| croraf | Regarding my discussion the other day about https://people.canonical.com/~kernel/info/kernel-version-map.html | 08:30 |
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| croraf | Can we make that instead of focal:linux-hwe-5.11 and focal:linux-hwe-5.13 it stands hwe and hwe-edge, because these are the proper names | 08:30 |
| croraf | If I'm right. | 08:31 |
| klebers | croraf, that map shows the versions of the source packages. For the hwe kernels, what tell which kernel is the hwe and which is the hwe-edge are the meta packages which are not represented there | 13:46 |
| Odd_Bloke | Hey folks, are there any plans to bump kpatch to a more recent version for jammy? | 21:51 |
| chiluk | Hey folks. Anyone know why we don't have nvidia-driver-stable and nvidia-driver-testing meta packages in Ubuntu? | 22:31 |
| chiluk | it seems like a no brainer... | 22:31 |
| chiluk | it's so easy to get left behind with nvidia-drivers now-adays. | 22:32 |
| sarnold | chiluk: I've always assumed that was because nvidia abandons old drivers aggressively enough that a lot of folks are on abandoned series | 22:55 |
| sarnold | it's *really* annoying for the folks who are stuck on eg nvidia-340, because that has a bug that prevents it from installing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1853977 | 22:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1853977 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-340 (Ubuntu) "nvidia-340 dpkg: error: version '-' has bad syntax: revision number is empty" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 22:56 |
| chiluk | sarnold that kind of seems like an excuse... | 23:09 |
| chiluk | sarnold are you aware of any wiki's describing the existing "right" way for end users to do nvidia drivers in Ubuntu? | 23:09 |
| chiluk | if it's simply install nvidia-drivers-### that seems error prone. | 23:10 |
| chiluk | we really should instead prefer install nvidia-drivers-stable meta package which depends on nvidia-drivers-###... | 23:10 |
| chiluk | that way people don't get "stuck" as you so astutely put it. | 23:10 |
| sarnold | chiluk: I think "ubuntu-drivers install" is the recommended tool | 23:11 |
| sarnold | the trouble is that nvidia no longer cares about device XYZ after N months | 23:11 |
| chiluk | oh interesting.. I was unfamiliar with that. | 23:11 |
| sarnold | so we've got to have the old drivers available | 23:11 |
| chiluk | it's not months though. | 23:11 |
| chiluk | it's like YEARS.. | 23:11 |
| sarnold | and we can't just apt upgrade people along the way, because the next major version of the driver might drop their device entirely | 23:11 |
| chiluk | that's a really good point... | 23:12 |
| chiluk | that's a good reason to not have the meta package. | 23:12 |
| sarnold | I'm not sure when exactly they drop support, it probably has more to do with the hardware specifics than any hard rule | 23:12 |
| sarnold | I just know that there's a lot of folks who have cards that aren't supported by the latest, and they'd like to keep using those cards on ubuntu | 23:12 |
| chiluk | sarnold: yeah it's usually they are trying to drop code paths that are optimized differently for the newer architectures. | 23:13 |
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