[00:00] <trafficjam> isn't this stuff automatically checked and the previous working version defaulted to?
[00:00] <leftyfb> trafficjam: did you have the previous version installed?
[00:01] <trafficjam> i did yeah, but somehow it get removed
[00:03] <trafficjam> what happens to people that have some automated process that downloads a particular repo when this happens? The pipeline just breaks?
[00:08] <dman777> On Ubunutu 20.04, I am starting kvm with qemu-system-x86_64. A terminal window pops up with the console running. Does anyone know how to disable that? I only want a terminal window if I run vnc manually
[00:24] <lehinsun> hi guys. There is a convenient feature in macOS for switching between windows by typing window's name - https://ibb.co/nQSNt9m Is there something similar for ubuntu?
[00:26] <leftyfb> lehinsun: hit the <SUPER> key and type the name of the application and it'll open up to any windows already open
[00:27] <lehinsun> leftyfb, god damn right
[00:27] <lehinsun> thank you
[00:49] <eletrotupi> hello!
[00:50] <eletrotupi> Ubuntu doesn't seems to mount my microSD card (using a SD adapter), it does recognize it (on dmesg) but does't assign any device name
[00:50] <eletrotupi> *doesn't
[00:50] <eletrotupi> the card is working hella of fine on my camera (canon)
[00:51] <oerheks> what filesystem is on that card?
[00:53] <oerheks> only dirty/filesystems with errors might refuse to mount
[00:53] <eletrotupi> hm, I don't really know
[00:54] <eletrotupi> it was formatted with the camera itself (a canon one)
[00:54] <eletrotupi> I also installed exfat-utils and exfat-fuse
[00:55] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[00:55] <oerheks> disks utility could show it?
[00:59] <eletrotupi> disks utility detected a 0kb drive
[01:00] <eletrotupi> the name it was assigned doesn't appear at /dev though
[01:11] <eletrotupi> ok, it was the fucking card adapter
[01:11] <eletrotupi> fucking shit
[01:30] <DynamiteDan> Hello. How do I make an executable on Linux ask the super user password the same way gparted does? Thanks in advance
[01:33] <Aarch64debian> chmod?
[01:33] <Aarch64debian> !chmod
[01:34] <DynamiteDan> But that doesn’t start the askpass gnome útil
[01:35] <DynamiteDan> Whenever I type gparted, there is a gfx screen asking for a password
[01:39] <oerheks> sudo chgrp sudo /usr/bin/<applicationcommand? and sudo chmod 750 /usr/bin/<applicationcommand?
[01:39] <oerheks> then logout/login
[01:41] <DynamiteDan> Will try.
[01:52] <DynamiteDan> I figured out sudo has a askpass option. It dims the screen and asks for a password. I just don’t know how to setup the program that will ask the password
[01:52] <DynamiteDan> I should I mean
[01:53] <oerheks> if you tried my steps, it would do that, no?
[01:54] <DynamiteDan> Yes I did try.
[01:55] <DynamiteDan> But the commands are in a shell scrpt
[01:55] <oerheks> time to give more info then ,...
[01:56] <oerheks> 'an executable' means a program in /usr/bin
[01:58] <DynamiteDan> Ok. I have this script to automate the installation of a non opensource program. I should execute some commands as root. So far I am using sudo and it asks the roo
[01:59] <DynamiteDan> sudo password in text mode. I would like it to ask in graphical mode
[02:01] <DynamiteDan> The same way gparted does. I have been checking gparted permissions and they are root:root
[02:16] <svm_invictvs> Why does openssh-server depend on python3
[02:17] <oerheks> because python2 is EOL, dead
[02:18] <oerheks> also soon we switch to SSL3
[02:20] <DynamiteDan> I managed to get sudo call ssh-askpass
[02:21] <rfm> DynamiteDan, I think pkexec is the current gui-prompting sudo command ("pkexec whatever")
[02:24] <DynamiteDan> Ahh. It worked for me
[02:24] <DynamiteDan> Thanks for your help
[04:02] <milktoast64> I'm aware of Linux systems using Active Directory for user authentication from some old jobs. Currently, I'm in a new and small org. I'd like to know if there is a user authentication system for a domain where each user can log into all desktops? I'd like to not have local authentication on each desktop per user. Our current desktops are Windows,
[04:02] <milktoast64> Mac and Linux. We are going to gradually move all desktops to Linux and still have small amount of Mac and Win. We would like to not use any Microsoft Authentication servers.
[04:02] <milktoast64> Thanks
[04:47] <Croran> milktoast64: LDAP
[04:52] <Croran> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/service-ldap
[07:47] <mokimoki> hello
[07:47] <mokimoki> is their anyone
[07:49] <mokimoki> io
[07:49] <mokimoki> ;
[07:49] <mokimoki> ;;
[07:49] <mokimoki> h
[07:49] <mokimoki> h
[07:49] <mokimoki> h
[08:21] <mannequin> how to change a luks key?
[08:22] <mannequin> Enter passphrase to be changed:
[08:22] <mannequin> Keyslot open failed.
[08:22] <mannequin> No usable keyslot is available.
[08:28] <mannequin> nevermind i found a way
[09:22] <ELQEYNN> Milktoast64, are you there?
[09:22] <Guest59> hey, I have external hdd
[09:22] <Guest59> with ext4
[09:22] <Guest59> I can mount it on my old intel i5
[09:22] <Guest59> can't on my other new laptop with amd ryzen
[09:22] <ELQEYNN> I wonder how many people use btrfs.
[09:23] <Guest59> how do I mount the disk
[09:23] <Guest59> ?
[09:23] <Guest59> if it does not want to
[09:23] <ELQEYNN> You mount a partition with the mount command.
[09:24] <Guest59> ...
[09:24] <Guest59> I know but
[09:24] <Guest59> it does not work
[09:25] <ELQEYNN> mount /dev/<sd<letter><number <partition name>
[09:26] <ELQEYNN> repeat here the mount command that you used.
[09:27] <ELQEYNN> You use the partition tool gpart to see the partitions on your disks.
[09:27] <ELQEYNN> gparted
[09:28] <ELQEYNN> Google gparted, and you'll find a place to download it.
[09:29] <Guest59> I know basics
[09:29] <ELQEYNN> When you have it on a stick, then run it as a standalone program.
[09:30] <ELQEYNN> OK then, repeat the command you used. And I'll tell you what's wrong with it.
[09:30] <ELQEYNN>  
[09:31] <ELQEYNN> Use the lsblk command to find what you have mounted.
[09:31] <ELQEYNN>  
[09:31] <Guest59> sda           8:0    0   1,8T  0 disk
[09:31] <Guest59> └─sda1        8:1    0   1,8T  0 part
[09:31] <Guest59> it does not want to be mounted
[09:32] <Guest59> mount: /mnt/drive: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.
[09:33] <ELQEYNN> So, do you have gparted?
[09:33] <Guest59> I have, I am on ubuntu 21.04
[09:33] <Guest59> I am not going to partition it
[09:33] <Guest59> it already has about 1,7 TB of files
[09:34] <ELQEYNN> YOu can runn gparted in the linux environment, or download it through yast.
[09:34] <ELQEYNN> And what's the capacity of your disk?
[09:35] <Guest59> I wrote everything do You even read
[09:35] <Guest59> I particularly mentioned I am on ubuntu and the capacity
[09:35] <ELQEYNN> I saw your listing. And you gave the listing here four minutes ago.
[09:36] <ELQEYNN> oh ... yast is another distro. ... sorry ...
[09:37] <ELQEYNN> Your capacity is 1.8 TB ... And you have 100G left.
[09:37] <ducasse> Guest59: it looks like you might be switching up the options to mount, *exactly* what command are you running?
[09:37] <ELQEYNN> So, there is nothing more that you can mount.
[09:38] <Guest59>  sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/drive
[09:38] <ducasse> Guest59: you need sda1
[09:38] <ducasse> not just sda
[09:38] <Guest59> it is sda
[09:38] <Guest59> nautilus can't mount it ether
[09:39] <ducasse> the filesystem is on sda1, not sda
[09:39] <ELQEYNN> Nautilus isn't meant to mount.
[09:39] <ducasse> try 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/drive'
[09:40] <ducasse> and make sure /mnt/drive exists first
[09:40] <ELQEYNN> decasse, that won't work.
[09:40] <ducasse> why not?
[09:41] <ELQEYNN> There has to be another partition that is outside sda1 to mount.
[09:41] <Guest59> okay it did something
[09:41] <Guest59> but still does not open the drive
[09:41] <ELQEYNN> What did it do?
[09:42] <ducasse> did it throw an error?
[09:42] <Guest59> it mounted the drive on /mnt/drive
[09:42] <Guest59> no errors
[09:42] <Guest59> but it does not read the drive
[09:42] <Guest59> loads and loads
[09:42] <ducasse> ELQEYNN: what do you mean? you only need to specify one partition/fs
[09:42] <ELQEYNN> What is in /mnt?
[09:42] <ducasse> Guest59: are you getting any errors in 'dmesg'?
[09:43] <ELQEYNN> Where is the /mnt partition?
[09:43] <ducasse>  it's a directory, not a partition
[09:44] <ELQEYNN> You can't mount a directory.
[09:44] <ELQEYNN> You have to mount a partition.
[09:44] <ducasse> you can mount on one, which is what he's doing
[09:44] <ducasse> and you can, you can bind mount it
[09:44] <ducasse> plus you don't mount a partition, you mount a filesystem
[09:45] <ducasse> Guest59: you might be getting an error in dmesg, any problems would appear there
[09:46] <Guest59> [ 1480.207897] EXT4-fs error (device sdb1): __ext4_get_inode_loc_noinmem:4445: inode #12058625: block 48234528: comm pool-org.gnome.: unable to read itable block
[09:46] <Guest59> now it's on sdb1
[09:46] <ducasse> that's another fs
[09:47] <Guest59> ?
[09:47] <Guest59> ext4-fs
[09:47] <ducasse> is there only one disk and the usb?
[09:47] <Guest59> ?
[09:47] <Guest59> it is external hdd
[09:47] <ELQEYNN> I just googled bind mount.
[09:47] <ELQEYNN> You can mount an external hdd.
[09:48] <ducasse> sure
[09:48] <ducasse> Guest59: was that the only error in dmesg?
[09:48] <ELQEYNN> In the google ob bing mount, what I"m getting is about Docker.
