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lagboxwould anyone know why in gnome-shell on the top bar i have all these blank spots that seem like they should be holding an indicator but they are empty, but they are hoverable, more and more of them show up over time and they push the network/power/sound indicator off the screen on the right00:09
MonoLSup fellow Ubuntu users00:16
MonoLNice to be here00:16
matsaman'lo00:17
MonoLIs there some rule that says I need to stay on topic in here?00:17
matsamanI believe so yes00:18
matsaman/topic00:19
MonoLBecause I'm feeling silly00:19
matsamanI mean in an ideal world you'd receive a warning before being added to the permanent ban list =P00:19
oerheksMany have feelings, but that has nothing to do with technical support00:21
gneeriiloeepdeerdo you know the official channel for ebookviewer?01:12
oerhekswhch one ebookviewer?01:14
oerheksalis01:15
oerheks!alis01:15
ubottuAlis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see «/msg Alis help list» or ask in #libera - Example usage: «/msg Alis list http»01:15
sarnoldif that's one of those genericly named gnome applications, it might be on irc.gnome.org01:16
oerheksoh wait, such is standard in gnome01:16
sarnoldyeah01:17
gneeriiloeepdeerI have no idea: its listed as 'E-book viewer'01:17
gneeriiloeepdeeralis ebookviewer01:17
oerheksbookworm?01:18
oerheksno, gnome-books01:19
oerheks!info gnome-books01:19
ubottugnome-books (40.0-1, impish): ebook reader for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Built by gnome-books. Size 259 kB / 1,833 kB01:19
gneeriiloeepdeerhelp command returns 'ebook-viewer (calibre 5.25)'01:21
gneeriiloeepdeeris calibre the app's name?01:21
JackFrostI have E-Book Viewer and also Editor, with calibre installed.  So sounds right.01:22
gneeriiloeepdeerso what is calibre? the project's name?01:24
JackFrostcalibre is an ebook library/manager, it can convert and view too.  Yes, that is the name of the software.01:24
JackFrosthttps://calibre-ebook.com/about#contact01:25
oerheksNo. calibre is not standard01:25
oerheksgnome-books is, and i suppose support goes through mailinglists, they do not hang out as a group, AFAIK01:26
JackFrostI mean, help wouldn't call it 'Calibre' if it was indeed gnome-books, I'd imagine?01:27
oerheks!info calibre01:27
ubottucalibre (5.25.0+dfsg-2, impish): powerful and easy to use e-book manager. In component universe, is extra. Built by calibre. Size 24,019 kB / 55,249 kB01:27
oerheksextra01:27
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fluiDI just fired up my ubuntu server and it says I should run do-release-upgrade. Running that tells me to run apt upgrade. Apt upgraded gets a bunch of 404's and tells me to run apt update. Apt update complains that various repositories no longer have a release file.01:40
sarnolduhoh, you may have waited too long to upgrade, and the release you're on has probably been archived01:41
sarnoldthere's notes on how to upgrade out of this situation on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades01:41
sarnoldbut it may be easier to reinstall, depending upon what you've done on the system01:41
tomreynlsb_release -ds     should tell you which Ubuntu rleease you have there now.01:43
fluiDHoly cow really?!01:43
fluiDgroovy?01:43
sarnoldyeah01:43
tomreyn!groovy01:43
ubottuUbuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) was the 33rd release of Ubuntu, support ended July 22nd, 2021. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2021-June/000269.html01:43
sarnoldgroovy hit end of life around seven months ago https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases01:43
sarnoldgroovy's replacement hits eol in a few days01:44
fluiDhahah01:44
sarnoldyou may prefer to stick to the LTS releases :) they last a bit longer01:44
fluiDok. thanks for the info!01:45
fluff_i can connect to my network over my ethernet adapter for the first 2-3 restarts after i install ubuntu after that i get "Activation of network connection failed"01:59
fluff_how do i fix that02:00
jeffmr4what does ifconfig say about your adapter at the terminal?  Is it 'UP'?02:01
jeffmr4and does it see it?02:01
lagboxthats what she said02:02
fluff_command not found02:03
jeffmr4I'm not on ubuntu right now but you might have to install network cli tools.  I'm not sure what they are called.02:03
jeffmr4Anyone help him out?02:03
jeffmr4or her02:03
fluff_yes it says its up02:04
jeffmr4try to ping your router02:04
fluff_it was net-tools i needed to install02:04
jeffmr4ping 192.168.1.1 usually02:04
jeffmr4right02:05
fluff_it can ping my router02:05
jeffmr4what happens when you open firefox and go to google?02:05
