped me inadvertently figured out, thank you.
[22:15] <MrCollinsGA> leftyfb, how are you today
[22:16] <pasiz> aim to please...
[22:16] <MrCollinsGA> so let me get this straight, according to that website, what it tells you to install, is a desktop manager?
[22:18] <illia> mr collin what you want to find out about
[22:19] <MrCollinsGA> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-minimal-gnome-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux  does that website have me install a desktop manager? is that what the official word for 'gui' in ubuntu?
[22:20] <illia> graphical user interface
[22:20] <MrCollinsGA> I know what a gui is. :)
[22:21] <MrCollinsGA> is that installing a 'desktop manager'?
[22:22] <Gallomimia> still have not figured out how to change to a newer kernel. the wiki doesn't help, and no one in this channel is willing to tell me.
[22:23] <oerheks> MrCollinsGA, yes, but more minimal than the ubuntu minimal desktop
[22:23] <leftyfb> Gallomimia: why do you think you need a newer kernel?
[22:23] <oerheks> Gallomimia, there is no newer kernel
[22:23] <oerheks> try !mainline, but those are for testing only
[22:23] <MrCollinsGA> Gallomimia, take help when someone is willing and humbly appreciate it.
[22:24] <Gallomimia> it has been suggested that using a different kernel version will cause the nvidia driver to stop flipping its wig
[22:24] <Gallomimia> so, yes. i'll be testing.
[22:25] <Gallomimia> the !mainline snippet did not give me any understandable instructions
[22:25] <oerheks> you are still using the 495?
[22:25] <Gallomimia> 470
[22:25] <leftyfb> Gallomimia: maybe start by asking for help troubleshooting your exact issue (nvidia) and not with some solution someone on the internet came up with that might or might not work
[22:25] <Gallomimia> according to nvidia website 495 does not support the 780i
[22:26] <Gallomimia> okay. this issue i'm having is this error in dmesg: [   24.319403] [drm:nv_drm_master_set [nvidia_drm]] *ERROR* [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000100] Failed to grab modeset ownership
[22:27] <leftyfb> Gallomimia: do you have any symptoms other than this kernel message?
[22:27] <Gallomimia> here is a full paste of my dmesg: https://termbin.com/dhb6
[22:28] <Gallomimia> yes. the gpu performance is attrocious. there are unexplainable memory leaks in the system. websites refuse to display visual. certain programs refuse to quit cleanly.
[22:29] <Gallomimia> they are numerous and difficult to descirbe. i asked for help in this channel some time ago, and was pointed at this kernel message. a solution was not forthcoming nor simple so i had to back-burner it
[22:30] <leftyfb> Gallomimia: https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/ubuntu-21-10-failed-to-grab-modeset-ownership-with-495-44/193867/28   looks like this is a known issue with nvidia's driver. Nothing we can really do here
[22:31] <Gallomimia> regression, as it worked fine years ago. i suppose i can downgrade the driver
[22:32] <Gallomimia> seems there's actual interest from an nvidia employee... i wonder if there's any reports i can submit to aid?
[22:33] <leftyfb> Gallomimia: maybe post in that thread
[22:33] <leftyfb> good luck
[22:33] <Gallomimia> yeah >:( thanks tho
[22:47] <Gallomimia> okay that's good. hopefully nvidia staff is back in the office tomorrow.
[23:38] <trafficjam> anyone know what this `apt upgrade` error means? 'E: Failed to fetch http://binaries.erlang-solutions.com/debian/pool/erlang-crypto_24.1.7-1%7eubuntu%7eimpish_amd64.deb  File has unexpected size (191482 != 191542). Mirror sync in progress?'
[23:39] <leftyfb> trafficjam: it means contact erlang-solutions.com for support with their broken repo
[23:40] <trafficjam> leftyfb: it's definitely a repo issue?
[23:40] <jhutchins> trafficjam: Yes.
[23:40] <leftyfb> trafficjam: do you have issues with any of your other repos?
[23:40] <jhutchins> trafficjam: Probably just temporary.
[23:40] <trafficjam> nope just this one
[23:42] <jhutchins> trafficjam: Repos are fairly automated, when something messes up they need human intervention, which isn't immediate (especially on weekends and holidays).
[23:42] <trafficjam> ah ok, thanks
[23:53] <trafficjam> can someone explain what exactly happens during a mirror sync? and is there a way to use an older version of the package? not sure i want to wait several days for this gets fixed
[23:57] <trafficjam> for example can i use the 21.04 version?
[23:58] <trafficjam> going to do it