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marc_anyone know how to set two nvme drive to gen3 and a graphics card to gen3 because im convinced thats why my drive write speeds are so bad.00:24
marc_games are really jumpy00:25
jhutchinsmarc_: Not sure what you mean by "gen3".00:26
marc_gen1 gen2 gen300:27
marc_graphics card is currently set to gen200:27
DisconsentedThey're talking about PCIe generations, not sure why they're asking in #ubuntu though00:27
jhutchinsDisconsented: Ah, PCI.  I thought that was pretty hardware dependent, never seen it configurable.00:28
marc_PCI Express x16 Gen2 is what it says my card is set to and i want to set it to gen300:28
DisconsentedIt depends on the motherboard and its firmware largely00:29
marc_i looked in /ect and there is nothing in there i can write to set it to gen300:29
marc_you used to have to manually enable it in windows 7 as well00:30
marc_and windows 10 i believe00:30
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jhutchinsmarc_: That's not really relevant, Windows handles hardware very differently than Linux does.00:31
marc_nvidia released a utility to set card to gen300:31
jhutchinsmarc_: In Windows?00:31
marc_but i want to know how to do it on ubuntu00:31
jhutchinsmarc_: What has nvidia released for Linux?00:32
marc_go to google and type (nvidia enable gen3 ubuntu) and you will see what im harping on about00:33
marc_https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3135/kw/enable%20gen3/session/L3RpbWUvMTY0MTQyOTM4My9nZW4vMTY0MTQyOTM4My9zaWQvZlU0TGF4RmRfc2U1Qjd6MVN3S2labHladG91a1RwViU3RXpkMEEydFRBclhmNlhUZzRCX2tROHFvU1N0ZkowR3lkcl9ZaUU4cFNYWElBNlVVekdKVnAyYjhpR3ZLJTdFMENLV1lSVHF6S3d0dTFvRWRDM3E4azlMRTllUSUyMSUyMQ%3D%3D00:36
MrCollinsGAjhutchins, I am rendering video from kdenlive, if that is 'transcoding' then yes I am :)00:38
MrCollinsGAjhutchins more clearly: I am creating/editing a video in kdenlive, then when I am satisfied with that video, in the editor, I hit render. Then when it is done I have an mp4 or webm file that I can use to share with others. The rendering takes forever. I want to offload it to mule computers that will do the encoding for me instead of using my main pc so I can keep on creating more videos.00:40
MrCollinsGArendering/encoding for me*00:41
ELQEYNNI have my WiFi working for the Dell Alienware laptop.00:49
ELQEYNNAll of you, along with people on some blogs have told me that it can't be done.00:50
zenofI have an external hdd  which I encrypted with cryptsetup + LUKS, unlocked and opened the device, made an ext4 fs in it (size 100%, no root reserved blocks, temporarily no journal), and filled the whole fs by putting zeros into a file until no space was left in  that fs. unmounted and locked that drive. now, photorec still finds over 5 GB of usable data/files. how can that be?01:13
sarnoldzenof: photorec is looking for sequences of bytes on disk that look like JFIF or something similar01:20
sarnoldzenof: you're going to have a handful of those byte sequences in a terabyte of random data01:20
sarnoldzenof: I suggest letting it "recover the files" and then try viewing them ;) you may find bugs in your photo viewing software..01:21
zenofthat's right and should work like this. but when it finds a jpeg header, it shouldn't find the whole jpeg, right?!01:21
zenofbut it does!01:21
zenofnot, this is why I am asking here. it recreates whole images. jpgs, pngs and xml files with plausible content.01:22
sarnoldwith plausible content???01:23
sarnoldthat's not normal01:23
zenofif it would only find some jpg magic byte/ header sequences, I would be fine..01:23
sarnoldthey should be gibberish that decodes to noise, if it decodes to anything at all01:24
zenofyes, with png, where you can actually can see sunsets. and trees.01:24
zenofsure, that's what I thought, that my zeros would be turned into some noise. undistinguishable from real data. but it's not.01:26
ELQEYNNTake any picture file and try to read it with a text editor, and you'll see gibberish.01:27
zenofELQEYNN, I can even open it in an image viewer an see the actual picture.... no gibberish.01:27
zenofby "photorec still finds over 5 GB of usable data/files" I didn't mean it just wrote them, and me thinking oh, there are actually files. I let photorec finish it's job, an inspected the recovered data.01:29
ELQEYNNI said, if you read a photo file in a *text* *editor*, you'll probably see gibberish.01:30
zenofI am sorry, I read "a picture" instead of "any picture".01:31
zenofso I thought you suggested I should open it in a text editor. but, well , this still doesn't explain why actual data/files could still be recovered from that device01:32
zenofany ideas?01:36
sarnoldthe 'best' guess I've got left is something has noticed that you're writing zeros and will just update metadata on a file instead of actually doing the writing, and then the crypto layer doesn't get any blocks to write, either01:37
genii-coreWhat method did you use for "filled the whole fs by putting zeros into a file until no space was left"01:39
zenofas root 'cat /dev/zero > /mountpoint/zero.text'01:41
genii-coreDid you do something like sudo sync after?01:43
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zenofyes, everything was synced.01:46
genii-coreThen I tend to lean towards sarnold's theory of only metadata being written01:48
zenofI am just about trying it again. what could prevent or notice I am writing only zeros? I mean, even if so, the fs wouldn't run out of space, if something between cat and the crypto layer would be that "smart", right?01:49
genii-coreThere may also be some mechanism when the file exceeds available space which leaves unwritten data01:51
Nobremhi01:52
zenofgenii-core: fair point. but... shouldn't that be no more than the block size, and not adding up to several 100 mb of plausible data?01:56
zenofthen there of course is some "space" I don't read that is used for the fs inodes that are unused when I have only one file on it. but still that much?01:57
NobremI have just asked in #linux but the channel is totally quiet01:57
genii-corezenof: RAM gets filled first, then written .. so conceivably when the system realizes that the current chunk in memory exceeds the room remaining, the deficit could be up the amount of unwritten GB01:57
Nobremso I hope it's okay if I also ask here01:57
zenof*read -> reach01:57
Nobremeven though I might have partially solved the issue already... please just tell me what you think01:58
NobremI was writing a bootable USB stick (flash drive) with a Ubuntu Server Image on it.   -  I used  "dd if=  of="01:58
Nobremhowever, "dd" got interrupted by a power outage01:58
NobremWhen I turned the computer back on,  there was indeed data on the USB stick, and,  3 new partitions.01:59
NobremHowever, as the whole process of creating said bootable USB drive got interrupted by the power outage, I wanted to start over01:59
Nobremso, I used "fdisk" and also "cfdisk" in order to try to erase all partitions.01:59
NobremHowever, that failed, due to errors with unmatching sizes or whatever01:59
Nobremso, some damage happened01:59
Nobremnow I am "zeroing" the USB stick02:00
Nobremwill that help?02:00
zenofNobrem: maybe, but usually you should just try to put that image on the stick again with dd.02:00
Nobremsudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb status=progress iflag=nocache oflag=direct bs=409602:00
Nobremzenof, so, my step is not even needed?02:00
zenofthe image (iso) itself contains/creates a partition table02:01
genii-coreNobrem: After the partition table is wiped out, the zeroing is not doing much02:01
Nobremgenii-core, zenof:  I cannot get rid of the current partition table02:01
Nobremthe current partition table is undeletable02:01
zenofNobrem, you don't have to. just try to dd/cat the image to the pen drive again02:02
Nobremzenof, I can "cat" an ISO image onto a pen drive?!02:02
NobremI have only used "cat" for text files so far02:02
zenofhowever, if that still fails, then there might be som severe damage to the pen drive02:03
genii-coreYou can use dd with the same options you already used but then give it a count like 4 maybe to just zero the firat part of the drive. then sync, see what something like parted -l or fdisk -l says about the drive02:03
Nobremok! thank you!02:04
Nobremone last question:  Am I making the right call when installing the server version of Ubuntu?02:04
NobremI opted for the server version because I would like to use "trinity desktop environment" rather than Gnome  (sorry!)02:04
Nobremcan I just go with the server version and install the rest manually?02:05
genii-coreNobrem: Which version you install depends on usecase, usually02:05
Nobremgenii-core, desktop.   But  trinity-desktop  rather than Gnome02:05
NobremCan I make my server installation into a nice desktop?02:05
genii-coreI usually install server with RAID1 and then install the desktop02:05
Nobremok, cool, then I can do that, too!02:05
Nobremthank you!02:05
genii-coreTrinity is not well mainted the last few years02:06
genii-core*maintained02:06
Nobremgenii-core, even if it were not maintained at all:  I _love_ it02:10
Nobremgenii-core, there is nothing as good as trinity desktop's  1) taskbar  2) ALT+F2  dialogue02:10
Nobremgenii-core, in the new KDE, the tasks get sorted weirdly in the taskbar,  the tabs on the "konsole" are too long,  the ALT+F2 dialogue weird...02:11
genii-coreNobrem: When KDE moved to 4.x I hung out as long as possible, even using Trinity myself for a while but it became unfeasible after a while to continue02:11
NobremSo I really love Trinity Desktop  (Kde 3)02:11
Nobremgenii-core, Tim and Slavek put in a lot of effort02:11
Nobremgenii-core, what is your alternative?  Icewm?02:11
genii-coreNobrem: No, my main DE is still KDE02:12
Nobremmhm02:12
Nobremno bashing... it's open source,  free, and a lovely community02:12
Nobrembut Trinity is just my "one true love"02:12
genii-coreI just customize it a bit to be more like the old 3.x02:12
Nobremgenii-core, would you mind sending me a screenshot?02:12
Nobremmaybe you can convince me02:13
Nobremjust be sure that you don't send any personal information or personal photos in the background02:13
NobremI am interested in the ALT+F2 dialogue and the Taskbar02:13
genii-corekrunner still works02:15
Nobremgenii-core, but with the nice dropdown and being so fast?02:15
ELQEYNNkrunner?02:15
NobremELQEYNN, krunner is the ALT+F2 dialogue02:16
Nobremgenii-core, for example,  in Trinity,  I only get the commands suggested which I previously ran02:16
Nobremso I can type "kw" and "kwrite" pops up and I click the arrow-down button and Enter and that's it02:16
NobremIn KDE4, I always got a _lot_ of stuff going on in krunner even after disabling all I could02:17
genii-coreNobrem: Once I disabled baloo file indexer it was a lot more tolerable02:19
ELQEYNNIs Trinity another Linux distro?02:19
NobremELQEYNN, it is a fork of KDE 3.502:20
genii-coreELQEYNN: Trinity is an independent effort to preserve the 3.x series of KDE, which was much beloved by some02:20
NobremELQEYNN, I wouldn't risk talking about an other distro in the ubuntu channel ;)02:20
