[00:11] <ogra> Rumen, install pavucontrol, that should show you all apps accessing audio
[00:12] <Rumen> thanks installing
[01:43] <marc_> Anyone know of a program that will dispaly core usage while im playing a game so i can see whats being used
[02:07] <Kilroy> something is eating up all my diskspace, /dev/sda2             196G  183G  3.7G  99% / but when I run ncdu -x I get this  Total disk usage:   5.0 GiB  Apparent size:   4.9 GiB  Items: 52299 why don't they add up?
[02:07] <Kilroy> what could be eating up the space
[02:08] <sarnold> the usual culprit is a process still has deleted files open
[02:08] <Kilroy> how do I fix that?
[02:08] <sarnold> try lsof | grep deleted
[02:08] <sarnold> see what that reports
[02:08] <Kilroy> quite a bit
[02:09] <Kilroy> https://sturtz.cf/paste/paste.php?id=7
[02:09] <sarnold> I'm surprised to see just how many firefox like to use. wow
[02:10] <Kilroy> here is a better read format https://sturtz.cf/paste/paste.php?raw&id=7
[02:11] <sarnold> probably if you restart mysqld and rsyslogd, you'll see a lot more free space
[02:11] <Kilroy> yep, restarting the mysql server now
[02:12] <Kilroy> what is the systemd for rsyslogd
[02:12] <sarnold> try rsyslog.service
[02:13] <Kilroy> did not make a dent
[02:13] <sarnold> oh no :(
[02:13] <Kilroy> well a minor one,
[02:13] <Kilroy>  /dev/sda2             196G  180G  6.7G  97% /
[02:14] <sarnold> okay, next guess -- you may have data hiding "underneath" a mount point
[02:14] <Kilroy> found it
[02:14] <sarnold> yay?
[02:15] <Kilroy> yes I have a script that runs the backups and I guess the backups have been going to the backup folder /backup not the backupdrive /backup
[02:15] <sarnold> if that's it, I'd be curious how you found it so quickly ;) the 'best' thing I could think of was to umount the other filesystems...
[02:15] <Kilroy> that was 171 GB
[02:15] <sarnold> yay :D
[02:15] <Kilroy> back down to normal /dev/sda2             196G  5.6G  181G   3% /
[02:15] <sarnold> .. and umounting the other filesystems can sometimes be a real chore, or impossible to do short of a reboot, etc
[02:15] <sarnold> muuuuch better
[02:15] <Kilroy> yea, I forgot to check that
[02:16] <Kilroy> b/c I knew it had done that before and forgot about it until you said "hiding "underneath" a mount point"
[02:16] <Kilroy> so thank you so much for your help sarnold
[02:16] <sarnold> ah nice, that helps a lot :D even knowing where to look first, hehe
[02:17] <Kilroy> oh are there any alternatives to ncdu that you use? I like it and all, just wondering if there is anything else
[02:18] <sarnold> heh, I know what you mean; I like ncdu okay, but wish there were something obviously better available. I'm not sure what exactly I wish were different...
[02:18] <Kilroy> same
[02:20] <sarnold> aha, you reminded me of a list of interesting apps..
[02:20] <sarnold> and this was on it https://github.com/bootandy/dust
[02:21] <sarnold> there's a handy list of a few other similar tools at the bottom of the readme
[02:21]  * Kilroy regrets running du 
[02:37] <Kilroy> ok sarnold another question so I am running ubutu 20.04 server (running server things in the background) and then when I start to load up minetest and play it it flipps the breaker
[02:52] <jhutchins> Kilroy: What breaker?
[02:52] <Kilroy> at my house
[02:53] <jhutchins> What's the breaker capacity?  What else is on the circuit?
[02:54] <Kilroy> nothing else that powerful and I don't know the breakers capacity of the top of my head
[02:54] <Kilroy> it is a 14 year old computer/server
[02:54] <jhutchins> These are important questions.  A PC with peripherals should run fine on a 15A circuit.
[02:55] <jhutchins> Messing with this kind of stuff can have serious consequences, it's important to get the answers right.
[02:55] <Kilroy> I don't know how to check? it is just a typacal US Iowa home breaker
[02:56] <jhutchins> Kilroy: Presumably you know which breaker it is, since you've presumably reset it.  What else gets turned off when it trips?
[02:56] <sarnold> yikes, I thought 'flipped the breaker' was a metaphor for memory consumption or something
[02:57] <Kilroy> I know I know what a breaker is, I just don't know were it says its Amperage, My room (with the server) + lights, bathroom lights, brothers room + radio + lights
[03:00] <leftyfb> Kilroy: completely offtopic here. But that server might be 14yo, but it's probably pulling 5amps when spun up. On top of everything on that circuit, you shouldn't be putting more than 12A continuously on a single 15A circuit.
[03:00] <jhutchins> It's possible you've got too much stuff running on a 10A breaker.  Do you have a surge protector on the computer?
[03:00] <Kilroy> yes I do
[03:00] <Kilroy> that is what I find weird
[03:00] <leftyfb> hm, never thought it might be a 10A
[03:00] <leftyfb> Kilroy: does the breaker say 10 or 15 on it?
[03:00] <Kilroy> let me look
[03:01] <leftyfb> I wouldn't think any competent electrician would use a 10A on anything but a lighting circuit
[03:01] <jhutchins> Having both lights and outlets on the same breaker doesn't meet current code, but old construction and/or do-it-yourself wiring...
[03:02] <Kilroy> nope new build
[03:02] <jhutchins> Kilroy: What's the rating on the surge suppressor?  I assume it's not getting tripped.
[03:02] <Kilroy> says 15 on the switch thing
[03:03] <leftyfb> "surge protectors" don't typically do any good. They're lucky to trip their built in breaker before they fuse together. I wouldn't rely on those to be any sort of protection
[03:04] <Kilroy> ok also the one I got was dirt cheep did not get it for a surge protector got it for the fact that it could turn 2 outlets into 6
[03:04] <leftyfb> Kilroy: that's good. Now to find everything that is dead when that breaker is off. Then do a tally of everything and how much current( or 120 / wattage ) they each pull.
[03:04] <Kilroy> I don't know what the wattage of everything is
[03:05] <leftyfb> Kilroy: a lot of things should tell you wattage (output) on their plug or on the device
[03:05] <jhutchins> Kilroy: Also, try turning everything else off and see if it still trips, then turn things back on one at a time and test.
[03:05] <jhutchins> Kilroy: It _sounds_ like there's a problem with the wiring, but that's probably not something you want to get into yourself.