fluff_it comes up cause i have internet through my phone temporarily02:06
jeffmr4turn off wifi and try again02:06
jeffmr4or tethering02:06
tomreynfluff_: we use "ip" nowadays rather than "ipconfig"02:07
fluff__ping gave network is unreachable when i disconnected my phone02:09
jeffmr4try ifconfig <your adapter, i.e. lo0 or whatever> down02:10
jeffmr4ifconfig up02:10
jeffmr4ifconfig <your adapter> up02:10
jeffmr4not ifconfig up02:10
jeffmr4then ping02:10
jeffmr4lo0 is the loopback.  Your adapter will be something else02:11
fluff__when i ping can i specify the adapter?02:11
jeffmr4It shouldn't make a difference if wifi is disconnected02:11
jeffmr4there should only be one at the time02:12
fluff__if i disconnect the phone i drop out of the irc is why02:12
jeffmr4once you disconnect, reboot and then see if your adapter works02:12
jeffmr4then come back here02:12
fluiDtwo upgrades and I'm at Ubuntu 21.10. Is that the latest?02:14
jeffmr4Yep02:14
fluiDoh, I can see in the topic that it is02:14
fluiDyay!02:14
fluiDThat was pretty easy. Thanks everyone!02:14
fluff_no change02:15
jeffmr4is it a usb to ethernet adapter?02:15
fluff_no its the one on my board02:15
jeffmr4desktop?02:15
fluff_yes02:16
jeffmr4when you type ifconfig what devices do you see?02:16
fluff_eno1 lo and usb002:16
jeffmr4which one has an ip address and gateway?02:17
fluff_usb0 is me using my phones hotspot as a wifi adapter02:17
jeffmr4So eno1 is your ethernet adapter.02:17
fluff_correct02:17
jeffmr4do a paste it of the ifconfig output.02:17
jeffmr4and paste the address here02:19
fluff_https://pastebin.com/0464Q0Aw02:20
fluff_couldnt get into my ubuntu one account for the ubuntu site02:20
fluff_so i used pastebin02:20
jeffmr4sure02:20
jeffmr4I can't remember the command but I think try dhcp eno102:21
jeffmr4or dhcpd eno102:22
fluff_neither command was found02:22
jeffmr4it needs to acquire an address02:22
fluff_what apt were those part of02:23
jeffmr4some unix or linux.  give me just a sec.  searching google02:24
jeffmr4try /etc/init.d/dhcp start02:24
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jeffmr4if that doesn't work this should, sorry about the choices,02:25
jeffmr4dhclient02:25
fluff_with dhclient my terminal is doing something at least02:26
jeffmr4try dhclient eno102:26
jeffmr4then ifconfig and see if you see an ip address02:26
fluff_thats what i put in02:26
fluff_its still executing the command02:27
jeffmr4ctrl + c and try dhclient by itself02:27
bancroftCan someone help me? I've mounted an additional drive but it seems like when I add files to the path for the external drive my main boot drive (which is a smaller SSD) gets filled up. I don't know why this is happening02:28
fluff_RTNETLINK answers: File exists02:28
fluff_that was the output02:28
jeffmr4not sure.  I could get on your computer and try myself but I'm not sure if the above isn't working.02:29
fluff_it spat out the activation of network error again at the top of my screen02:30
jeffmr4you could try systemctl restart networking02:31
sarnoldthat might be a quick way to lose control of the system02:32
sarnoldat least it was inthe past..02:32
jeffmr4I doubt it.  He can always reboot if it kicks him off.02:33
sarnoldthat's the thing, trying to restart networking that wayu would prevent contacting the init daemon and actually preventing you from issuing a shutdown or reboot command02:34
sarnoldmaybe it's been fixed, maybe not, I'm not brave enough to try it on any of the machines I've got running :)02:34
rabbitnightmarewhy are wifi drivers STILL  goddamn problem in 2022?!?02:52
rabbitnightmarerealtek 8723DU apparantly has a linux driver but it isn't loading02:53
rabbitnightmareplease help02:53
rabbitnightmareit worked before02:53
sarnoldwhat error are you getting?02:53
rabbitnightmarebluetooth shows up but Linux treats the wifi card as if its not even there02:53
rabbitnightmareI tried several distros to no avail02:54
rabbitnightmareI remember getting it to work on this computer which is why I own it02:54
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lotuspsychjerabbitnightmare: realtek will always be a kernel itchy issue02:57
rabbitnightmarewell when I buy hardware for Linux I kind of expect it to work02:58
rabbitnightmareits a system7602:58
rabbitnightmareI don't understand02:59
lotuspsychjerabbitnightmare: wich kernel are you on?02:59
rabbitnightmarewhatever Ubuntu ships with02:59
jhutchinsrabbitnightmare: Realtek hates Linux and breaks things on a regular basis.02:59
lotuspsychjedepends on your release and time ubuntu installed02:59
lotuspsychjeuname -a02:59
rabbitnightmarelatest and lts releases neither works all of a sudden03:00