genii-coreNobrem: screenshot doesn't want to preserve krunner popup and start menu02:21
NobremI don't need the start menu at all02:21
Nobremgenii-core, I don't even have a start menu02:21
genii-coreWell, properly probably #kubuntu :)02:21
Nobremgenii-core, well, let's be real,  Ubuntu == Kubuntu02:22
ELQEYNNGNOME can have the look and feel of Windows.02:22
transhumanistHI! why is it after using dd if= one usb disk flash disk that is 16 gig in size and outputing it to  a 256 gig usb flash disk, I end up running out of space on the copy?02:22
NobremELQEYNN, yeah, that is indeed what everyone wants ;)02:22
transhumanistit ends up sucking up the whole disk02:23
ELQEYNNDoes kde give the look and feel of Windows too?02:23
genii-coreNobrem: I don't keep things on my desktop, but here's a screenshot anyways https://i.imgur.com/UYrUpr1.png02:24
NobremI don't keep anything on my desktop either.02:25
Nobremthank you for the screenshot02:25
genii-coreELQEYNN: KDE in general is less of a transition for Windows users than many other desktops, yes02:25
Nobremgenii-core, is the bug gone with the 2 rows?02:25
Nobremgenii-core, there was a bug in KDE 4 _many_ years ago which was marked as "won't fix" in the bug tracker02:25
Nobremgenii-core, when using 2 rows,  and you open a new window, the minimized windows change position in the task bar02:26
Nobremwhich made it so hard to find the windows02:26
sarnoldtranshumanist: maybe do ls -l on the path you used in dd's of=... parameter -- I've seen that become a regular file more than once :)02:26
genii-coreNobrem: I have grouping on for apps on the taskbar and it doesn't seem to be an issue02:26
ELQEYNNWith a clickable icon for each software that one might want to run, that is the look and feel of Windows.02:26
NobremELQEYNN, why would you even _want_ it to feel like Windows?02:27
genii-coreNobrem: This machine is running Kubuntu 18.04 fairly well, and it's an Acer from 2008, Core2 Duo CPU and hard drives swapped out to SSDs, still works well02:27
Nobremlovely02:28
ELQEYNNOh ... it's what I wanted in the beginning.02:28
NobremELQEYNN, the command line is your friend02:29
genii-coreNobrem: There is a text entry box now when you click on the gears which I just use more than krunner these days02:29
NobremELQEYNN, you can even edit videos in the command line (ffmpeg),  do graphic editing (image magick),  work on sounds (sox),  copy (cp),  move (mv), create directories (mkdir) and so on02:29
Nobremgenii-core, ok, I will give it a try02:29
Nobremgenii-core, is there any security risk involved in running trinity?02:30
transhumanistsarnold: seen what become a regular file?02:30
genii-coreNobrem: Well, since it cannot use later apps where some issues were fixed, possibly02:30
Nobremoh, ha,  I have one question that I never found an answer to in all those years on Linux02:30
Nobremstupid question, totally useless, but it boggles my mind.02:31
Nobremis "more" the same as "less" or is there any difference?02:31
Nobremgrep ... | less   vs   grep ... | more02:31
genii-coreless is more.. but better02:31
genii-core..you can't scroll back up in more for instance, but you can in less02:31
sarnoldNobrem: more cannot go 'back up', but less will02:32
Nobremcool. So, I will set an alias, to make "more" "less"02:32
Nobremthank you02:32
sarnoldNobrem: the default with 'more' is to leave the contets of what you were looking at on your terminal when you quit; the default with 'less' is to erase the contents of what you were looking at when you quit02:32
sarnold(I think 'more' probably doesn't even have a 'restore the previous contents of the terminal' option)02:33
Nobremoh, good, too!02:33
sarnoldNobrem: most tools will use a PAGER environment variable02:33
Nobremwhat's that?02:33
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sarnoldso you could set PAGER=less  in your shell startup scripts or whatever and they'll usually use it02:33
Nobremsarnold, I think I am doing something really bad....  I set scripts into  /usr/local/bin02:34
sarnoldthat's fine, that's why it's there :)02:34
Nobremoh, good :)02:34
NobremI never got used to aliases02:34
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taylorHi, I just found an issue with libaw-0.1-1 where it looks like it has typos in the dpkg config02:42
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jpmhwhy am I sumetimes getting rhe "invalid nickserv command" when I am trying to post03:44
matsamanjpmh: to post?03:45
jpmhplace a message here03:46
babyfacecan adding someone's gpg key be a security risk or is it harmless?03:47
Nobremre03:59
NobremI am just running the installation of Ubuntu (Server) from a pen drive onto a newly bought, SECOND HAND computer03:59
NobremNow I have 2 questions:03:59
Nobrem1) the installer does NOT offer me to Zero the harddrive.... how problematic is this in regards to a second hand computer?04:00
Nobremshould I stop the installation before beginning it and Zero the hard drive using some other means?04:00
Nobremor is it not important to zero the HD ?04:00
LjLwhether it's important or not is just up to what you are comfortable with04:00
LjLdoesn't the installer offer a full format? that usually means zeroing04:01
Nobrem2) Why is there no SWAP partition in the suggested setup?  There is not a single SWAP space suggested04:01
NobremLjL, maybe the next step... maybe I am not that far (yet)04:01
NobremLjL, I am using the Server Edition of Ubuntu04:01
NobremLjL, it's a laptop, but I want a custom desktop manager so I wanted to be smart by using the non-graphical installer04:01
Nobremmaybe that just bites me in the ***04:01
Nobrembecause the graphical installer can defintely zero a HD because it also lets me "test" ubuntu and then I can open up a command line04:02
Nobremis it even important to zero it?04:02
NobremI never understood the benefit, but people in here told me it were important04:02
Nobremnot today, in the past04:02
Nobrem...and why is there no SWAP partition suggested by the installer?04:04
NobremI would like to give it 32 GB of RAM04:04
Nobremerm... swap04:04
LjLNobrem, if you don't zero it, you may still have files, or pieces of files, on the drive, that are recoverable the day someone decides to recover it, belonging to the previous user04:04
LjLare you comfortable with that? it could be illegal content for all you know04:05
Nobremoh!04:05
Nobremok, zeroing it is04:05
LjLas to the swap i've no idea, i haven't actually used ubuntu in some years04:05
LjLbut i think these days people tend to shun swap04:05
Nobremwhy so?04:05
LjLnot sure if it's just a fad04:05
NobremI am going to do some 4K video cutting so I might need it?04:06
LjLprobably because RAM is plentiful and swap is slow and tends to make the system fail more painfully (i.e. death by slowdown rather than just apps crashing)04:06
LjLyou can add a swapfile later easily anyway04:06
Nobremokay, then I rather buy more RAM04:06
Nobremreally?!  #later04:06
LjLa swap partition isn't particularly necessary04:06
Nobremokay, good, I believe you04:06
NobremLjL, would you mind holding on for ~2-3 min?04:06
NobremI must go back to the 2nd computer (the new one)04:07
Nobremone moment please04:07
LjLsure04:07
Nobrembad news04:09
Nobremthere was no zeroing option04:09
Nobremthe installation is running04:09
Nobremcould anyone from the internet use remainders of old files in order to hack into my computer?04:10
genii-coreNot easily04:10
NobremNot easily still sounds like an option04:10
genii-coreBy the time someone gained enough access to your computer to recover old files it would already be compromised without bothering to recover anything old04:12
Nobremok great04:12
Nobremthank you04:12
NobremThe harddrive is LUKS encrypted04:13
Nobremdoes that help?04:13
Nobrem(I set that during the installation)04:13
Nobremby the way,  Ubuntu has come a long way... the installation routine of the server edition is pretty awesome04:13
NobremThank you, developers, if you are here :)04:14
Nobremthe installation is complete04:15
NobremNow I must try to get X running04:15
LjLNobrem, i'm not sure if LUKS helps because i'm not sure if it zeroes the drive by default :P04:24
LjLbut likely not04:24
LjLbut as genii said you don't rick being broken into *because* of the old data on the hard drive, that's not a factor04:24
Nobremperfect then04:24
Nobremthank you04:24
NobremGuys, I love this server install04:24
Nobremthis is the best experience I have had in a long time04:24
Nobremafter restarting the computer, it was even _online_ (connected to my wifi)04:25
Nobrem"apt upgrade" works,  meaning the right  sources.list is in place04:25
Nobremeverything just works04:25
Nobremthis server installation should be the default,  not this clicky-clicky installer04:25
Nobremre05:10
Nobremmy ALT+F2 key combination does not do anything05:10
Nobremwhat can I do to find out what's happening?05:10
Nobremhow can I check, if the ALT or the F2 key are broken?05:10
Bashing-omNobrem: Terminal command ' xev  ' to track key assignments.05:13
Nobremcool!  thank you Bashing-om05:14
NobremALT = keycode 6405:14
NobremF2 = 3905:15
Nobremanything wrong?05:15
Bashing-omNobrem: :D05:15
NobremI am additionally hitting up the devs in #trinity-desktop05:16
Bashing-omNobrem: My F2 " state 0x0, keycode 68 (keysym 0xffbf, F2) " .05:20
NobremI wonder if I can re-assign the keys that open krunner05:21
NobremBashing-om, Do you know, in what year KDE 3.5 ended?05:21
NobremThen I can search google by date range05:21
NobremKDE will give me more results that Trinity Desktop, I guess05:22
Nobrem*than05:22
Bashing-omNobrem: Not off the top of my head - thugh KDE was my intro to ubuntu - 9.04 :)05:22
Nobrem201005:24
NobremTrinity Desktop forked from KDE 3.5 back in 201005:24
Nobremso, I only need to find google results about krunner before 201005:24
yopuzHi, I want to submit a bug but I don't know how to proceed, is an audio related bug with my laptop and the docking station06:30
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ducasseyopuz: try filing it against pulseaudio08:28
ErilazHello, has anyone here experienced that the HDMI sound output is unavaible in the latest ubuntu budgie ?08:41
ducasseErilaz: sounds like a driver issue08:43
Erilazducasse:  It worked before a update, and all my other sound devices work08:44
ducassewere the graphics drivers or kernel updated?08:44
ErilazI cannot recall, but all the updates are the latest.08:45
ducasseyou can check the logs in /var/log/apt, i'm just guessing though08:45
Erilazits a HDA ATI 5000 something card08:46
Erilazdmesg picks it up, and all the other devices08:46
Erilazhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xCW8NcKt9m/08:48
KBarErilaz did you look in the Audio mixer?08:49
Erilaz [AMD/ATI] Navi 14 [Radeon RX 5500/5500M / Pro 5500M] (rev c5)08:49
ErilazKbar: its not visible there.08:49
Erilazaccording to the pulseaudio volume manager, its unplugged ..08:51
ErilazI havent tried the official radeon driver.08:54
TomyWorkgah, why is keyutils still not a Recommends of cifs-utils? new ubuntu version, DFS is still not working out of the box, because keyutils is a requirement for that08:55
TomyWorkand an undocumented one to boot08:55