[09:49] <ELQEYNN> Is Docker a distro different from ubuntu?
[09:49] <ducasse> no, it's a container framework
[09:49] <Guest59> I am running fsck on it
[09:50] <ducasse> unmount it first
[09:50] <Guest59> did it, let's see  what happens
[09:51] <ducasse> if it doesn't help we'll need the full lsblk output and more logs
[09:56] <Guest59> Error reading block 162529403 (Input/output error) while getting next inode from scan.  Ignore error<y>?
[09:56] <Guest59> it keeps asking me this
[09:57] <Guest59> -y
[09:59] <ELQEYNN> Let me understand. When a machine has one drive it's /dev/sda. Then when you mount a flash drive in the USB, it's /dev/sdb ?
[10:00] <ducasse> Guest59: i/o errors are often/usually hardware
[10:01] <ELQEYNN> If so, then how does /dev/sdb get into the /mnt directory?
[10:01] <ducasse> ELQEYNN: first discovered drive = sda, second = sdb etc
[10:01] <EriC^> ELQEYNN: you use the 'mount' command to mount the fs
[10:02] <EriC^> mount /device/file /mountpoint
[10:02] <Guest59> fsck ended
[10:02] <Guest59> drive still does not really want to be mounted
[10:02] <EriC^> Guest59: error would be helpful
[10:03] <ducasse> Guest59: what's the output from 'dmesg | tail -20 | pastebinit'?
[10:03] <ELQEYNN> So, if you have an empty directory /mnt/klop, then don't you have to mount a partition on /mnt/klop ?
[10:04] <ducasse> you don't have to, but you can
[10:04] <ELQEYNN> How else?
[10:04] <ducasse> how else what?
[10:05] <ELQEYNN> How else would you mount a partition on /dev/sdb ?
[10:05] <ducasse> i just mean you can use it as a directory, you don't need to mount anything there
[10:06] <ducasse> !partition | ELQEYNN
[10:06] <ELQEYNN> I'm a user of a different Linux distribution, namely SuSE.
[10:06] <ducasse> same difference
[10:07] <ELQEYNN> yes. The way I mentioned just now is the way I do it.
[10:08] <ELQEYNN> The flash drive comes with one partition. One can change it with gparted . I have done that.
[10:08] <Guest59> sudo dmesg | tail -20 | file.txt
[10:08] <ducasse> not gonna work
[10:08] <Guest59> I want txt file not pastebinit
[10:09] <EriC^> Guest59: dmesg | tail -20 > file.txt
[10:09] <ducasse> we need the pastebin, though
[10:09] <Guest59> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/c17d9414fb73f8ff0e2837f39d8a5391/pasted.txt
[10:09] <EriC^> Guest59: you could do 'dmesg | tail -20 | nc termbin.com 9999' to upload it directly
[10:10] <ducasse> i gave him that
[10:10] <ducasse> sdd is dying
[10:10] <ELQEYNN> OK. It sounds lilke ducasse is making it more complicated than it needs to be, but so be it.
[10:10] <Guest59> well that is fsckd
[10:11] <Guest59> how could it be dying
[10:11] <Guest59> it works on my other laptop
[10:11] <ELQEYNN> so be it if that's what Guest59 wants.
[10:11] <ducasse> how do you mean, ELQEYNN?
[10:11] <EriC^> Guest59: you could do 'sudo apt install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdd | nc termbin.com 9999' to see the smart data/health
[10:12] <ELQEYNN> a simple way: first lsblk /dev/sdb after putting the flash drive in the USB.
[10:13] <ELQEYNN> Chances are that it comes with one partition.
[10:13] <ducasse> i've asked for lsblk output already
[10:14] <ducasse> please don't get involved unless yo uknow what you're doing
[10:14] <ELQEYNN> And the flash drive has one partition, namely sdb1 ?
[10:15] <ducasse> usually one or two, but that does not matter
[10:15] <ELQEYNN> Ok then. Next: Have an empty drive on your hard disk /sda.
[10:16] <ducasse> Guest59: sdd is throwing i/o errors, those usually indicate hardware problems
[10:16] <ducasse> i would replace it
[10:16] <ELQEYNN> right.
[10:16] <ducasse> if it's external it might be the enclosure or cable, i guess
[10:16] <Guest59> ELQEYNN seem to not understand what he/she writes, pls don't spam
[10:17] <ELQEYNN> Those flash drives are not that expensive. So, get a new one.
[10:17] <ducasse> who said it was a flash drive?
[10:17] <ELQEYNN> Guest59 said it is.
[10:17] <Guest59> exactly, he/she does not read what I wrote at all
[10:19] <ELQEYNN> You sant to mount an external HDD ?
[10:19] <ELQEYNN> You want to mount an external HDD ?
[10:20] <ducasse> tthat's the first thing they said
[10:25] <ELQEYNN> same difference. You need to know what partitions are on the HDD -- or other storage device plugged into the SDB.
[10:26] <Apachez> is there a way to force a box to reboot other than "shutdown -r now"?
[10:26] <ducasse> which is why i asked for full lsblk output
[10:26] <Apachez> seems to be hanging on some killing process
[10:26] <ducasse> 'reboot'
[10:27] <ducasse> but it does the same
[10:27] <ELQEYNN> ducasse, how goes it?
[10:27] <ducasse> there's also 'halt'
[10:27] <EriC^> Apachez: you could always use alt+prntscrn+s, +u, +b if it completely hangs, just give it some time to finish sync after pressing 's'
[10:27] <Apachez> ducasse: again, there is a stuck process for runlevel6
[10:28] <ducasse> you can try 'halt -f'
[10:28] <Apachez> EriC^: only remote access
[10:28] <Apachez> but I solved it... "kill -9 <pid>"
[10:28] <Apachez> then it continued with the reboot
[10:28] <ducasse> you're not running ubuntu, so we can't support you
[10:28] <Apachez> lets see if it comes back online =)
[10:28] <Apachez> ducasse: this is an ubuntu box for sure
[10:29] <EriC^> fwiw you can send those using a terminal too
[10:31] <EriC^> (echo s > /proc/sysrq-trigger)
[10:44] <tohoyn> hello. I'm trying to configure postfix with instructions from https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/mail-postfix
[10:44] <tohoyn> what FQDN shall I use? gmail.com or some own domain?
[10:45] <tohoyn> in place of mail.example.com in the guide
[10:47] <ducasse> use the domain you handle mail for
[10:48] <tohoyn> is it OK to use some nonexistent domain, such as mail.tohoyn.org?
[10:49] <ducasse> why not use the real domain?
[10:49] <tohoyn> you mean gmail.com?
[10:49] <ducasse> if you're using gmail, why use postfix?
[10:49] <tohoyn> because I need to send a message with mail
[10:50] <tohoyn> and mail does not work
[10:50] <ducasse> check out msmtp
[10:50] <ducasse> or similar
[10:51] <tohoyn> ok. tx.
[10:53] <ducasse> tohoyn: it's a simpler way to achieve what i think you want, there are other packages that do the same
[10:55] <biapy> does somebody have knowledge on how to use Xspice in a multiseat setup  à la Xvnc ? i'm stuck on how to connect xspice to a socket
[11:06] <ducasse> biapy: try again in a few hours when there are more people here, or try #ubuntu-server
[11:06] <biapy> ducasse, thank you
[11:06] <biapy> @ubuntu-server
[11:06] <biapy> oup, sorry for that
[11:07] <ducasse> might be quiet there too now, but hang in there
[11:42] <tohoyn> ducasse: I tried msmtp. I get the following error: msmtp: the server sent an empty reply
[11:42] <tohoyn> ducasse: do you know msmtp yourself?
[11:45] <ducasse> yes, but years ago
[11:45] <ducasse> i think you need to do something to set gmail up for external clients
[11:45] <tohoyn> could you look at my conf file?
[11:46] <ducasse> pastebin it
[11:48] <tohoyn> here: https://paste.gnome.org/pjshxwpta
[11:49] <tohoyn> I already use gmail in Thunderbird
[11:50] <ducasse> hmm, i dunno, sorry
[11:50] <ducasse> i don't have my config anymore
[11:50] <ducasse> try #linux maybe?
[11:51] <tohoyn> ok. tx anyway.
[12:02] <ducasse> sorry, i was a little busy
[12:03] <ducasse> tohoyn: check the gmail help pages, you used to have to pre-authorize each client, but that might have changed
[12:34] <sashaban2011> sdvdsvsdv
[12:35] <sashaban2011> dsvds
[12:35] <sashaban2011> vdsv
[12:35] <sashaban2011> sd
[12:35] <sashaban2011> vds
[12:35] <sashaban2011> vd
[12:39] <donofrio> anyone here use xfce4 on windows 11?  I can run the ubuntu native applications separately just would like to run the full DE? (in hexchat now from w11 ubuntu 20.04.3)
[12:42] <KBar> donofrio: join #xfce or forum.xfce.org
[12:43] <donofrio> KBar, I am in that channel
[13:01] <dust> swap size at lvm needs to be changed... who is that incompetent to use LV Size 980,00 MiB? and u cant change that at install!
[13:06] <KBar> dust feel free to file a bug report
[13:06] <KBar> `apport-bug ubiquity`
[13:07] <dust> bugreports are useless as they get closed unsolved...
[13:08] <KBar> dust solve it yourself then. :)
[13:09] <dust> yeah... better use another distro... :D
[13:09] <KBar> dust yes, looks like this one fits you: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11
[13:09] <KBar> Good luck to you.
[13:10] <mannequin> can someone file a bug for me?
[13:10] <dust> KBar, no wonder ubuntu is such crap...
[13:10] <KBar> dust +1
[13:10] <dust> KBar, bc of ppl like u...
[13:10] <mannequin> all my launchpad account names are taken so i cannot create an account
[13:12] <Jeremy31> create a unique name, add some numbers to it
[13:13] <ducasse> dust: who was the one coming in and calling people incompetent?
[13:14] <dust> ducasse, who is that incompetent to use LV Size 980,00 MiB... who is that person who did that?
[13:14] <mannequin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-weather/+bug/1933692
[13:15] <mannequin> that's the bug
[13:15] <KBar> ducasse: don't bother. It's not worth it.