sarnoldif you're on a system76 then you may wish to use pop_OS! instead, they provide their own kernels for a reason03:00
rabbitnightmarefedora debian linux mint ubuntu open suse manjaro all tested and BAM no luck but Windows 10 works somehow03:00
rabbitnightmareI also tried pop03:00
rabbitnightmaresame issue03:00
rabbitnightmareWindows runs SO hot on this thing lol03:01
rabbitnightmarelike 100c03:01
jhutchinsrabbitnightmare: Is it possible you have a dead card?03:03
rabbitnightmarebut it works on windows03:03
rabbitnightmaretalking right now on win1103:03
rabbitnightmareactually03:03
rabbitnightmareworks on 10 and 1103:03
rabbitnightmareits a wifi n card03:04
rabbitnightmarenot ac not wifi603:04
jhutchinsrabbitnightmare: Network drivers usually migrate into kernel.org before they get picked up by distros.  You might start there and try to dig up what project might be working on that particular card.03:04
rabbitnightmareima try an old version of pop03:05
jhutchinsAlthough I think you said it worked before, so it should be in the mainline.  Can you go back to an earlier release where it worked?03:05
rabbitnightmareI dont get why older Linux worked but newer ones dont03:05
jhutchinsrabbitnightmare: It's called regression. Happens sometimes.03:06
lotuspsychjerabbitnightmare: instead of discussing, perhaps lets focus on a solution?03:06
jhutchinsrabbitnightmare: Like maybe someone tweaked something to work with a newer version of the chipset, and killed the old one.03:06
rabbitnightmarehttps://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Wireless-and-Networking/Realtek-8723DE-wifi-module-amp-Bluetooth-Linux-driver/td-p/647730703:07
rabbitnightmareI mean its not a new wifi card03:07
jhutchinslotuspsychje: I think trying older versions of the OS/kernel/drivers is a step in the right direction.03:07
rabbitnightmareD/E/U all same same03:07
jhutchinslotuspsychje: Got anything else?03:07
rabbitnightmareE is europe, U is united states03:08
lotuspsychjedmesg in a paste could be useful03:08
jhutchins!paste03:09
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:09
jhutchinsrabbitnightmare: Fire away.03:10
jhutchinsrabbitnightmare: You'll have to dump dmesg to a file that you can access from windows in order to paste it.03:10
rabbitnightmarehaha right03:11
rabbitnightmareI found an original build of popos for this laptop we shall see03:12
rabbitnightmareI wonder if I can pull the drivers out and put them in a newer kernel version03:13
Guest96554What's good?03:14
rabbitnightmarecinnamon peach cobbler03:15
Guest96554I meant whats up nigga?03:15
MinusOneHi, I have an openvz vps running ubuntu 16.04. Is there an easy way to check if it is set up to receive extended security maintenance?03:21
MinusOneI.e., it claims to be up to date, is there a way to check for security update history?03:22
sarnold/var/log/dpkg.log has a bunch of detailed stuff..03:22
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sarnold/var/log/apt/history.log is way easier to read but is probably apt only.. (probably everything, but not neccessarily..)03:23
sarnold"ua status" should report informatoin on ESM03:24
MinusOnesarnold, I have no ua package, nor an installation candidate. Does that mean I have no support?03:24
MinusOnewell or a different package name. I will google and ask fewer questions until I have =P03:25
sarnoldMinusOne: probably.. try installing ubuntu-advantage-tools03:25
sarnoldthat's the package that owns ua on my 16.04 irssi instance :)03:25
MinusOneOk, that is the right package. I can now see my provider did not set me up with UA. Thanks for the help!03:27
sarnoldsure thing03:27
sarnoldthere should be a way to get a free token for something like three machines on the website.. hopefully ua has enough breadcrumbs to get there03:27
MinusOneyeah I will check it out, I found info on Canonical's site also03:28
sarnoldgood good03:29
sarnoldalright, I'm off, have fun :)03:29
MinusOnehave a good one :-)03:29
sarnoldthanks :)03:29
leftyfbMinusOne: you really should update. You're not going to see many updates to 16.04 even though ESM04:09
MinusOneleftyfb, the difficulty is that this is an openvz vps I rent. I am uncertain whether this is an upgrade path that will leave me with a functioning server. Also, this is a cheap file storage server I consider inherently untrustworthy, so looking for updates is more about best practice than real need04:13
MinusOne*whether there is an upgrade path04:14
MinusOneEverything I put on this server is either encrypted or I don't mind being public04:14
leftyfbsetup a new VPS and migrate04:14
MinusOneleftyfb, yeah, but it is a super good deal for a terabyte of storage04:14