[03:05] <leftyfb> Kilroy: this is great to find out how much power devices actually pull https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00009MDBU/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_MTPZEEDXK90K5VS7Z2KR
[03:05] <Kilroy> I will have to do that in a bit I need to get it so I can sudo up to turn back on my desktop first
[03:06] <Kilroy> and my brother is trying to fall asleep using his radio but I could do a very rough gusstamite
[03:06] <Kilroy> once I fix my server
[03:06] <jhutchins> Kilroy: Any idea what the power supply is rated for?
[03:07] <jhutchins> It's not an old rack-mount commercial server, is it?
[03:07] <jhutchins> This is not a five minute problem.
[03:07] <Kilroy> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=hp+compaq+6000+pro+
[03:08] <Kilroy> this thing
[03:08] <Kilroy> https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01865797
[03:08] <Kilroy> the PSU says TOTAL 240W MAX.
[03:10] <Kilroy> and <jhutchins> This is not a five minute problem. I know, but I also know that  I can't have someone come out to my house right ow
[03:10] <Kilroy> and <jhutchins> This is not a five minute problem. I know, but I also know that  I can't have someone come out to my house right now
[03:10] <Kilroy> or for a while
[03:11] <jhutchins> Kilroy: Yeah, specs say 320W, but yeah.
[03:12] <jhutchins> Kilroy: There is no way that computer should be able to draw enough to trip a breaker.  Other things should give way first.
[03:12] <jhutchins> Yeah, electricians (ones who know what they're doing at least) aren't cheap.
[03:12] <leftyfb> that's barely 3A. You've either got something(s) else drawing too much on that circuit or bad wiring
[03:13] <jhutchins> How old is the house?  (I wonder if it's old enough to have aluminum wiring.)
[03:13] <Kilroy> I mean this also just started happening, like last week, I also noticed a small white button next to the switch thing
[03:13] <leftyfb> if it's bad wiring, that's a fire hazard. You should get an electrician in there immediately .... if you can't find the other sources of high draw
[03:14] <Kilroy> jhutchins I think 2013
[03:14] <Kilroy> or newer
[03:14] <jhutchins> Unlikely then.
[03:14] <jhutchins> Anybody using a space heater?
[03:15] <jhutchins> Peak load should happen at power-up/boot.
[03:15] <matsaman> plug the computer into another circuit and you'll know whether it's the computer or the circuit
[03:15] <matsaman> honestly, you have bad wiring
[03:16] <Kilroy> yes 2013 is correct and nobody does
[03:16] <jhutchins> Kilroy: Congratulations, you have a genuinely weird problem.
[03:16] <matsaman> I haven't ever seen a single house with proper wiring, ever
[03:16] <Kilroy> https://xkcd.com/1316/
[03:16] <Kilroy> the story of my life
[03:16] <Kilroy> lol
[03:16] <matsaman> for example, just the wiring you mentioned makes no damn sense
[03:16] <Kilroy> what do you mean matsaman
[03:17] <matsaman> your brother's room outlets are on the same circuit as lights for three rooms including a bathroom?
[03:18] <matsaman> unless you have an ancient tiny box, that's a pretty silly combination
[03:18] <matsaman> and just logically, why
[03:18] <Kilroy> yes when the breaker flips all 3 rooms lose power including the hallway
[03:18] <jhutchins> matsaman: It's Iowa.  Libertarian codes & enforcement.
[03:18] <matsaman> you don't have a friend or relative who plays with electrical stuff?
[03:18] <matsaman> jhutchins: heh
[03:18] <Kilroy> nope matsaman
[03:19] <Kilroy> also money is not the issue
[03:19] <matsaman> that's a bummer. Definitely don't screw around with it
[03:19] <matsaman> but it _could_ be something as simple has changing a breaker
[03:19] <jhutchins> matsaman: That's a solution that could be worse than the problem.
[03:19] <matsaman> for sure
[03:19] <jhutchins> matsaman: Penny in the fuse socket.
[03:19] <matsaman> heh
[03:19] <matsaman> haven't seen a real fuse box in a while, except for my neighbor's garage's subpanel
[03:20] <leftyfb> I can't wait till I tear my house down and build a new one. Gonna get a nice big 200A box and make 100% sure every room has at least 2 separate circuits
[03:21] <Kilroy> so, what do I do? I am going to plug it into another circuit friday when I have time
[03:21] <leftyfb> Kilroy: hire an electrician to sort it out
[03:21] <Kilroy> the issue is that I can't
[03:21] <matsaman> leftyfb: for real I can't wait to live in a house that was built properly from scratch
[03:21] <Kilroy> nobody is allowed in our house
[03:21] <matsaman> Kilroy: you guys own the house?
[03:21] <Kilroy> yes
[03:22] <Kilroy> my parents do
[03:22] <matsaman> where're your parents?
[03:22] <leftyfb> Kilroy: what do you mean nobody is allowed in the house? Would you rather the house be burned down?
[03:22] <matsaman> this is the kind of bullshit father figures know about dealing with
[03:22] <Kilroy> why?
[03:22] <matsaman> like, if my father didn't know how to change a breaker, I would fire him
[03:22] <matsaman> maybe I'm biased though, my father is an electrician =P
[03:23] <Kilroy> leftyfb we have had issues with the eletrical before and I told them, that we need to get it looked at but they said that there has not been a issue before so there is not going to be one now
[03:23] <jhutchins> matsaman: Hah.
[03:23] <Kilroy> like the hallway has 3 switches to the same light
[03:23] <jhutchins> Yeah, parental solution is "don't run that game on your computer".
[03:23] <leftyfb> Kilroy: make sure you have some good smoke detectors and a quick and easy fire escape plan
[03:23] <jhutchins> matsaman: I like the bad breaker theory.
[03:24] <matsaman> Kilroy: with the right preparation, research, and tools, you can replace a breaker with relative safety, but it's really best to watch someone do it first while all the ways you can get yourself killed are pointed out
[03:24] <Kilroy> you have to make sure you use the same switch that you turn it on with that switch that you turn it off as other wise it will not turn off
[03:24] <leftyfb> ^ bad wiring
[03:24] <Kilroy> I have told them
[03:24] <Kilroy> they don't beleave me
[03:24] <matsaman> Kilroy: wait what?
[03:24] <matsaman> oh that's just a three way switch
[03:24] <jhutchins> I'm guessing that a professional wiring inspection and tune-up would cost more than a 2006 computer is worth.
[03:25] <matsaman> that's something people do on purpose
[03:25] <Kilroy> no it is 3 up down switches and it did not do that when we first moved in
[03:25] <matsaman> oh okay, then that's really bad wiring, yup =P
[03:25] <matsaman> that you should definitely get fixed
[03:25] <Kilroy> jhutchins we have had our house inspected and both times they said all was good
[03:25] <Kilroy> when we first moved in
[03:25] <matsaman> if switches are changing behavior, you could have some really loose wires and/or unintended contacts
[03:26] <matsaman> Kilroy: by who, a home inspector?
