[00:06] <eflister95> hi, i have 21.10 and am trying to share screen/files with my mac (11.6.2, built in VNC client "screen sharing" app).  both are on same wifi network.  i have screen and media sharing set to active.  i can see my mac share from ubuntu, mac can ping ubuntu's ip, but can't see screen or files.  i've tried "go to server" with "vnc://computer-name.local"
[00:06] <eflister95> (as suggested by ubuntu's screen sharing dialog, "vnc://computer-name", "vnc://ip-address", "smb://computer-name.local", "smb://computer-name", and "smb://ip-address"  i've also apt-get installed samba, which does let the mac see directories where i click "share this folder" under "local network share."  but i can't connect with my ubuntu
[00:06] <eflister95> username/pw, and even as guest, i can't open directories even when i click "guest access (for people without a user account)".
[00:11] <zenof> eflister81: you might want to start a vnc server on your ubuntu?
[00:12] <eflister95> zenof: shouldn't that be what setting screen sharing to active in settings should do?
[00:13] <zenof> Screen sharing is "on"? What's about the "networks" section?
[00:15] <eflister95> well "active":)   under network everything is disabled cuz i'm just on wifi.  under wifi, it shows my connected network and clicking the gear shows my ip etc
[00:17] <zenof> but, in sharing's setting I think you have to select which network you want to allow to access your vnc-server
[00:17] <eflister95> there's a toggle for my current wifi network which is enabled
[00:17] <zenof> okay, that's what I meant.
[00:18] <zenof> now, did you try to ssh from your mac into your ubuntu?
[00:18] <eflister95> i'll give it a try, is it just ssh <ip> ?
[00:19] <zenof> ssh <user>@ip
[00:19] <zenof> if users not the same
[00:19] <eflister95> connection refused
[00:20] <zenof> and of course you have to enable that one in the settings right below the vnc part...
[00:20] <eflister95> under sharing?  i only have screen and media
[00:20] <zenof> Impish, right?
[00:21] <eflister95> 21.10
[00:23] <zenof> okay, strange enough, so, at least you didn't install an ssh server manually.  can you at least ping your ubuntu?
[00:23] <eflister95> yeah ping works
[00:23] <zenof> does you router block any ports?
[00:24] <eflister95> i never set any blocks up, would it by default?  when i dig through its setup pages i don't see anything like that, any way to verify?
[00:25] <zenof> maybe something like "allow clients to..."
[00:27] <eflister95> would it be under "block services"?  nothing under there
[00:27] <zenof> well you could do a  nmap -p 5900 yourIPhere
[00:27] <zenof> which is the vnc standard port.
[00:28] <zenof> I have a setting in my router that is more general, like a "let clients see each other or not"
[00:28] <zenof> but this may vary a lot
[00:31] <eflister95> well ubuntu can see the mac's files, and mac can see the directories i set to network shares on ubuntu, it just can't open them.  nmap 5900 on ubuntu to itself sees port open for vnc
[00:32] <zenof> okay, but you need to see the open ports from the mac'S point of view ;)
[00:32] <zenof> do you have nmap available on you mac?
[00:33] <eflister95> no, does netstat do what we want?
[00:35] <tcurdt-> eflister95 netstat -nl
[00:36] <eflister95> a bunch of stuff, but grepping for ubuntu's ip shows nothing
[00:37] <eflister95> but from what i can tell this is only currently open sockets?
[00:41] <zenof> eflister95: is you vnc ( I suppose vino) running at all?
[00:41] <zenof> ps aux | grep vino
[00:41] <eflister95> seems to be
[00:42] <Peter1> Could somene tell me the corect way to use rhash from the comand line? I am trying this:
[00:42] <Peter1> rhash -v --sha256 -simple -o= </home/user/Documents/2839/AA.zip.sha2> /home/user/Documents/2839/AA.zip
[00:42] <Peter1> thrash -v -simple --sha256 /home/user/Documents/2839/AA.zip -o=</home/user/Documents/2839/AA.zip.sha2>
[00:42] <Peter1> But it keeps showing me this:
[00:42] <Peter1> Format string is: %{sha-256}  %p\n
[00:42] <Peter1> Thought it creates the output file it should. But with the absolute path of the file. that is this:
[00:42] <Peter1> sha256hash /home/user/Documents/2839/AA.zip Instead of this:
[00:45] <eflister95> zenof: wait, i think that grep hit was showing the ps process itself, i don't see vino under "processes" in  system monitor
[00:46] <zenof> yes, it usually would show the grep that is still running, plus the actual server
[00:46] <eflister95> ok then, no -- shouldn't setting screen sharing to active have started it?
[00:47] <zenof> _but_: I am not sure if vino is the default in Impish, I just happen to use it.
[00:47] <zenof> yes, it should have, try manually.
[00:48] <eflister95> macports had nmap, mac shows 5900 open for vnc on ubuntu's ip
[00:50] <zenof> which probably means you have some (vnc) service running.
[00:50] <eflister95> is there a way to check which process has that port?
[00:51] <zenof> ah, wait. wayland or x11?
[00:51] <eflister95> in "about" in settings it says wayland, i don't remember picking one or the other
[00:54] <zenof> okay okay. then, the vino thing is obsolete.