TomyWorkoh wow, it is a Recommends, starting with impish, nice08:57
Erilazgah.. amdgpu-lib cannot be found :/09:04
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webchat49hello09:43
webchat49how do i get book marks from usb drive to fire fox?09:43
webchat49i went to fire fox , at top of browser is the words bookmarks, first choice is manage book marks09:44
webchat49i click that09:45
webchat49i get a box that has title of libary09:45
webchat49import and back up ,restore , choose file , i click that and nothing09:46
webchat49so far linux is not a good time :(09:46
webchat49plz help09:47
webchat49be back in a few , needs coffee09:47
mncheckwhat do I need to do so gpg remembers my passphrase for a time? I tried to run "gpg-agent" in terminal but it didn't do the trick... on 20.04 amd6409:57
webchat49ok why no help10:02
webchat49hello? any one here10:02
webchat491015 people here and nobody is saying any thing?10:03
webchat49can you see the words im typing?10:03
webchat49why does linux not work verry well?10:04
idkaui can see it10:04
webchat49i thought it was stable and stuff like corporations use it ?10:04
webchat49i need help ok ?10:04
idkauPeople are probably sleeping becauser its late. My whole work infrastructure runs on linux :)10:05
webchat49linux need to do better if you want peple to use your softawre its anight mare10:05
webchat49how do i get book marks from usb drive to fire fox10:05
webchat49how do i get book marks from usb drive to fire fox10:06
webchat49how do i get book marks from usb drive to fire fox10:06
webchat49how do i get book marks from usb drive to fire fox10:06
webchat49how do i get book marks from usb drive to fire fox10:06
idkauIt should be as easy as plugging it in and then opening the file explorer app10:06
mncheckwebchat49, on irc people are sometimes in a different time-zone so it may literally take hours to get an answer (eg. you write from NY and get answer from tokyo)10:07
Leoneofmaybe his flash drive is unreadable, like ntfs, fat...etc10:07
mncheckotherwise probably the channel lacks contributors10:07
Leoneofwebchat49: can you see your bookmark file?10:07
mncheckwebchat49, what format are your bookmarks on the usb in again?10:07
Leoneofoh, he's on +q mode10:08
mncheckoh no10:09
mncheckthanks TheRedQueen10:09
webchat49at top of fire fox is words , book mark i go there , manage book marks go there , import book marks restore choose file i click that and nothing10:09
mncheckwebchat49, come again please?10:09
webchat49at top of fire fox is words , book mark i go there , manage book marks go there , import book marks restore choose file i click that and nothing10:09
mncheckwebchat49, "select a bookmarks backup" window not appearing, right?10:10
webchat49when i click choose file noting happens10:10
mncheckwebchat49, do you know your ubuntu and firefox version?10:10
webchat49firefox 95.0.0210:11
webchat49ubuntu 20.04.3 lts10:12
webchat49i have updated any thing i could find , i have loged out back in , reboot, shut down10:13
webchat49import bookmarks from html does nothing also ?10:16
webchat49:(10:17
Leoneofwebchat49: what's your bookmark filename?10:18
mncheckwebchat49,  do you have free space on your hard drive?10:18
Leoneoffilename and extension10:19
mncheckI had problems with firefox when I had 0 space left on my file system10:19
webchat49200 gigs free10:19
Leoneofwebchat49: what's your file extenion? html or json? or something else?10:20
webchat49i have both jason and html10:21
webchat49fire fox wont open it?10:21
webchat49i can go to file , open file click that and nothing10:22
webchat49like the other stuff10:22
mncheckLeoneof, webchat49's problem is the file selection window never appearing10:22
Leoneofah10:22
Leoneofmncheck: he can copy html to profile folder, better than wasting hours10:23
mncheckoh10:23
lotuspsychjeplease divide support questions with discussions10:24
lotuspsychje!discuss10:24
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webchat49bookmarks,manage bookmarks,libary,importback up,restore , choose file, or import from html10:24
webchat49nothing happens10:24
webchat49has usb thumb drive open clicks movie it plays10:26
webchat49clicks pics its aslide showe10:26
webchat49drive works ok10:26
webchat49copy and paste bookmarks to down loads folder10:28
webchat49still cant fix issue10:28
webchat49ok can you help with other issue10:28
mncheckwebchat49, I think Leoneof says that if you have a bookmarks-2021-12-34 and put it in the bookmarkbackups folder inside the profile directory then you will have that data in the restore menu besides choose file. you can go to your profiles folder by opening about:profiles in the firefox url bar and choosing the active profile's root directory "open directory"10:29
webchat49when i have hdmi tv as second screnn it flickers every few seconds10:29
mncheckwebchat49, I copied my bookmarks-2021-12-34.json (not real filename) to /home/myuser/.mozilla/firefox/abcdef.default/bookmarksbackup and then in firefox manage bookmarks i saw it in the import back up restore menu10:30
webchat49mncheck i have no idea what you said sorry10:30
mncheckwebchat49, yeah let me walk you through10:30
mncheckwebchat49, in firefox in the url bar you enter about:profiles10:31
webchat49ok10:31
mncheckwebchat49, on that page, there is the text "This is the profile in use "10:32
webchat49This is the profile in use and it cannot be deleted.10:32
mncheckwebchat49, that's it. below that text there is a box called "root directory"10:32
webchat49do i open it ?10:33
mncheckwebchat49, there is a button "open directory". yes10:33
mncheckwebchat49, the directory should open...10:33
webchat49lol10:33
webchat49open directory does nothing10:33
mncheckwebchat49, hm10:33
webchat49golf claps10:33
webchat49:(10:33
mncheckwebchat49, in any case you can navigate to the path as shown above "open directory"10:34
webchat49ty10:34
mncheckwebchat49, in the "Files" program I mean10:34
webchat49its broken i guess10:34
mncheckwebchat49, in terminal I'd type "df -h / ~"10:35
webchat49you mean the box that says files10:35
webchat49Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on10:36
webchat49Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on10:36
webchat49oops10:36
mncheckwebchat49, ok let's try just one line at a time10:37
webchat49ok10:37
webchat49the trminal thingy10:37
mncheckwebchat49, in any case use% should be well less than 100%10:37
webchat49size 219 , used 13 gig use 6%10:38
mncheckwebchat49, looks good10:39
orange1type reboot10:39
webchat49reboot10:39
mncheckorange1, already tried that10:39
mncheckwebchat49, what about "df -i / ~"10:40
mncheckwebchat49, "ifree" should be greater than 0 too (I have 30186721)10:40
webchat491433589610:41
mncheckwebchat49, good.10:41
mncheckwebchat49, ok, "df" was just a sanity check on my part10:42
mncheckwebchat49, back to "files" now. I mean the files and folder program... explorer, etc... it's called "files" in ubuntu 20.0410:42
webchat49ok i click files it a box with home desk top etc?10:43
mncheckwebchat49, yes10:43
mncheckwebchat49, first you go to Home10:43
webchat49you mean click the words home ?10:44
mncheckwebchat49, yes. then if you scroll through the folders there should be one called ".mozilla"10:44
webchat49it does nothing when clicked10:44
mncheckwebchat49, what about pressing Ctrl with L ?10:45
webchat49ok i get a space to type10:45
mncheckwebchat49, great10:45
mncheckwebchat49, you need to copy from firefox what it says in the blue root directory box to that space10:46
webchat49what ?10:46
mncheckwebchat49, that space to type you got from ctrl with L is called "path"10:47
mncheckwebchat49, we need to fill the path with data from firefox10:47
webchat49what do i need to put in space?10:48
mncheckwebchat49, in firefox there was that page with the "open directory" button, above the button there is a text like "/home/myuser/.mozilla/......"10:48
mncheckwebchat49, do you still have the page with the "open directory" button in firefox?10:49
webchat49about profiles?10:50
mncheckwebchat49, yes that one10:50
webchat49copy root or local?10:50
mncheckroot10:50
webchat49ok ready10:51
mncheckwebchat49, ok, the window with the space to type is called "Files" in ubuntu 20.0410:52
zambaanyone in here savvy with trying to figure out why my beefed-up cloud server gets high load now and then?10:52
KBar!cookie | mncheck10:52
ubottumncheck: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!10:52
mncheckwebchat49, when you pasted the text Files should switched to the new folder10:52
KBarThe question wasn't related to Ubuntu at all, but thanks for helping out, nonetheless.10:52
mncheckwebchat49, maybe by pressing enter10:52
webchat49i see files like book marks browser exstensions etc10:53
mncheckwebchat49, great10:53
mncheckwebchat49, there should be one called "bookmarksbackups"10:53
webchat49so drag the files to book mark folder?10:53
mncheckwebchat49, what I did was I dragged bookmarks-2021-12-34.json into bookmarksbackups10:54
mncheckwebchat49, do you have "bookmarksbackups" full or just "bookmarks"? because I only have bookmarkbackups10:55
webchat49lol that did nothing10:56
mncheckwebchat49, if you drag the json into bookmarksbackups, it should show up in the "restore" menu above "choose file"10:57
mncheckwebchat49, I think you need to restart firefox after you dragged the files10:57
webchat49it is in restore list i click it , fire fox ask me if i want to do this , not corect wording10:57
webchat49i click restore and nothing10:58
mncheckwebchat49, ah10:58
webchat49it looks to be in the restore list10:58
mncheckwebchat49, so it is on the restore list10:58
webchat49but nothing happens when i click it10:58
mncheckwebchat49, I see10:58
mncheckwebchat49, in firefox on the "about:profiles" page there is a button "create a new profile"10:59
mncheckwebchat49, maybe your current profile got corrupted and by creating a new one we can see if you get more luck11:00
mncheckwebchat49, does the "create a new profile" button work?11:01
webchat49new profile made11:01
mncheckwebchat49, in firefox on the "about:profiles" page, you can launch each profile in a new browser11:01
mncheckwebchat49, I have three profiles, and have three "launch profile in new browser" buttons if I scroll through that page11:02
mncheckwebchat49, you should launch the newly created profile11:02
webchat49when i click launch it open a differne t fire fox , not like this one11:03
mncheckwebchat49, that's intended11:03
mncheckwebchat49, in the different new firefox you should try to import the bookmarks11:04
mncheckwebchat49, the only option there would be choose files11:04
mncheckwebchat49, can you see if it works in the new different firefox?11:05
webchat49that was worse lol11:06
mncheckwebchat49, how so?11:06
webchat49same problems in other one to :(11:06
mncheckwebchat49, I see11:06
webchat49wont let me open stuff same as before11:07
webchat49im so sorry you wasrted your time11:07
mncheckwebchat49, I see. you can close the new different firefox now11:07
mncheckwebchat49, no problem11:07
mncheckwebchat49, in the original firefox in the "Help" menu there is "troubleshoot mode"11:07
