=== not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 === genii-core is now known as genii [15:59] o/ [15:59] o/ [15:59] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:00] #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team [16:00] Meeting started at 16:00:07 UTC. The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:00] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [16:00] o/ [16:00] #topic Lightning Round [16:00] * bdmurray shuffles cards [16:00] ginggs mwhudson doko juliank jawn-smith dbungert sil2100 ogayot slyon schopin waveform xypron bdmurray alexghiti vorlon [16:00] ginggs: first for the year! [16:01] * Happy New Year! [16:01] * +1 rotation this week; retrying builds, helping along transitions [16:01] * uncovered some LTO issues [16:01] * in-between, I sponsored an opensbi sync for xypron (LP: #1956362) [16:01] * and sponsored an upload of libzpc for fheimes (LP: #1932522) [16:01] Launchpad bug 1956362 in opensbi (Ubuntu) "Sync opensbi 1.0-1 (main) from Debian sid (main)" [Wishlist, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1956362 [16:01] (done) [16:01] skipping doko for now [16:02] juliank: [16:02] * Investigated ufw <-> cloud-init ordering cycle further [16:02] * grub riscv64 discussion with xypron [16:02] * Raised issues about ESM Apps messaging to the right people [16:02] * Reviewed some APT merge requests [16:02] * Trying to understand the signing policies and keys for secure boot [16:02] * Asked bdmurray to hint command-not-found/focal [16:02] * Reading up on usrmerge on Debian - hint: it's too early to move files from / to /usr before bookworm is released [16:02] (done) [16:02] * A few more RISC-V summit follow ups [16:02] * Experimenting with Adafruit GPS hat on Ubuntu [16:02] * Can successfully read raw data off of /dev/ [16:02] * Adafruit's python library relies on RPi.GPIO [16:02] * We discovered an incompatibility with RPi.GPIO and gcc-10 and waveform to contact upstream [16:02] * LP: #1955017 discussing with snapd team and identifying minimal snapd change needed to resolve the issue [16:02] Launchpad bug 1955017 in Ubuntu Image "snapd's mkfs.MakeWithContent() uses the host fakeroot instead of the snap-bundled one in ubuntu-image" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1955017 [16:02] * Reviewing ubuntu-image classic redesign spec, adding comments/questions [16:02] * Investigating livecd-rootfs autopkgtest failures. [16:02] [done] [16:02] * libcrypt-openssl-pkcs10-perl - my previous 'PASS' sid tests were invalid and [16:02] based on openssl-1.1. Removed (LP: #1955082) [16:02] Launchpad bug 1955082 in libcrypt-openssl-pkcs10-perl (Ubuntu) "Please remove libcrypt-openssl-pkcs10-perl" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1955082 [16:02] * curtin vs rockylinux - previous submitter came back, things get farther but a [16:02] new issue was found. Add rockylinux to the distro list, as other curtin code [16:02] does need this. (LP: #1955671) Asking submitter to help test before merge. [16:02] Launchpad bug 1955671 in curtin (Ubuntu) "support for rocky linux UEFI" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1955671 [16:02] * curtin vs uefi arm64 - Relax EFI check to be more robust to kernel changes. [16:02] https://code.launchpad.net/~dbungert/curtin/+git/curtin/+merge/413644 [16:02] * curtin build deb - the build-deb tool was not easy to use for arbitrary [16:02] people to upload deb snapshots. Use dch instead of sed-ing, and other fixes. [16:02] https://code.launchpad.net/~dbungert/curtin/+git/curtin/+merge/413637 [16:02] * subiquity vs cloud-init - file LP:#1956539 based on user feedback that [16:02] Launchpad bug 1956539 in subiquity "cloud-init, as configured by subiquity, can reapply settings" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1956539 [16:02] cloud-init, as used by subiquity, reset some values back to previous config. [16:02] We're working w/ cloud-init crew to ensure subiquity usage is correct. [16:02] (done) [16:03] let's have doko go now [16:03] - during the EOY break: retry builds for the test rebuilds [16:03] - dpkg merge [16:03] as sil_2100 is out [16:03] - binutils trunk uploaded to jammy [16:03] - gcc-12 update [16:03] - archive test rebuilds almost finished, results pending [16:03] (done) [16:03] ogayot: [16:03] * subiquity [16:03] * added autoinstall support for Ubuntu Advantage [16:03] * reworked PR for checking Ubuntu Advantage token using ua client [16:03] * opened PR to fix incorrect integration test [16:03] * reviewed simple changes in subiquity / curtin [16:04] * implemented subiquity side support for APT preferences [16:04] * currently working on curtin side implementaion for APT preferences [16:04] * proposed migration for libconfig-model-dpkg-perl -> checked with help from slyon. Should be fixed with MIR for libset-intspan-perl [16:04] done [16:04] - GlusterFS MIR review, LP: #1950321 [16:04] - finalized systemd SRU verification (Bionic/Focal/Impish) [16:04] - cont. work on systemd-oomd enablement in Debian: [16:04] https://salsa.debian.org/systemd-team/systemd/-/merge_requests/133 [16:04] - sync'ed klibc to drop the Ubuntu delta, applied upstream [16:04] - some coordination around dbus timeout, LP: #1871538 [16:04] - proposed-migration [16:04] + pygments vs python-django-extensions [16:04] Launchpad bug 1950321 in glusterfs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] glusterfs" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1950321 [16:04] Merge 133 in systemd-team/systemd "Enable build of systemd-oomd and ship it in a systemd-oomd package" [Merged] [16:04] Launchpad bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Impish) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871538 [16:04] + pygments vs djangorestframework, LP: #1955134 [16:04] + systemd vs linux 5.15 [16:04] === Netplan === [16:04] - Merged https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/247 [16:04] - Finished https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/248, in review [16:04] - Reviewed https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/241 [16:04] - Reviewed https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/249 [16:04] Launchpad bug 1955134 in djangorestframework (Ubuntu) "test_markdown fails rendering with pygments > 2.10" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1955134 [16:04] (done) [16:04] Pull 247 in canonical/netplan "keyfile: do not try to write out unvalidated YAML (LP: #1952967)" [Merged] [16:04] Pull 248 in canonical/netplan "Improve routing capabilities (LP: #1892272) (LP: #1805038)" [Open] [16:04] Pull 241 in canonical/netplan "Consolidate the YAML parsing into libnetplan: low-hanging fruits (FR-702)" [Open] [16:04] Pull 249 in canonical/netplan "YAML consolidation prelude: OVS handling (FR-702)" [Open] [16:04] schopin: [16:04] * netplan: [16:04] + Worked on the YAML consolidation feature, splitting the branch into multiple smaller PRs: [16:04] - low hanging fruits: https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/241 [16:04] - prelude: OVS handing changes: https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/249 [16:04] - prelude: Python bindings: https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/250 [16:04] Pull 250 in canonical/netplan "YAML consolidation prelude: High-level libnetplan bindings (FR-702)" [Open] [16:04] - New YAML generation API: https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/251 [16:04] Pull 251 in canonical/netplan "YAML consolidation prelude: new YAML dump APIs (FR-702)" [Open] [16:04] - Port `netplan get` away from PyYAML: https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/252 [16:04] Pull 252 in canonical/netplan "YAML consolidation: `netplan get` (FR-702)" [Open] [16:04] + PR reviews for slyon (still ongoing): [16:04] - https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/248 [16:04] - https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/247 [16:05] * openssl: reviewed a python-cryptography patch to fix the build against 3.0.1 [16:05] * lintian: (ongoing) writing a MIR for libio-tiny-perl [16:05] ✓ done [16:05] waveform: [16:05] * Short week (wading through email from xmas break!) [16:05] * Investigated snaps on raspios (following reports on IRC); kernel needs LZ4 support for newer snaps (needs further investigation to see if that's all that's required) [16:05] * Investigating reports of wifi failure (outdated firmware?) on UC18 [16:05] * Working on adding tests to raqm for MIR (LP: #1951069) [16:05] * Pi meetings [16:05] Launchpad bug 1951069 in raqm (Ubuntu) "[MIR] raqm" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1951069 [16:05] (done) [16:05] xypron: [16:06] Working on enable RISC-V in GRUB LP #1876620 [16:06] Currently I am testing on different architectures. [16:06] Create a Sync request for OpenSBI # [16:06] Launchpad bug 1876620 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Enable riscv64 build" [Wishlist, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1876620 [16:06] [16:06] cleaned up offical Ubuntu bug tags [16:06] merged, uploaded anacron [16:06] sync'ed pycountry [16:06] tried to install Ubuntu on my new laptop [16:06] reported LP: #1956386 regarding Bitlocker detection [16:06] candidate application review [16:06] uploaded debian-goodies so popularity-contest can be demoted [16:06] sponsored gvfs SRU for LP: #1927100 [16:06] Launchpad bug 1956386 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "CVE patch request" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1956386 [16:06] Launchpad bug 1927100 in gvfs (Ubuntu Focal) "Slow file dialogs, open and save" [Low, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1927100 [16:06] overrode a command-not-found phasing crash [16:06] uploaded