[00:54] <zenof> sorry for not askin that earlier ;)
[00:56] <Guest6> Hello i want to know if i have to be a communist to use and like linux or i can adhere to diffetent political philosophies
[00:57] <Guest6> Thanks
[00:58] <eflister95> netstat -ano - p tcp | grep 5900 shows "gnome-remote-"
[00:59] <zenof> run from mac?
[00:59] <eflister95> no i installed net-tools on ubuntu
[01:00] <zenof> ah, okay, bust at least we know that gnome-remote-desktop is running, and listening on the right port
[01:01] <zenof> now, you still want to check if you can connect on this port through your wifi
[01:01] <zenof> or rather, see if it's open
[01:02] <eflister95> ps shows gnome-remote-desktop-daemon
[01:02] <eflister95> yeah i mentioned above that nmap shows it's open from mac to ubuntu's ip
[01:03] <zenof> ah, sorry
[01:03] <eflister95> np:)  i really appreciate your help!
[01:03] <zenof> okay. now, what client do you use on mac?
[01:03] <eflister95> it has a built in vnc client called "screen sharing"
[01:05] <eflister95> maybe gnome-remote-desktop doesn't use vnc protocol?
[01:14] <zenof> phew, I don't know to much of how it's implemented on the mac.
[01:14] <zenof> could you run a x11 wayland-free session?
[01:16] <dman777> hello, using ubuntu 20.04, everytime I run qemu-system-x86_64 to start a guest I get a terminal window that pops up. How can I disable that and just have it listen on a port when I want to vnc into it?
[01:17] <eflister95> zenof: we're talking about the ubuntu side tho right?  wiki.gnome.org says it's vnc or rdp
[01:18] <eflister95> zenof: it also says "enable screen sharing and you should immediately be able to connect via vnc"
[01:22] <zenof> eflister95: you're right.
[01:24] <zenof> btw, to you have a nother linux box around to test if it can access your ubuntu via vnc?
[01:24] <eflister95> zenof - i can try, it's old/slow/annoying to use.  i'll fire it up
[01:26] <zenof> okay, hope this will at least explain on which machine the actual problem is... will have to leave for now.
[01:27] <eflister95> zenof: ok thanks for your help!
[01:29] <zenof> eflister95: good luck ;)
[02:16] <woontoon>  /close
[02:16] <woontoon> fuck
[02:17] <octav1a> uwu
[04:02] <derek_> in #retropie
[05:04] <id_tam> lmao >:)
[05:26] <eflister> i think i just destroyed my ubuntu install by trying to install retropie following the instructions at https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Debian/#download-retropie -- i was thinking it would install a regular application, but it looks like it started removing every aspect of my ubuntu install and trying to make itself the main OS.  is this what it is
[05:26] <eflister> supposed to do?  is there any way to recover?  it even removed the network apps/drivers, so i don't even have internet on that machine anymore...  is it possible to reinstall everything in apt's cache?
[05:28] <oerheks> eflister, good luck!
[05:31] <KBar> eflister: when did you notice that? How many packages got removed before you were able to terminate the process?
[05:31] <oerheks> boot an ubuntu iso and reinstall
[05:31] <oerheks> KBar,  he might have ended up with a 32 bit system
[05:31] <KBar> eflister: if not many, you can try reinstalling those packages. Otherwise, reinstall is your best bet as suggested by oerheks.
[05:31] <oerheks> beyond repair
[05:31] <eflister> KBar: it died on its own, seems to have removed most everything
[05:32] <KBar> eflister: install Ubuntu afresh.
[05:32] <KBar> Unfixable.
[05:34] <KBar> eflister: always learn what something is supposed to do, before introducing it to your system. You're even using sudo with it, for crying out loud.
[05:35]  * octav1a pets ComputerTech
[05:35]  * ComputerTech pets octav1a 
[05:35] <octav1a> :3
[05:36] <KBar> You can do that in DMs, octav1a ComputerTech
[05:36] <ComputerTech> sorry
[05:36] <KBar> This channel is for Ubuntu support.
[05:37] <ComputerTech> Actually i have a question of Ubuntu, will booting Ubuntu desktop from USB be the same performance as booting from a installation from Harddrive?
[05:37] <KBar> ComputerTech: that depends on multiple factors, primarily hardware spec.
[05:37] <KBar> specs*
[05:37] <ComputerTech> I see
[05:37] <ComputerTech> well does booting from USB still use the RAM of the PC?
[05:37] <ComputerTech> or it creates swap memory with the USB?
[05:38] <oerheks> interesting questions
[05:38] <oerheks> please answer them yourself, ComputerTech ?
[05:38] <PeGaSuS> obviously it will use the laptop/desktop RAM. it would be a 1st to have CPU, RAM and other hardware inside a USB stick :)
[05:39] <KBar> Just download more RAM, if it can't.
[05:39] <ComputerTech> lol
[05:39]  * ComputerTech downloads some RAM, ;D
[05:39] <ComputerTech> thanks anyway :)
[05:40] <KBar> ComputerTech: https://www.crucial.com/articles/about-memory/support-what-does-computer-memory-do
[05:40] <ComputerTech> cheers :)
[06:17] <octav1a> KBar: sorry
[07:23] <Mars> hello!
[08:50] <nikolam> I am on HP 600 G1 Tower, i5 4570 16GBRAM, and I see that memtest86+ from inside Ubuntu 21.10 GRUB (and may be before) throws so many memory errors at me beyond first 4GB, and memtest86 (proprietary) memory test passes the memory while testing in 3 passes for several hours.