[03:26] <jhutchins> The other way for 3way switches to fail fixes itself the first time you try.
[03:26] <matsaman> they're pretty useless, TBH
[03:26] <matsaman> and that's when they aren't hired by the people who stand to profit the most from you buying the place
[03:26] <Kilroy> and a independent person
[03:26] <matsaman> anyway, home inspectors don't do much with electrical as far as I know
[03:26] <Kilroy> after we bought the home b/c we noticed things that the first guy should of said
[03:26] <matsaman> if they did, 200% of homes wouldn't have terrible electrical
[03:27] <Kilroy> so what should I do?
[03:27] <jhutchins> Yeah, and you can potentially get them to cover repairs, but I'm beting that's not someting your parents want to spend their time and money on./
[03:27] <matsaman> Kilroy: you can't tell your father there is a _real_ electrical problem?
[03:27] <Kilroy> I have
[03:27] <jhutchins> Kilroy: Start with the diagnostics we suggested.  Have a good look at the breaker in question; it WILL be labeled somewhere prominent.
[03:27] <matsaman> well, hate to say it, but maybe it's time to strike out on your own =P
[03:27] <matsaman> if you had a real landlord, they would be obligated to fix it
[03:28] <leftyfb> Kilroy: you need to get an electrician in there, not an inspector. No ifs ands or butts.
[03:28] <Kilroy> leftyfb I have tried, but now I know I won't b/c my mom is high risk
[03:28] <Kilroy> so... there goes that
[03:28] <jhutchins> Well, the alternative is not to load the system.  Some grownups don't appreciate what it's like to be in a powerless position.
[03:28] <leftyfb> lock her in one of the rooms for the hour the electrician is there
[03:28] <matsaman> well
[03:28] <leftyfb> and everyone mask up
[03:29] <matsaman> changing behavior is more dangerous than just a breaker tripping
[03:29] <leftyfb> maybe open some windows while the electrician is there
[03:29] <matsaman> you need to at the very least not use those switches whose behavior has changed; if you know the breaker for that, turning it off would be safest
[03:29] <jhutchins> leftyfb: Do you own your home?
[03:29] <leftyfb> jhutchins: I do
[03:29] <matsaman> for the computer thing, if you put it on another circuit, that will give you a better idea if it's just the breaker that needs replacing
[03:30] <Kilroy> I need some way to tell my parents that this is serious is there something (like a demo) I can do that will show plain and clear that this is not a joke and needs to be fixed ASAP
[03:30] <matsaman> Kilroy: oh okay
[03:30] <matsaman> Kilroy: let me find you the stats on how many houses burn to the ground specifically from bad electrical
[03:30] <Kilroy> something that I can show in my house
[03:30] <leftyfb> Kilroy: hire your own electrician and have them come and look at things when they aren't around. Have the electrician tell your parents there's an issue
[03:31] <matsaman> Kilroy: a tripped breaker is that
[03:31] <matsaman> it's a safety feature, it's the whole purpose of the breaker
[03:31] <matsaman> to disable power
[03:31] <jhutchins> Scorch/burn marks under the face plates are usually convincing.  You might want to turn the breaker off before you pull the plates and look.
[03:31] <Kilroy> face plates of what?
[03:31] <matsaman> of a switch or outlet box
[03:31] <jhutchins> Kilroy: Switches & outlets.
[03:31] <Kilroy> ok
[03:32] <matsaman> don't though =P
[03:32] <jhutchins> matsaman: ?
[03:32] <leftyfb> Kilroy: either way, this is completely offtopic here. I hate to give you the bad news, but it's better than you ignoring it. We can't help beyond telling you to get a licensed electrician in there to diagnose further. Make sure to tell/show the electrician the issues you have come across
[03:33] <Kilroy> ok thanks for your helps
[03:33] <jhutchins> Kilroy: You can still try the tests we suggested, they're not hazardous.
[03:33] <Kilroy> ok, I will
[03:33] <matsaman> don't get electrocuted bro =)
[03:34] <Kilroy> I don't plan on it
[03:34] <jhutchins> Kilroy: Only touch one thing at a time.
[03:36] <jhutchins> Ouch, there went an hour.
[03:36] <jhutchins> Kilroy: Feel free to DM if you have questions, I'll get back to you when I see it.
[03:36] <Kilroy> ok, thank you jhutchins
[03:37] <matsaman> you can probably get an electrician to come in for slim-to-nothing and tell you if it might be just the breaker needs replacing (for the computer thing), which should be relatively affordable in parts in labor
[03:37] <matsaman> the other light switch thing is less good =P
[03:38] <matsaman> unless it's just an overcomplicated 3-way setup, which it could still be <shrug>
[03:39] <matsaman> there's strange and then there's dangerous
[03:46] <Kilroy> I find it weird how again when we moved in it was working fine, you could every swich would turn it off no matter where you turned it on, oh I forgot the living room (two switches one light) started doing the same thing
[03:46] <Kilroy> and when that started happning I told my dad that he should get someone out here, and he said that it is fine
[03:47] <leftyfb> Kilroy: offtopic. get an electrician in there
[03:49] <jhutchins> Sounds like there could be bad connections.
[03:49] <jhutchins> (Bad connections = heat = fire danger.
[03:51] <matsaman> electricians aren't cheap, but it's not like buying a car
[03:51] <matsaman> and honestly, it's somewhat dangerous and incredibly grueling work, they earn it
[03:51] <matsaman> (somewhat dangerous to them, experts)
[04:37] <Fieldy> hello, is there a way to search non-installed software for a specific file that it would provide?
[04:37] <JackFrost> `apt-file find`
[04:38] <Fieldy> sweet
[04:39] <JackFrost> apt-file is very cool, yes.  It has 'find' and 'list', both should help you a lot.
[05:00] <matsaman> essential tool
[06:04] <adan> hello all
[06:05] <matsaman> hi
[07:10] <amosbird> Hello! Is there any way to avoid ld-linux to look at /etc/ld.so.preload via some ENV?
[08:37] <Coco92> Hello, i installed snapper for timeline snapshots and now i see ubuntu creates pre post snapshots by default after installation, how is it possible to disable pre post snapshots?
[08:41] <KBar> Coco92: http://snapper.io/faq.html
[08:42] <Coco92> KBar random guides that doesn't help?
