[02:03] <jhutchins> sem: Ok, you probably need to do the dkms install of the nvidia driver that covers the 340.  I'm not sure if that's available in the extended drivers for Ubuntu or not.  You've probably done it before.
[02:03] <jhutchins> There's a kernel module that has to be updated to the release point of your chipset, otherwise it can't find the adddress to load it.  You can find the messages about that in dmesg - pretty sure the kernel module is "nv".
[03:05] <locsmif> Hi all. Why are all ISO mirrors worldwide so slow? Is it no longer possible to download an ISO at speeds of >1MB/s?
[03:05] <locsmif> Even the torrents fluctuate between 4MB/s (my subscription max) and 50Kb/s... speedtest is completely normal
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> locsmif: testing one at 5.5mbit on my end
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> must be your sides problem locsmif
[03:07] <locsmif> It's nice that torrents have high peak speeds but those peaks are few and far between... It's like speeds regressed 15 years
[03:07] <locsmif> oh
[03:07] <locsmif> Straighht ISO download?
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> yep
[03:08] <locsmif> k, let me reboot my router
[03:22] <axsuul> I had an issue this evening where my server completely stopped responding and the only way past it was to reboot. The console had this before I rebooted: https://www.dropbox.com/s/915qcfp6feocoe3/console.jpg?dl=0  but not sure what to pinpoint as the root cause. What are you guys' thoughts?
[03:29] <guiverc> axsuul, I'd check hardware (SMART, PSU etc) as all i see are IO errors on what looks like nvme/disk devices
[03:30] <axsuul> guiverc : thank you, will investigate those
[03:45] <AugustusCaesar24> how do you set python 3.9 as the default python of ubuntu?
[03:46] <AugustusCaesar24> I tried                   alias python='/usr/bin/python3.9'                    and then it works, but when I reboot the system, it keeps defaulting to 3.6
[03:47] <Fryuni> If you just want the default for running on the terminal add that exact line at the end of `~/.bash_aliases`
[03:47] <AugustusCaesar24> I want it to use python 3.9 for everything
[03:48] <AugustusCaesar24> I am running a python program on the server and it requires it to use python 3.9
[03:52] <Fryuni> If you run `ls -l /usr/bin/python*` you'll see that there are multiple python executable (and related). Normally `/usr/bin/python` is just a link to an actual python executable. You can delete it and create a new one pointing to `/usr/bin/python3.9`
[03:52] <AugustusCaesar24> would it be safe to do that?
[03:55] <Fryuni> If the default is pointing to another 3.x version, then pretty much yes, there should not be any breaking changes. If the default is python2 then there might be services depending on that, the best-practice would be to use `python2` but if there are any depending on `python` being version 2 they would break
[03:58] <AugustusCaesar24> okay lets try it then
[04:07] <AugustusCaesar24> it worked!
[05:56] <namanama> hi there
[06:01] <alpha> yo
[06:08] <fuze> Im trying to install this onedrive client on kubuntu 21.10 (https://github.com/abraunegg/onedrive/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md) and I'm getting "E: Package 'libphobos2-ldc-shared82' has no installation candidate". I added the debian repo as specified in the install README. How do I get this installed?
[06:09] <gry> fuze ask #linux or #debian
[06:09] <gry> fuze actually no, not #debian, this is kubuntu. sorry, i take that back
[06:11] <alpha> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=impish&section=all&arch=any&keywords=libphobos2&searchon=names
[06:11] <alpha> Maybe try installing either of those?
[06:11] <fuze> alpha: I have it doesnt work since it requires this specific dependency
[06:12] <alpha> https://pkgs.org/download/libphobos2-ldc-shared82
[06:12] <alpha> What about that one?
[06:13] <fuze> alpha: error: cannot satisfy dependencies when i try to install
[06:14] <fuze> ok it let me install through command line
[06:15] <fuze> I think that worked
[06:15] <alpha> https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/onedrive
[06:15] <alpha> That says it uses libphobos2-ldc-shared94
[06:16] <alpha> You sure you picked for 21.10?
[06:16] <fuze> The onedrive package in the offical repo is outdated and not the same as this one https://github.com/abraunegg/onedrive/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md
[06:17] <fuze> It says "Note: Do not install from Ubuntu Universe"
[06:20] <alpha> So it is working?
[06:20] <fuze> yes
[06:21] <alpha> Nice. I went down a rabbit hole earlier trying to work on a yakauake change and ended up in dependency hell
[06:22] <ELQEYNN> Ubuntu Universe ... Is that one of the software repositories?
[06:48] <mmx_in_orbit> how to add my new drive i just bought as free space to my very low free space ubuntu installation?
[06:49] <mmx_in_orbit> sort of merge the system drive and the newly purchased drive?