[08:50] <nikolam> I can guess that then , even for such old PC, memtest86+ is not viable memory test anymore.
[08:52] <nikolam> I started testing RAM, after Firefox Developer and Firefox nightly (from Mozilla) started popping up tome crashed tabs and crashing, without core dump. And Firefox release sometimes locking the whole machine, when it fills the RAM (happens before too), also Mozilla build.
[08:52] <gordonjcp> nikolam: possibly?
[08:52] <gordonjcp> have you tried different RAM in it?  Is the RAM the right stuff for the board?
[08:52] <nikolam> Does Firefox in snap have some if any memory limitations not to lock the whole machine up
[08:53] <nikolam> gordonjcp, I tried all the combinations, only the combination when only the first slot is populated with exactly one 4GB stick, works for memtest86+ , everything else pops up the error. And it is not dependeble on what RAM is put in.
[08:54] <nikolam> So basically when memtest86+ starts testing above 4GB it fails with testing, spitting an error.
[08:55] <nikolam> And the proprietary memtest86 says it is all 16GB ok
[08:57] <nikolam> Can someone else actually try to use in-GRUB memtest86+ (I am on 21.10) with machine with more then 4GB od RAM, possibley DDR3, but nevermind what..
[10:03] <weedmic> how long should it take to burn a 32GB iso to an mSD on a usb port?  more than 20 minuetes?  or does that seem slow?
[10:10] <weedmic> might even be 30 mins
[10:12] <m4d> Hi, what's up guys?
[10:16] <weedmic> wb m4d
[10:16] <KBar> m4d hi. Do you have any support questions?
[10:17] <john_rambo> Is there a social chat (off-topic)  Ubuntu channel on libera.chat ? I remember there was such a channel on Freenode
[10:18] <m4d> I'm new to IRC so I apologise in advance if i make some mistake in my behavior. I joined this chan since I started to use Ubuntu about 1 yr ago
[10:18] <KBar> john_rambo: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:18] <john_rambo> KBar: Thanks
[10:19] <KBar> m4d: no problem. Feel free to ask any questions here. Discussion related to Ubuntu itself is done in #ubuntu-discuss. For off-topic friendly chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:32] <KBar> What is `kde-frameworks-5-qt-5-15-core20` and how it got installed to my system considering I don't ever use snaps.
[10:36] <phr34k> hey I have a question regarding ipv6 configuraiton in ubuntu.
[10:36] <KBar> phr34k: Ubuntu Desktop or Ubuntu Server?
[10:37] <phr34k> server, it's a digital ocean vps with an older installation of 16 iirc.
[10:37] <KBar> phr34k: `lsb_release -ds`
[10:38] <phr34k> Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS
[10:38] <KBar> phr34k: 16.04 is EoL and unsupported.
[10:38] <KBar> phr34k: consider upgrading to a more recent version.
[10:39] <phr34k> yes I'm looking into upgrading right now, but before I upgrade I'd like to configure ipv6 properly.
[10:40] <phr34k> I've been seeing a lot of slowdowns with connections when dns is involved, and looks like the ipv6 on the vps is not actually configured with the eth interface.
[10:42] <phr34k> this pretty much contains the instructions that I'm following, https://docs.digitalocean.com/products/networking/ipv6/how-to/enable/ - but I want to confirm how the networking config file should look, since I assume if i screw it up I will lock myself out of the box
[10:42] <m4dmood> Hey guys I would like to submit a question: I have two PCs, one has an i7 10700k and mounts Ubuntu 20.04, the other is a laptop with AMD Ryzen 5 and mounts the 21.10...I noted that Ubuntu 21.10 starts some apps slowly, I was asking whether it is a CPU issue or an Ubuntu 21.10 not improved aspect...
[10:43] <KBar> m4dmood: there are many aspects to performance besides CPU model. Eliminate hardware issues first.
[10:44] <m4dmood> For example the RAM you mean? I mount 12 GB on laptop and 16 on Intel pc
[10:44] <KBar> m4dmood: it could be memory, disk drive, etc.
[10:44] <KBar> Tons of variables.
[10:46] <KBar> m4dmood: I'd check each one by one. Does the affected system run on GNOME?
[10:46] <m4dmood> Can you give me some example please? I'm sorry but I haven't too much experience in hardware matter
[10:46] <m4dmood> KBar: yes it runs on GNOME
[10:47] <phr34k> so I'd basically edit the cloud init config like this https://gist.github.com/phr34k/81106779b9f54d3d24e25731f40d34ac and then substitude the variables?
[10:47] <KBar> m4dmood: do you have extra GNOME Shell extensions installed?
[10:47] <m4dmood> KBar: not as I record
[10:48] <m4dmood> i bought this laptop about one month ago
[10:48] <KBar> m4dmood: what's the output of this command `dpkg -l 'gnome-shell-extension-*`
[10:48] <KBar> m4dmood: date of purchase is irrelevant
[10:50] <KBar> m4dmood: paste it to pastebin.com
[10:54] <m4dmood> KBar: here's the pastebin -> https://pastebin.com/9Gtpy6jH
[10:57] <m4dmood> KBar: I don't know if there's something wrong there
[11:00] <KBar> m4dmood: all good. You only have default extension installed. Try creating a new user and see if the slowdowns appear there as well.