mncheckwebchat49, if you go into "troubleshoot mode" it will restart your firefox and you can try importing the bookmarks, see if it works11:08
webchat49ok ill try ty11:08
webchat49have a nice day11:08
Leoneofyou can copy bookmark-xxxxxx.html , rename it to bookmark.html, then copy to your mozilla profile11:09
Leoneofouch!11:09
mncheckLeoneof, I think webchat49 quit11:09
mncheckLeoneof, probably out of time11:09
mncheckLeoneof, same as me :)11:09
Leoneof-_-11:09
Leoneofhi webchat7611:10
webchat76:(  no luck with troubleshoot firefox now i have lost all settings and changes11:10
mncheckwebchat76, if you close the trobleshoot mode they might come back on next firefox11:11
mncheckwebchat76, unless you clicked the wrong button :(11:11
mncheckwebchat76, maybe try reinstall firefox, see https://askubuntu.com/questions/57682/11:12
webchat76i clicked that and it reset fire fox to new and still it wont let me import book marks the file lokks to be there when i click nothing11:12
mncheckwebchat76, I am very sorry then for your settings11:12
mncheckwebchat76, that's one evil button11:12
webchat76no worrys11:12
mncheckwebchat76, should have warned you11:12
webchat76im just suprised how bad linux is11:12
mncheckwebchat76, these normally work11:13
webchat76i have an older pc and it dosent work right with liux either11:13
webchat76socket 77511:13
mncheckwebchat76, if linux is indeed bad then that would be for different reasons, this case sounds special11:13
webchat76this pc is older also but supiort eneded in 201811:14
mncheckwebchat76, I won't say it's not bad but what happens here is not normal11:14
webchat76ive never had linux work corectly11:14
mncheckwebchat76, anyway I was thinking reinstalling firefox11:14
mncheckwebchat76, I picked this page https://askubuntu.com/questions/57682/11:14
webchat76no im not reinstalling any thing11:15
webchat76it was installed less than aweek ago same as the oss11:15
webchat76os11:15
mncheckwebchat76, I'm thinking maybe the files are corrupted11:15
webchat76im sorry its to much to deal with11:16
webchat76if i need internet ill go to the libary11:16
webchat76intenet user from 1995 to 202111:16
webchat76wont use windowes 10 its maleware spyware11:16
lotuspsychje!ot11:17
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:17
webchat76, i never thought i would see the day i couldnt use the internet any more11:17
mncheckwebchat76, ok. anyway I'm trying this command to check and reinstall any corrupt files: sudo bash -c "apt install debsums && apt-get install --reinstall $(dpkg -S $(debsums -c) | cut -d : -f 1 | sort -u)"11:18
webchat76well its been fun pulls plugs from pc not even gona shut down11:18
mncheckwebchat76, wait, wrong command11:18
mncheckwebchat76, so the command is: sudo bash -c 'apt install debsums && apt-get install --reinstall $(dpkg -S $(debsums -c) | cut -d : -f 1 | sort -u)'11:18
mncheckwebchat76, yeah sad state of things11:19
mncheckwebchat76, best I can offer is to schedule some help time for later11:22
mncheckor maybe my command works wonders11:23
mncheckKBar, this broken state of browser is an ubuntu problem enough for me11:24
mncheckKBar, file chooser dialog should work in any application11:25
emanuelehi all11:39
emanuelesomeone can help me fixing my grub2 options?11:39
oerheksmaybe, did you read the manual first?11:40
oerheks!grub11:40
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub211:40
emanueleof course11:40
emanueleand I dont know why it always appear11:40
emanueleGRUB_TIMEOUT is set to 011:41
emanueleI really dont understand how to set GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE that now is "hidden"11:42
EriC^^emanuele: can you pastebin 'cat /etc/default/grub' ?11:43
emanueleyes...11:43
oerheksquick_boot="0"11:44
oerheksThis will prevent in multi OS'es cases from changing the timeout value to 10seconds..11:44
oerhekscould be an other OS triggering the menu11:44
oerhekshttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1239903/how-to-disable-grub-menu-at-boot-time-in-ubuntu-20-0411:44
emanuele# If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update11:45
emanuele# /boot/grub/grub.cfg.11:45
emanuele# For full documentation of the options in this file, see:11:45
emanuele#   info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'11:45
emanueleGRUB_DEFAULT=011:45
emanueleGRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden11:45
ThinkT510!paste11:45
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:45
EriC^^_emanuele sorry i got dc, can you repaste the link?11:46
kedar_apteWhen using enterprise login to login to UBuntu Desktop - I have observed that unless one account is manually added in the users section, domain login does not work.....For e.g .... If i have to allow a laptop to be used by domain users, I have to add one domain user in the Add User section. Once that user is added, any other user with a romaing profile on the AD can login on the laptop even if the user is not manually added on the machine through the add11:49
kedar_apteuser section11:49
emanueleim sorry11:50
kedar_apteis this an expected behaviour or once the machine is on domain at the time of installation, any user with a romaing profile should be abel to loign to the laptop even though the domain user is not manually added on the laptop11:50
oerhekswhat is 'enterprise login'??11:51
kedar_apteAD login.... 20.04 allows us to join the domain at the time of installing the OS11:52
oerheksoke, thank you11:52
kedar_apteAt installtion the installer installer installs all the required packages to join the domain seamlessly11:53
ravageExcept that installer options there seems to be almost no information about the AD login. I never tried it myself11:56
ravageMaybe someone has more information about it11:56
ELQEYNNkadar, what do you mean by enterprise log-in to ubuntu?12:04
zenofELQEYNN, sarnold : you remember me filling up my encrypted device with zeros? now I have filled it with data from /dev/urandom. entire disk. checked the filled file size, and did a 'tail random.text' to see if there it is actually filled with random stuff. still, photorec finds the same stuff it did before on that device...12:05
Aarch64debian!info photores12:05
ubottuPackage photores does not exist in impish12:05
Aarch64debian!info photorec12:06
ubottuPackage photorec does not exist in impish12:06
oerheksAarch64debian, you can do that in DM12:06
ELQEYNNI don't know what "impish" is. I have seen it a lot around ubuntu.12:06
Aarch64debianif you format disk, they can offer you to wipe data12:07
oerheksELQEYNN, but you posted yesterday https:://termbin.com/cl9112:08
oerhekslolz, catch a troll when you can12:08
ELQEYNNThat looks like the file /etc/os-***<something>.12:10
ELQEYNNoh, ... /etc/os-release12:11
ELQEYNNThe term "impish" means "inclined to do slightly naughty things for fun; mischievous" ... according to what Google got from the dictionary.12:15
ELQEYNNAnd now I see that word around ubuntu...  That looks funny, to say the least.12:15
ograELQEYNN, https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/04/ubuntu-21-10-codename-revealed12:16
zenoffinding data that should have vanished isn't slightly naughty... a nightmare rather it is. :-/12:16
ograELQEYNN, also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames (though that is missing the latest ones)12:18
kedar_apteELQEYNN: Enterprise  login means - getting enterprise users to login to Active Directory on their ubuntu computers12:19
ograravage, perhaps https://github.com/ubuntu/adsys/wiki helps ?12:23
ograkedar_apte, ^^^ for you too ....12:25
ravageThat's at least something. I don't plan to use it but now I know where to look :)12:26
MaikELQEYNN: get you stuff over to #ubuntu-discuss since it seems your chatter doesn't look like you're asking for support with Ubuntu.12:32
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BluesKajHi folks13:23
stevenm_Anyone know a thing or two about polkit rules and actions here?   I'm trying to write rule that overrides the <allow_any> value of any action to match that of <allow_active>... basically because a *hit tonne of polkit actions break if used you're not actually sitting at the PC itself (e.g. using vnc/rdp/nx etc...)13:26
mannequinfirefox esr should be in default repo13:30
mannequinnon-esr releases are not usable13:30
oerhekssure they are usable. but you can install it with snap; sudo snap install firefox --channel=esr/stable13:33
oerheks=9113:33
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KBaroerheks: snap haters coming in 3... 2... 1...13:41
oerhekshop distro then13:42
mannequinoerheks: nifty13:49
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merpnderpI'm on ubuntu 20.04 and need to figure out if /tmp is mounted by systemd. Anyone know how I'd check?14:41
merpnderpI think the two possibilities are fstab or systems.14:42
merpnderpsystemd14:42
EriC^^df -h /tmp should show some info14:42
EriC^^oh, nevermind14:43
ioriaprobsbly systemctl --all | grep  tmp14:43
ioria*probsbly14:43
oerheksSee the man page for systemd.mount14:44
ioriaor cat /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service14:44
oerhekswhy the question ?14:45
merpnderpoerheks: I'm in sys admin hell. Trying to figure out how to remediate all these security issues our scanner found.14:45
merpnderpBut I'm not a sys admin.14:45
merpnderpBut I refuse to believe that a vanilla install of Ubuntu has like 75 major security vulnerabilities.14:46
EriC^^merpnderp: type 'cat /etc/fstab' it should show if /tmp is there14:46
leftyfbmerpnderp: trying to appease a security scanner != good security14:46
merpnderpEriC^^: thanks14:46
nucc1^^ you need some nuance to tell whether something a scanner flagged is truly a vulnerability14:47
merpnderpEriC^^: oh right, already looked in fstab. No mention of tmp14:47
merpnderpBut we have a /tmp. My tmux session is in it.14:47
nucc1merpnderp what was the scanner complaint about /tmp ?14:47
EriC^^merpnderp: what does 'df /tmp' show for mountpoint?14:47
merpnderpEriC^^: /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv14:49
merpnderpnucc1: "Ensure nodev option set on /tmp partition"14:49
EriC^^merpnderp: what's it say under "mounted on" ?14:49
merpnderpEriC^^: /14:49
EriC^^aha14:49
EriC^^so it's actually not mounted, it's part of the rootfs14:50
merpnderpThat sounds wrong.14:50
merpnderpBut only in a way I don't care about.14:50
EriC^^by default ubuntu wouldnt create a /tmp partition, someone would have to manually partition it that way14:50
merpnderpIf someone hacks this machine and fills up all the disk in /tmp, then good. They at least let me know it was hacked.14:50
EriC^^the guys in #ubuntu-server might know more about this topic, fwiw14:51
merpnderpOkay, thank yo.14:51
nucc1merpnderp you shoudl look at man systemd-tmpfiles15:04
merpnderpnucc1: Thanks.15:04
nucc1i'm not sure if that's relevant, but systemd is relevant to the /tmp on recent ubuntus15:05
nucc1that might be a good place to start if you need to change the settings15:05
merpnderpnucc1: it doesn't look it does the mounting though.15:09
nucc1merpnderp it definitely does. what version of ubuntu?15:09
nucc1on my 20.04, it does.15:09
merpnderp20.04 server15:09