[06:51] <mmx_in_orbit> i'm trying to install an app but i don't have enough space but i do have a new 4 terabyte that has plenty of space available
[06:54] <rfm> mmx_in_orbit,  it depends on how you did your current install.  If you used lvm or zfs, you can just span the volume group or zpool over the new space.  if not it's quite a bit more complicated (and you can't easily make it just one big file system)
[07:03] <alpha> clone the old partition to the new drive and then expand the new partition. I don't know the steps for that
[07:18] <mmx_in_orbit> okay thanks y'all
[07:30] <tomreyn> fuze: in case you did not notice: the libphobos2-ldc-shared82 package alpha pointed you to is not an ubuntu package, and thus may not be compatible to your system. installing packages from random sources without verifying their authenticity and their origin is a security issue.
[07:31] <tomreyn> you may want to notify the onedrive client software developer (abraunegg) that their apt repository is not suitable for your ubuntu release (unless their documentation already states that)
[07:39] <tomreyn> fuze: https://downloadcontent.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-ubuntu-onedrive/xUbuntu_21.10/Packages says that package "onedrive" version 2.4.15-1~np1 depends on "libphobos2-ldc-shared94" version 1:1.24.0 or greater. So it's unclear why your system is looking for package "libphobos2-ldc-shared82" in the error message you posted: "E: Package 'libphobos2-ldc-shared82' has no installation candidate"
[07:39] <tomreyn> package "libphobos2-ldc-shared94" is available in Ubuntu 21.10 from the "universe" repository
[07:39] <tomreyn> !universe
[07:40] <tomreyn> ELQEYNN: yes, see ^
[09:02] <OpenBDSM> how come on ubuntu my locale file doesn't include en_GB.UTF-8 (and thus en_US.UTF-8 is set as default for most stuff) and yet my calendar is somehow still sane and shows week starts at mondays?
[09:16] <ELQEYNN> I'm new to ubuntu. What is the snap directory for?
[09:32] <Maik> ELQEYNN: for installed snap packages
[10:54] <jinnjus> cd
[11:06] <ueberall> Anyone seen references to/plans w.r.t. a "linux-oem-20.04e" package already? Given that kernel v5.15 is the latest LTS release, it should be suitable to replace linux-oem-20.04[cd]…
[11:26] <mago> Hi, got trouble upgrading virtualbox
[12:26] <jwhitmore> Hello all, I've a number of headless devices running Ubuntu 20,04 and a very few of them are reporting an issue in /var/log/auth.log that /dev/console is not a tty. I've searched for that error online, but all I can get is info about what a tty is and what the console is. But thinking helpful on that error. Like I say only a few are afected and all of them it appears that /dev/console is setup correctly with device
[12:26] <jwhitmore> numbers "tty 5"
[12:28] <jwhitmore> grub.cgf has a linux line which sets two entries for console, console=tty0 and console=ttyS0
[12:32] <jwhitmore> Sorry /dev/console device numbers are 5, 1  Actually that might be the issue /dev/tty0 is 4, 0 and /dev/ttyS0 is 4, 64. I'll check if that is the problem pattern across the board
[12:47] <brutex> after installing 21.10
[12:47] <brutex> after booting, on console mode or graphical interface kbd and mouse freezes
[12:47] <brutex> legacy oprom
[12:47] <brutex> no uefi
[12:48] <brutex> in uefi does no freezes
[13:18] <cart_man> Which is the best Virtual Desktop software for Ubuntu 20?  I want to be able to swap desktops. I thought this came standar on Ubuntu?
[13:20] <jchittum> jwhitmore: by default, Ubuntu server will set the console to tty0 and ttyS0 or tty1 and ttyS0. If you're running on hardware, sometimes the physical connections can be different. Or there can be multiple physical outputs, and the device mapping get wonky
[13:25] <jwhitmore> jchittum, thank you. I was looking for device numbers 5,1 but even on working systems I have those device numbers reported from 'ls- -l' so it's not that. I agree with your 'wonky' but I'm not sure where the kernel marries a device number to a physical port. I guess I need to look at commands for hardware info to see if the issue is in some discrepency there
[13:35] <jchittum> jwhitmore: in case you hadn't found the kernel docs on tty's: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.14/admin-guide/serial-console.html?highlight=serial%20console
[13:36] <jchittum> i'm re-reviewing them now. I can't remember if they give details on the mappings. but you can check in `/sys/class/tty/*` to see mappings of tty to device
[13:36] <jchittum> an example from my laptop: ls -al /sys/class/tty/tty1  :  rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jan  7 09:16 /sys/class/tty/tty1 -> ../../devices/virtual/tty/tty1
[13:37] <jchittum> so it's a mismatch between the real console and virtual console. so it might be that you can just set the `grub.cfg` terminal line to the correct virtual mapping, and be fixed
[13:44] <jwhitmore> Thanks for the Kernel docs I'll go through them. if I list /sys/class/tty/console I get /sys/class/tty/console -> ../../devices/virtual/tty/console
[13:44] <jwhitmore> That points to a device with numbers 5,1 again
[13:54] <Guest7432> hi
[13:55] <Guest7432> hi any one here?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:55] <Guest7432> are you new here ?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> nope, are you?