[13:16] <ducasse> i'm not gonna :)
[13:17] <ducasse> dust: set up a swapfile, problem solved
[13:36] <MrCollinsGA> Will cron 'delete' files in a folder if another file is found when it actually 'syncs'?
[13:43] <ducasse> MrCollinsGA: depends how you sync, which tool and options
[13:43] <ducasse> MrCollinsGA: cron itself only reads the crontab
[13:44] <MrCollinsGA> for instance sudo rsync -r /src/foo/bar /dest/foo/bar
[13:44] <MrCollinsGA> well I guess I meant rsync sorry
[13:51] <Guest59> hey so I fixed the disk issues
[13:51] <Guest59> for external hdd
[13:52] <Guest59> with ext4, but when I mount it, it's still only in read only mode
[13:53] <mannequin> can someone fix this in stable? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-weather/+bug/1933692
[13:55] <Guest59> look
[13:55] <Guest59>    ..   /dev/disk/by-uuid/56249952249935C9 /mnt/56249952249935C9 auto nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[13:56] <Guest59>  sudo chown $USER:$USER /mnt/56249952249935C9
[13:56] <Guest59> or even my username
[13:56] <Guest59> does not help
[13:56] <Guest59> https://askubuntu.com/questions/252361/how-could-i-mount-an-ext4-partition-and-have-write-permission
[13:56] <mannequin> KBar: ?
[13:58] <Guest59> sudo chmod 777 /mnt/56249952249935C9
[14:00] <ioria> Guest59, usually you need recursive :  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /mnt/56249952249935C9
[14:00] <ducasse> MrCollinsGA: rsync has flags on how to handle files with duplicate names
[14:01] <mannequin> ok i found a workaround for this
[14:01] <mannequin> man debian is so different than ubuntu
[14:03] <ducasse> Guest59: try adding 'rw' to the mount options
[14:07] <lidless> Howdy! Where would I look to start a script when my system is idle and stop when I wake it up? I want my GPU to mine when I'm not using it
[14:07] <Guest59> how ?
[14:07] <Guest59> ? /dev/disk/by-uuid/56249952249935C9 /mnt/56249952249935C9 auto nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[14:08] <pc_> what application is used to open ubuntu iso disk on linux mint
[14:09] <Guest59> You mean You want to mount iso
[14:09] <Guest59> or create USB stick
[14:09] <Guest59> ?
[14:09] <lidless> pc_: https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1464
[14:12] <ducasse> !mint | pc_
[14:13] <KBar> lidless: ask your question on #linux or #bash
[14:13] <KBar> they're the script masters
[14:13] <KBar> i'd guess you can make it work with xscreensaver or its equivalent on your system
[14:14] <ducasse> Guest59: add 'rw' to 'nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,nofail,x-gvfs-show'
[14:14] <Guest59> sudo chmod -R  777 /mnt/56249952249935C9
[14:14] <Guest59> I did this as well
[14:14] <Guest59> I did that too
[14:14] <Guest59> still read only
[14:15] <ducasse> Guest59: what's the output of 'mount | grep 56249952249935C9'?
[14:16] <KBar> lidless: are you running X or Wayland?
[14:17] <KBar> lidless: moreover, is it GNOME?
[14:19] <Guest59> this /dev/nvme0n1p3 on /mnt/56249952249935C9 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,x-gvfs-show)
[14:19] <Guest59> ducasse
[14:19] <mannequin> why is my firefox doing crackling noise when changing youtube volume ;/
[14:20] <MrCollinsGA> mannequin, firefox only? does it do it in any other browsers on YT?
[14:20] <ducasse> Guest59: that is mounted read-write did chmod throw an error or is there anything in dmesg?
[14:20] <lidless> ubottu: I intentionally tried to help them because their desire to go from Mint to Ubuntu was apparent, so I wanted them to feel like part of the community
[14:20] <lidless> Instead of spamming a RTFM command
[14:20] <mannequin> MrCollinsGA: idk, how to install chrome?
[14:20] <lidless> KBar: ty ty
[14:21] <MrCollinsGA> KBar, would it make sense to ask #bash about scripting with rsync and cron? jw
[14:21] <Jeremy31> mannequin: go to https://www.google.com/chrome/ and click the download button
[14:22] <ducasse> mannequin: kind of sounds like a bad connection/cable
[14:22] <mannequin> no
[14:22] <mannequin> the sound is fine
[14:22] <mannequin> it just happens when changing volume
[14:22] <MrCollinsGA> https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-google-chrome-web-browser-on-ubuntu-20-04/  might be helpful if those suggestions do not work.
[14:22] <mannequin> like using the slider
[14:23] <MrCollinsGA> does it do it when you change the sound in ubuntu volume control when a YT video is playing?
[14:23] <KBar> MrCollinsGA: sure
[14:24] <MrCollinsGA> KBar, thank you
[14:24] <KBar> you're welcome
[14:25] <lidless> https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium
[14:25] <lidless> js
[14:26] <MrCollinsGA> ^^^ cool!
[14:26] <lidless> :-D <3
[14:26] <mannequin> MrCollinsGA: it does not happen in chrome
[14:26] <KBar> mannequin: do you remember during installation did you check the "Install third-party proprietary software" option?
[14:26] <mannequin> yes, i did
[14:26] <MrCollinsGA> mannequin firefox might be loading more then one module when it launches. I am not a sound expert in ubuntu.
[14:27] <lidless> Ungoogled Chromium for Ubuntu instructions are here: https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium-debian
[14:27] <MrCollinsGA> sound module*
[14:27] <KBar> iirc chromium-based browser have their own codecs baked in
[14:27] <mannequin> KBar: but tell me how to doublecheck
[14:27] <lidless> KBar: I believe you're right
[14:27] <leftyfb> lidless: lets not suggest random github projects to install on ubuntu. Especially when their main purpose wasn't requested
[14:28] <mannequin> is it a good idea to go 22.04 now?
[14:28] <KBar> mannequin: `dpkg -l ubuntu-restricted-addons` and `dpkg -l ubuntu-restricted-extras`
[14:28] <leftyfb> mannequin: only to help find and report issues to the developers
[14:28] <MrCollinsGA> is the -l argument there telling it to uninstall or mask?
[14:29] <KBar> MrCollinsGA: no. It lists status about a given package.
[14:29] <MrCollinsGA> KBar, thank you
[14:29] <KBar> MrCollinsGA: man dpkg
[14:29] <leftyfb> MrCollinsGA: from the man page: "    -l, --list package-name-pattern..."
[14:29] <mannequin> KBar: i haven't had that :O
[14:29] <lidless> leftyfb: Freedom of speech.
[14:29] <lidless> Seriously it's not random. I've been using it for over a year and I'm a cyber security professional
[14:29] <leftyfb> lidless: that's not how IRC works
[14:30] <lidless> I've monitored the traffic through burp
[14:30] <KBar> mannequin: what do you mean? So it doesn't match? You don't have them?
[14:30] <KBar> What was the output?
[14:30] <lidless> Yeah. On IRC we have rampant bullies like you who can /op themselves and kick when they get all pissy
[14:30] <MrCollinsGA> irc: play by the rules and help and get help, like a community of friends. there are rules to play by.
[14:30] <KBar> lidless: stay on topic pls
[14:30] <leftyfb> lidless: it was a simple request. Lets keep it civil. Thank you
[14:31] <KBar> lidless: not everyone is tech-savvy or versed in these things. leftyfb is right in their suggestion.
[14:31] <KBar> Don't post links to random software.
[14:31] <Guest59> the drive is so slow barely usable
[14:31] <lidless> leftyfb: You forget the entire purpose of open source.
[14:31] <mannequin> KBar: i haven't had that installed
[14:32] <mannequin> did that now
[14:32] <KBar> Guest59: I don't think that it's Ubuntu's fault
[14:32] <lidless> KBar: I'd rather someone ask about it then call it a random github project
[14:32] <Guest59> it's not like that on other ubuntu laptop
[14:32] <MrCollinsGA> KBar is right lidless, what if a newb opens your suggestion and he borks his ubuntu? :)
[14:32] <lidless> was a bit presumptiuous feeling
[14:32] <mannequin> firefox still crackling
[14:32] <leftyfb> lidless: feel free to discuss fuether in #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:32] <lidless> MrGeneral: I'm thankful to have 3 people repeating the same shit to me.
[14:32] <lidless> Or not.
[14:32] <KBar> mannequin: no. you can install them via `sudo apt update && apt install pck_name` where pck_name is the name of those packages. try with -addons first
[14:33] <KBar> mannequin: and see if the problem disappears
[14:33] <mannequin> i installed that
[14:33] <KBar> lidless: sure. but this channel is not for talking about projects
[14:33] <mannequin> and it's still crackling
[14:33] <lidless> Can YOU let it go?
[14:33] <mannequin> maybe i should relog?
[14:34] <KBar> mannequin: try rebooting or restarting pulseaudio server
[14:34] <MrCollinsGA> mannequin pulseaudio --check  then make sure its running then pulseaudio -k then pulseaudio -D
[14:35] <KBar> !cookie | MrCollinsGA
[14:35] <KBar> :D
[14:35] <MrCollinsGA> yay! :)
[14:35] <lidless> mannequin: Can you go to about:config and check if media.webspeech.synth.enabled is set to true? If so, set to false and restart
[14:36] <lidless> (restart firefox)
[14:36] <mannequin> KBar: no still happens
[14:36] <MrCollinsGA> mannequin, was pulseaudio running?
[14:36] <mannequin> i rebooted
[14:36] <KBar> mannequin: does it happen with headphones or speakers?
[14:36] <KBar> or both?
[14:37] <mannequin> let me check
[14:37] <leftyfb> mannequin: killall running firefox processes and try running from a terminal:  firefox --safe-mode
[14:39] <KBar> mannequin: i remember i had the same issue with firefox. dont remember what i did to fix tho :(
[14:39] <KBar> unfortunately
[14:40] <mannequin> KBar: headphones, no headphones, still the same
[14:40] <MrCollinsGA> KBar, could he try uninstall/reinstall?