[08:42] <Coco92> the pre post snapshots are created by the ubuntu system or config, i never see this after i install vanilla snapper in ohter distribution
[08:44] <KBar> Coco92: ? its not a random guide. It's their official website
[08:45] <Coco92> KBar, and it doesn't help me cause i don't know where the pre post snapshots are configured in ubuntu. That is why i ask here and not in btrfs or snapper channel ;-)
[08:45] <KBar> Coco92: look inside the contents in /etc/snapper
[08:46] <Coco92> in this content my created configs are there, and they don't enable pre post automatic snapshots
[08:46] <KBar> Coco92: if you're so smart, RTFM :)
[08:46] <KBar> Coco92: man snapper
[08:46] <Coco92> if i do the config in arch the system don't enable automatic snapshots
[08:46] <Coco92> it looks like it is builded in apt config?
[08:46] <Coco92> i read the snapper manpage
[08:47] <KBar> What you do in Arch is irrelevant here.
[08:47] <Coco92> KBar, i only say that my problem is ubuntu relevant in config file and not per se in snapper
[08:47] <Coco92> a guid for vanilla snapper doesn't help then, i need a ubuntu specific guide
[08:48] <KBar> Coco92: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/80snapper
[08:48] <KBar> Coco92: literall in the manpage.
[08:48] <Coco92> not in the manpage for snapper itself
[08:48] <KBar> Coco92: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[08:48] <KBar> What version of snapper?
[08:48] <KBar> Where did you get the package?
[08:48] <Coco92> from impish repository
[08:50] <KBar> Coco92: this was enabled upstream https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=770938
[08:51] <Coco92> Okay so it is a config file that comes with apt and not from snapper, that's why i couldn't find it in the snapper documentation ^^
[08:52] <KBar> Coco92: no. It doesn't come with apt
[08:52] <Coco92> the apt.conf.d/80snapper ?
[08:52] <KBar> Coco92: https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/amd64/snapper/filelist
[08:52] <KBar> Coco92: that file is included in the snapper package
[08:52] <KBar> Coco92: and there is a changelog
[08:53] <KBar> *entry in the changelog
[08:53] <Coco92> then this file is exclusive shipped from snapper for ubuntu or debian systems?
[08:53] <KBar> Coco92: you can run `dpkg -L snapper` to see the list
[08:53] <KBar> of files included in its package
[08:55] <Coco92> Thanks KBar this helped me. If i change this config now and give an update of snapper, will it be overwritten again?
[09:06] <KBar> Coco92: just copy that file and name it with a higher number which will increase its priority
[09:07] <KBar> Coco92: something like 99snapper
[09:07] <Coco92> Thanks
[09:08] <Gallomimia> seems i have broken firefox. won't load any pages, and runs at least 100% cpu all the time, even with no windows other than Downloads open.
[09:09] <Gallomimia> oh. even with no windows open at all
[09:09] <Gallomimia> error says to reboot
[09:10] <KBar> Gallomimia: what's the output of `lsb_release -ds` and `firefox --version`?
[09:10] <bcb> i'm getting an error on upgrade:  installed linux-image-5.4.0-94-generic package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[09:10] <Nobrem> hi
[09:10] <Nobrem> has anyone here ever used Android Studio on Ubuntu?
[09:10] <Nobrem> Is it possible, that there is a dropdown missing with my device ?
[09:11] <bcb> Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS
[09:11] <Nobrem> I have never done it before, so I am not sure where to look
[09:11] <Nobrem> But somebody in #briar wants me to send him logs of my errors
[09:11] <Gallomimia> Ubuntu 21.10
[09:11] <Gallomimia> root@draco-lambda:~# firefox --version
[09:11] <Gallomimia> mkdir: cannot create directory '/run/user/0': Permission denied
[09:11] <Gallomimia> Mozilla Firefox 96.0
[09:11] <Nobrem> and for that, I must connect my android device to the Linux Laptop and chose the Android Phone via a dropdown in Android Studio
[09:11] <Nobrem> but there is simply no such phone
[09:12] <KBar> Gallomimia next time paste the output to pastebin.com . why are you trying to create a directory in /run/user/?
[09:12] <Gallomimia> i did not.
[09:12] <Gallomimia> that was part of the output you asked for
[09:13] <Gallomimia> it was short enough to not really need a paste. i'm going to reboot, as there was some updates to systemd. perhaps they'll fix
[09:13] <FrankFrink> Hello :)
[09:14] <KBar> Nobrem perhaps a better place to ask is #android
[09:14] <FrankFrink> I got a problem with ubuntu 20.04 not beein able to update
[09:14] <KBar> Nobrem Android Studio is the same on every platform AFAIR
[09:14] <Nobrem> ok KBar
[09:15] <KBar> FrankFrink: hello and welcome. What kind of a problem? Does it print out any errors?
[09:15] <FrankFrink> i cant do a release upgrade cause it says :Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading. and i cant update all packages cause... The repository 'http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy Release' no longer has a Release file.
[09:15] <FrankFrink> im stuck in a loop
[09:15] <KBar> Gallomimia: you'll get autobanned next time. the bot is not smart and wont care about your logic: if you paste too many lines consecutively, he'll be mad
[09:16] <FrankFrink> i think i missed out on some updates, and then iut was to late.
[09:16] <FrankFrink> can i manually add new soiurces to sources.list and upgrade from there?
[09:17] <KBar> FrankFrink: so you upgraded from 20.04 to 20.10? what's the current version of your Ubuntu rn? `lsb_release -ds`?
[09:17] <FrankFrink> no, i didnt
[09:17] <FrankFrink> mhm, ok, i did :)
[09:17] <KBar> yeah..
[09:17] <FrankFrink> cat /etc/issue
[09:17] <FrankFrink> Ubuntu 20.10 \n \l
[09:17] <Gallomimia> there's a reason i didn't copy 5 lines which included the first command you said to type kbar
[09:18] <Gallomimia> anyway... the problem i was having seems to have resolved itself
[09:19] <Gallomimia> with the apt dist-upgrade i performed prior to doing those commands. i imagine that error was from running the firefox command as root
[09:20] <KBar> FrankFrink: did it update any packages?
[09:20] <FrankFrink> no
[09:21] <FrankFrink> Ign:1 http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy InRelease Err:2 http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy Release   404  Not Found [IP: 83.164.133.196 80]
[09:21] <KBar> FrankFrink: is it a desktop or a server?
[09:21] <FrankFrink> with every line
[09:21] <FrankFrink> desktop
[09:21] <Gallomimia> uh... seems like you've got it set to a mirror which is not so good
[09:21] <FrankFrink> ahaa
[09:21] <FrankFrink> what?
[09:22] <KBar> It shouldn't matter. most if not all mirrors are up to date
[09:22] <FrankFrink> ok, i cahnge to another mirror
[09:22] <KBar> and synced
[09:22] <Gallomimia> yeah, they aren't.