[13:56] <Guest7432> ya
[13:57] <Guest7432> i need learn haking
[14:09] <sem> jhutchins, I think I understand what you're saying. If I've already used 'ubuntu-drivers
[14:09] <sem> ' to install the DKMS for the 5.8 kernel line, I need to find out how to install it for the 5.4 line, when it already thinks it has installed itself
[14:11] <sem> https://askubuntu.com/questions/53364/command-to-rebuild-all-dkms-modules-for-all-installed-kernels
[14:17] <sem> looks like the problem was (or one problem was) headers were not yet installed for 5.4.0-92
[14:18] <sem> (I am switching to the 5.4 line to see if it will make the random crashes stop)
[14:29] <sem> wonder if this is related: 'Unstable clock detected, switching default tracing clock to "global"'
[15:05] <xaero> hi, is there any support for rtw89 kernel module yet? (for realtek 8852 chipset) , afaik it is in kernel 5.16 but i'm unsure if it has been backported to 5.13 in ubuntu
[15:05] <xaero> thanks in advance
[15:06] <xaero> hm i see from patchwork it should be in impish? https://ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/impish/main/proposed/linux
[15:22] <dust> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/91.4.1/releasenotes/ first offered to channel users on December 17, 2021... 91.3.1 is the repo version... https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2021-54/
[15:24] <leftyfb> dust: is there an ubuntu support question in there?
[15:24] <dust> leftyfb, isnt that obvious?
[15:24] <leftyfb> no
[15:25] <dust> updates for security fixes isnt obvious?
[15:25] <leftyfb> dust: what is the question you need answered?
[15:26] <Maik> probably when thunderbird 91.4 enters the repo's
[15:26] <dust> its not a question but a reminder that thunderbird needs a security update
[15:26] <leftyfb> dust: this isn't the place to report such things. Check launchpad
[15:26] <Maik> contact the maintainers on launchpad dust
[15:26] <leftyfb> that said, the snap is already up to date
[15:27] <dust> the ubuntu repo isnt...
[15:27] <leftyfb> dust: see Maik's comment above
[15:27] <Coco92> Hello, i want to ask which grub option i need that the initramfs knows to unlock the luks encrypted root partition?
[15:51] <axsuul> I had an issue this evening where my server completely stopped responding and the only way past it was to reboot. The console had this before I rebooted: https://www.dropbox.com/s/915qcfp6feocoe3/console.jpg?dl=0  but not sure what to pinpoint as the root cause. What are you guys' thoughts? I have already run SMART checks etc and they are fine so not sure if it's due to hardware
[15:53] <shadow255> axsuul: time to make sure your backups are good - looks like a hard drive may be failing to me
[15:55] <axsuul> shadow255 : sorry, I forgot to also mention that the server is hosted at a datacenter and their tech also checked the drive and found no issue. Is there anything I can do on my end to double check?
[15:56] <leftyfb> axsuul: it's a filesystem/drive issue
[15:56] <shadow255> axsuul: ahh, that changes things - those errors look like something went quite wrong with the filesystem
[15:56] <leftyfb> axsuul: if you have out of band access, run an fsck
[15:57] <axsuul> ok gotcha thanks guys, will try fsck
[15:58] <axsuul> could writing to /dev/shm be related to this somehow? I recently started using it as a ramdrive
[15:58] <leftyfb> axsuul: nvme0n1p4 is not shm
[15:59] <axsuul> ah ok, that clarifies it, thanks
[15:59] <leftyfb> it's very specifically the 4th partition
[15:59] <leftyfb> axsuul: it's in the error message you posted
[16:21] <elgokugamers> hola soy nuevo
[16:21] <leftyfb> !es | elgokugamers
[16:44] <newbe> hallo ich habe passwort für mein s 21 ultra vergessen was brauche ich für tool für unlock? Nutze pareent os
[16:45] <EriC^^> !de | newbe
[16:52] <Maik> newbe: never heard of pareent os but it's not supported here. This is a Ubuntu support channel.
[17:18] <cart_man> Which is the best Virtual Desktop software for Ubuntu 20?  I want to be able to swap desktops. I thought this came standar on Ubuntu?
[17:19] <Maik> never heard of ubuntu 20 but i guess you mean 20.04 :)
[17:20] <Maik> and there's no best, it's all a matter of personal preferences and experiences. I use Gnome Boxes in the past for testing isos.
[17:21] <oerheks> !kvm
[17:22] <leftyfb> Maik: they're referring to desktop workspaces
[17:22] <leftyfb> which default ubuntu(gnome) has "standar"
[17:23] <Maik> are they? if so, my bad
[17:23] <Maik> only cart_man can clarify
[17:35] <webchat32> I am on ubuntu-20.04-desktop with GCC version 9.3.0. I am trying to install and use system tap but I keep getting '''/tmp/stappRYvPe/stap_5b431c2a80115168543eb3be7f838af0_1625813_src.c:236986:22: error: storage size of ‘ts’ isn’t known
[17:35] <webchat32> 236986 |  struct compat_timex ts;
[17:35] <webchat32>        |                      ^~
[17:35] <webchat32> 236994 |       sizeof(struct compat_timex)) == 0)'''. I am not sure if this is related to the version of GCC I am trying to run. The stap script I am trying to run is found at this link: https://sourceware.org/systemtap/examples/process/strace.stp
[17:36] <leftyfb> webchat32: contact sourceware.org for support with their software
[17:36] <leftyfb> also, please use pastebin for posting more than 1 line at a time
[17:37] <webchat32> ok! Sorry about that
[17:39] <jhutchins> Most channels will accept up to 4 lines.