[14:40] <leftyfb> that's probably not going to help much
[14:41] <mannequin> i could install debian and all would be fine
[14:41] <leftyfb> mannequin: try safe mode. If that doesn't help, try wiping your entire firefox profile:   mv ~/.mozilla/firefox ~   # making sure all firefox processes are dead first
[14:41] <leftyfb> mannequin: lets not
[14:41] <mannequin> but i've put so much working in setting my git up
[14:41] <KBar> mannequin: backup your profile first
[14:42] <leftyfb> mannequin: I'm pretty sure all of your git customizations are in ~/.git btw
[14:42] <mannequin> no
[14:43] <KBar> mannequin: about:support > refresh firefox. it will automatically backup your prefs and put it in a newly created directory in Desktop
[14:43] <mannequin> i written a system to operate vlepy.github.io
[14:43] <mannequin> it takes time and effort
[14:43] <mannequin> you're taking me for a lamer
[14:43] <mannequin> that's dissrespect
[14:43] <KBar> mannequin: just a thought. do you have DRM enabled?
[14:44] <mannequin> yes
[14:44] <leftyfb> mannequin: lets just focus on troubleshooting your isssue
[14:44] <mannequin> anyways, safe mode, still happens
[14:44] <KBar> mannequin: well, then mb try creating a new user and see if the issue persists there too
[14:45] <leftyfb> mannequin: what about moving your profile out of the way?
[14:45] <KBar> that way, you dont have to be messing with your prefs and settings, but you'll still get a nice clean firefox state
[14:45] <MrCollinsGA> mannequin, it sounds to me like there is more then one sound module loading or something when you launch ff
[14:45] <Guest59> sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /mnt/56249952249935C9
[14:46] <mannequin> it does not happen in clementine
[14:46] <lidless> mannequin: I posted a suggestion earlier about setting a flag for speech synth to false
[14:46] <Guest59> nautilus still says it's owned by root
[14:46] <Guest59> oh right
[14:47] <mannequin> i guess i'll live with it untill 22.04
[14:47] <mannequin> lidless:
[14:47] <leftyfb> mannequin: you can also try mv ~/.config/pulse ~/     # then reboot
[14:47] <mannequin> lidless: can you repeat the suggestion?
[14:48] <Guest59> it was mounted somewhere else
[14:48] <lidless> mannequin: Can you go to about:config and check if media.webspeech.synth.enabled is set to true? If so, set to false and restart
[14:49] <leftyfb> mannequin: https://tqdev.com/2021-firefox-ubuntu-crackling-sound
[14:49] <lidless> really dude?
[14:51] <ElPresidente> ?
[14:52] <mannequin> i've set it to false, still crackling
[14:53] <KBar> mannequin: can you share the output of `pactl list clients` while a video is playing?
[14:54] <Guest59> chown: changing ownership of '68fdbd51-a4d0-4e10-b665-156f40dc2a86/': Read-only file system
[14:55] <leftyfb> Guest59: please don't post your play-by-play here. If you need help, please explain in detail the exact issue you are trying to solve, the commands you are using and any error messages you are getting
[14:56] <leftyfb> Guest59: I'm going to guess you're trying to set permissions on some external drive you have mounted. You need to start by setting permissions/ownership with the mount command
[14:56] <Guest59> sudo mount -o remount,rw '/media/ronalds/68fdbd51-a4d0-4e10-b665-156f40dc2a86/'
[14:56] <Guest59> mount: /media/ronalds/68fdbd51-a4d0-4e10-b665-156f40dc2a86: cannot remount /dev/sdf1 read-write, is write-protected.
[14:56] <leftyfb> Guest59: what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[14:56] <Guest59> write on ext4 external hard drive
[14:57] <leftyfb> Guest59: is it a usb flash drive?
[14:57] <Guest59> external hard drive
[14:57] <leftyfb> Guest59: looks in "dmesg" to see if there were any errors during the mount
[14:58] <mannequin> KBar: http://paste.debian.net/1225686/
[14:59] <Guest59> K d
[14:59] <Guest59> I don't even see this drive on fstab
[14:59] <leftyfb> Guest59: you won't
[14:59] <Guest59> so
[15:00] <mannequin> Guest59:
[15:00] <mannequin> Guest59:  you're speaking about external drives when i had one mounted
[15:00] <KBar> mannequin: were there two videos/audios open in two different tabs?
[15:00] <mannequin> no
[15:00] <Guest59> dudes then how exactly I mount it RW
[15:00] <mannequin> just in one
[15:00] <leftyfb> Guest59: you are currently relying on gnome automatically mounting the drive which doesn't use fstab
[15:01] <leftyfb> Guest59: did you look at dmesg?
[15:01] <leftyfb> Guest59: step #1 is to figure out why it's mounted ro
[15:01] <leftyfb> Guest59: it can sometimes mean there's something wrong with the filesystem or drive
[15:02] <Guest59> so /dev/disk/by-id/usb-OEM_Ext_Hard_Disk_0000D31033C1-0:0-part1
[15:03] <leftyfb> Guest59: did you look at dmesg?
[15:03] <Guest59> I did get it to fstab
[15:03] <Guest59> here  - /dev/disk/by-id/usb-OEM_Ext_Hard_Disk_0000D31033C1-0:0-part1 /mnt/usb-OEM_Ext_Hard_Disk_0000D31033C1-0:0-part1 auto rw,nosuid,nodev,nofail,noauto,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[15:03] <leftyfb> Guest59: would you like help?
[15:03] <Guest59> I need help, as I understood
[15:04] <leftyfb> Guest59: ok, then please follow along with the troubleshooting suggested. If you are going to continue doing your own troubleshooting, let us know to stop helping until you would like us to help.
[15:04] <KBar> mannequin: then, this might be it. you got two firefox pulseaudio clients. assuming, there was only one tab with playback, that shouldn't happen
[15:05] <Guest59> I don't think Your troubleshooting is first thing here I need to do
[15:05] <leftyfb> Guest59: ok, good luck
[15:05] <Guest59> I already fsck this drive
[15:05] <mannequin> KBar: so what i should do now?
[15:06] <KBar> mannequin: is "Control media via keyboard, headset, or virtual interface" enabled?
[15:06] <mannequin> how to check that?
[15:07] <KBar> mannequin: Firefox > Settings > Search "control media..."
[15:10] <mannequin> KBar: it was enabled, disabled it, still happens
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:10] <mannequin> hi
[15:11] <KBar> mannequin: Activities > Sound > allowmultimedia keys (or something similar)
[15:11] <mannequin> i told you, i disabled it
[15:11] <mannequin> still happens
[15:12] <KBar> mannequin: relax. I'm talking about a different setting. GNOME's own.
[15:16] <mannequin> KBar: i found the solution :)
[15:16] <mannequin> KBar: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1247619/kubuntu-20-04-crackling-audio-when-changing-youtube-volume
[15:18] <KBar> awesome. well done
[15:18] <Guest59> this - /dev/disk/by-id/usb-OEM_Ext_Hard_Disk_0000D31033C1-0:0-part1 /mnt/usb-OEM_Ext_Hard_Disk_0000D31033C1-0:0-part1 auto rw,nosuid,nodev,nofail,noauto,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[15:18] <mannequin> thanks a bunch people! :)
[15:18] <Guest59> chown: changing ownership of '/mnt/usb-OEM_Ext_Hard_Disk_0000D31033C1-0:0-part1/VIDEO/1599196_10201743194524124_257833396_n.mp4': Read-only file system
[15:19] <Guest59> It's mounted rw
[15:19] <Guest59> whyyyy
[15:19] <icedwater> KBar: Maik: Jeremy31: thanks, I'll check that out.
[15:20] <Jeremy31> icedwater: Post URL from terminal for>  (lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net; dpkg -l | grep linux-modules-extra-$(uname -r) | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:25] <icedwater> Jeremy31: you got it, I'll install the linux-modules-extra for the other two 5.x kernels and try again
[15:26] <mannequin> now i'm freaking out about every crackling sound i hear
[15:26] <davide_> ciao
[15:26] <davide_> !list
[15:27] <mannequin> and i hear crackling everywhere
[15:28] <Guest59> I can't see to make the filesystem read write
[15:28] <Guest59> this is how it is on fstab
[15:28] <Guest59> - /dev/sdf1 /mnt/sdf1 auto rw,nosuid,nodev,nofail,noauto,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[15:29] <Guest59> sudo chmod -R 777 /dev/sdf1
[15:29] <Guest59> sudo chown -R username:username /dev/sdf1
[15:29] <Guest59> both things worked
[15:29] <Guest59> but still
[15:29] <Guest59> properties show owner is root
[15:30] <Guest59> and I can't create files
[15:32] <MrCollinsGA> Guest59, maybe because when you are passing the command you are using sudo when you chown
[15:33] <Guest59> dude You can't chown without sudo
[15:37] <MrCollinsGA> Guest59, ok.
[15:37] <jkc> Guest59: Changing the owner of the device node isn't going to change the owner of the mount point.
[15:38] <Guest59> ok
[15:38] <MrCollinsGA> yeah dude ;)
[15:39] <jkc> In your mount line, for options, add this: uid=xx,gid=yy, where xx is the uid of your user according to `id`, and yy is the gid of your user's primary group according to `id`.
[15:39] <Guest59> sudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/sdf1
[15:39] <jkc> Guest59: That. Won't. Work. I just said that.
[15:39] <Guest59> I did
[15:39] <Guest59> sudo chmod -R 777 /dev/sdf1
[15:39] <Guest59> so what else
[15:39] <Guest59> I did mount as rw
[15:39] <jkc> First off, 777 is the wrong thing to do in basically every single case.
[15:39] <Guest59> what else
[15:39] <Guest59> I could do
[15:39] <jkc> Its mounted rw, but owned by root, so your normal user can't do anything to it.
[15:39] <Guest59> this is idiotic
[15:40] <jkc> In your mount line, for options, add this: uid=xx,gid=yy, where xx is the uid of your user according to `id`, and yy is the gid of your user's primary group according to `id`.
[15:40] <jkc> Do that.
[15:40] <Guest59> from normal user standpoint
[15:40] <Guest59> oh right
[15:41] <jkc> And, no, it's not idiotic. It's basic security principles.
[15:41] <jkc> Unless otherwise specified, all mounts in /etc/fstab are owned by root. Principle of least privilege - the user doesn't get access to anything unless explicitly granted.
[15:41] <Guest59> this should be in nautilus GUI
[15:43] <robertparkerx> how do you check crontab for a specific user?
[15:43] <robertparkerx> for instance 'hot'
[15:44] <jkc> Guest59: I should have asked, is this an ext* filesystem, or something like FAT/exfat/ntfs/etc?