merpnderpSorry that man page made me think all it did was configure it.15:10
merpnderpI can't find the config file15:10
nucc1what's a good paste bin nowadays?15:10
nucc1have a look at /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service15:11
merpnderpI don't know. https://pastebin.com ?15:11
nucc1i think it mounts tmpfile with nodev already15:11
merpnderpUbuntu has one, but you have to create an account to use it.15:11
nucc1so could well be an issue with your vulnerability scanner15:11
nucc1for example, if it's looking for the definition of /tmp in /etc/fstab, then it won't find it15:12
nucc1also, if you run "cat /etc/mtab" , you will see that tmpfs already has "nodev" flag.15:12
merpnderpWhat about remount?15:13
merpnderpApparently I need that too15:13
nucc1i am not sure i see how it's relevant...15:13
nucc1is remount even a tool?15:13
nucc1i mean, to remount, you just call mount again15:13
nucc1perhaps you should clarify what you mean by remount15:14
nucc1or what exactly you need to address about it15:14
merpnderpno idea. In the remediation guide from the scanner I'm supposed to do this: mount -o remount,nodev /tmp15:14
merpnderpOr edit: /etc/systemd/system/local-fs.target.wants/tmp.mount and add: Options=mode=1777,strictatime,noexec,nodev,nosuid15:14
nucc1remount in that context means "allow possibility to remount the filesystem with different options"15:14
merpnderpOnly that file doesn't exist.15:14
nucc1that's a pointless stipulation in my view.15:14
nucc1so, systemd on ubuntu 2004 already ships with a built-in way to mount tmpfs15:15
merpnderpOh, this whole exercise seems pointless. I haven't seen any security issues that seem real to me so far and I've remediated 77 issues so far.15:15
nucc1if you want to change what ubuntu does by default, you will need to copy the shipped service file15:15
nucc1and edit it to your desired spec15:15
nucc1there should be tutorials online for how to do that15:15
nucc1you also have to disable the default service of course15:15
merpnderpI'd likely quit my job before doing that :)15:15
nucc1merpnderp i think that the ubuntu configuration is already secure15:16
merpnderpI agree 100%15:16
nucc1and that tool is just sending you on a wild goose chase15:16
merpnderpabsolutely15:16
nucc1you should have the confidence to point that out15:16
nucc1you don't have to tick every box. the tool is not a security expert15:16
merpnderpBut if we want to migrate from windows to ubuntu we have to made the security team happy.15:16
nucc1if the security team doesn't undertand the flaws of their favourite scanner, then you have a tough time ahead15:17
gordonjcpmerpnderp: what are they unhappy about?15:17
merpnderpgordonjcp: that none of these security issues seem very concerning and I've been tasked with fixing them all even though I'm definitely no sys admin, let alone a linux sys admin.15:18
gordonjcpmerpnderp: okay, but what security issues are they saying they have?15:18
merpnderpI mean who cares if someone fills up /tmp's disk space? They're doing me a favor by letting me know the machine is compromised.15:18
oerheks" Trying to figure out how to remediate all these security issues our scanner found." what scanner exactly?15:18
gordonjcpmerpnderp: why is that a problem?15:18
gordonjcpmerpnderp: is it a problem if someone fills up all the disk space in Windows?15:19
merpnderpgordonjcp: if it is mounted on root it will fill the entire usable disk.15:19
merpnderpgordonjcp: lol, filling up all the disk on our windows servers happens all the time without hackers.15:19
merpnderplol15:19
leftyfbmerpnderp: not if it's mounted as tmpfs. That's just a mount point, not the filesystem15:19
gordonjcpyeah15:20
gordonjcpthere's absolutely no sane reason to have /tmp on a physical disk partition15:21
leftyfbmerpnderp: really, you should go to HR and tell them you are not the person for this. If they want it done right they need to hire someone. I'm not saying this to put you down, but more importantly, someone right for this job will have the ability to do this audit properly regardless of what the "security" team" thinks15:21
gordonjcpmerpnderp: although if for some insane reason you want /tmp to be written to physical disks, you can just create a /tmp partition15:21
gordonjcpmerpnderp: filling up /tmp is probably going to break stuff whatever happens, but the whole point is that /tmp is fast storage for short-lived temporary files so it's usually just a ramdisk15:22
leftyfbmerpnderp: the main point you missed here is the whole purpose of a /tmp mount is that it is mounted as tmpfs, which is all in memory. Not a filesystem on a disk, regardless of where the mountpoint is15:22
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merpnderpThat's all great advice.15:25
merpnderpAnd looks like the nodev issue is the big one.15:25
merpnderpWhich we already have15:26
merpnderp"The nodev mount option specifies that the filesystem cannot contain special devices."15:26
merpnderpSo I'm gong to make a note that this one is already good even though it fails.15:26
ioriayesnd tmpfs is already set with nodev15:26
ioriamount | grep nodev | grep tmp15:27
gordonjcpmerpnderp: how exactly does it fail?15:30
leftyfbinterestingly, I just looked on several 20.04 servers and none of them have anything mounted to /tmp15:30
oerheksmerpnderp, what scanner exactly?15:30
merpnderpCIS15:31
merpnderpgordonjcp: it fails by giving me a pdf saying this item failed the test and how to remediate the issue.15:31
gordonjcpmerpnderp: what exactly does it say?15:33
gordonjcpmerpnderp: and what are you using?15:33
gordonjcpmerpnderp: and, are the people using the scanner competent to use it?15:34
merpnderphttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/OvTd1Krz/15:37
merpnderpLuckily that one is also already set.15:37
merpnderpThen it gives two ways to fix it. But since it isn't a real problem, I'm marking it as already fixed.15:37
gordonjcpmerpnderp: okay, you really need to give it verbatim and also say what scanner they're using15:38
gordonjcpmerpnderp: otherwise this is just guesswork15:38
nucc1merpnderp see "cat /usr/share/systemd/tmp.mount"15:39
nucc1looks like that's the defaults15:39
asdwwwhey there!15:39
jhutchinsI think that we can look at this morning's discussion and conclude that there is more than one way for /tmp to be set up, and the "one true way" doesn't actually exist.15:40
asdwwwI have an issue while installing Ubuntu. On the disc-check before install it says that 1 file is incorrect15:40
asdwwwThe file is /boot/grub/efi.img15:40
asdwwwthe checksum doesn't match and I have no idea why15:40
jhutchinsasdwww: You mean checking the install image?15:40
jhutchinsasdwww: Are you checking the image file as downloaded or as "burned" to a device?15:41
nucc1jhutchins there's more than one way to do almost everything... i think merpnderp needs to see what ubuntu's default /tmp mount options are, and whether or not they satisfy his security audit tool15:41
asdwwwYup, I verified .iso; I verified all files inside the iso, everything is correct15:41
iomari891greetings, running add-apt-repository ppa:deadsnakes/ppa for python 3.10 on 21.10 fails.15:41
asdwwwbut when i use that usb stick15:41
asdwwwthe error begins15:41
oerheksiomari891, for what ubuntu release?15:42
iomari89121.1015:42
jhutchinsasdwww: Bad blocks on the device?15:42
oerheksoh 21.10 does not have a candidate15:42
oerheksup to focal 20.04 only https://launchpad.net/~deadsnakes/+archive/ubuntu/ppa15:42
iomari891I C. the site I was on is misleading then. Thanks15:43
asdwwwjhutchins: files are fine before I use usb stick15:43
iomari891https://www.debugpoint.com/2021/10/install-python-3-10-ubuntu/15:43
jhutchinsasdwww: What are you using to "burn" the image?15:43
asdwwwjhutchins I tried both usb stick creator (that gui tool in Ubuntu) - I run it via virtual machine15:44
asdwwwand dd15:44
asdwwwboth - the same error /boot/grub/efi.img not match15:44
oerheksiomari891, yeah, noticed errors in thier howtos many times15:45
asdwwwthe interesting thing is that whenever I "burn". iso and mount that usb and run "md5sum -c md5sum.txt" every file is OK. But when I boot from that usb stick and enter live-cd mode, then md5sum says /boot/grub/efi.img is incorrect15:45
jhutchinsoerheks: You find it, you fix it.15:45
asdwwwit looks like boot proces modifies that file somehow?15:45
oerheksbut ..15:46
oerheks!info python3.1015:46
ubottupython3.10 (3.10.0-2, impish): Interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 3.10). In component universe, is optional. Built by python3.10. Size 462 kB / 595 kB15:46
jhutchinsasdwww: Some possibilities: Ignore it and try to install anyway, try a different USB device, or try a different source image.15:47
nucc1i would ignore it and install anyway15:47
nucc1especially if i you have another machine as backup.15:47
jhutchinsasdwww: As I've been known to tell clients, "why" is a _lot_ more expensive than "fixed".15:47
asdwwwjhutchins tried two different usb sticks15:48
asdwwwand got the same error every time15:48
asdwwwi didnt process futher, 'cos i wanted to know what's happening15:48
nucc1asdwww i think that the file does get modified by the live running instance, so the check will always fail15:48
asdwwwnucc1 like the boot process modifies it?15:49
nucc1asdwww yes. that's effectively the bootloader15:49
nucc1but i'm not an expert, so take my word with caution :)15:49
nucc1i don't generally bother with checking media correctness nowadays15:49
asdwwwhmm, when I start installer, near the ubuntu I see "Dell" logo, so I guess that /boot/grub/efi.img has been modified during the boot process?15:50
nucc1with HTTPS on modern internet connections, you're unlikely to get a corruput download file anyways, except possibly a truncated download.15:50
nucc1asdwww i think that UEFI allows BIOS to insert desired image in place of default logo15:50
nucc1not necessarily modifying the img file.15:50
nucc1but it could well be that they insert their logo in it15:51
nucc1not show how it's technically implemented.15:51
asdwwwso why that /boot/grub/efi.img got different checksum?15:51
nucc1by "BIOS", i mean the hardware.15:51
nucc1something changed it for sure.15:51
nucc1my argument was that it is normal for the file to be changed, and it's not necessarily a sign of bad things15:51
nucc1that is the "executable" that the hardware launches after the system POSTs15:52
asdwwwi'll mount this usb stick once again and see if the file remains modified15:52
asdwwwgive me a second15:52
asdwwwyeah, it's modified15:54
asdwwwso it looks that during the boot, the content of my usbstick was modified15:54
iomari891oerheks: thanks15:55
oerhekswhat Virtual Machine does that asdwww ?15:56
asdwwwoerheks: what do you mean?15:56
oerheksand what host?15:56
oerheksno virtual manager changes EFI entrances, AFAIK15:56
asdwwwoerheks: no, sorry for make it wrong, let me explain once again:15:57
asdwwwoerheks: On Windows 10, I've installed VirtualBox and Ubuntu. Then I run Ubuntu and created USB Stick (both via USB Stick Creator and dd). The I used that usb stick to boot on my host (not on the virtualbox)15:57