[17:39] <jhutchins> Mind you, this isn't the 1980s, you're not going to flood the modem buffers (which is where that rule comes from).
[17:40] <sem> Whoa I never knew that's why the flood rules originated
[17:54]  * ogra pets his 56k modem 
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:58] <cart_man> Maik: So doesnt Ubuntu come with Gnome standard?
[17:59] <cart_man> leftyfb: ^^
[17:59] <Maik> cart_man: Ubuntu 20.04 comes with Gnome 3
[18:00] <cart_man> Ok so ... I do see workspaces in there but I can not seem to change the default Swapping hotkeys. Anybdoy got any ideas?
[18:00] <cart_man> Also where to I get into the settings of the actual workspaces?
[18:01] <Maik> though it's modified a bit but should work the same as always. Switching desktop workspaces is there by default as always
[18:01] <Maik> cart_man: i don't use Gnome but i guess it's in the Gnome Tweak tool settings?
[18:02] <Maik> aka Tweaks
[18:02] <Maik> maybe lotuspsychje knows? ^
[18:03] <cart_man> Maik: So out of interest..what do you use if not Gnome?
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> cart_man: hotkeys you change in the gnomes settings
[18:03] <Maik> it's offtopic but i use Unity cart_man
[18:08] <TheCodeTherapy> Speaking of workspaces, it would be super cool to be able to change the top bar to a non-primary monitor by default.
[18:24] <jchittum> cart_man: to change the setting (currently on an Impish desktop), go to settings -> keyboard -> keyboard shortcuts -> customize -> search for "workspace"
[18:59] <Fisher> Hello, all
[18:59] <Fisher> I’m having a problem on my Ubuntu server machine at my home where it has a behavior I can best describe as “going to sleep”. I can’t access it through SSH (no response) any ideas anyone?
[19:00] <Fisher> i am running Ubuntu Server 20.04.3
[19:03] <ramblebamble> Fisher, how do you access it from the outside? do you have a static ip or dyndns? also ssh-from inside or outside your network?
[19:05] <leftyfb> Fisher: also how is it connected? Wired or Wireless? (seems like a silly question, but some servers are actually connected wirelessly)
[19:08] <Fisher> Thanks for getting back to me: ramblebamble, it is a static IP on my home network, and I really only ssh into it from home; leftyfb, it is Wired through Ethernet
[19:09] <leftyfb> Fisher: are you able to perform this test while also being connected to it locally? We obviously can't troubleshoot a server you can no longer access
[19:09] <Fisher> leftyfb, yeah I am connected through SSH right this second, but sometimes it just shuts off and times out when I try to SSH into it
[19:10] <leftyfb> Fisher: ok, so this happens while on the local network as well? Not just remotely though your router?
[19:10] <Fisher> leftyfb, yeah it happens locally and remotely
[19:10] <leftyfb> Fisher: when it happens, what do you do to regain access?
[19:10] <Fisher> leftyfb: I restart the machine
[19:11] <Fisher> physically, that is
[19:11] <leftyfb> Fisher: have you tried logging into it using a keyboard and monitor?
[19:12] <Fisher> leftyfb: you know what, I haven't when it is in that state where I can't access it remotely
[19:12] <leftyfb> Fisher: there's no telling what might be wrong with it. You really should get a keyboard and monitor on it to see what's going on when it happens
[19:12] <Fisher> leftyfb: gotcha!
[19:21] <ice9> can someone point me to the right package for jitsi client as i can't find it here: https://download.jitsi.org/stable/
[19:22] <ice9> the client not the server
[19:22] <mybalzitch> pick a recent .deb?
[19:22] <mybalzitch> whats the client, jitsi meet?
[19:23] <CodeMouse92> mybalzitch: If you're wanting jitsi meet, you actually only need to go to meet.jit.si in your browser, no client needed
[19:23] <CodeMouse92> Er...sorry, ice9
[19:23] <ice9> mybalzitch, it requires other packages like prosody, video bridge etc.. these are needed for the server one not the client
[19:24] <leftyfb> ice9: maybe contact jitsi.org support for support with their services? They should be able to tell you which packages are needed
[19:25] <ice9> leftyfb, there is no email or support form, do you know one?
[19:25] <CodeMouse92> ice9: I use Jitsi almost daily. If you just want to join a meeting, you only need the meeting link in your web browser. There's no desktop client.
[19:26] <CodeMouse92> (It's not like Zoom)
[19:26] <sem> try this one? https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=jitsi+server+dependencies&ia=web
[19:26] <CodeMouse92> sem: He wants the client, not the server.