[15:44] <Guest59> ext
[15:44] <Guest59> this is fstab now - /dev/sdg1 /mnt/sdg1 auto rw,nosuid,nodev,nofail,noauto,x-gvfs-show,uid=1000,gid=1000, 0 0
[15:44] <Guest59> I am doing fsck again
[15:44] <Guest59> sudo fsck -y /dev/sdg1
[15:44] <jkc> Ah, then uid/gid won't work. That only affects filesystems that don't support unix permissions.
[15:45] <Guest59> then wtf
[15:45] <jkc> Chill.
[15:45] <jkc> I assume fsck says everything is okay?
[15:45] <Guest59> I already did it once today on other laptop
[15:45] <Guest59> which handles file operations on it easily
[15:45] <Guest59> it has ubuntu 18.04 but this one has 21.04
[15:45] <jkc> Which is not an answer.
[15:46] <jkc> I assume fsck says everything is okay?
[15:46] <Guest59> I am waiting now
[15:47] <jkc> If so, change fstab to this: /dev/sdg1 /mnt/sdg1 auto rw,nosuid,nodev,nofail,noauto,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[15:47] <jkc> Then `mount /mnt/sdg1`. Then `chown -R user:user /mnt/sdg1`, with user being whatever your username is.
[15:47] <jkc> That's /mnt, not /dev.
[15:48] <Guest59> fsck.ext4: unable to set superblock flags on /dev/sdg1
[15:48] <oerheks> what filesystem is on that disk?
[15:48] <oerheks> oh oke ext4
[15:49] <jkc> What kind of disk is it? Hard drive, SSD, SD card, etc
[15:50] <jkc> Because that error almost always indicates hardware issues.
[15:50] <Guest59> why then there are no problems on other side
[15:50] <Guest59> other laptop
[15:51] <jkc> Which still didn't answer my question of "what kind of disk is it?"
[15:51] <Guest59> dudes I'm here whole day I given this information 1000 times
[15:52] <Guest59> ext4 external hard drive
[15:52] <jkc> And I'm not here all day. I am here now. I am trying to help, and if you give me that attitude again, you can wait for someone else.
[15:52] <jkc> Clear?
[15:53] <Guest59> there are random dudes that just read something and starts the conversation
[15:53] <Guest59> again
[15:53] <Guest59> we are 6 hours deep
[15:53] <jkc> Okay, you'll be waiting for someone else.
[15:53] <Guest59> it was written about few posts ago
[15:53] <Guest59> go on tiger
[15:54] <leftyfb> Guest59: your fstab is wrong and gnome is auto-mounting so your fstab won't be used anyway. Lose the attitude to people who are trying to help you
[15:54] <Guest59> if people can't read I don't think they can help ether
[15:54] <Guest59> it's nothing to do with attituted
[15:54] <Guest59> attitude
[15:54] <leftyfb> Guest59: stop
[15:55] <leftyfb> Guest59: this is a support channel. Ask for help and listen to people trying to help you. Or don't. Your choice
[15:55] <KBar>  Just mute them. It's clear they aren't here for help.
[15:56] <KBar> Either a troll or someone who wants to boast.
[16:00] <mannequin> KBar: it's still not perfect
[16:00] <[code]> you get what you pay for here
[16:00] <KBar> robertparkerx: /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[16:00] <leftyfb> [code]: lets not
[16:00] <mannequin> KBar: when music on yt is playing there is a rare, slight crack here and there
[16:01] <mannequin> have you got pulseaudio magic?
[16:01] <leftyfb> robertparkerx: sudo crontab -u <user> -l
[16:02] <[code]> leftyfb: howdy. strage seeing you over here. :-)
[16:02] <mannequin> or maybe it's just the music
[16:03] <[code]> < Trey
[16:03] <KBar> mannequin: disable GNOME's media key handling as well. run firefox with only one tab. play a video. run `pactl list clients`. write down client id for 2 firefox instances. kill the second with `pacmd kill-client #ID`
[16:03] <robertparkerx> ty
[16:05] <mannequin> i got 3 firefox instances now
[16:06] <mannequin> how to disable gnome media handling?
[16:06] <mannequin> media key handling?
[16:07] <oerheks> 3 instances firefox .. pkill firefox # and start again?
[16:07] <mannequin> you don't know what the problem is, oerheks
[16:07] <oerheks> well, you have a crackling sound, mention 3 instances firefox..
[16:08] <oerheks> start clean with one instance?
[16:08] <KBar> mannequin: i think it should be in Settings > Sound
[16:08] <KBar> Why is everybody so aggro today? Jesus, relax people.
[16:08] <oerheks> yeah, i leave you to it yourself, mannequin .
[16:09] <leftyfb> oerheks: I suggested that twice 2 hours ago and never got confirmation that it was tried
[16:10] <mannequin> i guess i just will wait for 22.04
[16:11] <KBar> mannequin: well, it's not going to get magically fixed. If the developers/maintainers aren't aware of the issue, upgrading to 22.04 won't help.
[16:11] <mannequin> it might, might not
[16:11] <mannequin> even by accident
[16:11] <mannequin> on debian everything was tip-top
[16:13] <jhutchins> mannequin: The fact the Ubuntu packages are typically newer than Debian's suggests that "new" isn't the answer.
[16:13] <mannequin> i didn't say that
[16:13] <mannequin> also i'm on lts
[16:14] <jhutchins> mannequin: crackling sounds strongly suggest hardware, like loose connections or bad ground.  They're actually pretty difficult to introduce through software.
[16:15] <leftyfb> jhutchins: they states the issue doesn't happen with other browsers or applications
[16:15] <mannequin> jhutchins: somehow i mostly repaired it by reconfiguring pulseaudio deamon
[16:17] <ELQEYNN> milktoast64, are you there?
[16:17] <jhutchins> mannequin: Well, fixed is fixed, why costs a lot more.
[16:18] <mannequin> now 0 cracling, i somehow fixed it i guess
[16:19] <mannequin> also KBar, jhutchins this is my blog, i want you to see it
[16:21] <mannequin> KBar: jhutchins https://vlepy.github.io/
[16:23] <king_> Hi :) the volume of my bluetooth earbud is so low in 20.04 , I`v tried ExecStart=/usr/lib/bluetooth/bluetoothd --noplugin=avrcp
[16:24] <king_> any ideas ?
[16:26] <jhutchins> king_: What application(s)?
[16:51] <Guest5918> I have other LAPTOP from which I changed my external hdd rights
[16:51] <Guest5918> to 777
[16:51] <Guest5918> and username to same username my other laptop has
[16:51] <Guest5918> when I mount this drive on other laptop
[16:51] <Guest5918> it shows file is owned by me
[16:51] <Guest5918> BUT I CAN'T modify nor save new files
[16:52] <Guest5918> like I can do on first laptop
[16:55] <oerheks> what is the output of 'mount'?  last line only
[16:56] <Guest5918> it is mounted auto
[16:58] <leftyfb> Guest5918: you're asking for help with the same issue that you refused to accept help for earlier
[16:59] <Guest5918> I gave dmesg before that
[16:59] <Guest5918> I refused to do that again
[17:00] <Guest5918> there is not much difference between this and that laptop
[17:00] <oerheks> oh oke, no output of mount, then you are on your own
[17:00] <Guest5918> I am doing it
[17:00] <oerheks> Do not abuse volunteers
[17:00] <leftyfb> Guest5918: you have not given any dmesg output
[17:00] <Guest5918> hope Yall understand that this is going to completely ruin any user experience for future linux users
[17:00] <Guest5918> ever
[17:00] <Guest5918> I gave before that
[17:00] <Guest5918> trust me
[17:01] <Guest5918> I am whole day
[17:01] <Guest5918> and none of things work
[17:01] <oerheks> no you did not,a s you come up with a new issue
[17:01] <leftyfb> Guest5918: I have logs, you didn't
[17:01] <leftyfb> Guest5918: you also seemed to ignore the multiple times I have told you that gnome is automounting your drive when you plug it in so fstab is being ignore. Your fstab is also wrong
[17:02] <Guest5918> ....
[17:02] <Guest5918> this is so stupid
[17:02] <leftyfb> Guest5918: if you want help, lose the attitude and comments
[17:02] <Guest5918> it's way beyond simple fix I've truly tried everything for 8 hours
[17:03] <ioria> there is no reason to use an ext4 with 777 over ntfs or fat32 (that is why those are preferred fs for removable, alias exchangeable drives) my 2c
[17:03] <Guest5918> it's 7 now
[17:03] <Guest5918> it is EXT4
[17:03] <Guest5918> go back and read, the whole day
[17:03] <ioria> yes, but with 777 makes no sense over other FS
[17:04] <oerheks> i never read ext4 in your fstab line :-D
[17:04] <oerheks> lolz
[17:04] <leftyfb> Guest5918: do you want help? yes or no
[17:04] <Guest5918> stop bullying
[17:04] <leftyfb> oerheks: that's because their fstab entry was completely wrong
[17:04] <Guest5918> here /dev/sdc1 /mnt/sdc1 auto rw,nosuid,nodev,nofail,noauto,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[17:05] <Guest5918> what's wrong
[17:05] <Guest5918> disks show these they exist I can see files
[17:05] <oerheks> no 'ext4 "in that line..
[17:05] <oerheks> interesting
[17:06] <leftyfb> Guest5918: you just copied the info you found from the gnome automount which is what is mounting your drive. You should not be specifying gvfs. Also fstab will not get utilized.
[17:06] <Guest5918> cat /etc/fstab
[17:06] <leftyfb> Guest5918: are you ready to do some troubleshooting and run only the commands you are given?
[17:06] <Guest5918> nobody knows these things, user should not be thrown into hacking
[17:06] <Guest5918> if ext4 is for linux drive
[17:06] <leftyfb> Guest5918: are you ready to do some troubleshooting and run only the commands you are given?