asdwwwi just used virtualbox to create usb stick15:57
asdwwwand im using that usb stick to boot and install ubuntu on my host machine15:58
asdwwwbut when i create usb stick and check it's content - every file is OK15:58
asdwwwbut when i boot by using this usb stick, then the /boot/grub/efi.img is being changed15:58
asdwwwand i have no idea why15:58
nucc1are you booting into a live mode?16:00
nucc1can you convert the usb back to an ISO, and run it in a virtual machine? If it shows the dell logo, then you can assume that the dell logo was added16:00
asdwwwgood plan, i'll try to boot from usb stick in virtual machine16:01
asdwwwnucc1 no Dell logo in virtualbox16:04
asdwwwso it's not it16:04
nucc1it could still be it... for example, if the uefi spec says "edit this location and place the address of the logo to show on boot"16:04
nucc1and the spec says "if the logo is not found, display what your default logo is"16:04
nucc1i'm speculating here. the spec is 2000+ pages.16:05
nucc1bottomline, nothing is wrong with your usb disk, install away.16:05
nucc1if you verified the iso you downloaded, and you burnt it without errors, go ahead and install without running the check16:05
asdwwwverified .iso and usb stick content (before booting) and both were correct16:06
nucc1yea, so youhave nothing to worry about.16:06
nucc1you may want to report a bug if you so fancy, with the integrity check tool16:06
asdwwwstill wanna dig in to check what exactly happends :)16:07
nucc1it could be something as benign as the video buffer.16:08
nucc1like, assuming that the efi image has a reserved section for image buffer that is writable, then it's undertandable that that changes as the image is booted16:09
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asdwwwyeah, ok, the most important part is that i should not worry about it. I'll try to figure out what exactly happends in my free time. Thanks a lot16:10
asdwwwnucc1 and jhutchins - thanks!16:10
ice9where to upload a pic regarding ubuntu issue, imgur is broken currently16:14
ice9?16:14
leftyfbice9: https://imgur.com/a/ft600ER16:17
jhutchinsice9: Why a picture?  Describe the problem here, text mode.16:18
ravageto prove the point16:19
ravageoh sorry. lefty sent that. didnt say anything16:19
ice9nvm, every time I lock the screen and relogin, the app icons in the status bar gets filled with empty icons, like the one between "en" and the first blue icon in this screenshot https://postimg.cc/4mLh43Ld/e4ddeceb     and it's not possible to close them...16:21
ice9this is 21.1016:21
ravagemaybe a faulty shell extension?16:23
MrCollinsGAexcuse me in nano is there a way to search for words please?16:25
jhutchinsice9: So 21.10, presumably a default gnome desktop.16:25
bkeysI hate snaps16:25
jhutchinsice9: One frequently used troubleshooting step is to create a new user and log in as them to see if it's something with your settings/customization rather than a system component failure.16:26
geniiMrCollinsGA: ctrl-w   ..enter the word there and hit enter16:26
MrCollinsGAoh ok16:26
MrCollinsGAthank you genii16:26
geniiMrCollinsGA: Glad to assist16:26
geniiMrCollinsGA: ..also, it's case sensitive in case you're searching for something like a word beginning a sentence, or a proper name, etc16:29
MrCollinsGAgenii, thank you so much! very helpful friend :)16:29
* MrCollinsGA bows16:29
ioriaice9, are you using gnome on Xorg ?16:31
NetsrotHi, I get freezes all the time when I use the kernel 5.13.0-23-generic17:04
Netsrotis there a way to fix?17:04
oerheksToo little info, what systemspecs, what videocard and driver?17:05
jhutchinsNetsrot: Do you get freezes when you use a different kernel?17:06
oerheksand what are you doing when it happens?17:06
NetsrotI use amd64 ubuntu impish with apu amd 3200g and no dgpu17:06
Netsrotit happens when I try to launch a new application17:07
NetsrotI tested with wayfire itself and an sdl2 app17:08
Netsrotsince switching back to kernel 5.13.0-22-generic fixed the problem. I was thinking it's a kernel problem.17:09
jhutchinsNetsrot: So there's an obvious solution to your problem.  Is there anything in particular that you need from the -23 kernel, or are you just after bigger, shineyr numbers?17:10
oerheksgood, you might as well file a bugreport17:11
NetsrotI'm not sure how to make updates work correctly. Since when I update it tries to use the latest kernel17:11
lotuspsychjeNetsrot: feel free to share us your dmesg booted with 5.13.0-23-generic17:12
NetsrotI think this is just a regression since in the past amd apu's used to freeze all the time.17:15
Teridonlong-time sysadmin but Ubuntu noob.  I have some 18.04 systems; somehow they have the 5.4.x series kernel but do NOT have the linux-generic-hwe package.  How does something like that happen (could have been me, unintentionally).17:15
oerheksNetsrot, any new bios versiona available from your vendor??17:16
leftyfbTeridon: GA releases do not yet have a -hwe kernel available and is not installed by default17:16
oerheksTeridon, new 18.04 systems get HWE enabled by default.17:17
Teridonrelated problem:  "apt update" did not update the kernel to the latest; I still have 5.4.0-81-generic, not 5.4.0-91-generic.  I'm using an aptly mirror to pull updates, but I know the mirror has -91 available17:17
NetsrotI think so but I really don't want to update since they have removed features in the past when updating.17:17
Netsrotand not allowing to downgrade17:17
oerheksoh i thought it did, leftyfb after release 18.1017:17
Teridonleftyb should I just go ahead and install the HWE meta package, since I have the 5.4 kernel anyway?17:18
leftyfbTeridon: I always suggest the hwe kernel17:18
oerhekshttps://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/linux-image-generic is without HWE17:19
oerheks4.1517:19
Teridonnessus is telling me I'm vulnerable to https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-5163-1 because I have -81 instead of -9117:20
leftyfbinterestingly, linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 is currently 5.4.0.92.103~18.04.8217:21
TeridonI don't know how to install -91 without installing HWE.  (and I still don't know how I got onto the 5.4.x kernel without installing HWE as well)17:22
leftyfbinstall hwe17:23
MrCollinsGAleftyfb I found a script that I can edit that does what I need it to do via command line!!! :)17:23
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: ok, so no messy GUI now then?17:24
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, yessir!17:24
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: good stuff. Now document it all and rebuild one of your nodes from scratch to make sure you can build it again later17:24
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, thank you for your help. question is there a way to build an 'iso' out of an installed ubuntu install?17:25
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: ansible is great way to document btw. Also has the added benefit of rebuilding the entire thing for you :)17:25
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: see ^17:25
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, I could use some help with ansible. I just dont have the acumen for it man. if it isnt kind of already built, I am climbing up hill. I am willing to learn things.17:26
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: a custom iso won't work when you need to upgrade or change your plans. They're also not something we can support here17:26
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, makes sense and understood17:26
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: start simple. Build a playbook to install a package. Then add some more packages17:27
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, ok im going to give it another shot. could you help me a little? :) I'll try not to bug you too much.17:28
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: as much as my availability allows. In #ansible is the proper place though where they are other people way more versed than me17:28
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, thank you for being able to bounce a question or two Ill be sure to jump in there now.17:29
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: for a simple build, you'll be surprised how easy it is17:29
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: also be sure to get your playbook checked into a (private)github repo so you always have it17:29
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, where is a up to date guide? thats a very good idea.17:30
MrCollinsGAthe one I was using was old and had differences.17:30
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: https://www.ansible.com/blog/getting-started-writing-your-first-playbook17:30
MrCollinsGAansible guide for the dumb and lucky17:30
MrCollinsGAthank you leftyfb17:30
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: most guides you find will still work regardless of how old they are17:30
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, so I could essentially configure one node, then I can tell the other bare metal machines to replicate from this build, basically?17:32
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: nope, you create an inventory of machines that you run ansible against. It then ssh's to and builds all of them at once. Or one at a time with --limit if you like17:33
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, wow17:33
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: I have over a dozen machines and almost as many groups depending on what sort of machine I want to build17:34
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, very nice! :)17:34
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: again, start simple and small. Iterate from there17:35
loganrunI think when I first installed ubuntu it asked me if I wanted to make a rescue disk. How do I get back to  that option17:37
leftyfbloganrun: there is no "rescue disk" as part of the default ubuntu installer17:38
loganruno.k, I have a dual boot system and need to move my windows 10 installation to a bigger drive. I suspect when all is said and done my system will not be bootable. I was trying to figure out what to do17:38
oerheksso, what is your actual issue?17:41
oerheksfix your windows?17:41
loganrun1. probably have to reinstall windows 10 on the new drive which will kill the boot loader I suspect, so I will need to recover it somehow17:42
leftyfbloganrun: will you be putting Windows and Ubuntu on the new drive?17:42
loganrunUbuntu is on one drive and windows on a different one17:42
leftyfbok?17:43
loganrunthe system boots from the linux drive17:43
loganrunso I need to best way to restore the boot configuration after updating windows to the new drive17:43
oerheksinsert windows iso, let it fix itself?17:44
ghostare you dual booting?17:44
loganrunyes, dual booting17:44
ghostyou need grub17:44
oerheksit might be an UEFI thing17:44
loganrunyes, I have grub, it dual boots now, but not after I install windows on my new bigger drive for it17:44
leftyfbloganrun: install Windows on your new drive, replace old Windows drive, in Ubuntu, just boot to it and run "sudo grub-update"17:45