[19:26] <sem> oh
[19:26] <sem> mb
[19:26] <CodeMouse92> And there is no client. It's just the web browser + the meeting link
[19:28]  * ogra bets someone somewhere created an electron app for this 🙂
[19:31] <oerheks> apt-key add is depreciated, for the rest it is simple https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-jitsi-meet-on-ubuntu-20-04
[19:32] <Jong> Should sudo apt-get update always be ran before sudo apt install some_package ?
[19:32] <devslash> yes
[19:32] <oerheks> Jong, yes
[19:32] <oerheks> sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # to be sure
[19:32] <Jong> oerheks  then why not make it a built into the install command?
[19:33] <oerheks> Jong then any apt command would run updates again?
[19:33] <devslash> in some cases, when you do apt install packagename without doing update will say that the package is not found
[19:33] <Jong> oerheks  good point
[19:33] <leftyfb> Jong: you don't need to run update again if you just ran it
[19:33] <Jong> apt-get is awesome
[19:33] <Jong> Other os's could learn a thing or two from ubuntu
[19:33] <oerheks> apt is superiour over apt-get,
[19:33] <leftyfb> oerheks: that is to setup the server, I'm pretty sure ice9 is asking only about the client
[19:34] <oerheks> jitsi-meet is the client i think?
[19:38] <oerheks> new kernel update, brb
[19:44] <sem> There is a jitsi-meet for android that I think is also a client
[19:55] <ice9> i installed jitsi desktop client on 21.10 but it stuck at load forever, any idea?
[19:56] <ice9> throwing this: https://bpa.st/IALQ
[19:56] <leftyfb> ice9: why can't you just use the web client?
[19:56] <sem> try joining it to another meeting?
[19:56] <ice9> leftyfb, i need to use it as SIP client
[19:57] <sarnold> ice9: does the readme or installation instructions or whatever include required libraries?
[19:57] <ice9> sarnold, i installed all libs that it was complaining during the install
[19:58] <sarnold> ice9: how about classpath stuff?
[19:58] <ice9> sarnold, i set the $JAVA_HOME but don't know the classpath of jitsi
[19:58] <leftyfb> ice9: https://community.jitsi.org/
[20:00] <ice9> leftyfb, nothing related there
[20:01] <leftyfb> ice9: that would be the place you go to for support with jitsi meet
[20:12] <nektro> anyone else experience a brick after a recent apt upgrade
[20:13] <nektro> updated last night and now It won't boot
[20:13] <nektro> no lights on keyboard and no signal on hdmi
[20:14] <matsaman> nektro: what happens when you try to turn the computer on?
[20:15] <nektro> power light turns on, fans turn on, nothing else
[20:15] <nektro> as far as I can tell
[20:15] <Guest4bingood> hi there
[20:15] <nektro> spec sheet said hold delete for bios menu and it did nothing
[20:16] <nektro> the screen doesn't turn on so I don't even make it to the manufacturer logo I think
[20:16] <sarnold> double-check all the connections?
[20:16] <matsaman> nektro: so the screen is black, and it never even gets the "brighter black" powered on version of black?
[20:16] <matsaman> what about the power-on indicator light for the monitor?
[20:16] <nektro> right
[20:16] <matsaman> I mean, the simplest explanation there is that your monitor, cables to/from monitor, or graphics device have failed only
[20:17] <leftyfb> nektro: that is a hardware issue, nothing to do with ubuntu or it's updates
[20:17] <nektro> it says no signal and then auto turns off if I try manually refreshing the monitor
[20:17] <matsaman> but it could be something else
[20:17] <nektro> I have a https://simplynuc.com/product/cbm1r5rb/
[20:17] <matsaman> nektro: if you boot a live OS and the monitor works, then you can assume it's your installation
[20:17] <Guest4bingood> i want to install Lubuntu in my 4 ram old laptop which long term version would you advise me to install that wont require upgrades everyone and then??
[20:17] <matsaman> nektro: oh hey not to sidetrack, but does that do CEC?
[20:17] <sarnold> Guest4bingood: is it a 32 bit x86 or a 64bit amd64 processor?
[20:18] <nektro> matsaman: what's cec
[20:18] <leftyfb> nektro: if you can't even get to the POST or BIOS, then this is an issue unrelated to Ubuntu or any other OS (or lack there of) loaded onto the storage device
[20:18] <Guest4bingood> sarnold : its 64bit  gen intel core tm i3-1115g4 3.00ghz
[20:19] <matsaman> nektro: lets you send control commands over HDMI, nevermind =)
[20:19] <Guest4bingood> sarnold 11th generation proccessor
[20:19] <sarnold> Guest4bingood: cool; 20.04 wouldn't be a bad choice. that'll give you a few years before it reaches end of life
[20:19] <matsaman> Guest4bingood: 20.04 is the latest "LTS" release
[20:19] <leftyfb> Guest4bingood: I always recommend the latest LTS release, which is currently Ubuntu 20.04
[20:21] <Guest4bingood> leftyfb : manly i willneed to use it for libreoffice calc because ecxcel is very slow in microsft windows
[20:21] <Guest4bingood> leftyfb ; mainly*
[20:22] <leftyfb> Guest4bingood: ok? Feel free to take same suggestion from 3 individuals on the requested advice above. Good luck
[20:23] <nektro> in the event it was indeed a hardware failure that just so happen to line up right after the update, any recommendations on how I would go about diagnosing this
[20:23] <leftyfb> nektro: try #hardware. Contact your hardware vendor. Google
[20:24] <CodeMouse92> nektro: By the way, do you know what updated in that apt update?