[09:22] <FrankFrink> ok, one moment. ill try
[09:22] <KBar> Gallomimia: got any facts?
[09:22] <Gallomimia> i tried one that was closer to me when i first installed and got the same error
[09:22] <KBar> Ah, so one anecdote
[09:22] <KBar> ok
[09:23] <FrankFrink> btw. i nevewr have had any problem with the mirrors in the last 20 years using debian, and then ubuntu:)  so thats new to me
[09:23] <Gallomimia> do you have some other explaination for a 404 error on apt update?
[09:24] <FrankFrink> ]Ign:8 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy InRelease
[09:24] <FrankFrink> Err:9 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy Release
[09:24] <FrankFrink>   404  Not Found [IP: 141.30.62.23 80]
[09:24] <FrankFrink> chnaged it to the german mirror site. same
[09:24] <FrankFrink> sources.list line: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ groovy main restricted
[09:24] <FrankFrink> (example)
[09:26] <FrankFrink> with a webbrowser i can easily download http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/Release
[09:27] <KBar> FrankFrink: can you post the full content of sources.list on pastebin?
[09:27] <FrankFrink> can do. one sec.
[09:27] <KBar> FrankFrink: also, any PPAs?
[09:28] <FrankFrink> https://pastebin.com/LiKHT9ZA
[09:29] <KBar> FrankFrink: anything in sources.list.d?
[09:30] <FrankFrink> no
[09:31] <KBar> FrankFrink: hmm. do you really need source packages? i dont think it should interfere, but try commenting out deb-src lines
[09:31] <FrankFrink> also, if so, it wouldnt affect the ubuntus release file no beeing able to be fetched id assume
[09:31] <FrankFrink> yes i really need source packages. and no id will not help to remove them so i dont :)
[09:31] <FrankFrink> please no reboot, wait 5 minutes advice :)
[09:34] <Gallomimia> damnit. there's a thousand lines in this manual but it won't tell me how to reverse the sort order in top
[09:34] <KBar> FrankFrink: yeah you can manually set them to hirsute/impish but thats a bit tricky/risky.
[09:34] <FrankFrink> gallomina: type ? while in top tro see options
[09:35] <Gallomimia> yeah it's not there either, unless i'm blind
[09:35] <KBar> FrankFrink: better to just wait til april
[09:35] <KBar> and reinstall the new lts
[09:37] <FrankFrink> mhm, ok not an option. then ill try to mess a bit around. packagemanagement is allready broken here. if nothing works out ill reinstall.
[09:37] <KBar> FrankFrink: unplug your computer from the power sources, wait 5 mins and turn it on again
[09:38] <FrankFrink> kbar: :)
[09:38] <Gallomimia> shift R. ah finally
[09:40] <FrankFrink> back in the days of debian. when a dist-upgrade had to be done, one just changed the spources list and did an apt-get distupgrade
[09:41] <FrankFrink> may someone post me a sources.list for a 20.10 ubuntu
[09:41] <Gallomimia> probably wise of you frank, i have never once trusted the do-release-upgrade function
[09:43] <FrankFrink> ok, it aint the sources.list:)  the problem is somewhere else, mayebe some authentification stuff or something. ill strace into thant
[10:24] <jayratio> hi
[10:27] <jayratio> I am a newbie can someone please guide me how to share folders on second hard drive in ubuntu to be accessible from windows 7
[10:27] <ubuntuliveGuest6> hello!
[10:28] <ubuntuliveGuest6> I have started my latop from ubunutu life usb. have been using it and opened many tabs in firefox, now it froze
[10:28] <ubuntuliveGuest6> question: Is there a way, I can force gnome to restart and thus unfreeze?
[10:29] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: that will end your current Live session. What version of Ubuntu are/were you running?
[10:29] <ubuntuliveGuest6> I know I could simply restart, but then I'd lose some files I have been working with, since I had not saved them yet to an eyternal medium
[10:29] <ubuntuliveGuest6> the stick is a bit old. it is ubuntu 20/10
[10:30] <ubuntuliveGuest6> it will end the session but the OS will still bne running and I can relogin and access the files
[10:30] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: is it a total freeze? Unresponsive input?
[10:30] <ubuntuliveGuest6> I once ran sudo service gdm restart and i could log in a gain and everything was there.
[10:30] <ubuntuliveGuest6> but now I cant
[10:31] <ubuntuliveGuest6> yes, total freeze. mouse not moving, a youtube video is on a 2 second eternal audio loop driving me crazy , lol
[10:31] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: run `loginctl list-sessions` and then `loginctl kill-session SESSION_NAME`
[10:31] <ubuntuliveGuest6> I tried ctrl alt f5 for tty, but not reacting
[10:32] <ubuntuliveGuest6> I  cannot acess any terminal
[10:32] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: Alt+PrtSc+F
[10:32] <ubuntuliveGuest6> I tried fn+ctrl+alt+sys+F to kill but I guess that key combination was disabled in ubuntu
[10:32] <Nobrem> re
[10:33] <Nobrem> The #android channel is totally dead,  please,  does anyone here use "Android Studio" ??
[10:33] <ubuntuliveGuest6> ok, alt+PrtScr+F no effect.
[10:33] <ubuntuliveGuest6> also tried alt+f then r then enter
[10:34] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: yeah, that looks unrecoverable
[10:34] <ubuntuliveGuest6> :(
[10:35] <KBar> jayratio:  hello and welcome. Sorry, I'm not familiar with the subject but did you try this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/nautilus-connect.html.en
[10:35] <ubuntuliveGuest6> i often use live usb. is there a way to prevent it from freezing?
[10:35] <ubuntuliveGuest6> normally sysload is then around 100
[10:36] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: it looks like a faulty USB drive or lack of RAM.
[10:36] <jayratio> ok will check
[10:36] <ubuntuliveGuest6> and kswap0d is eating a lot of cpu, though swap is disabled
[10:37] <ubuntuliveGuest6> yes, only happens when many tabs open, but I am a notorious tab opener
[10:37] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: you can try booting up Ubuntu with a lighter DE, i.e. Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[10:37] <ubuntuliveGuest6> but why would a swap service eat cpu is not swap is even present?
[10:37] <ubuntuliveGuest6> and why no oom killer?
[10:37] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: there you have it. You answered your own question: i often use live usb. is there a way to prevent it from freezing? -- try not to open many tabs
[10:38] <ubuntuliveGuest6> I would expect that when ff requests more ram than available, it would either not get it and simpkly wait, or be killed - intead of freezing up the entiere system
[10:39] <ubuntuliveGuest6> how many open tabs does ubuntu support on a 8GB laptop?
[10:39] <ubuntuliveGuest6> So that I always only open n-1
[10:39] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: probably because kernel.sysrq is set to something like 176
[10:40] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: 8GB laptop << is that RAM you're talking about?