ubuntu-release-upgrader fixing LP: #1955843 [16:06] Launchpad bug 1955843 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Jammy) "Lubuntu Impish upgrade to Jammy - Prompt shows 'normal' not 'lts'" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1955843 [16:06] alexghiti: [16:06] LP #1956440: proposed a bumped version to Debian maintainers [16:06] Launchpad bug 1956440 in ruby-pygments.rb (Ubuntu) "FTBFS against python3-pygments (=2.10.0+dfsg-1)" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1956440 [16:06] Packaged starfive-u-boot [16:06] Adding support for the BeagleV to livecd-rootfs [16:06] Bumping linux riscv to 5.16 to have a single kernel for BeagleV, Nezha and Unmatched. [16:06] (done) [16:07] actually bug 1956385 is the one I reported [16:07] Bug 1956385 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity incorrectly detects bitlocker as enabled" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1956385 [16:07] Steve is also out [16:07] Any questions on status? [16:08] waveform: what is raqm? [16:08] bdmurray, it's a new dependency of Pillow (née PIL, the Python Imaging Library) which supports advanced text layouts [16:08] Okay! Any other questions? [16:10] #topic Release Incoming Bugs [16:10] We've a fair bit to go through today but might also save some for next week when we have steve and sil_2100 [16:10] bug 1840122 [16:10] Bug 1840122 in finalrd (Ubuntu Jammy) "System fails to reboot from live session or ubiquity-dm - squashfs_read_data failed to read block" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1840122 [16:11] Oh this is paride's finalrd ordering change [16:12] I'll work on that today [16:12] hey, thanks! [16:12] It seems safe and I don't think we should wait another week [16:12] bug 1842047 is something the community team brought up a bit ago [16:12] Bug 1842047 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu Impish) "Flavors should use their slideshows when shipping to the end user" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842047 [16:13] It's surely still important so let's card it and I'll follow up with them just to confirm [16:13] bug 1951519 (that's a lot of repeating digits) [16:13] Bug 1951519 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Focal) "ubiquity 20.04.15.17 fails to build (test_timezone)" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1951519 [16:14] bdmurray: the slideshow one is already carded I believe [16:14] mclemenceau: oh, it is indeed [16:15] the build failure should be carded and set to be fixed for the 20.04.4 point release [16:15] ok [16:15] bug 1955084 [16:15] Bug 1955084 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "systemd unit leaves a process running for the system lifetime but it only does anything at shutdown" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1955084 [16:16] let's leave that for when steve gets back [16:16] and let's not select tasksel this week ;-) [16:16] bug 1952947 [16:16] Bug 1952947 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug -w doesn't work under wayland" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1952947 [16:17] This has come up more than once and would fixing it would keep the bug reporting story at the same standard [16:17] So I think we should fix it but am open to second opinions on the priority of it [16:18] Okay, well lets leave that in the queue for now too [16:18] anyone *knows* how to fix it? [16:19] Maybe the desktop team could help give guidance? [16:19] bug 1955109 [16:19] Bug 1955109 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "boot menu not appearing after manual install of jellyfish daily build alongside other OS" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1955109 [16:20] juliank: has anything come of the mailing list discussion? [16:21] bdmurray: os-prober? [16:21] Yes [16:22] We came up with a plan to enable os-prober if enabled during install, basically [16:22] Have not implemented it _yet_ [16:22] (or simpler, if there is os-prober entries in grub.cfg, or no grub.cfg, keep generating them) [16:22] Okay, so let's card that bug or link to it from the existing card so that we remember to changelog close that bug. [16:22] Is there an existing card? [16:22] There's no card for this yet [16:23] Okay, the next two in the JJ list are tasks of bugs we've already discussed [16:24] so #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-incoming-bug-tasks.html [16:24] bug 1956385 [16:24] Bug 1956385 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity incorrectly detects bitlocker as enabled" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1956385 [16:25] I think we should card that [16:25] This is one I reported and I still haven't installed Ubuntu on that system yet. I saw somebody say turn bitlocker on and off and then you'll be able to install. [16:25] I'm happy to try that but don't want to lose any