ghostuse your live install media to install/update grub17:46
leftyfbyou don't need to do that17:46
leftyfbUbuntu can boot fine still and you just need to run grub-update to update the grub config with the new drive ... it might not even be needed with the os-prober17:47
ghostI thought he hadn't install the windows yet.17:47
loganrunwindows will kill the dual boot, and make it boot only windows17:47
leftyfbloganrun: unplug ubuntu drive, install new Windows drive. Install Windows. Plug Ubuntu back in. Tell BIOS to boot to Ubuntu drive first. Login to Ubuntu. Run grub-update17:48
ghosti made the mistake one installing windows in legacy mode and ubuntu in uefi mode. Grub dose not like that lol17:49
haysi have a kernel question.  with LTS releases, are there new versions of kernels that ship?17:49
loganrunif I remove the linux drive and put it back in I am not able to boot it any more17:49
loganrunI tried that once before and had to do a reinstall17:50
loganrunI assume it is something with the UEFI17:50
loganrunI tried to back up the keys from the bios, but who knows if that will work after removing a drive17:51
haysive been running LTS for a while and there are newer dot releases... and i can't tell from reading if that means newer kernels or if the newer kernels are just HWE or something17:51
jhutchinsloganrun: You have to have either a BIOS/EFI that can select the boot device, or a boot loader that can select which partition to boot from.17:51
oerhekshays yes17:51
oerheks!hwe17:51
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack17:51
jhutchinsloganrun: Windows won't do that (without some very advanced tweaking).  Grub will, but it has to be written to the MBR _after_ Windows is installed and after Windows writes it's own incompatible MBR.17:52
ghostlogan is this an established windows OS or a fresh install17:52
loganrunjhutchins, it was complainig about the UEFI keys or something though I think if I remove and put the drive back17:52
webchat12hey so i ran impish upgrade (from hirsute) but the installer crashed while fetching packages, now it says partial upgrade but i want a full upgrade right? thx :)17:52
jhutchinsloganrun: Not sure, but that sounds like it might be related to secure boot.17:52
loganruncan I just back up the MBR and rewrite it from a rescue disk or something17:53
jhutchinsloganrun: It's easy to re-install.17:53
loganrunyes, I think it is something related to secure boot, not sure how to get around it17:53
haysoerheks: ok so HWE seems to imply maybe you don't need it unless you have new hardware... or is it the case any other new kernel stuff comes along for the ride17:53
loganrunhow can I tell where it is installed right now17:53
jhutchinsloganrun: Boot to linux media, mount system devices, change root to Linux partition, update grub, install grub.17:54
oerhekshays, no, not about new hardware, newer kernel and components17:54
loganrunI installed Ubuntu with ZFS, I don't think you can just change to the root partition, it is seriously screwy17:54
jhutchins!chroot17:54
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot17:54
bkeysMan I installed snap using flatpak, then I uninstalled flatpak and used snap to reinstall flatpak, then I installed firefox using snap so I could look up the backend snap code only to find out it is proprietary; I feel so betrayed17:55
haysoerheks: why cant I see you in the channel list?  weird that autocomplete doesn't work for you.. but thanks that link helped a lot17:55
ghostLMAO17:56
loganrunwhen you do the zfs install it makes a whole buck of zfs partitions and it isn't clear where the root is17:56
loganrunor how to mount it etc.17:57
loganrunrpool/ROOT/ubuntu_xi5ti1                           35G  5.7G   30G  17% /17:57
loganrunthat is apparently the root17:58
jhutchinsloganrun: So maybe zfs isn't the best choice here.17:59
jhutchinsloganrun: Maybe save that until you're more familiar with the rest of the Linux environment.17:59
jhutchinsloganrun: To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever".  See also <rescue17:59
loganrunyes, but it is what my system is already running, didnt' want to have to rebuild my linux system too17:59
jhutchinsmode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.17:59
loganrunseems like it would be easier if I could just backup and restore the boot sector or something18:03
loganrunor would that not work right if I add a new drive18:03
ghostso I'm running a asus ws c621E with two xeon 4114 cpu's. Ubuntu only recognizes one of the processors18:03
jhutchinsloganrun: Don't fixate on a method, find what works.18:04
jhutchinsghost: How do you see that it only recognises one?18:05
loganruno.k., sounds like sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/home/user/mbr.bak bs=446 count=1, will back it up, will dd if=mbr.bak of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 restore it18:05
oerheksweird number, bs=44618:06
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, best way to set machine to boot to command prompt only?18:06
loganrunhttps://www.simplified.guide/linux/mbr-backup#:~:text=Steps%20to%20backup%20Master%20Boot%20Record%20from%20Linux%3A,in%20case%20of%20MBR%20corruption%20in%20the%20future.18:06
oerheksloganrun, where did you read that?18:06
oerhekslolz18:06
ghostsystem monitor shows i only have 10 cores18:06
loganrunno clue if it is right, but I got it from that link18:07
oerheksloganrun, you said uefi ..18:07
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, I think i got it.18:07
loganrunyeah, my actual device would be /dev/nvme0n1 I think18:07
loganrunyeah, my actual device would be /dev/nvme0 I think18:08
bkeysINSTALL SNAP18:09
leftyfbMrCollinsGA: sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target18:09
MrCollinsGAthats it? LOL :)18:09
leftyfbbkeys: can we help you with something?18:09
MrCollinsGAleftyfb, thank you18:09
MrCollinsGAreboot and thats it? :)18:10
leftyfbyes18:11
haysit seems like zfs may still be slightly experimental.. tied to zsys stuff?18:12
haysat any rate maybe running zfs root is something to hold off on for a while unless you really have a use case or are just experimenting18:16
MrCollinsGAbest way to uninstall any and all gui's from a machine? I googled this and found 100 different ways. Dont want to bork my system. Ubuntu removed simple solution I am reading?18:22
loganrunyeah, with EFI System partition type, it isn't clear how to back up the boot sector or if that is even possible18:25
loganrunmaybe I have to make a backup image of the whole drive and try to restore that. sheesh, this is  a serious pain18:26
loganrundual boot sucks18:26
geniiMrCollinsGA: There's not really a satisfactory way to do this, the packages which install each respective desktop environment are metapackages which are just lists of other actual packages so uninstalling or even purging them does not remove the underlying stuff which they installed18:26
MrCollinsGAgenii, so either deal with it or reinstall?18:26
pitchshifterwow i just got here and that sounds like my linux experience in a nutshell18:27
MrCollinsGApitchshifter, aint that the truth xD You just gotta be smart which I am not! :) at least compared some of these guys man! :)18:28
geniiMrCollinsGA: There are suggestions online sometimes which give the lists of the packages each metapackage installs as the arguments to purge, but doing this often removes dependecies which break a system. Reinstall is the best option18:28
loganrunI thought thwere was an apt-get cleanup option that removed dependencies that are no longer needed18:28
pitchshifter^18:28
MrCollinsGAgenii, understood and message rcvd I humbly thank you and leftyfb  very much18:29
loganrunautoremove18:29
geniiloganrun: There is, but when you purge some package which layers down in dependencies to something essential to operation, it doesn't differentiate that18:30
loganrunok18:31
pitchshifteris there a difference between "apt" and "apt-get" as commands? are they different packages? they both seem to do the same things in the same ways.18:33
geniiapt basically just amalgamates the apt-get and apt-cache commands18:35
loganrunapt is 19k and apt-get is 47k18:36
pitchshifterlongrun, what do those numbers mean?18:37
pitchshifterloganrun*18:37
loganrunthe size of the executables for apt and apt-get18:37
pitchshifterif apt is the alamgamation, shouldn't it be larger?18:38
rfmI believe apt actually calls apt-get18:38
pitchshifterso its a symboliclink?18:38
shadow255or apt-cache as appropriate18:38
rfmnot a symbolic link.  apt has a different (simpler) syntax, fewer options, etc.  basically it provides a simpler to type command that covers all the normal cases18:39
pitchshifterah ok18:39
rfmonly if somebody needs to do something special do they need to call apt-get directly18:40
ioriaespecially in scripts18:41
rfmalso, the apt syntax, being intended to type in directly, is subject to change from release to release, while apt-get tries to keep the syntax compatible, so apt-get is appropriate to call in scripts18:41
pitchshifteroh that's good to know.  thanks yall18:42
ahh_g18:57
MrCollinsGAwhen I ssh into a system and begin a process, is there a way to close the ssh window and let said process to continue to do its thing?19:28
GSMarquisGoing to test my thinkpad with ubuntu and a TB3 dock.....this is the highlight of my weekend.19:29
jkcMrCollinsGA: In general, apt will mark a package as either manually installed, or automatically installed. Packages that are marked auto-installed are eligible for removal via `apt autoremove`. So as long as you remove whichever manually-installed packages brought in the rest as dependencies, apt autoremove will handle the rest.19:30
MrCollinsGAjkc, are you answering a question above or the one I just asked? :)19:30
jkc(apt autoremove will not remove auto-installed packages that are still required as dependencies for other installed packages)19:30
jkcMrCollinsGA: The question above.19:30
MrCollinsGAjkc, very good. that is good to know! tyvm!19:31
oerheksMreasy to find; nohup19:31
jkcMrCollinsGA: As for your more recent question, I'd check out byobu. Starts an easy-to-manage tmux session that remains alive after you disconnect.19:31
oerhekshttps://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/479/keep-processes-running-after-ssh-session-disconnects19:31
jkcMrCollinsGA: It's better than nohup because you can log in later and still interact with the running process, rather than just shoving it into the background.19:31
oerheksyeah, also tmux can do that19:31
MrCollinsGAsometimes I dont know the right question to ask so maybe this is easy to find for you guys. I am trying to get better19:31
MrCollinsGAjkc ok19:31
jkcMrCollinsGA: byobu is, I believe, installed by default.19:32
MrCollinsGAok so just man byobu19:32
jkcIt's easier than that. Just 'byobu'.19:32
oerheksand running questions in multiple channels .. MrCollinsGA ?19:32
jkcIf your connection dies or you terminate it, log back in and run 'byobu' again.19:32
oerhekskeep us busy :-D19:33
MrCollinsGAoerheks, yes just trying to learn all I can. I have 50 google windows open19:33