[10:40] <ubuntuliveGuest6> yes
[10:41] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: how many open tabs does ubuntu support on a 8GB laptop? << i don't think there's a precise number. and even if there was, ubuntu would be all the way down the list of factors
[10:41] <ubuntuliveGuest6> and there is no other key comnbo that forcefully kills gnome session or even Xserver and lets me logint to tty?
[10:42] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: there probably is. I usually oom and never had a frozen live session. There was something like Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[10:42] <ubuntuliveGuest6> still, i think, ideally, a system should never get unresponsive at all, no matter what the user does. never see something like that on Windows
[10:42] <ubuntuliveGuest6> ok, I'll try that one too, thx
[10:43] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: live sessions run on X, IIRC. so maybe you can invoke such a key combination. there is probably an answer somewhere on the internet
[10:43] <KBar> ubuntuliveGuest6: feel free to voice your suggestions in #ubuntu-discuss
[10:44] <ubuntuliveGuest6> I'll keep googleing then. Thank you
[11:07] <Guest69> Hey guys, I'm looking at this FDE on Ubuntu 20.04 guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019) and I'm trying to figure out why the author would create a GPT partition and then use sgdisk to create a hybrid MBR (sgdisk --hybrid 1:2:3 $DEV). I looked around and I can't really find a good reason that it exists and the
[11:07] <Guest69> author did not elaborate on this further. So, I guess I'm here to try and understand why someone might include this. What's the point of it?
[11:14] <cbreak> Guest69: maybe the author has ancient legacy hardware?
[11:15] <Guest69> Maybe, but the hardware does support UEFI and GPT. So I
[11:15] <Guest69> Oops. I'm guessing it's not that ancient.
[11:16] <tomreyn> I would rather guess the purpose is to gain greater compatibility at no additional cost.
[11:17] <Guest69> Does this also mean that partitions 1,2, and 3 are MBR while partition 5 is GPT?
[11:19] <tomreyn> i think it means that a system which only understands MBR could still handle partitions one to three, while a system understanding UEFI would be able to handle all partitions.
[11:19] <tomreyn> plus you could boot with either system if the respective boot manager is installed.
[11:20] <Guest69> I think that makes sense and seems to be kinda useful, although I don't believe I'll ever deal with legacy hardware :P
[11:21] <tomreyn> so you can save 2 MB by not hving the EF02 grub bios boot partition
[11:22] <Guest69> I feel a bit more confident about the guide now, so I guess I'll continue on and try it. The real hard part, however, is going to be including a few other encrypted PVs into the VG and using only 1 password to unlock everything. :D
[11:22] <Guest69> Yeah, I have about 6TB of space to work with, so I don't think I'll ever miss those 2MB
[11:24] <Guest69> Thanks for the help :)  I'll let you know if it worked, if you're interested.
[11:25] <tomreyn> "a few other encrypted PVs" probably means you will have multiple LUKS (?) encrypted storages, each of which will need to be encrypted and decrypted seperately.
[11:26] <Guest69> Yeah, but I think I can set one password and then use keyfiles for the rest and chain them in /etc/crypttab
[11:26] <tomreyn> you can do that
[11:27] <Guest69> This is just an assumption that I'm testing now, though :O  I'm curious to see how far I can go with luks and lvm
[11:28] <lotus|clevo> #lotuscomputers
[11:43] <AakashPawar> Hello
[11:46] <masber> hi, I am trying to install latest version of virtualbox into my ubuntu 20.04, I have downloaded the .dev file but when I try to open it, ubuntu seems to try to install it using "ubuntu software" which keep spinning like not knowing what to do
[11:47] <masber> any way to fix ubuntu software or to install my .dev file in a different way?
[13:04] <supercool> I am trying to run a server on a remote server with ubuntu server installed from port 8080 and I am getting a connection refuse error message
[13:04] <supercool> I did open port 8080 using the command uft allow 8080
[13:07] <supercool> But it still failing, could someone help me please?
[13:10] <cbreak> supercool: does something listen on that port? lsof -i -nP
[13:12] <supercool> cbreak: I was with ufw disabled, now I enabled it
[13:12] <supercool> But still
[13:12] <supercool> cbreak: let me check
[13:15] <supercool> cbreak: no, no services connected to that port using that command even with the server running
[13:15] <supercool> Do you think I should restart the server?
[13:17] <supercool> But if I use netstat with grep for that port it shows LISTEN
[13:44] <MrCollinsGA> is wall an active terminal command in ubuntu? I cant see any messages when I use that
[14:03] <tomreyn> MrCollinsGA: wall lets users send commands to other (text) terminals if those allowed it using the "mesg" command
[14:04] <MrCollinsGA> tomreyn, can wall be put in a bash script ie wall "script.foo has been executed" or what have you
[14:04] <tomreyn> also very old but sometimes more useful for multi-user systems where people actually work on terminals only is talkd
[14:05] <MrCollinsGA> thank you tomreyn
[14:05] <tomreyn> MrCollinsGA: sure, i don't see why not. maybe you're having wrong expectations about what it does, though. what's your goal, how is this system used?
[14:06] <tomreyn> for example, do not expect 'wall' messages to show up in graphical user interfaces
[14:06] <MrCollinsGA> tomreyn, well, I am ssh in the machine via terminal and sometimes a script will run (I want it to run) I would like to be notified if I am typing away at another issue. NO gui loaded.
[14:07] <MrCollinsGA> tomreyn, a script might run on when told to by cron for instance.
[14:08] <tomreyn> it might be useful then, but note that those messages can also get in yourway, i.e. if you're editing some file and a wall message comes up, that can be annoying since it would overwrite the editor screen.
[14:08] <MrCollinsGA> tomreyn, fair enough! :) thank you!
[14:08] <tomreyn> the less direct approach to messaging is email
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:08] <tomreyn> with users receiving a notification on stdout when they received a new one
[14:09] <MrCollinsGA> ok!
[14:09] <tomreyn> i.e. the "You have mail." message, you've probably seen that before.
[14:59] <MrCollinsGA> tomreyn, how about a command in bash that I can put in the file 'wait until this job is done until moving to the next line or job'
[14:59] <Jeremy31> &&
[15:00] <MrCollinsGA> Jeremy31 ok let me try that.
[15:01] <leftyfb> MrCollinsGA: I gave you exactly that 2 days ago
[15:01] <MrCollinsGA> leftyfb, if I remembered it, why would I ask again? :)
[15:01] <MrCollinsGA> You forget I am a moron! :)
[15:31] <oerheks> dnsproxy ánd tor.. dns-tor-proxy ?
[15:32] <leftyfb> oerheks: ?