[11:01] <m4dmood> well, I'll try it, thanks a lot
[11:01] <KBar> m4dmood: for hardware, you'd want to test your memory and drives (is that an HDD or SDD)?
[11:01] <KBar> *SSD
[11:01] <m4dmood> SSD
[11:01] <m4dmood> I have two SSD, each one is 256GB
[11:01] <KBar> m4dmood: SSD's shouldn't wear out that quickly but it also could be faulty.
[11:01] <KBar> I don't know of a good tool to test it though.
[11:02] <KBar> Google is your friend here.
[11:02] <m4dmood> KBar: of course (I prefer DuckDUckGO)
[11:02] <KBar> Actually, I think GNOME Disks is capable of that.
[11:03] <m4dmood> KBar: That's pretty good
[11:03] <KBar> m4dmood: yep. Refer to this guide: https://www.linux.com/training-tutorials/how-test-solid-state-drive-health-gnome-disks/
[11:04] <m4dmood> KBar: you know, I'm already beginning to love IRC . Thanks again man
[11:06] <KBar> m4dmood: my pleasure.
[11:07] <Jeremy31> gsmartcontrol has SSD monitoring, for some it will show estimated life remaining
[11:08] <KBar> m4dmood: if you still have the installation medium. Insert it and reboot. From the GRUB menu select memtest. It will perform all the necessary tests on your memory (long test takes quite a while).
[11:08] <KBar> m4dmood: could you share the output of `free`?
[11:14] <masber> hi, I need help with my ubuntu machine. I connect to the internet through my mobile hotspot (iphone6) and sometimes I can get the connection through the usb cable, but most of the times the cable connection stays as connectig and I have to manually connect through the wifi... unfortunately wifi is far more unstable than the cable so I would like to
[11:14] <masber> get the usb cable connection permanently fixed
[11:15] <masber> has anyone experience on troubleshooting usb cable hostspot internet connection through an iphone?
[11:15] <KBar> masber: Ubuntu version?
[11:15] <masber> VERSION="20.04.3 LTS (Focal Fossa)"
[11:17] <KBar> masber: are you sure it's not a cable issue?
[11:18] <masber> cable should be fine coz it is the same I use to change and to connect my mac to the internet
[11:18] <masber> in my macbook it just works
[11:19] <masber> it works 99% of the time in mac, if not, then I just need to unplug and plug the cable again
[11:19] <KBar> Should doesn't equal to is.
[11:19] <masber> but in ubuntu it works like 2% of the time
[11:21] <masber> yeah, well as i said, same cable on a different laptop it just works almost always so I really don't think it is a cable issue
[11:21] <KBar> masber: what's the version of iOS?
[11:21] <KBar> masber: also, this "t works 99% of the time in mac, if not, then I just need to unplug and plug the cable again" is not fine.
[11:22] <masber> ios is 14.4.2
[11:22] <KBar> I'd still consider it a broken behavior.
[11:25] <KBar> masber: what's the output of `apt-cache policy ipheth-utils`
[11:26] <masber> https://dpaste.org/GCjH
[11:27] <KBar> masber: install that package.
[11:27] <KBar> masber: `apt install ipheth-utils`
[11:27] <KBar> with sudo
[11:28] <redwolf97> hello
[11:28] <redwolf97> oh my  its yonle
[11:28] <KBar> redwolf97: hi and welcome. How can we help you?
[11:28] <masber> ok done
[11:29] <masber> https://dpaste.org/LTw5
[11:29] <Yonle> Hehe
[11:29] <KBar> masber: unplug your phone and plug it again
[11:31] <KBar> masber: you gotta understand that Apple tries their hardest to lock their customers to their products only.
[11:31] <KBar> None of their hardware is supposed to be compatible with other platforms.
[11:31] <masber> ok
[11:31] <masber> it is just weird sometimes works sometimes does not
[11:32] <KBar> masber: did you replug your device?
[11:32] <masber> so r u saying that if it does not work, then it is an iphone issue not accepting my ubuntu machine?
[11:33] <masber> yes I did, it says "connecting"
[11:33] <KBar> masber: did you go into settings and turn on USB tethering?
[11:33] <masber> "USB Ethernet Connecting"
[11:34] <masber> yes
[11:34] <masber> on iphone, hotspot is enabled
[11:34] <Jeremy31> masber: Might want to run this in terminal before plugging it in to see what the problem might be>  tail -f /var/log/syslog
[11:34] <redwolf97> hello there
[11:34] <KBar> masber install two more packages: `libimobiledevice-dev` and `libimobiledevice-utils`
[11:35] <KBar> masber if that doesnt help
[11:35] <KBar> masber contact Apple
[11:35] <masber> ok
[11:35] <masber> thank you
[11:35] <redwolf97> hello there
[11:36] <KBar> redwolf97: do you have any Ubuntu-specific questions?
[11:36] <KBar> If not, stop spamming.
[11:37] <redwolf97> oh sorry i thought it wasnt sending a messages at all
[11:38] <skynova> Ay uh, do you guys accept question from Other distro but based on Ubuntu? (Zorin for example)
[11:40] <KBar> skynova: unfortunately, no. Sorry. It's not an official Ubuntu flavor.
[11:40] <skynova> Ah okay,thank you
[11:40] <KBar> No problem.
[12:08] <derek_> how do i show hidden folders in dolphin?