leftyfbthey're giving a good deal because they're selling an EOL releasE?04:15
MinusOneleftyfb, I don't know how their deals are so good or why they don't want to upgrade. I would assume their is a correlation between lack of security and price. However, I did learn that I am on a supported and maintained kernel due to how openvz works. So it is just ( "just" ) package vulnerabilities that are a concern04:16
MinusOneI am gonna see if I can at least address package vulnerabilites with esm04:20
MinusOneyep, ua is getting me those sweet, sweet security upgrades. Yum.04:23
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Bernie__hey you06:26
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Bernie__motor control of how many06:47
Bernie__is it localuzed06:47
Bernie__or global06:47
Bernie__the motor pathways of humanoid hosts on ubuntu kernel06:48
Bernie__which kernel is tge forex slave trade?06:48
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fdfewhy doesn't ubuntu ever backports anything? no money, or because debian don't?08:34
matsamanUbuntu has never had many resources to stray from Debian much08:41
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Guest69what version of ubuntu supports wayland? 21.04 ? 21.10?11:48
lotuspsychjeGuest69: most ubuntu releases have wayland now, you can find out by logging out and click the gear icon to see if its wayland or xorg11:54
Guest69is a particular nvidida driver version required to run? e.g., 470?11:54
Guest69i attempted to use wayland but just got my motherboard's bootup screen. i've been using nvidida drivers version 460. not sure if that's the issue11:55
lotuspsychjeGuest69: i think they are working on wayland and 470, so yeah thats surely a test you can make, if your card allows the driver version11:56
lotuspsychjeGuest69: ubuntu-drivers list will show you11:56
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BluesKajHi folks12:57
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Nobremhi14:41
Nobremhow can I trick a program into thinking I have a higher GTK version that I actually have?14:41
Maikprobably not14:41
leftyfbyou don't14:41
leftyfbNobrem: what version of ubuntu are you running?14:42
Nobrem18.0414:42
Nobremprotonvpn-cli  won't connect14:42
Nobremprotonvpn  (the GUI) dislikes my GTK version14:42
Maikupgrade to 20.04 then if that's an option14:42
NobremMaik, this computer will get its funeral in ~2 weeks14:43
NobremMaik, so, not at this moment14:43
Maikthen why bother14:43
Nobrembecause even these 2 weeks are important for me14:45
tomreynfocus on making the CLI work, getting support from the software developers.14:45
NobremCan we try to find a solution for 10 minutes,  and then I write them an e-mail?14:47
NobremI am using the free version of the VPN,  so not sure how quickly I will get help there14:47
Nobremsetting the username and password worked and I am logged in14:48
leftyfbNobrem: we cannot support 3rd party software, especially commercial software14:48
Nobremthe problem is the connection process.  -  No errors.   But it connects, like, forever14:48
Maikcontact them since it's about their VPN and thus not Ubuntu related.14:48
NobremI wasn't aware,  #ubuntu  had such a strict policy.14:49
Nobremthank you, bye bye!14:49
PriceyOn Focal and all of a sudden shim is suggested for autoremove... this is a trap?15:09
PriceyHmm but shim-signed stays.15:11
PriceyAha, all intentional transision https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim/+bug/192113415:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1921134 in OEM Priority Project "SBAT shim 15.4 release" [Medium, Fix Released]15:12
Pricey*transition!15:12
HundHi! Is there some tool to assure consistency when doing translations, that anyone can recommend?15:36
alkisgEh, most online translating services have consistency as one of their goals...15:50
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webchat77On Ubuntu 20.04 Desktop in Settings | Appearance | Dock I have turned on "Auto-hide the Dock" and dock auto hide, this is fine. But I would like to turn dock on only if Super key is pressed and I would like dock to NOT appear if I move mouse to the left site of window. I have searched the dconf settings and turned on16:40
webchat77/org/gnome/shell/extensions/dash-to-dock/require-pressure-to-show settings, but when I move mouse to the dock dock appears automatically. As I said, I would like to turn dock on only if I press Super key.16:40
jhutchinswebchat77: What make you think that's an option?16:42
webchat77jhutchins, the settings name. I don't know maybe there is some other setting to do the trick.16:43
