[03:02] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:40] <marcoagpinto> morning!
[07:54] <ducasse> good morning
[11:29] <mncheck> I'm sad when I see problems like webchat76's
[12:32] <tohoyn> I wonder how the buggy Thunderbird / X11 server has entered into stable Ubuntu release
[12:32] <tohoyn> currently TB does not interact well with Wayland
[12:33] <tohoyn> see Ubuntu bug #1932328
[12:34] <tohoyn> is the situation same with other linux distros?
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> leftyfb: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/rwtmxp/i_felt_like_i_had_to_share_what_i_turned_my/
[18:14] <leftyfb> Is that yours?
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> no, fresh from the reddit press :p
[18:18] <leftyfb> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXhYrjDbDVnFri3jJdnQezCwjBIFC7vZGxX2fEG0FmgeJDHzcX9DHsTxbw2fzDv6-HcdtZwH3I8ue3QHdJiSJhHWE_SpOu3mlyBD0tfxSVwYE3SA5amULaI2x2QGnsiPRfyMkpH6ry1MTvItaEG3DYxSA=w943-h707-no?authuser=0
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> cool
[18:18] <leftyfb> mine is pretty bare these days. But I have a new laptop and a bunch of stickers waiting to fill it up. Just need the time to finish my ansible playbook for it and start using it
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> lol@ the hotdog one
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/rwvlm0/my_cat_uses_arch_btw/
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> its our lucky reddit day
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: ^
[18:52] <oxfuxxx> yo.
[18:55] <oxfuxxx> Wouldn't it be nice if ubuntu live usb would let you choose between 2 DEs? like Gnome or XFCE or lxqt, but defaulting to Gnome if the user don't know/care?
[18:56] <oxfuxxx> For ppl who prefer an old style or lighter desktop UI.
[18:56] <oxfuxxx> at bootime, or an option to switch in the toolbar.
[19:01] <sarnold> it would be neat, but it'd make it much larger..
[19:03] <ogra> i think there are tools that allow to create such a thing for yourself though
[19:03] <oxfuxxx> not that much i think, cause theses desktops are smaller. But nowdays USB sticks are often 32 GB or more. However distribs like xubuntu or lubuntu would suffer from that ofc.
[19:04] <ogra> well, your iso download over modem in some african rural area would likely take minimally longer ...
[19:05] <oxfuxxx> ogra yeah but if it was standard anyone can access it easily. No need to fiddle around with tuts apps and stuff.
[19:06] <ogra> i dont think it makes sense as standard but could be a nice optional image to download ... though testing it will take massive amounts of time i suppose since testers would need to run through each single test plan for each single distro 
[19:07] <ogra> (and iso testing before release is already short on people to make it in time)
[19:08] <ogra> if sarnold says "larger" you need to take into account that nt only the image itself gets larger ... also all processes around it do ... (building, testing, downloading etc etc)
[19:09] <oxfuxxx> Yeah.
[19:09] <ogra> also, it would be more of a power user thing after all ... 
[19:10] <ogra> my computer illiterate mom would be lost when she should pick a desktop
[19:10] <ogra> (i'd get a call from her ...)
[19:10] <sarnold> I could kind of see a neat "lets help you pick a desktop to install!" sort of thing
[19:11] <sarnold> download this easy 32gb image, write it to usb, boot it, bring it to trade shows or LUG meetings or whatever, and let people try em all
[19:11] <ogra> yeah, it would be a cool thing for such cases ...
[19:11] <oxfuxxx> Yes and no, cause some normal users would probably like an old style desktop like they used on their PC years ago...but yeah xubuntu or lubuntu are nice for that anyway.
[19:12] <sarnold> uninstalling desktops is not for the faint of heart, so trying out a dozen of them on a 'real system' would be a bit bloated
[19:13] <ogra> https://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[19:13] <ogra> there it is ... 
[19:15] <oxfuxxx> yeah i heard about that 1.
[19:15] <oxfuxxx> but yeah more of a power user things in the end.
[19:15] <ogra> there is also "ventoy" IIRC