[17:07] <Guest5918> why can't share between linux laptops
[17:07] <leftyfb> ok, nevermind
[17:07] <Guest5918> I did
[17:07] <Guest5918> command has no output it just mounts
[17:07] <leftyfb> Guest5918: stop posting here if all you want to do is complain and not actually listen
[17:07] <chrisgt> i would use the uuid not sdc. uuid of a partition will not change, the device name will
[17:08] <Guest5918> I listened I answered You were bullying and not giving anything
[17:09] <leftyfb> Guest5918: run this:    ( cat /etc/os-release | lsblk -o +type -e7 -f ) nc termbin.com 9999
[17:09] <leftyfb> oops
[17:09] <leftyfb> Guest5918: run this:    ( cat /etc/os-release | lsblk -o +type -e7 -f ) |  nc termbin.com 9999
[17:09] <leftyfb> sorry
[17:10] <leftyfb> Guest5918: post the URL here
[17:10] <Guest5918> it's 21.04 and
[17:10] <Guest5918> sdc                                                                                    disk
[17:10] <Guest5918> `-sdc1
[17:10] <Guest5918>      ext4   1.0         68fdbd51-a4d0-4e10-b665-156f40dc2a86  287.9G    79% /mnt/sdc1  part
[17:11] <leftyfb> Guest5918: I thought you said you were ready to troubleshoot and run only the commands you are given?
[17:11] <abhishek> Hi all, I installed ubuntu on an SSD that I'm connecting through USB3 and this seems to have massively improved performance over the internal HDD. Should this be attributed to just the swap that is on the SSD or rest of the partitions as well? Which factor would be more dominant?
[17:11] <Guest5918> would Your run suspicious commands?
[17:11] <leftyfb> Guest5918: not only did you not run what I asked you, but you are also running an End of Life version of ubuntu which isn't supported any longer
[17:12] <ThinkT510> Guest5918: they are not suspicious commands. if you are unclear on what any of them do then ask
[17:12] <oerheks> hi abhishek, long time no see, SSD speed comes from 0 sec seek time, that is the 1st profit
[17:12] <leftyfb> Guest5918: good luck
[17:12] <Guest5918> LTS is right?
[17:12] <leftyfb> Guest5918: no
[17:12] <Guest5918> 21.10 is supported
[17:12] <ioria> !21.04
[17:12] <Guest5918> ?
[17:12] <Guest5918> I also thought it is supported
[17:12] <leftyfb> Guest5918: run this:    ( cat /etc/os-release | lsblk -o +type -e7 -f ) |  nc termbin.com 9999
[17:13] <abhishek> Hey oerheks, I haven'ted identified, so it might be another abhishek, but yeah, even I haven't been here in a while :-)
[17:13] <abhishek> Anyway, I just wanted to reproduce this performance gain, and was wondering if just having swap on the SSD would be good enough
[17:14] <oerheks> staqndard swap with swapiness of 60 is oke
[17:14] <oerheks> c/standard
[17:14] <abhishek> oerheks: I mean, swap as opposed to other partitions as well being on the SSD
[17:15] <EriC^^> abhishek: ssd is way faster than hdd, the performance increase is probably just from it, i doubt the swap is even being used
[17:15] <Guest5918> https://termbin.com/xsuv
[17:15] <Guest5918> I answered 100 times today this is old info
[17:16] <EriC^^> abhishek: ssd is like 2500mb/s read time, normal hdd is maybe 80mb/s if all good so huge difference in performance
[17:16] <oerheks> abhishek, as the ssd is faster, and 0 sec seektime, that swap is faster indeed
[17:16] <leftyfb> Guest5918: you still didn't run what I told you to run. You are done
[17:16] <Guest5918> I did
[17:17] <abhishek> EriC^^: and oerheks: so basically having other partitions on the SSD would be more important than having the swap there?
[17:17] <Guest5918> do I need to prove it with screenshot
[17:17] <Guest5918> You still did not gave any info on how this mistery
[17:17] <Guest5918> is
[17:17] <Guest5918> I know those things as well
[17:17] <EriC^^> abhishek: yes for sure, anything you will be using frequently on the ssd should be good
[17:17] <ThinkT510> Guest5918: if you ran what leftyfb told you to then it would be in the termbin paste you provided. it is not
[17:18] <Guest5918> it gave that
[17:18] <Guest5918>  ( cat /etc/os-release | lsblk -o +type -e7 -f ) |  nc termbin.com 9999
[17:18] <leftyfb> Guest5918: damnit, too many things going on. My apologies.  ( cat /etc/os-release ; lsblk -o +type -e7 -f ) |  nc termbin.com 9999
[17:18] <leftyfb>  ( cat /etc/os-release ; lsblk -o +type -e7 -f ) |  nc termbin.com 9999
[17:18] <leftyfb> my fault, sorry
[17:18] <Guest5918> https://termbin.com/cd80
[17:18] <abhishek> Alright, thanks peeps
[17:19] <leftyfb> Guest5918: ok. I'm going to give you 1 suggestion to try. Regardless if it works, you're going to need to upgrade your Ubuntu in order to receive any support....
[17:19] <leftyfb> Guest5918: first, remove any fstab changes you made. Then mv ~/.config/nautilus ~/.config/nautilus-bak    # and reboot
[17:19] <Guest5918> I don't want to for 1 reason
[17:19] <Guest5918> nvidia drivers
[17:20] <leftyfb> Guest5918: We cannot and will not support End of Life releases. Sorry. Try my suggestion above. Good luck
[17:47] <sabas3dgh> hello you all. I am looking for good/nice GUI font for linux desktop (not for terminal) I am open to suggestions. thanks for your help.^_^
[17:49] <leftyfb> sabas3dgh: try #ubuntu-offtopic for sofware or aesthetic opinions
[18:39] <Guest59> can I connect 2 Ubuntu laptops via USB C cable
[18:39] <Guest59> ?
[18:39] <Guest59> You know, the one, that has USB on one side and USB C on other
[18:39] <Guest59> ?
[18:40] <ducasse> why not use networking?
[18:40] <Guest59> I think wire would be faster
[18:40] <Guest59> for internet
[18:41] <ducasse> then use ethernet
[18:41] <Guest59> ok
[18:42] <Airwolf> Greetings. Is anyone aware of issues with the update servers or automatic updates for server 20.04.3 LTS ?
[18:42] <Guest59> so I used ethernet cables on both laptops
[18:42] <Guest59> what now?
[18:43] <oerheks> Airwolf, no, what mirror are you using?
[18:43] <ducasse> Guest59: are they connected to a switch/router or directly?
[18:43] <Airwolf> I've got a new install of 20.04.3 LTS that reports as follows: https://pastebin.com/2e4Htytj
[18:44] <Ravage> i dont see any problems there :)
[18:44] <Guest59> direcly
[18:44] <leftyfb> other than the fact that you've got a xenial repo added
[18:44] <oerheks> try; sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[18:45] <Guest59> ducasse directly
[18:45] <ducasse> Airwolf: there probably were no updates during the holidays
[18:46] <ducasse> Guest59: probably easier to connect them to a router/switch, if not set an ip address on both in the same subnet
[18:47] <Airwolf> oerheks: isn't that the same as sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade ?
[18:48] <ducasse> Airwolf: no, but there probably aren't any updates anyway
[18:48] <ducasse> see the apt-get man page for the difference
[18:49] <Airwolf> Doesn't it grab a list to check even if there are no updates?
[18:51] <ducasse> it might not store them if there are no changes
[18:53] <Airwolf> Ok, I'll give it a few days.. It can't be too out of date, it was just installed less than 2 weeks ago.
[18:54] <Airwolf> One of the machine is a plex media server, with tuners/DVR and I wanted to take it down during the holidays when everything is in repeats anyway.
[18:54] <ducasse> i'm pretty sure there haven't been any since xmas
[18:54] <jhutchins> I saw a bunch of updates released over the holiday.
[18:54] <leftyfb> Airwolf: there is no issue
[18:54] <jhutchins> Almost like people were working on OS on their own time.
[18:55] <Airwolf> the apt system doesn't need IPV6, does it? I've disabled that on this
[18:56] <oerheks> Airwolf, there is nothing wrong, no new kernel AFAIK
[18:57] <ducasse> jhutchins: the last on mine was 2021-12-21, according to /var/log/apt/history.log
[18:58] <Airwolf> ducasse, that file is empty on mine.
[18:58] <leftyfb> Airwolf: because it rotated
[18:59] <leftyfb> Airwolf: look in /var/log/dpkg.log.1
[18:59] <leftyfb> Airwolf: there is no issue
[19:00] <leftyfb> Airwolf: other than you running mongodb from the xenial repo. That's probably not good
[19:01] <Airwolf> Mongo is a requirement for a unifi router software package.
[19:01] <leftyfb> Airwolf: I have unifi running on focal just fine using 3.6.9+really3.6.8+90~g8e540c0b6d-0ubuntu5.3 from the official ubuntu repo's
[19:04] <leftyfb> Airwolf: you're asking for trouble pulling mongodb from a repo that is probably no longer updated
[19:06] <Airwolf> How would I update that to the proper version?
[19:07] <Airwolf> I used a script from unifi's community support pages to install it
[19:07] <leftyfb> Airwolf: what version do you have installed?
[19:10] <Airwolf> mongodb-org-mongos/xenial,now 3.6.23 amd64 [installed,automatic]
[19:11] <leftyfb> interesting. It's slightly newer than focal's
[19:11] <leftyfb> Airwolf: I'm not sure. Again, I have 3.6.9 from focal's repo just fine. I built it from an ansible playbook that I created
[19:13] <quasselstrippe> hi @all
[19:15] <acresearch> people i have a .gif image and i am trying to reduce its size from 1000x1549 to 500, how can i accomplish that?
[19:15] <leftyfb> acresearch: imagemagick
[19:15] <Airwolf> I just grabbed a script from unifi's community support site. Automatically installed the controller software and all it's dependancies
[19:17] <leftyfb> acresearch: https://legacy.imagemagick.org/Usage/resize/#resize
[19:19] <acresearch> it is legacy?
[19:19] <genii> ffmpeg -i input.gif -vf scale=500:775 output.gif
[19:20] <acresearch> genii:  Unable to find a suitable output format for 'vf'
[19:20] <acresearch> vf: Invalid argument
[19:20] <acresearch> its ok i got it to work :-)
[19:20] <acresearch> -vf
[19:21] <genii> Good
[19:22] <Airwolf> Well, thanks for the help. I'll leave the Mongo package alone; it's working, and I don't want to break it. As far as the updates, maybe there hasn't been any since the 24th when this was installed.
[19:32] <Guest59> I have two ubuntu PCs
[19:32] <oerheks> I have tree ubuntu PCs
[19:33] <Guest59> I have ethernet cable
[19:33] <Guest59> I want to connect via ssh
[19:33] <leftyfb> !enter | Guest59
[19:33] <Guest59> both are attached
[19:33] <oerheks> setup an SSH service on both?