[20:25] <CodeMouse92> Ah...wait, nm, I see above that you can't get to POST or BIOS, so yeah...not related. Nothing managed/updated by apt can affect the BIOS/UEFI that fundamentally.
[20:25] <Guest4bingood> leftyfb,sarnold  : please which link can i get the original iso from for 20.04 lubuntu that will work for my machine specs?
[20:26] <leftyfb> Guest4bingood: ubuntu.com
[20:26] <leftyfb> Guest4bingood: https://ubuntu.com/download/flavours
[20:27] <sarnold> Guest4bingood: it's useful to start from https://ubuntu.com/download -- it'll be a few clicks away from any of the flavours, architectures, etc
[20:27] <nektro> CodeMouse92: not everything but I know linux generic went from 5.11.0.31 to 5.11.0.44
[20:27] <nektro> qemu updated too which is why I ran the update in the first place
[20:27] <CodeMouse92> nektro: I'll PM you, this is probably hardware related.
[20:51] <winircuser-374> Good Afternoon Team! anyone have experience setting up lamp or lemp on Ubuntu 20.04 have a few questions
[20:53] <leftyfb> winircuser-374: you might have better luck in #ubuntu-server
[20:53] <winircuser-374> will do thanks for your help
[21:08] <nshirelaptop> shouldn't chown --reference=referencefile newfile work to clone permissions?
[21:10] <sarnold> heh, I assume nshirelaptop figured out the answer moments after hitting enter..
[21:12] <nshirelaptop> not sure how to clone file permissions from one to another
[21:13] <sarnold> nshirelaptop: irc works best if you stick around for a while :)
[21:13] <sarnold> nshirelaptop: note chmod also has a --reference
[21:14] <nshirelaptop> it would be nice if my connection were to stick around for a while too
[21:14] <nshirelaptop> 15mi microwave links aren't the best
[21:14] <sarnold> ouch :)
[21:15] <sarnold> it might be worth a VM somewhere to run an irc client, hehe
[21:15] <leftyfb> or a bouncer
[21:15] <nshirelaptop> one of the things I've been meaning to get my rpi doing
[21:16] <sarnold> is the rpi on the happy or the sad side of a microwave radio link?
[21:16] <nshirelaptop> "chmod -reference=index.html notch.html      chmod: invalid mode: ‘-reference=index.html’ "
[21:16] <nshirelaptop> happy side with 500/500 fiber
[21:17] <nshirelaptop> wait is the second file the one that the permissions get copied FROM?
[21:17] <tomreyn> --reference not -reference
[21:17] <nektro> from -> to
[21:18] <sarnold> heh, I suggest you also need a better font for your irc client ;)
[21:18] <nshirelaptop> I swear I initially did two hyphens
[21:20] <nshirelaptop> well I guess this problem now moves to nginx support
[21:20] <nshirelaptop> getting 404 despite them having the same perms and ownership and contents
[21:21] <leftyfb> nshirelaptop: try #ubuntu-server
[21:21] <sarnold> nshirelaptop: namei -l on the path may be useful
[21:23] <nshirelaptop> well now I'm really confused. "http://localhost" in address bar shows index.html, but http://localhost/index.html doesn't
[21:23] <nshirelaptop> will have to look into it later
[21:23] <nshirelaptop> I'll leave irc connected this time (hopefully)
[22:01] <marc_> can anyone tell me how i add performance to the power profile in ubuntu
[22:04] <sem> My PC used to only boot with the "noapic" boot option, but now, some 10-15 years later, it can boot without that kernel option. I don't know much about APIC (beyond what I searched)
[22:04] <sem> Why would my PC not have worked with apic before, but now it does
[22:05] <sem> The reason I'm interested is because I get random crashes sometimes (but can't reproduce consistently)
[22:05] <leftyfb> sem: improvements in the linux kernel?
[22:06] <sem> Yeah that's what I was wondering, has the kernel been improving on apic ?