[12:08] <derek_> when i google "how to show hidden folders in dolphin" google tells me to click "view" there is no "view" in my dolphin
[12:12] <KBar> derek_ are running Dolphin in GNOME?
[12:12] <derek_> kde
[12:12] <KBar> derek_ regardless, press Ctrl+H or Alt+.
[12:12] <derek_> thank you
[14:16] <strk> Err:8 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy Release #   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.142 80]
[14:19] <oerheks> !groovy
[14:19] <oerheks> EOL, dead jim
[14:19] <oerheks> do an upgrade to a supported version
[14:19] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[14:33] <xiaoyu> hi
[14:34] <xiaoyu> hello??
[14:38] <xiaoyu> hello?? :)
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:08] <belcher> im trying to update tor to a version above 4.0, using "sudo apt install tor" tells me "tor is already the newest version (0.3.2.10-1).", im using ubuntu 18.04 and i suspect i need to upgrade ubuntu first before i update tor? is there was a way to check if thats true? maybe i look at the tor versions in the repositories or something
[15:13] <MrCollinsGA> belcher you have to have a newer version of ubuntu for the channel to support it. I am not sure which is the latest (oldest) supported version at this time.
[15:13] <MrCollinsGA> belcher, some folks may have some suggestions however. You can try to upgrade but it may bork something.
[15:14] <leftyfb> belcher: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/kXHXrNs3gc/
[15:16] <MrCollinsGA> leftyfb, which is the oldest version that is supported in the channel? 20.04?
[15:17] <MrCollinsGA> and btw good morning all! :)
[15:17] <leftyfb> MrCollinsGA: Ubuntu 20.04 is also known as focal
[15:18] <MrCollinsGA> the OP's may want to change the topic
[15:18] <MrCollinsGA> leftyfb, thank you
[15:18] <leftyfb> MrCollinsGA: you meant supported here, not with tor. 18.04 is the oldest release still supported
[15:20] <MrCollinsGA> leftyfb, TY! :)
[15:26] <Furai> Are there an good guides on moving whole server to another machine?
[15:26] <ketiv> Hello everybody
[15:27] <belcher> leftyfb can you help me understand that pastebin? it looks like the tor version i have matches "bionic/universe", what does that mean
[15:28] <leftyfb> Furai: fresh install + restore from backup, dd, clonezilla, live migration using VM tools if they're VM's. My personal favorite is a fresh install + ansible playbook to rebuild + restore from backup
[15:28] <belcher> also this laptop uses i386 arch, that might be it as well
[15:28] <leftyfb> belcher: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[15:28] <belcher> 18.04
[15:28] <leftyfb> belcher: ok, I don't understand what is hard to understand
[15:29] <belcher> i dont see "18.04" written on that pastebin, perhaps "bionic" means the same thing?
[15:29] <leftyfb> yes
[15:29] <belcher> ahh
[15:29] <EriC^^> !universe | belcher
[15:29] <belcher> ok ty, ill try upgrading to ubuntu 20 and see what happens then
[15:29] <leftyfb> belcher: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[15:29] <belcher> ty, i will read
[15:29] <leftyfb> belcher: there is no "20" version of ubuntu
[15:30] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | belcher
[15:30] <belcher> oh interesting i didnt realize it meant year and month
[15:30] <leftyfb> belcher: 20.04 is the only supported version of ubuntu that starts with "20" btw
[15:55] <Sas> hewo
[15:56] <Sas> hi
[15:56] <oerheks> yes
[16:22] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[16:23] <pr3d4t0r> Q. Ubuntu 16.04LTS - we installed Python 3.10 from source (make; make test; make altinstall) and even though we instructed to use the alt installation the basic 3.x installation got munged and neither Python 3.x (Ubuntu, Python.org) can find its libraries anymore.
[16:24] <leftyfb> !eol | pr3d4t0r
[16:24] <pr3d4t0r> What's the way to force an apt or dpkg Python 3 installation that overrides whatever screw up is in the libraries?
[16:24] <oerheks> 16.04 is EOL, dead jim
[16:24] <oerheks> no support anymore, upgrade to 18.04/20.04 ?
[16:26] <pr3d4t0r> Sure - but wouldn't it make sense to try to stabilize this before this box is upgraded to 18.04?
[16:27] <leftyfb> pr3d4t0r: if you've broken python on the machine, you might need a fresh install
[16:28] <leftyfb> in which case, I would definitely go with 20.04 over 18.04
[16:28] <pr3d4t0r> leftyfb: I'm aware, I'm trying to avoid that on this particular box.
[16:28] <leftyfb> pr3d4t0r: you don't have a choice
[16:29] <leftyfb> pr3d4t0r: compiling python on your machine is a pretty bold move with far-reaching implications and certainly something that we cannot support here.
[16:29] <pr3d4t0r> leftyfb: We still have a choice :) the trade off on building the whole box vs the Python 3 package is still in favor of trying to fix it.
[16:29] <oerheks> weird, no support, still trying?
[16:29] <pr3d4t0r> leftyfb: Fix it enough so that we can calmly migrate what the box runs to a different machine before we rebuild it.
[16:29] <leftyfb> pr3d4t0r: good luck
[16:30] <oerheks> short answer: no, useless to fix what is not broken but outdated.
[16:30] <oerheks> such machine should not be connected to the internet
[16:31] <pr3d4t0r> oerheks: It's not connected to the Internet, it's behind our firewall.