relevant information for fixign this. [16:25] I guess I should try jammy too but I'd be surprised. [16:26] But let's card it. [16:26] done [16:27] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html [16:27] Oh that's the same failure to build bug [16:27] #topic Team proposed-migration report [16:28] doko: [16:28] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [16:28] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html [16:29] python-crypto: mine, needs removal [16:29] lintian/lintian-brush [16:29] didn't we volunteer somebody to write a MIR? lintian/amd64 in main cannot depend on libio-prompt-tiny-perl in universe [16:29] o/ [16:30] the MIR is almost written. [16:31] pillow: needs a MIR? [16:31] that's mine [16:31] lemonldap-ng: schopin? [16:31] briefly looked into it, seems fixable but haven't time to actually do it. [16:32] (PEM format changed a bit in openssl 3) [16:32] autofs: looks like server is looking at this [16:32] pygments/ruby-pygments.rb: ? [16:32] I proposed a new version to Debian [16:32] that fixes the issues encountered [16:33] see bug #1956440 [16:33] Bug 1956440 in ruby-pygments.rb (Ubuntu) "FTBFS against python3-pygments (=2.10.0+dfsg-1)" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1956440 [16:33] let me look at python3.10/setuptools [16:33] Do update-excuses bugs not show up on this report? [16:33] they should [16:33] slyon, can you follow up on this? [16:34] alexghiti: Is there a Launchpad bug about pygments / ruby-pygments [16:34] livecd-rootfs: ? [16:34] I think the update-excuse bug needs to affect the "parent" package (pygments in this case).. but the bug is with ruby-pygments.rb [16:34] o/ [16:34] livecd-rootfs is another issue with mountpoints behaving differently in the autopkgtest environment than they do in local builds [16:34] I'm looking into it [16:34] ta [16:34] Yes slyon gave it above: #1956440 [16:35] openssl: schopin: did you look at these, or should I have a look? [16:36] libstring-copyright-perl/amd64 in main cannot depend on libset-intspan-perl: another MIR needed [16:36] haven't looked at python yet. [16:36] I can do the MIR for this [16:36] (-cryptography should be fixed) [16:36] I created #1956444 [16:36] ta [16:37] doko: help welcome for the python3.* packages [16:37] lapack/octave: ? [16:37] i'll take it [16:37] e2fs/freedombox: ? [16:37] i'll investigate that [16:38] sqlite3: ? [16:38] I can take sqlite3 [16:38] python-click: ? [16:38] is that still mwhudson's? [16:38] Didn't that need a new mailman? [16:39] That sounds familiar [16:39] ok, leaving this with him [16:39] fwupd: did we start a protobuf transition? [16:40] no [16:41] I'll look at it later [16:41] systemd: ? [16:41] curl: ftbfs ... ? [16:41] systemd is on me, currently investigating [16:42] ubuntu-release-upgrader / update-manager? [16:42] (or actually testing a fix) [16:42] there were some LP network failures which caused the u-r-u issue [16:42] maybe the same with curl? [16:42] I'll have a look at curl [16:42] i just gave back the build of curl / amd64, it failed without a log [16:42] Man, that was gonna be my easy win [16:43] :D [16:43] anything later was uploaded today, that's it [16:43] Okay, thanks doko! [16:43] #topic AOB [16:44] Okay, thanks everybody. [16:44] #endmeeting [16:44] Meeting ended at 16:44:30 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-01-06-16.00.moin.txt [16:48] Thank you for all your hard work guys [16:49] :) [19:12] o/ [19:12] o/ [19:12] uh ? [19:13] waves [19:13] one hour to go [19:13] 45 minutes and we leave [19:13] :P [19:14] keep calm [19:14] can we leave now I am falling asleep [19:15] hi genii [19:15] could you be seriuos [19:15] :P [19:16] I’ll be back in a few minutes [19:16] ok [19:16] * genii makes sure a fresh batch of coffee is going [19:16] yoohoo [19:18] Kilos: Mostly I idle during meetings since I'm not usually in any of them, but am always glad to provide coffee on request :) [19:18] genii thank you so much [19:23] * genii goes back to tending the coffeepot [19:24] no more coffee, then you won't sleep tonight [19:24] lol [19:27] i need to stay awake for th meeting [19:38] ok i'm ready [19:39] lol [19:39] :P [19:39] hi Wild_Man ;) [19:39] glad to see you [19:41] hi Wild_Man [19:44] hi nicoz- and Mr_Pan good to see you both, be back in a few minutes I am getting ready [19:44] Wild_Man, ok [19:49] hi Bashing-om [19:50] Mr_Pan: :D Pleased you are here - we get settled up and do this :D [19:50] all right bashing-om? [19:51] Bashing-om, we are (me and Carlin0 ) ready [19:51] :P [19:51] nicoz-: Yup - all here under control :D You ? [19:51] hi all [19:52] yes it is all right, i'm always studying :P [19:52] Carlin0: Welcome to the fold. [19:53] nicoz-: Such is life :P [19:53] My English is really poor [19:53] Hello all! I'll have to miss part of today's meeting but yay for starting off the new year with two candidates for