[15:32] <oerheks> mis paste, sorry
[15:36] <zetheroo> I need help with something which ultimately may or may not be an Ubuntu problem. Any help is appreciated. I am troubleshooting a problem with ESET Endpoint on Linux and OpenSSL on Ubuntu 20.04. Basically there is this message in the syslog is: ESET Endpoint Antivirus Error: Cannot init openssl library
[15:37] <amazoniantoad> Can I ask a xen question in here? It might possibly be some kind of ubuntu-related problem
[15:37] <amazoniantoad> I know, don't ask to ask
[15:38] <oerheks> zetheroo, https://support.eset.com/en/kb3584-i-receive-the-error-message-cannot-init-openssl-library-when-installing-eset-filemailgateway-security-for-linux they want you to install 2 packages
[15:39] <zetheroo> oerheks: thanks, they are already installed
[15:39] <oerheks> and " it is necessary to have both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of OpenSSL installed "
[15:39] <zetheroo> I'm not sure how to dig more info out about the problem
[15:40] <zetheroo> oerheks: hmmm ok
[15:41] <zetheroo> how do I know which version is installed?
[15:45] <WaV> dpkg -l <package> | It will either say amd64 or i386. Or, in the case of having both installed, there will be two lines (1 of each).
[15:45] <zetheroo> ii  openssl        1.1.1f-1ubuntu2.10 amd64        Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - cryptographic utility
[15:46] <zetheroo> ok, so it's the x64 version
[15:46] <zetheroo> How does one install the 32bit version?
[15:46] <WaV> yea so according to what oerheks said, you need the i386 version, which I couldn't tell you how to do to be frank. Maybe he can.
[15:47] <ogra> sudo apt install openssl:i386 should work
[15:47] <oerheks> yes
[15:47] <oerheks> no need to add archtecture
[15:48] <zetheroo> oops https://pastebin.com/raw/9RV9Ldsz
[15:49] <ogra> so try to add that to your line: sudo apt install openssl:i386 libssl1.1:i386
[15:50] <zetheroo> https://pastebin.com/raw/5a6EfX9s
[15:52] <ogra> zetheroo, that looks like you already had something messed up before
[15:52] <zetheroo> ogra: would not surprise me. I don't know what the user has done all on this PC.
[15:53] <zetheroo> I'm remotely connected via SSH over a VPN connection .. so my access is somewhat limited.
[15:56] <zetheroo> could it be because the user installed another GUI/Desktop?
[15:57] <zetheroo> and this caused the removal of a host of packages, including the 32bit openssl ... ?
[15:58] <zetheroo> because this was working when the PC was initially setup and handed over.
[16:01] <zetheroo> it seems to me that libqt5gui5 is installed in Ubuntu 20.04 by default.
[16:06] <zetheroo> Interestingly, on my own PC (also running Ubuntu 20.04) I only have openssl 64bit installed, and ESET is running fine.
[16:09] <zetheroo> Also, when I try to install openssl:i386 I am told that the package openssl will be removed. So apparently you cannot have both versions installed at the same time?!
[16:16] <tomreyn> zetheroo: you should probably seek vendor support at this time, since this software is not part of ubuntu and the error message seems to be misleading
[16:17] <zetheroo>  tomreyn: yeah, doing that now. 👍
[17:20] <frasson> Hi. I have a quite old computer with 4Gb RAM: 2 DDR2 2Gb cards. I installed a 3rd card, but it didn't increase available memory. Any help?
[17:21] <jhutchins> frasson: Most PCs these days require RAM to be installed two slots at a time.
[17:22] <jhutchins> They don't have to match the existing DIMM's specs, they can be slower or faster, but they have to match each other.
[17:23] <leftyfb> 32bit computers were also limited to 4G of memory
[17:27] <jhutchins> leftyfb: PAE.
[17:28] <leftyfb> only if they're running a PAE kernel
[17:28] <leftyfb> they have to mention even running ubuntu or what version
[17:28] <jhutchins> That would be a software limit, not a hardware limit.
[17:29] <leftyfb> yup, they didn't mention where they determined if the memory increased or not
[17:59] <frasson> jhutchins: thanks. I will try to get another mem card to pair. Thanks
[18:01] <frasson> leftyfb, it is a dual core Intel processor. Pastebin for lscpu:
[18:01] <frasson> https://pastebin.com/m3Qz9rQc
[18:02] <frasson> I think (but not sure) I could handle more than 4gb ram. But indeed there are 3 memory cards sticked
[18:02] <leftyfb> frasson: it's best to look up he documentation for your hardware
[18:03] <leftyfb> frasson: look in the BIOS to see how much memory is detected there. This more than likely has nothing to do with the OS on your machine
[18:03] <frasson> BIOS says it hass 6Gb memory
[18:03] <frasson> but "free" says only 4gb
[18:04] <leftyfb> frasson: is there memory shard for video in the BIOS?
[18:04] <leftyfb> shared*
[18:05] <leftyfb> frasson: also: uname -a
[18:05] <frasson> there is a separated video card... That is what I can say. I actually don't know about video memory
[18:06] <frasson> The CPU case is open. I can look, but I am rather newbie on hardware
[18:06] <frasson> output for uname -a:
[18:06] <frasson> Linux sme-frasson-lesma 5.11.0-46-generic #51~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 7 06:51:40 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:08] <leftyfb> frasson: having the cover open on your chassis has nothing to do with the BIOS being configured to share memory with an onboard video chipset, regardless if you have another dedicated GPU card
[18:09] <frasson> leftyfb: I see.
[18:11] <frasson> before this chat I entered BIOS and looked into every tab for memory. It says little, said that there were available 6gb, I didn't looked into shared memory. It could be
[18:12] <frasson> If I could diagnose this with command line it could be better. I don't have now another machine to keep chat and look into this PC BIOS
[19:43]  * mwsd82 is away: Time to eat something, see you!
[20:07] <mannequin> why is 5.13 the main kernel in 20.04? it's EOL
[20:08] <Maik> it's the HWE kernel which is used in 21.10
[20:08] <Maik> but afaik 20.04 officially still runs on kernel 5.11
[20:09] <leftyfb> the HWE kernel in 20.04 is 5.11, not 5.13
[20:09] <Maik> ah right
[20:09] <leftyfb> The linux-image-generic is 5.4.0.94.98
[20:10] <Maik> 5.11.0-46-generic #51~20.04.1-Ubuntu
[20:10] <jmiahjones3> I believe next month 20.04 will update to 5.13 though
[20:10] <Maik> mannequin: ^
[20:10] <mannequin> it already updatted at my end
[20:10] <Maik> then you did  that manually
[20:11] <leftyfb> at the moment, 5.13 is available, but I'm pretty sure nothing will install that automatically. It needs to be done manually
[20:11] <Maik> installing the 5.13 kernel that is
[20:11] <loganchris898> 👋
[20:12] <Maik> leftyfb: i bet mannequin did just that
[20:14] <oerheks> hwe-edge probably, you should mention that mannequin
[20:14] <mannequin> huh?