[22:06] <leftyfb> sem: I would hope in 10-15 years improvements have been made
[22:06] <sem> like, if my PC boots at all, probably would not be helped by booting with "noapic" or "nolapic" options
[22:06] <sem> even if that used to be required
[22:07] <marc_> why is unbuntu's power managment so useless
[22:07] <leftyfb> marc_: that isn't a valid support question
[22:08] <marc_> i think it is
[22:09] <marc_> In fact i would go as far to say that this power mangment isnt even fit for purpose
[22:10] <sem> Sanity check: to have the PC remember my last choice in GRUB, I have to have BOTH lines "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved" AND "GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true"
[22:15] <Bashing-om> sem: ACPI issues: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html may be a big help.
 i was about to ask marc_ some questions, like Ubuntu version and hardware. Because some of the profile things are tied to hardware capabilities, I believe. So it's possible that version + kernel + hardware it may not be a profile available
[23:01] <bobdobbs> Hi. When I try to to run 'apt-get upgrade' I get this output as apt fails: http://pastie.org/p/5FIjqpzG9YHc18OXxkEM1v
[23:01] <bobdobbs> How can I fix this error?
[23:03] <bobdobbs> I tried manually deleting the problem file. But that didn't work. I get the same error
[23:03] <leftyfb> bobdobbs: sudo apt clean
[23:03] <bobdobbs> leftyfb: thanks
[23:04] <sarnold> I suggest deleting one or the other of them
[23:04] <Bashing-om> bobdobbs: PPA conflict ? what shows ' apt policy emacs-common ' ?
[23:04] <leftyfb> bobdobbs: looks like you have emacs27-common installed which isn't a supported application. That is causing the problem
[23:04] <leftyfb> it's emacs27-common from the Kevin Kelley PPA
[23:05] <leftyfb> (~kelleyk)
[23:05] <bobdobbs> ok, I tried deleting the file and re-running apt-get update --fix-missing install. I still get the same error
[23:05] <bobdobbs> Yes, I installed emacs27 from a repo. Can't remember which PPA
[23:05] <leftyfb> bobdobbs: sudo apt remove emacs27-common   # though I suggest running ppa-purge ppa:kelleyk/emacs   # which will remove all of the packages installed from ppa:kelleyk/emacs along with the PPA
[23:06] <bobdobbs> but I want to keep emacs27
[23:06] <sarnold> then purge emacs-common
[23:06] <leftyfb> bobdobbs: then contact ppa:kelleyk/emacs for support with the conflicts the package creates
[23:07] <bobdobbs> "apt-get purge emacs-common" also results in the same erro
[23:08] <sarnold> hrm, I had hoped it'd be able to cope with that :/
[23:08] <nshirelaptop2> in case anyone wondered about my nginx permission issue, apparently I assumed it read from the incorrect directory, it actually reads from /var/www/html by default
[23:08] <leftyfb> bobdobbs: the ppa:kelleyk/emacs repo is causing these problems. Remove the repo and the packages you installed from it or continue to have a broken system
[23:09] <bobdobbs> damn. ok. I guess an outdated emacs is better than broken package management
[23:10] <bobdobbs> Kinda sucks, cos I've had to spend most of the last three days configuring emacs
[23:11] <bobdobbs> but no.. "apt-get remove emacs27" also gives the same error!
[23:12] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | bobdobbs
[23:13] <bobdobbs> trouble is... I can't install ppa-purge... because apt won't install anything
[23:14] <Jeremy31> bobdobbs: then find the file that the PPA is listed in and remove the listing
[23:15] <bobdobbs> how do I do that?
[23:16] <Jeremy31> bobdobbs: look in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory
[23:16] <leftyfb> bobdobbs: sudo apt remove --purge emacs27-common 
[23:17] <bobdobbs> leftyfb: apt says it can't find the PPA I installed
[23:17] <bobdobbs> I'm currently searching the sources.list.d directory
[23:18] <leftyfb> bobdobbs: sudo apt remove --purge emacs27-common
[23:19] <sarnold> bobdobbs: the usual way to solve this problem is to add a *bunch* of package names to the apt purge command lines: apt-get purge emacs27-common emacs-common ... chances are good some other package requires those, and will complain, so you add that package to the command and try again
[23:19] <bobdobbs> ok, I found files related to that PPA in the source.list.d directory. Now running "apt-get update"
[23:20] <leftyfb> You still need to purge emacs27-common
[23:21] <roy> hola a tod@s
[23:22] <bobdobbs> sarnold: I can't uninstall or purge anything with apt at the moment. Any 'apt remove' operation fails with message about uninstalled packages. Any attempt to install them results in the error related to emacs
[23:22] <gry> what is the error message
[23:22] <roy> alguna web para aprender comandos ubuntu,
[23:22] <leftyfb> bobdobbs: sudo apt purge emacs*
[23:23] <leftyfb> !es | roy
[23:23] <roy> perfecto..gracias
[23:23] <bobdobbs> gry: http://pastie.org/p/48q4bslh6eowP480oEdZEq
[23:24] <gry> http://pastie.org/p/48q4bslh6eowP480oEdZEq same, raw
[23:24] <blahboybaz> Does the software updater dialogue (gui) call packages something different (treat naming differently) than the output on the cmomand line when you run  $ sudo apt upgrade  ?
[23:24] <gry> i mean, http://pastie.org/p/48q4bslh6eowP480oEdZEq/raw
[23:24] <rfm> the trouble bobdobbs is having is that two packages own the same file, it's not dependency problems, so I think fooling around at the apt level is friutless.  need to use dpkg to remove one of the packages, probably requireing --force=overwrite.