MrCollinsGAim googling trust !! LOL19:33
jkcMrCollinsGA: It is considered an IRC social error to crosspost questions. Keep your questions to the channel that supports the OS you're currently using.19:33
oerheksi am tired of that.19:33
MrCollinsGAwhat do you mean?19:34
MrCollinsGAI only asked this question in one channel?19:34
jkcThen I misunderstood oerheks.19:34
MrCollinsGAi only ask questions in one channel until maybe 24 hours if no one answers ill try another channel or just keep searching19:35
MrCollinsGAI start at google and search first. I never want to bother anyone.19:35
oerheksyou just put questions out everywhere, so i take it no longer seriously.19:35
MrCollinsGAwhats wrong with multiple questions?19:37
MrCollinsGAif its out of context and off topic I understand.19:38
MrCollinsGAjkc, byobu wonderful simple program. love it. tyvm19:50
grynice find19:51
jkcMrCollinsGA: You can open multiple shells in byobu. There are a lot of commands accessible via ctrl+a - by default - and then a command key. ctrl+a, c creates a new shell, ctrl+a, d detaches you from the byobu session, etc.19:52
MrCollinsGAjkc wonderful. tyvm19:52
* MrCollinsGA bows to jkc19:53
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blahboybazI'm encountering errors when upgrading Ubuntu 20.04 - is there some know issue wtih this?21:19
oerheksblahboybaz, use a pastebin for the output please?21:20
oerheks!paste21:20
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:20
blahboybazhttps://pastebin.com/HC5cThCc21:20
sarnoldblahboybaz: you may have a full filesystem or a broken raid; check df output, and check dmesg output21:21
blahboybazsarnold: I've got 204.3 G available out of 500  according to disk usage analyzer21:25
sarnoldblahboybaz: and how much free space on the filesystem that holds /boot ?21:26
blahboybazEverything had been working fine until last night; then, when I got on the computer the first time today I started getting a small pop up from the o/s saying "System program problem detected" with the option to report it or cancel (buttons). I decided to try to upgrade the system (see if it needed it) and that's what led me here with what I'm describing when I came to the channel21:27
blahboybaz$ df -m /boot21:28
blahboybazFilesystem     1M-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on21:28
blahboybaz/dev/nvme0n1p2       705   599        55  92% /boot21:28
blahboybazHow does an o/s allow that to happen tho?21:28
sarnoldblahboybaz: that 'sudo apt autoremove21:29
sarnold.. command that was suggested in the output might help21:29
blahboybazI'll see21:29
blahboybazJust that the problem occured where the upgrade happend all in one lump - ie: 2 packages out of a larger upgrade where the upgrade included both the problem packages and the ones that came in without any issue (in one upgrade)21:31
sarnoldyeah :( and depending upon what broke, when, backing out of this problem can be a real pain if you don't know what to do21:32
sarnoldI'm hoping the sudo apt autoremove just works, and then you can continue :)21:32
blahboybazsarnold: It seems as if that worked.. I'll see how things play out as I used the computer here21:32
sarnoldblahboybaz: good good ;) try sudo apt install -f   now21:33
blahboybazit did some funny stuff (to me anyway) then it seemed to resolve everything21:33
blahboybazthanks21:33
blahboybazsarnold: Is there a way to check if anything is held or broken install before issuing a -f flag in a command?21:34
blahboybazI'm no expert but it appears as if everything is fine (just want to be sure tho)21:34
sarnoldblahboybaz: in this case, the -f flag means --fix-broken  -- it's far safer and happier to run than eg rm -f  :)21:35
blahboybazoh21:35
blahboybazright on21:35
sarnoldI'm not actually sure if dpkg or apt knows what's broken at that moment or not .. I *think* dpkg -l   | grep -v ^rc | grep -v ^ii   would probably show you what's funny21:35
blahboybazsarnold: Early on back around 15 yrs ago (Ubuntu 12.04 era) I was told to run  $ rm -Rf  in a forum post (maliciaous) I did and I learned a really tough lesson  :)21:36
sarnold:(21:36
sarnoldthat sucks :( I'm sorry to hear it :(21:36
blahboybazThat was when I first started w/ Ubu21:36
oerheksgood to know such command is now blocked21:38
blahboybazoerheks: No kidding? That's kinda cool21:38
sarnoldit'll prevent simple mistakes anyway21:39
blahboybazfor sure21:40
neilduganI have upgraded from 18.04.5 to 20.04 and lxc has stopped working ... been trying to fix ... whenever lxc is run I get the error ... cannot change profile for the next exec call: No such file or directory ... and "ps -AF | grep lxd" ... show nothing.22:29
sarnoldneildugan: have you rebooted recently?22:30
neildugansarnold, yes - lots.22:31
neildugansarnold, once a "systemctl start snap.lxd.daemon" seemed to fix things ... but after reboot ... it didn't22:33
neildugansarnold, a "systemctl status snap.lxd.daemon" shows some errors ... not sure what they mean.22:34
sarnoldneildugan: aha, cool, can you pastebin those? I'll give them a look; it might just need someone with more lxd experience, but I can look anyway :)22:38
neildugansarnold, here is the status https://pastebin.com/KiRqdZ3622:42
neildugansarnold, oops the wrong paste hang on a sec.22:44
ograneildugan, is snapd.apparmor.service up and running ?22:46
neildugansarnold, ogra, here is the correct pastebin https://pastebin.com/RnhhJZQQ22:47
ogra(note there hae been a few posts around "cannot change profile for next exec call ..." on forum.snapcraft.io )22:47
ogra*have22:47
neilduganogra, Unit snapd.apparmor.service.service could not be found.22:48
sarnoldtoo many 'service'22:49
neilduganogra, "service snapd.apparmor status" ... Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/snapd.apparmor.service; disabled; vendor preset: enabled)22:50
neilduganogra, should I enable it?22:50
ograneildugan, try:  systemctl enable --now snapd.apparmor.service ... then try restarting the lxd snap with "sudo snap restart lxd"22:52
neilduganogra, "systemctl enable --now snapd.apparmor.service" ... "snap restart lxd" .... "lxc list" .... "Error: Get "http://unix.socket/1.0": dial unix /var/snap/lxd/common/lxd/unix.socket: connect: connection refused"22:54
ograhmm22:55
neilduganogra, "systemctl status snap.lxd.daemon" ... is still showing errors22:55
ograneildugan, never use systemctl on snap services ... use the snap command (it has a ton of commands and ptions for services and logs)22:57
ogratry "snap logs lxd"22:57
neilduganogra, "systemctl restart snap.lxd.daemon" ... now no error visable22:58
neilduganogra, "lxc list" worked... do you think I should reboot to see if this 'sticks' ?22:58
ograwell, if the apparmor service stays enabled now it should work ... try it22:59
neilduganogra, this will take some time.22:59
ograi got to go AFK anyway, if it does not work, go to forum.snapcraft.io and post in the snapd category23:00
ogra(the snapd apparmor service should definitely not be disabled, curious how you got in that state on ubuntu (i have seen it on fresh installs on other distros, but never on ubuntu))23:01
neilduganogra, thanks for the help. this has been a problem for many hours now.23:02
NobremHello23:04
NobremHas anyone of your ever used DaVinci Resolve?23:04
NobremThere seems to be no IRC channel catering to Davince Resolve users,  and I would be using it on Ubuntu,  so ... maybe I could ask here?23:04
neilduganogra, that work fine :-)23:06
ogra👋/23:08
matsamanNobrem: ask23:15
Nobremmatsaman, thank you - typing now!23:16
NobremSo, I am producing some "time lapse" videos.  The term time lapse means, that the videos are being sped up massively.23:17
NobremI would like to show the time not as timestamp, but as relative time.23:17
Nobrem1 minute23:17
Nobrem2 minutes23:17
Nobremand so on23:17
Nobremafter 59 minutes,  it should go to hourly23:17
Nobrem1 hour23:17
Nobrem2 hours23:17
Nobremwithout displaying the minutes any longer23:18
NobremCurrently, I am doing this all in "ffmpeg"  (which I love)23:18
Nobremthe benefit with "ffmpeg" is, that I can speed up the video whereever I want afterwards,  because the timestamp is in the video itself23:18
neilduganNobrem, sounds like you need a script parsing 'uptime'23:19
Nobremneildugan, thank you for your answer.  Is this something Davince Resolve can do?23:19
matsamanoh, I thought you were saying you use ffmpeg to add the timestamps themselves, which is probably what I would do23:19
NobremI am also open to using an open source alternative,  e.g.  shotcut or kdenlive23:19
Nobremmatsaman, yep, my bash script works for that in "ffmpeg"23:20
Nobrembut the videos are in 4K and 200 GB large23:20
Nobremso, it takes a really long, long, long time doing so23:20
matsamanhow are people consuming these videos?23:20
Nobremthe exported videos will only be very short..23:20
Nobremmatsaman, I take it you don't like such videos? ;)23:21
matsamanI like videos alright23:21
NobremMy idea is,  if I only applied the times to the parts of the video which get really exported, it would save time23:21
Nobremediting a 10-15 min video is less than adding time stamps to 2 hours video material23:21
Nobremneildugan?23:22
Nobremneildugan, you answered me before,  thank you for that,  but please clarify:  Is this something Davince Resolve can do?  (the script)23:23
Nobremat the moment, my work flow seems to be so lengthy... taking a 200 GB video and producing an other 200 GB video just with timestamps in it23:23
NobremI should better import the 200 GB video into DaVinci Resolve (or shotcut or kdenlive) and only add the timestamps to the SHORT exported video23:24
oerheksh26x is not supported in the free version Linux version ..23:28
Nobremoerheks, wow, that's a problem23:30
Nobremso I will have to buy the software then23:30
Nobremwhat about shotcut?23:30
oerheksthat is a long standing issue, making a correct coder23:31
oerheks.. but we will get there :-P23:31
Nobremoerheks, are you a part of the DaVince Resolve crew?  (you just said "we")23:31
Nobrem*DaVinci23:32
oerhekswe as in the opensource community23:32
oerheksnope, i was just curious howfar they are23:32
NobremIs the free version of Davinci Resolve Open Source?23:32
Nobremcould I use "ffmpeg" to change the codec of said exported videos from Davinci Resolve, or would that lead to a loss of quality?23:33
Nobrembecause ffmpeg can definitely change codecs,  the question is only,  if that would be a bad idea to do so23:33
marc_Anyone know how to display the linkspeeds on graphics card and nvme drives23:34
oerheksany change is basicly loss of quality, it is not original anymore. question is do you notice it.23:34
oerheksmarc_, on what ubuntu version?23:35
oerheksstandard gnome; vitals comes in mind, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1460/vitals/23:36
marc_Linux SUPERMICRO-X9DRH-iF 5.13.0-23-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 26 11:41:15 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux23:36
oerheksor such23:36
marc_My system is set to gen3 in bios yet ubuntu is setup for gen2 anyone know how to fix this.23:51

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