[16:40] <jkc> As if that makes it better.
[16:40] <jkc> A more accurate statement is "that system should not be connected to a network at all."
[16:43] <pr3d4t0r> Ah, done.
[16:44] <pr3d4t0r> Fixed.
[16:44] <pr3d4t0r> Thanks for your help (sort of).
[16:44] <pr3d4t0r> There were no changes to the Ubuntu installation, only changes that could be resovlved in PATH.
[16:45] <pr3d4t0r> Putting the box up for 18.04 upgrade this week :)
[16:45] <leftyfb> pr3d4t0r: I would recommend 20.04
[16:45] <leftyfb> or wait 4-5 months and go with 22.04
[16:45] <pr3d4t0r> leftyfb: I think I have to go 16 -> 18 -> 20.
[16:46] <pr3d4t0r> leftyfb: I'll RTFM dist-upgrade.  You're right, it makes more sense to go straight to 20.04 LTS.
[16:46] <leftyfb> !eol-upgrade | pr3d4t0r
[16:47] <leftyfb> !eolupgrade | pr3d4t0r
[16:47] <pr3d4t0r> Awesome.
[16:47] <pr3d4t0r> leftyfb: Thx.
[16:47] <leftyfb> pr3d4t0r: btw, 18.04 will be EOL next year
[16:48] <jhutchins> It's really a bad policy to run commercial production servers on an OS that only has 6 months of support.  Business needs more stability than that.  Compare with RedHat's 10 year cycle.
[16:48] <leftyfb> non-LTS is 9 months, but yes, I agree. Though that isn't the case here
[16:48] <pr3d4t0r> leftyfb: All other boxes are 20.04 LTS already.  This is the proverbial "forgotten box" that had no issues and we all forgot.  Our bad, correcting that now :)
[16:49] <pr3d4t0r> And yes, we run production only on LTS releases.
[16:54] <cbreak> jhutchins: 10 years? didn't they just cancel centos after less than 2 or so?
[17:01] <OnkelTem> Hi folks
[17:01] <OnkelTem> A regular story: 2022, ubuntu 20.04, black screen after installation
[17:02] <OnkelTem> so how can I get into boot menu? Shift doesn't do anything
[17:03] <pavlos> maybe ESC
[17:05] <OnkelTem> oh right! thanks pavlos!
[17:08] <pr3d4t0r> Have a great day.
[17:10] <OnkelTem> So as usual? Black screen, go and set nomodeset?
[17:10] <OnkelTem> but it's a bad thing, isn't it?
[17:10] <OnkelTem> and if it works and ok then why Ubuntu doesn't come with it enabled by default?
[17:14] <jhutchins> cbreak: RH kind-of restructured CentOS.  It was never their main product.  The RH OS is supported for 10 years, extended support available.
[17:22] <theZoMBiE> how can i add something like "sudo ip addr del 192.168.1.104/24 dev enp0s3" pernamently? i dont see /etc/network/interfaces anymore :)
[17:23] <jkc> theZoMBiE: netplan. Makes it easy.
[17:24] <merpnderp> My security script has janked up the permissions on my ubuntu server.  I need to get the updated script off that machine. I can no longer log into it, and only have a single git bash based ssh session to that machine.
[17:24] <pavlos> theZoMBiE: replace /24 with /32 you need to remove ONE ip, not the whole block
[17:25] <merpnderp> Is there some way I can copy that file into the clipboard?
[17:25] <pavlos> theZoMBiE: also try without the mask
[17:26] <theZoMBiE> i was actually tryying to add i just wrote del by accident
[17:26] <leftyfb> theZoMBiE: running that command does not make it permanent either with /etc/network/interfaces nor netplan. You need to edit your network config (netplan)
[17:27] <leftyfb> theZoMBiE: same with adding
[17:27] <jkc> pavlos: That's not how the del subcommand works. The mask is part of the address being deleted.
[17:28] <leftyfb> doesn't matter, using the ip command isn't the correct thing to do anyway
[17:28] <jkc> theZoMBiE: Check out /etc/netplan/something.yaml.
[17:28] <jkc> leftyfb: I'm aware.
[17:30] <theZoMBiE> thanx
[18:31] <otromas[m]> Hi, is there a way to map SUPER + FK2 as XF86Forward on xwayland? I want to use the multimedia keys of my chromebook in ubuntu but using SUPER key to activate them
[18:37] <MrCollinsGA> does anyone know when you setup xrdp on ubuntu, I added a user on setup, but I dont seem to be able to access everything I need to on the system in this gui. Is there a user access flag I need to set to gain that when I login?
[18:37] <MrCollinsGA> or is it a straight permissions issue
[18:53] <onio> I am running Dia version 0.97+git on Ubuntu 20.04. The problem I have is that when using UML the handles for resizing don't work any idea how to solve please
[18:56] <oerheks> dia is an old project .. last update 2016?