[23:25] <bobdobbs> rfm: how do I do that?
[23:25] <rfm> I haven't had to deal with stuff like this since I quit trying to run Debian unstable ten years ago..
[23:27] <roy> Gracias ubottu, hasta la próxima..
[23:28] <leftyfb> bobdobbs: sudo dpkg -r emacs27-common
[23:29] <rfm> bobdobs, but "sudp dpkg -r --force=overwrite emacs-common" might be it (removing the ubunut emacs-common instead of the ppa emacs27-common since you want that one)
[23:29] <bobdobbs> 'dpkg -r emacs27-common' results in this output: http://pastie.org/p/2hyWI4rqQWNPOVQdfeXNu1
[23:30] <bobdobbs> That's so annoying! "I can't uninstall this package because another package that it needs isn't installed." I guess there's a good reason for this, but it seems pretty paradoxical.
[23:31] <leftyfb> sudo dpkg -r emacs27-common emacs27 emacs-gtk emacs-el emacs-bin-common
[23:32] <bobdobbs> leftyfb: that commands results in this error output: http://pastie.org/p/6IlxSlgz21W3ZWA45NTnk9
[23:33] <leftyfb> sudo dpkg -r emacs*
[23:33] <leftyfb> That PPA caused a big mess. This is why we do not recommend installing packages from PPA
[23:34] <bobdobbs> that command results in this output: http://pastie.org/p/5Y12NjLaHDDajpxrTTIexA
[23:37] <leftyfb> Go back and use the dpkg -r command and list all of the packages listed in your previous pastebin
[23:37] <bobdobbs> ok
[23:38] <bobdobbs> http://pastie.org/p/6jZOf4wtC94AdoWzGmImPx
[23:39] <leftyfb> :/
[23:40] <leftyfb> I didn't say paste the entire output of the error
[23:41] <leftyfb> You need to pick out the individual package names from http://pastie.org/p/6IlxSlgz21W3ZWA45NTnk9 and list them one at a time separated by a space
[23:41] <bobdobbs> oh. sorry
[23:43] <bobdobbs> ok, so 'dpkg -r  emacs-bin-common emacs27-common emacs27 emacs-gtk'
[23:43] <bobdobbs> This results in: http://pastie.org/p/3ma2e6sjMiFrkVE0Ll9LZB
[23:45] <leftyfb> that is not all of the packages listed
[23:45] <sarnold> add elpa-diminish elpa-async emacs emacs-gtk emacs-bin-common and try again
[23:45] <leftyfb> There's more than that
[23:46] <bobdobbs> ah, ok
[23:47] <leftyfb> -nox and -lucid as well
[23:47] <oerheks> sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq <package>
[23:47] <oerheks> A package marked reinst-required is broken and requires reinstallation. These packages cannot be removed, unless forced with option --force-remove-reinstreq.
[23:48] <bobdobbs> http://pastie.org/p/67i8eEPtN55JJ7SmoLX3Uj
[23:48] <bobdobbs> Did I miss some?
[23:49] <bobdobbs> leftyfb: oh sorry. I just saw your last message
[23:50] <bobdobbs> http://pastie.org/p/1ZlKGGwzzoteHmv5VabjmI
[23:50] <leftyfb> add elpa-async
[23:51] <leftyfb> Oh it’s there
[23:51] <bobdobbs> yup
[23:51] <leftyfb> Add elpa-helm-core and elpa-helm
[23:51] <leftyfb> This is what we call dependency hell
[23:51] <bobdobbs> kk
[23:52] <leftyfb> You have to keep going down the rabbit hole until it’s fixed or you come across packages it wants to remove that it shouldn’t
[23:52] <leftyfb> Then you reinstall Ubuntu
[23:52] <bobdobbs> http://pastie.org/p/4B1P9Z2dt2vNl1CILwZ5oS
[23:53] <bobdobbs> leftyfb: yeah, I've been in that position a few times: having to reinstall ubuntu because I broke apt.
[23:53] <bobdobbs> I haven't had to do that in quite a few years now though
[23:54] <sarnold> once you're done with this, don't forget to ask the author of the ppa to put a Conflicts: line in place to prevent this from happening to other people
[23:55] <bobdobbs> sarnold: I'm not entirely sure what that means, but yeah. I'll let him know that *something* caused a major headache
[23:55] <leftyfb> elpa-eproject
[23:55] <bobdobbs> ... and that I needed the help of people in the community who actually understand how apt works
[23:56] <bobdobbs> http://pastie.org/p/6PH1zGbZqIKHhE7e0o7CvO
[23:58] <leftyfb> List elpa-eproject before elpa-helm
[23:58] <leftyfb> Maybe start removing the packages from the list that it says are already installed and the duplicates
[23:59] <leftyfb> Sorry, already uninstalled
[23:59] <bobdobbs> http://pastie.org/p/27OaKhJNsrqnEUEN7l5FjA
[23:59] <bobdobbs> ok