membership! [19:54] Carlin0, reverso, deepl, google translate are your friends ;) [19:55] Mr_Pan, i know them well [19:55] I haven't heard of deepl before, thanks [19:55] hi madhens nice to hear you [19:55] Carlin0: nicoz-: has offered his services to translate in the event there is any difficulties :D [19:55] ;) [19:56] i am here ;) [19:56] Bashing-om, I'll take advantage [19:57] Carlin0: It's Ubuntu - we can overcome ! [19:58] I suggested to him to prepare a presentative speech [20:01] welcome everyone [20:01] Kilos, thank u [20:01] okie dokie [20:02] here we go [20:02] hi diddledani [20:02] .startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board [20:02] * diddledani prods bot [20:02] .startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board [20:02] have I forgotten the command again? [20:02] # [20:02] bah [20:03] #startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board [20:03] Meeting started at 20:03:02 UTC. The chair is diddledani. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [20:03] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [20:03] there we go [20:03] :D lol [20:03] thanks :-) [20:03] ;* [20:03] here comes the big paste [20:03] Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for 6th January 2022 (yes, 2022!). The wiki page for the Review Boards is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards [20:03] We will attempt to get through all the applicants that have added themselves to that list, or posted a thread to the Ubuntu Discourse, before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the complete list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. [20:03] The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). [20:03] Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page or Ubuntu Discourse thread. After the introduction, the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. [20:03] During this time, it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. [20:03] When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If most of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (Feel free congratulate them!) [20:03] I have the same problem [20:03] Now, with any further ado, let's get started with the first applicant... [20:03] me ? [20:04] Hello everyone [20:04] my name is Marco, 48 yers old, Italian but i live in Gemrmany [20:05] Mr_Pan, please post links to your wiki and launchpad pages [20:05] First up we've got Mr_Pan. Can you introduce yourself to the board and share the link to your wiki page or forum post and your launchpad.net profile [20:05] I wors as IT administrator in a Foudation that deals with projects for environmental protection [20:05] ok [20:05] LP Profile https://launchpad.net/~mrpan [20:07] My name is Marco, I am Italian, 48 years old and I live in Germany. [20:07] I work as IT Administrator in a foundation that deals with projects for environmental protection. [20:07] I approached the world of Linux for the first time in 1996 with RedHat and in 2006 I installed my first version of Ubuntu 5.04, distribution that I have not left since, choosing XFCE as DE. [20:07] In Italy I was the founder of a Linux User Group called "GioveLUG" now closed. [20:07] For 3 years I operate as OP of the Italian IRC Ubuntu channels [20:08] Can you also share your wiki page link, please? [20:09] Mr_Pan, how much have you been directly contributing to Ubuntu? and in what ways? [20:09] For how long [20:09] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mrpan [20:09] sorry [20:10] c [20:10] are both Op delegates on ubuntu-it channels [20:11] Wild_Man, with activity on IRC and i organinized some Linux Day in Italy [20:11] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-it-irc/+members [20:12] both pug and mrpan [20:12] Is the Linux day specifically for Ubuntu? [20:12] Wild_Man, no [20:13] it is an open day for all linux distro [20:13] That is what I was thinking [20:14] Wild_Man, ok ... [20:14] i use ubuntu since 2006 version 5.06 [20:15] FTR there are testimonials here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/mrpan-membership-application/25706 [20:15] right [20:16] i use ubuntu since 2006 version 5.06 >> 5.04 ... sorry [20:16] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/mrpan [20:17] oops [20:17] Kilos, don't worry [20:18] Quick question while we review the testimonies, you have signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. Did you, and do you understand it, and do you confirm that you will be held to it for the duration of your membership if granted? [20:18] yes i confirm [20:20] Mr_Pan, pan do you plan to contribute in any other ways in the future? [20:20] for now my commitment is online. I am always available. [20:21] Okay [20:21] he provides support on ubuntu-it irc and forums [20:21] I am available for other activities in addition to irc if there was the possibility [20:21]