[18:57] <oerheks> inkscape is an alternative, i guess
[18:58] <leftyfb> onio: your question is pretty application-specific. You might be better asking in one of these methods https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Dia/Contact
[18:58] <onio> oerheks, I was just going to ask for any alternatives
[18:59] <onio> leftyfb, thanks for the link
[19:01] <onio> oerheks, amazing stuff, never heard of inkscape until now. Thanks
[19:03] <oerheks> oh, focal is a few versions behind, being LTS ofcourse
[19:04] <oerheks> snap gives the latest 1.1.1
[19:04] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/inkscape
[19:04] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/inkscape/+packages
[19:07] <onio> oerheks, great stuff thanks
[19:16] <MrCollinsGA> man acpi? my screen keeps shutting off when I am not using it, at this time I want it to never shut off or go into suspend. When I go to power in settings it just asks about power saving and I have it set to Never
[19:35] <rfm> MrCollinsGA, check the screensaver settings (you probably want to just turn off screensaver)
[19:36] <MrCollinsGA> rfm, ok. It turns itself immediate boot and the power button shuts off too. Wild. Ill check that too for sure thank you
[19:45] <dev4449> hi. hope you're having a good day.
[19:45] <MrCollinsGA> hi dev4449
[19:45] <dev4449> I'm running kubuntu on a  thinkpad t560. there seems to be some graphical performance problems.
[19:46] <dev4449> for example, please see this screenshot from openshot video editor: https://i.imgur.com/5enLpeG.png
[19:46] <rjwiii> dev4449: Join #kubuntu
[19:47] <leftyfb> dev4449: do you have proper video drivers installed?
[19:47] <MrCollinsGA> I was having the issue listed at this link: https://devanswers.co/how-to-fix-authentication-is-required-to-create-a-color-profile-managed-device-on-ubuntu-20-04-20-10/
[19:47] <dev4449> rjwiii: I know about #kubuntu, I will try my luck there if was unlucky here.
[19:48] <dev4449> leftyfb: i915 seems to be the current driver that is being used.
[19:48] <MrCollinsGA> now the prompt doesnt show up but not a new prompt comes out System Program problem detected and I can click Cancel or Report Problem. Any clue to get rid of this prompt
[19:49] <oerheks> thinkpad 560/Intel® HD Graphics 520, how much memory did you allocate in the bios? max?
[19:51] <dev4449> oerheks: I haven't ever set a value for memory in the bios. but my device has 16gb of ram.
[19:51] <dev4449> and all of it is available to the os
[19:51] <Sven_vB> hi :) can anyone recommend a good hex editor for Ubuntu focal that can view huge block devices? I tried an old (unsupported) lde v2.6.0 but it flinches from an invalid ext2 inode bitmap, and contrary to the man page, "-t no" (skip file system parsing) is unsupported.
[19:52] <Sven_vB> also tried sudo ghex but it says it cannot open the file, no details given.
[19:53] <dev4449> leftyfb: Given my gpu is intel, i915 is the correct driver that is being used, isn't it?
[19:57] <dev4449> any idea?
[19:59] <dev4449> I didn't have this issue on ubuntu, I'm having it now that I'm on kubuntu.
[20:01] <MrCollinsGA> learned some things about my issue above. xset lets you make some changes and gsettings in terminal helps with screen issues. Couldnt manually shutdown screensaver
[20:44] <MrCollinsGA> still having black screen issue. the screen just wont stay on at idle.
[20:47] <eksod> cloning bodhi with clonezilla. im a bit slow
[21:29] <Sven_vB> I need my focal machine to serve a single DHCP request so I can talk to my new device and configure a static IP. do we have a simplified DHCP server for that?
[21:30] <octav1a> On 20.10 I just started getting 404 for trying to install any package . Does "unsupported" mean even the old packages are just impossible to get now?
[21:31] <sarnold> Sven_vB: I think dnsmasq is popular for "small" dhcp server needs
[21:32] <Sven_vB> sarnold, thanks!
[21:33] <sarnold> octav1a: they're on old-releases.ubuntu.com, see http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ has groovy directories
[21:33] <sarnold> octav1a: you may find this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[21:36] <octav1a> So should I just manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[21:37] <sarnold> yes
[21:44] <cbreak> Sven_vB: the device doesn't use the autoconf ip range?
[21:46] <cbreak> these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address
[21:50] <Sven_vB> cbreak, it does, at least it advertises one via acahi, but nmap cannot find any open ports on that IP.
[21:50] <Sven_vB> *avahi
[21:51] <cbreak> so, avahi should also announce services / ports
[21:51] <cbreak> (at least the MacOS original did...)
[21:51] <cbreak> well, should... more like, can
[21:52] <Sven_vB> oh you're right
[21:53] <Sven_vB> it advertises port 80, as expected
[21:54] <Sven_vB> I'll try adding an explicit route
[21:55] <Sven_vB> works. no idea why I hadn't tried that earlier.
[21:55] <Sven_vB> thanks :)
[21:55] <cbreak> can't you give your network interface an additional IP address?
[21:55] <cbreak> without a manual route?
[21:55] <cbreak> neat :)
[21:58] <Sven_vB> I had tried that (sudo ifconfig enx00…:169 169.254.97.2/24), but somehow it ignored the :169 suffix and instead replaced the IP on the original interface.
[21:59] <signofzeta> Sven_vB: Don't know if it's related, but link-local/APIPA in IPv4 is in the 169.254/16, not a /24.
[22:00] <Sven_vB> signofzeta, that's good to know. still I'd have expected that it leaves the original IP as is. at least that's what I'm used to from my PCI ethernet cards. it might have deviated because in this case I use a USB ethernet adapter.
[22:03] <signofzeta> when using IPv4, a "real" IPv4 address is supposed to replace a 169.254/16 address.  it's not like IPv6 where you're expected to run them both at the same time.  still, i don't see why you can't set both.  i'm sure systemd-networkd has some config option for that.