[19:33] <Guest59> do I have to set some ip adress
[19:33] <Guest59> ?
[19:33] <Guest59> it is done
[19:34] <ducasse> set ip address, install sshd
[19:34] <Guest59> why I can't find tutorial on google that is straight forward
[19:34] <Guest59> I googled all over place
[19:35] <oerheks> sudo ufw app list / sudo ufw allow OpenSSH  # and there should be no issue
[19:35] <Guest59> dude I have only localhost
[19:35] <Guest59> on ifconfig
[19:35] <Guest59> for both pc's
[19:35] <leftyfb> Guest59: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-enable-ssh-on-ubuntu-20-04/ first result on google for "ubuntu setup ssh"
[19:35] <Guest59> I don't have firewall
[19:35] <leftyfb> Guest59: then your issue is you don't have your network setup properly. Nothing to do with ubuntu
[19:36] <leftyfb> Guest59: also, one(probably both) of your Ubuntu machines are End of Life and unsupported
[19:38] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[19:39] <leftyfb> oerheks: no network
[19:39] <leftyfb> oerheks: on EOL version of ubuntu
[19:39] <oerheks> oh right, 21.04
[19:39] <Guest59> I don't have eth0
[19:39] <leftyfb> which is funny because they were able to use termbin earlier
[19:39] <oerheks> ifconfig shows the adapter names
[19:40] <oerheks> eth0 is so 2019
[19:40] <Guest59> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/e32507e89204a3cc2407a381a037b557/pasted.txt
[19:40] <oerheks> ifconfig shows the adapter names
[19:40] <oerheks> eth0 is so 2019
[19:40] <Guest59> so where is ip adress
[19:40] <oerheks> i see an IPv6 adress
[19:41] <Guest59>  fe80::1ee4:f5f5:f64f:3254/64
[19:41] <Guest59> ?
[19:41] <leftyfb> Guest59: plug your machines into the network properly. Either both to your router or a switch that is plugged into the router
[19:41] <Guest59> I don't have router
[19:41] <Guest59> I have a wire straight from pc to pc
[19:42] <leftyfb> Guest59: then how are you online right now? How were you giving termbin outputs earlier?
[19:42] <MrCollinsGA> if I have the following line in my fstab 192.168.1.2:/mnt/foo/bar /localfoobar nfs4 rw,nofail 0 0     and I want to run rsync within crontab, do I have to have the folder that is symlinked/mounted the same user as local terminal user?
[19:42] <Guest59> by wifi
[19:42] <MrCollinsGA> Guest59, crossover cable?
[19:42] <Guest59> I need wire connection
[19:42] <leftyfb> Guest59: why?
[19:42] <Guest59> regular internet cable
[19:42] <Guest59> just because
[19:42] <leftyfb> Guest59: why can't you use wifi?
[19:43] <oerheks> MrCollinsGA, ntfs is not posix, so no permissions and users on that share
[19:43] <MrCollinsGA> the 192.168.1.2 is an NFS share
[19:43] <oerheks> oh nfs4, not ntfs :-D
[19:43] <jhutchins> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable
[19:43] <Guest59> because I need to make it work this way
[19:43] <Guest59> this seems logical and
[19:43] <MrCollinsGA> Guest59, you have to use a crossover cable.
[19:43] <jhutchins> That or a switch/hub.
[19:44] <MrCollinsGA> ^^^
[19:44] <Guest59> special cable?
[19:44] <biapy> nfs is still in use ? and a valid solution for network shares ?
[19:44] <leftyfb> MrCollinsGA: not if the ethernet ports are modern and support straight through
[19:44] <oerheks> see the answer with "Link-Local Only" https://askubuntu.com/questions/22835/how-to-network-two-ubuntu-computers-using-ethernet-without-a-router#:~:text=On%20the%20server%20click%20the,together%20using%20an%20Ethernet%20cable.
[19:44] <MrCollinsGA> leftyfb, oh the firmwares have the swapping fixed?
[19:44] <jhutchins> biapy: Yes.
[19:44] <oerheks> no special cable needed, adapters can switch
[19:45] <leftyfb> modern adapters
[19:45] <ducasse> biapy: sure, i use it all day long
[19:45] <MrCollinsGA> very interesting ;)
[19:45] <biapy> jhutchins, whoa.... i must look into it....
[19:45] <MrCollinsGA> why not just go buy a switch and be done with the wondering tho.
[19:46] <leftyfb> MrCollinsGA: they will also need to configure their network settings properly
[19:46] <Guest59> so regular internet cable does not work
[19:46] <oerheks> ! eolupgrade
[19:47] <MrCollinsGA> I defer to leftyfb but you might need a crossover cable or a ethernet switch.
[19:47] <Guest59> I don't believe 21.04 and 21.10 has bigger difference on this functionality I heard from 2003
[19:47] <MrCollinsGA> Its not ubuntu this is a hardware issue
[19:47] <MrCollinsGA> is what we are talking about in this case with the cables.
[19:48] <leftyfb> Guest59: irrelevant. 21.04 is unsupported
[19:48] <Guest59> I don't care, how do You know I'm not writing from 3rd pc with it
[19:49] <Guest59> first of all, this issue is caused by EXT4 not being able to connect to my new laptop
[19:49] <leftyfb> Guest59: incorrect
[19:49] <oerheks> enough answered, have fun
[19:49] <Guest59> I am from 21.10 , I don't care if You think I'm not
[19:50] <Guest59> (or what I'm saying makes no sense for ubuntu overall)
[19:50] <leftyfb> Guest59: the issue is caused by your refusal to work with people here to troubleshoot your issues with your EOL install
[19:50] <MrCollinsGA> Guest59, you should consider being nice to ppl. these folks dont have to help you. leftyfb has more patience then me. :)
[19:50] <biapy> Guest59, if your network cable is between two PC, you MUST use a crossover network cable . NOT a standard network cable like the one between a PC and a router or hub or switch
[19:51] <biapy> Guest59, without a crossover network cable, the two PC are not physicaly connected
[19:51] <leftyfb> Guest59: https://termbin.com/cd80  21.04 is running on the machine you're trying to get network configured for
[19:51] <MrCollinsGA> ^^^ or a switch.
[19:51] <leftyfb> biapy: that is only true for older hardware
[19:52] <biapy> leftyfb, last time i used this was on much older hardware...
[19:52] <biapy> leftyfb, (like nfs....v3)
[19:52] <leftyfb> biapy: it has nothing to do with versions of nfs
[19:52] <oerheks> hardware less than 10 years old do not have that restriction anymore
[19:53] <biapy> leftyfb, i know, just still surprised that nfs survived to this day.
[19:53] <oerheks> or maybe 15?
[19:53] <leftyfb> anything with gigabit has a feature called Auto-MDIX as part of the spec. No crossover needed
[19:53] <biapy> learned something today
[19:53] <biapy> thank you
[19:53] <MrCollinsGA> yes me too. :)
[19:53] <Guest59> okay but if I have
[19:53] <Guest59> usb to usb c
[19:53] <Guest59> cable
[19:53] <leftyfb> no
[19:54] <MrCollinsGA> but in this case, I would assume he has older hardware, therefore: just get a switch anyway.
[19:54] <january> hello
[19:54] <MrCollinsGA> january, hello
[19:54] <Guest59> first of all I can't get why ubuntu 18.04 can read my external harddrive and write to it
[19:55] <leftyfb> Guest59: step #1  upgrade or reinstall your machine running 21.04 and your problem of mounting the drive should go away and you'll get support for it here. If you do a fresh install of 20.04 or 21.10, your problem will 100% go away
[19:55] <Guest59> and 21.04 can't
[19:55] <Guest59> yeah right
[19:55] <Guest59> it does not have a single issue
[19:55] <leftyfb> Guest59: then you don't need support
[19:55] <oerheks> flipping from one issue to another?
[19:56] <oerheks> hi january
[19:56] <leftyfb> oerheks: they're trying to work around their refusal to fix the first issue by copying files over the network, with no network
[19:56] <leftyfb> using an EOL release
[19:56] <Guest59> it is idiotic that some operating system made in 2021 can't read and write ext4
[19:57] <Guest59> does not matter if it's outta support
[19:57] <Guest59> I can do it on 16.04
[19:57] <MrCollinsGA> leftyfb, I think this guy is trolling you and everyone in here.
[19:57] <oerheks> then it must be an user issue
[19:57] <leftyfb> Guest59: it reads ext4 just fine. You have other issues with your mounting
[19:57] <oerheks> one pc is not configured correctly
[19:57] <leftyfb> oerheks: oh, that's guaranteed
[19:57] <Guest59> reads but does not write
[19:57] <Guest59> I did fsck on both laptops
[19:58] <leftyfb> Guest59: ok, we are done here. Please come back when you are running a supported release
[19:58] <Guest59> I did chmod chown
[19:59] <leftyfb> Guest59: did you try the command I gave you an hour ago regarding nautilus commands?
[19:59] <oerheks> 21.04 changelog says the home folder is no longer world readable,...
[19:59] <biapy> does anyone have experience setting up a multiseat config using Xspice instead of Xvnc ?
[19:59] <oerheks> 750 ?
[20:00] <ducasse> leftyfb: he refused to follow instructions 10 hours ago, i see little has changed
[20:00] <Guest59> I did everything
[20:01] <leftyfb> Guest59: ls -ld ~/.config/nautilus
[20:01] <leftyfb> Guest59: what does that give you?
[20:01] <Guest59> so I have to remove nautilus config?
[20:02] <leftyfb> Guest59: as usual, you did not follow instructions and lied again. I'm really done now. Stop asking for help since you refuse it
[20:02] <Guest59> I did not understand a thing
[20:02] <Guest59> why You wanted to do something with nautilus
[20:03] <Guest59> why would I do stuff like an ape
[20:03] <Guest59> I might use thunar
[20:03] <Guest59> how do You know
[20:03] <Guest59> my fstab shows that it should be mounted rw
[20:03] <biapy> Guest59, what file manager do you use ?
[20:04] <Guest59> nautilus
[20:04] <leftyfb> because your mount showed being mounted from gvfs and AGAIN, your fstab is NOT Being used
[20:04] <Guest59> I used disks tool
[20:04] <leftyfb> !op | Guest59 can we please remove this troll?