[20:15] <leftyfb> yup, -edge is on 5.13
[20:15] <mannequin> what is hwe-edge?
[20:15] <leftyfb> mannequin: you either installed 5.13 directly or through the linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04-edge package
[20:15] <leftyfb> mannequin: 5.13 does not get automatically installed in any other way
[20:16] <mannequin> i did install 5.13 by had but then removed it
[20:16] <leftyfb> mannequin: either way, either of those methods should only be done if you know what you are doing and how to manage kernels including when they go EOL
[20:16] <mannequin> some time after ubuntu decided to fetch 5.13 with apt
[20:17] <leftyfb> mannequin: then you didn't remove it properly
[20:17] <mannequin> i did remove it proprerly
[20:17] <Maik> if so then ubuntu can't install it for you automatically
[20:17] <oerheks> how do you tell 5.13 is EOL ?
[20:17] <mannequin> kernel.org
[20:17] <leftyfb> mannequin: do you need help removing 5.13 properly?
[20:18] <mannequin> no
[20:18] <mannequin> i'm ok with 5.13
[20:18] <mannequin> because my wifi works properly
[20:18] <mannequin> and 5.14 does not boot at all
[20:18] <Maik> then why are you complaining....
[20:18] <mannequin> waiting for newer kernels
[20:18] <leftyfb> mannequin: this is a support channel. Please keep it to asking for help and not complaints
[20:19] <mannequin> i'm sorry you think i'm complaining
[20:25] <jmiahjones3> mannequin: The Ubuntu kernel is supported through the lifecycle even if upstream is EOL.
[20:26] <jmiahjones3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ#Kernel.2FFAQ.2FGeneralUbuntuDelta.What_differentiates_the_Ubuntu_Kernel_from_the_upstream_Linux_Kernel.3F
[20:26] <leftyfb> mannequin: you should really just stick with the hwe kernel
[20:27] <leftyfb> unless you know what you are doing and how to remove kernels you don't want
[20:30] <Jeremy31> Ubuntu 5.13 kernel is supported until late July
[20:56] <mannequin> ok
[21:17] <axsuul> Do you guys have an idea of when we should expect 20.04 to have a new kernel update via linux-generic-hwe-20.04?
[21:19] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/kernel/lifecycle#support-20-04 gives a clue
[21:19] <oerheks> with .5 you might get the 22.04 kernel ?
[21:20] <jmiahjones3> I expect next month sometime based on the calendar. https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[21:21] <jmiahjones3> Ah yes oerheks has the better link
[22:31] <gneeriiloeepdeer> apparently I have copied a defective epub file in the clipboard and now my computer has 0 MiB of free space left, meaning I cannot run word and if I reboot the system it will lock me out of it (no free space). How do I solve this?
[22:32] <gneeriiloeepdeer> the defective epub is 127 MiB in size
[22:34] <leftyfb> gneeriiloeepdeer: free up some disk space
[22:35] <leftyfb> gneeriiloeepdeer: run sudo ncdu /   # if you don't have ncdu installed try to install it with: sudo apt install ncdu # if you don't have enough space to install it, then boot into a live cd/usb, install ncdu, mount your drive and run ncdu against it to find out where all your space is being taken up
[22:38] <gneeriiloeepdeer> leftyfb, it worked, thanks
[22:42] <transhumanist> hi! If I want to specify a file size for dd without typing in 20 characters when I get up to 16 gig 32 gig 64 gig , etc how would I specify this with dd?
[22:42] <transhumanist> perhaps with the seek command?
[22:43] <sarnold> I've used bash's arithmetic feature before, eg $((1024*1024*1024*20))
[22:44] <leftyfb> transhumanist: fallocate -l 16G test.img
[22:44] <transhumanist> thanks leftyfb
[22:46] <leftyfb> transhumanist: if you must use dd, you can do dd if=/dev/zero of=test.img bs=1024 count=0 seek=$[1024*1024*16]
[23:17] <ogra> if yu have enough ram something like: dd if=/dev/zero of=testimage.img bs=1G count=16 works fine as well
[23:18] <ogra> (though definitely a lot slower than fallocate)
[23:21] <ProfessorChunk> So all the docs I find on setting a static IP in Ubuntu Server 20 say you must disable cloud-init first
[23:21] <ProfessorChunk> but my yaml file is a cloud init file.. I am very confused by netplan
[23:22] <axsuul> oerheks: jmiahjones3: thanks, hmm that schedule is a bit hard to read, hah. what does .5 mean, sorry
[23:33] <Pete77> Hello all, i have a small question, i have the repos for impoish main, restricted, universe in my home directory in a folder and now i want to add it to my sources.list. but it looks like after i do apt-get update, it is not able to update the repository datas. Any idea why?
[23:36] <Pete77> The output is that some files aren't found during the apt-get update, but if i put in the exaclty directory that apt says the file isn't here, it is...
[23:37] <oerheks> and.. your current system is not impish 21.10 ?
[23:37] <Pete77> yes
[23:37] <Pete77> i see one thing
[23:37] <oerheks> interesting
[23:37] <Pete77> all the data in the local repos are with .tar or other extensions
[23:37] <oerheks> i think that is not the proper way to upgrade.
[23:37] <Pete77> but apt's output is without any extension for the files
[23:38] <Pete77> like in the directory: main/cnf/Commands-amd64.xz but apt want a Commands-amd64 maybe?
[23:40] <oerheks> wait, you want to add these repos as a mirror? from a homefolder?
[23:40] <oerheks> why not in /var/www
[23:40] <transhumanist> thanks leftyfb
[23:40] <Pete77> i mean i move it after it works to another directory like /var/www
[23:41] <Pete77> but i think this doesn't makes any difference atm right?
[23:42] <sarnold> Pete77: this is what I've got for my archive mirror to read files from disk https://termbin.com/2trga
[23:44] <Pete77> special rights set? my sources.list looks not very different: deb file:///home/pete/ubuntu-mirror impish main restricted universe multiverse
[23:44] <Pete77> and this for impish-updates, impish-security too
[23:47] <sarnold> Pete77: nothing fancy https://termbin.com/xvho
[23:50] <Pete77> weird
[23:50] <Pete77> and you also have .xz .tar and other extensions in your mirror and not extracted files right?
[23:52] <sarnold> yeah
[23:52] <Pete77> maybe debmirror created a wrong local mirror for me