[22:04] <Sven_vB> yes, but in this case the real IPv4 address was replaced *by* the 169.254.97.2
[22:04] <Sven_vB> I'll see what happens if I add another real IP
[22:06] <Sven_vB> it's replaced as well. seems to be about the USB ethernet adapter then.
[22:07] <signofzeta> years ago, I had a flaky USB->Ethernet adapter do weird stuff like that.  I don't remember the details, but for starters, under Windows, it'd magically give itself 192.168.100.1 and be totally unresponsive.
[22:08] <cbreak> I'd have used the GUI or netplan to configure that stuff
[22:08] <cbreak> seems more convenient than trying to remember weirdo syntax of ifconfig
[22:09] <cbreak> at least netplan should support having multiple IPv4 addresses on the same interface
[22:11] <Sven_vB> I happen to have a script that dynamically adds IPs for another purpose, so I just copied the syntax from there.
[22:18] <Jeremy31> ELQEYNN: What wifi adapter?
[23:33] <Vercas> Hello. I've done something dumb. Well, several dumb things in a row. Now I find myself in need of a very specific version of a package: ovmf=0~20191122.bd85bf54-2ubuntu3.2
[23:33] <Vercas> It's no longer in the package repos... Are there any long(er) term archives or anything like that I could get the package from?
[23:34] <Vercas> If not - how would I go about building it myself? I managed to find this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/edk2/0~20191122.bd85bf54-2ubuntu3.2
[23:34] <Vercas> But I have no idea what I can do with that. :(
[23:35] <leftyfb> why do you need .2 and not .3?
[23:36] <Vercas> VM with BitLocker... recovery key was most likely on a server of mine that is currently under recovery because bcache shit the bed.
[23:36] <Vercas> Updated ovmf to .3 without realizing that this will change the TPM's measurements.
[23:37] <Vercas> Had a lot of hardware and software failures happen at the same time and I didn't think critically when updating my system. :(
[23:38] <leftyfb> E: Version '0~20191122.bd85bf54-2ubuntu3.2' for 'ovmf' was not found
[23:38] <leftyfb> it's no longer available
[23:38] <Vercas> I know. :(
[23:39] <leftyfb> you shouldn't be doing bitlocker with TPM in a VM if updating the VM software is going to change the TPM signatures
[23:39] <cbreak> doesn't bitlocker have recovery keys?
[23:39] <leftyfb> that would be a #windows question
[23:39] <Vercas> cbreak, yes, but they're most likely on my failed server...
[23:40] <cbreak> oh... no 1password? or... OSS alternative? :(
[23:40] <Vercas> If they even exist (I could've lost them for all I know - I'm not a smart cookie)...
[23:40] <Vercas> If I weren't a complete moron, I would've put the recovery keys in my password manager.
[23:41] <Vercas> leftyfb, the VM itself has no internet access (only an HTTP proxy which limits it to local services) so Windows Update wasn't a concern.
[23:41] <Vercas> I completely forgot about the BIOS code and data measurements. :(
[23:41] <leftyfb> Vercas: all the more reason not to bother with bitlocker
[23:41] <leftyfb> good luck
[23:41] <Vercas> Thanks...
[23:43] <cbreak> Vercas: maybe that package can still be found on old install images?
[23:44] <Vercas> What are the odds that OVMF, of all the things, is on an install image?
[23:44] <cbreak> I have no idea.
[23:44] <Vercas> I don't even have anything to lose... Will download them.
[23:45] <Vercas> But still...
[23:45] <Vercas> Is it possible to make my own package?
[23:45] <Vercas> From the sources I linked to?
[23:46] <cbreak> why do you think the minor version matters?
[23:47] <cbreak> is it the code? or the actual bits of the binary itself?
[23:49] <Vercas> The BIOS code will be different.
[23:49] <Vercas> That's kind of the point of fixing security issues, lol.
[23:50] <Vercas> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/e/edk2/edk2_0~20191122.bd85bf54-2ubuntu3.3/changelog
[23:52] <shuck> Take a look how to package it to a deb
[23:53] <Vercas> Where? :(
[23:54] <sarnold> Vercas: what's the goal? if you want a specific version of ovmf and qemu etc you can grab them off of launchpad, eg https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/21392552
[23:55] <Vercas> sarnold, I didn't know I could get them there. :O
[23:55] <Vercas> Thank you! Will try it right away.
[23:57] <Vercas> sarnold, holy shit thank you SO much!
[23:58] <Vercas> This worked.
[23:58] <Vercas> My VM boots.
[23:58] <sarnold> woot :)
[23:58] <Vercas> Thank you thank you thank you.
[23:58] <sarnold> Vercas: can you file a bug report on this? :)
[23:58] <Vercas> Bug report for what?
[23:59] <Vercas> My problem wasn't caused by any bug, just oversight on my part
[23:59] <sarnold> the tpm measurement changing between releases
[23:59] <Vercas> lack of oversight* I mean
[23:59] <sarnold> that might be entirely intentional and it might be closed as such; it might be a big bug that ought to be fixed
[23:59] <Vercas> It's not a bug at all.
[23:59] <Vercas> It's to be expected.
[23:59] <sarnold> hah, funny, I don't think I never noticed that "oversight" is its own antonym :)