[20:04] <ducasse> Guest59: fstab does not reflect system state
[20:04] <Guest59> no normal user
[20:05] <MrCollinsGA> Guest59, quit wasting folks time please. be kind.
[20:05] <Guest59> should go through this to get files
[20:05] <leftyfb> Guest59: it's a gvfs mount. fstab is not being used. I don't know how many times I have to say this
[20:05] <Guest59> disks tool does reflect
[20:05] <leftyfb> 8 ... that's how many times so far
[20:05] <Guest59> which normal person does know about gvfs
[20:06] <Guest59> or whatever
[20:06] <leftyfb> Guest59: go away
[20:06] <Guest59> in case yall ever wonder why people
[20:06] <Guest59> have problems
[20:06] <Guest59> over understanding
[20:06] <Guest59> this
[20:06] <biapy> Guest59, which normal person know about fstab...
[20:06] <Guest59> whatever, if I mound with thunar it is also gvfs?
[20:06] <Guest59> it is here - >
[20:07] <Guest59> - >/mnt/sdc1/
[20:07] <leftyfb> Guest59: go away
[20:07] <leftyfb> Guest59: you're only complaining and not listening to the help
[20:07] <Guest59> go away yourself I am here till yall geniuses will get a normal tutorial of what to do to mount simple external hard drive
[20:08] <Guest59> with basic EXT4
[20:08] <Guest59> I can't seem to get one command that would make it writeable
[20:09] <ducasse> Guest59: upgrade to a supported release and listen to instructions
[20:10] <Guest59> https://ibb.co/G9nvpMb
[20:10] <Guest59> I did listen none of the stuff worked, this is last years version, and ext4 exists since
[20:10] <Guest59> idnk
[20:11] <Guest59> 2008
[20:11] <Guest59> the thing yall try to involve is just so I fuck off
[20:14] <biapy> Guest59: what is the result of :    mount | grep sdc1
[20:14] <Guest59> this - > /dev/sdc1 on /mnt/sdc1 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,x-gvfs-show)
[20:15] <biapy> Guest59, what is the result of :     ls -ila /mnt/sdc1/
[20:15] <Guest59> prolly gon crash
[20:15] <Guest59> I can't ls -l on that thing
[20:16] <Guest59> from this laptop
[20:16] <jkc> biapy: He's using an unsupported release, and is therefore off-topic.
[20:16] <Guest59> so this is supposed to be special 21.04 bug
[20:16] <Guest59> this works on 18.04
[20:17] <Guest59> with same e hdd
[20:17] <Guest59> I can upgrade, but which one You gon fix this PC
[20:17] <Guest59> if the gpu drivers won't work
[20:18] <biapy> Guest59, dit you mount the drive manually ?
[20:19] <ducasse> Guest59: you need to show us logs if that command hangs, as that's where the error will be
[20:19] <Guest59> it does not hang
[20:20] <ducasse> ok, try 'touch /mnt/sdc1/testfile'
[20:20] <biapy> Guest59, I agree with ducasse: ls should not be able to list anything if the mount was unsuccessfull.... it's really strange.
[20:20] <Guest59> well it is mounted, I can read the files but not create
[20:20] <Guest59> ls also does not work
[20:21] <ducasse> did touch work?
[20:21] <Guest59> I/O error, dev sdc, sector 76088 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x3000 phys_seg 1 prio class 0
[20:21] <Guest59> I already did fsck
[20:21] <Guest59> on it
[20:21] <ducasse> as i've said, that indicates a hardware problem
[20:21] <Guest59> why then it works on other laptop
[20:22] <Guest59> it also has unsupported ubuntu
[20:22] <ducasse> you might be able to write and still have it throw errors, did you check the logs on the other machine?
[20:22] <biapy> Guest59, my guest is a usb problem rather than a disk problem
[20:22] <ducasse> yeah i suggested that earlier
[20:23] <Guest59> lol I have usb 2.0 and 3.0 on this
[20:23] <Guest59> both work fine
[20:23] <Guest59> for mouse and devices
[20:23] <Guest59> except this one
[20:23] <ducasse> i'm just telling you what i/o error indicates
[20:23] <biapy> Guest59, some device can be incompatible with newer usb... check on a third machine if you can
[20:24] <Guest59> okay, this gon be real slow
[20:24] <Guest59> 150 gb
[20:24] <Guest59> to move
[20:25] <Guest59> I understand formatting this device
[20:25] <Guest59> will make it work
[20:25] <Guest59> after I save everything manually on old pc
[20:25] <biapy> Guest59, not so sure...
[20:25] <ducasse> if the disk is shot, it's shot
[20:26] <Guest59> yeah well it does not seem shot on old laptop
[20:26] <ducasse> check the logs
[20:27] <leftyfb> ducasse: I told them to check dmesg 3 times several hour ago. Nothing but refusal
[20:28] <Guest59> I really can't find
[20:28] <Guest59> nothing on old laptop
[20:28] <ducasse> i did that about 10 hours aho
[20:28] <Guest59> I checked dmesg and it's almost clear
[20:29] <Guest59> I am still thinking the drive will work after format
[20:29] <Guest59> it usually does
[20:29] <Guest59> it has not been moved physically at all
[20:30] <ducasse> check the smart values to see what state it's in
[20:32] <biapy> Guest59, if nothing is important on disk, good luck with that... i recommand using a factory reset software (once upon a time Ultimate Boot CD was a good tool for that)
[20:38] <trafficjam> why does my nameserver in resolv.conf keep being overwritten to 127.0.0.53?
[20:39] <leftyfb> trafficjam: systemd-resolved
[20:39] <leftyfb> trafficjam: what is your actual issue?
[20:39] <trafficjam> that is my issue,i want it to remain 1.1.1.1
[20:40] <leftyfb> trafficjam: It probably is. To find your configured nameservers, run systemd-resolve --status | grep --color=auto "DNS Servers"
[20:40] <leftyfb> trafficjam: nameservers should be configured in network manager or in netplan, not in /etc/resolv.conf
[20:41] <trafficjam> ah ok, thanks
[20:42] <leftyfb> trafficjam: ideally, you should be getting your nameservers from DHCP
[20:42] <trafficjam> i just changed it manually in the wifi settings, that should do the trick
[20:43] <leftyfb> trafficjam: what's wrong with what was given to your machine via DHCP
[20:43] <trafficjam> it didn't allow me to connect to the local network
[20:43] <trafficjam> i get some dns resolve issue if i remember correctly
[20:43] <trafficjam> only works if i set it to 1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8, etc
[20:43] <leftyfb> trafficjam: setting your nameserver to 1.1.1.1 will most certainly prevent you from resolving local hostnames
[20:44] <trafficjam> i'll try changing the nameserver in resolv.conf back to 127.0.0.53, one sec
[20:45] <leftyfb> trafficjam: if you want to resolve local hostnames, then your DHCP server should be handing out ONLY the ip of your local resolver, typically your gateway/router. Your router is usually then configured to use some public nameserver like 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 for dns forwarding to external networks
[20:47] <trafficjam> well that wasn't happening, i wasn't able to access my local network (or at least i couldn't ping any hosts) without setting the nameserver to something else in resolv.conf
[20:47] <leftyfb> trafficjam: that's not how DNS works. If you are using 1.1.1.1 and/or 8.8.8.8, you will not be able to resolve local hostnames
[20:48] <leftyfb> trafficjam: put resolv.conf back and check systemd-resolved like I showed above to see which nameserver(s) is(are) configured
[20:49] <trafficjam> leftyfb: what should that systemd-resolve command show?
[20:49] <leftyfb> trafficjam: configured nameserver(s). What are they?
[20:50] <trafficjam> i just get 172.20.0.1
[20:50] <leftyfb> trafficjam: is that your router?
[20:50] <trafficjam> i have no idea, im in a hotel
[20:50] <leftyfb> trafficjam: um. Why do you need to resolve local hostnames at a hotel?
[20:51] <leftyfb> trafficjam: it's very possible(if they were smart) the hotel has disabled local DNS
[20:51] <trafficjam> my networking knowledge is very basic so a lot of these terms i don't really understand, all i'm saying is that i'm unable to access the internet unless i change the nameserver value in resolv.conf
[20:52] <leftyfb> trafficjam: ah, so the hotel probably has you behind a portal or paywall or something
[20:52] <leftyfb> trafficjam: limiting access via DNS ... which is security through obscurity
[20:52] <trafficjam> yeah there's a web page which you need to click "accept terms" or whatever to get access to the internet, but i can't access that page without first changing resolv.conf
[20:53] <leftyfb> trafficjam: in this case, I wouldn't spend much more time on it. Just edit the wifi profile with cloudflare's nameserver and be done with it
[20:53] <trafficjam> tried that, doesn't seem to work though
[20:53] <oerheks> smart hotel
[20:54] <trafficjam> oerheks: i dont think its intentional
[20:54] <leftyfb> trafficjam: edit the wifi network config as stated and then disconnect and reconnect to wifi
[20:54] <trafficjam> ok, one sec
[20:55] <trafficjam> i did try that before by the way, not sure if i disconnected and reconnected after though
[20:56] <trafficjam> yeah the not reconnecting was the issue, thanks leftyfb
[21:27] <id_tam> lmao
[21:27] <id_tam> lmaaaa
[21:27] <id_tam> lmao :D
[21:29] <leftyfb> id_tam: can we help you with something?
[22:32] <tcurdt> I am trying this "sudo chsh -s /usr/bin/git-shell username" and are getting "chsh: PAM: Authentication token is no longer valid; new one required" and I don't quite understand why. Any thoughts?
[22:50] <oerheks> root password no longer valid, but does this happen on ubuntu?
[23:13] <eflister81> hi, i have 21.10 and am trying to share screen/files with my mac (11.6.2, built in VNC client "screen sharing" app).  both are on same wifi network.  i have screen and media sharing set to active.  i can see my mac share from ubuntu, mac can ping ubuntu's ip, but can't see screen or files.  i've tried "go to server" with
[23:13] <eflister81> "vnc://computer-name.local" (as suggested by ubuntu's screen sharing dialog, "vnc://computer-name", "vnc://ip-address", "smb://computer-name.local", "smb://computer-name", and "smb://ip-address"
[23:22] <zenof> eflister81: you might want to start a vnc server on your ubuntu?