oerheksPressure threshold - Sets how much pressure is needed to show the dash.16:44
oerhekscurrent 10016:44
oerheksi see no delay or something16:45
webchat77@oerheks, I have changed pressure-threshold from 100 to 1000 and it looks like problem is solved. Is there any recommended value to be set?16:55
leftyfbwebchat77: personal preference16:56
oerhekswebchat77, do some tests to find out, and share such on 'askubuntu'?16:56
webchat77@oe16:58
Hundalkisg: They probably have, but I would like to have an alternative to https://amagama-live.translatehouse.org which doesn't work anymore.16:59
webchat77oerheks, I have been playing around with this settings and values between 0 and 286 and dock is still displayed when I move mouse to edge. When value 287 or more the dock is not displayed on mouse move to edge. Interesting... Don't understand why 287 is the limit17:01
oerhekswebchat77, that number does not give me a clue either17:03
DTA72hello17:14
DTA72i was referred here from Kubuntu/off topic as i installed kde/plasma onto ubuntu latest kernel release17:15
DTA72attempting pastebin17:15
jhutchinsDTA72: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?17:18
leftyfbDTA72: you are having an issue with KDE/Plasma and you were referred here from #kubuntu?17:21
DTA72hello thank you all for your response... i had to register pastebin as the provided avenue was not available in my resource repository... https://pastebin.com/vVYjpr1G17:23
leftyfbDTA72: what is ROG "Republic of Gamers"?17:24
DTA72yes17:24
leftyfbthat wasn't a binary questio17:25
leftyfbn17:25
DTA72its the screen that auto generates upon powering up17:25
leftyfbDTA72: what is ROG "Republic of Gamers"?17:25
DTA72ASUS motherboard17:25
leftyfbDTA72: ok, then you are having a hardware issue. Nothing to do with ubuntu17:25
DTA72ROG Strix B550-F Gaming17:25
leftyfbDTA72: try #hardware or contact Asus for support with their hardware17:26
DTA72i tried many times im getting no response... ive tried many different youtube vids and online resources to no avail... of course changes to bios settings and full update17:26
DTA72ok ty @leftyfb ill try that hardware channel chat17:27
leftyfbDTA72: it seems like you have 2 or 3 separate issues. The first is the "ROG" message. That is related to your Asus hardware and nothing to do with the operating system on the hard drive. You said the only way to get out of it is to reboot. I'm not sure how you're getting to the next problems though. "i can only login via. grub menu" and "with partial graphics functionality"17:30
jhutchinsActually, the ROG screen is probably a sign that we're not getting as far as GRUB.17:30
leftyfbyup, probably POST17:30
jhutchinsIt's not a hardware failure, it's success.17:30
leftyfbwhich can probably be disabled in the BIOS17:31
jhutchinsI doubt the screen matters, what needs to happen is correctly picking up the bootloader.17:31
leftyfbI don't understand how they're saying the message pops up on boot and the only way to get out of it is to reboot. Then I'm not sure how any other problem exists if they can't get passed it17:31
jhutchinsThis is one of the rare occasions that I think reinstalling might be a solution.17:31
leftyfbyup, and if they want KDE, I could suggest installing kubuntu and not KDE on top of ubuntu17:32
jhutchinsThere shouldn't be any significant difference.  It's just marketing.17:33
jhutchinsYou should be able to have gnome, kde, xfce, lxde and whatever other environments you want all installed on the base OS.17:33
leftyfbexcept for the fact that people come here all the time with problems stemming from installing another DE and trying to go back and forth and one causing problems with another17:34
jhutchinsWhich suggests the problems are with the underlying system and not the Desktop overlay.17:34
leftyfbsure, but that means the differences are more than just marketing. It doesn't always work right for whatever reason. Installing the desktop you want from the beginning avoids those issues17:35
DTA72i hope this can help assist others when it gets worked out... https://pastebin.com/Y6Ym4cwn Thanks again17:35
leftyfbDTA72: you really shouldn't keep a running list of chats and present that as your issue. Again, it seems like you have multiple issues. Only 1 should be debugged at a time. Either way, you might save yourself a lot of time and effort just installing kubuntu from scratch17:37
jhutchinsDTA72: You need to edit your post down to just your explanation of what the problem is without all of the spurious irrelevant text.  Did you try the kernel parameter that was suggested?17:37
DTA72i tried many times from usb stick... it requires windows os with all these different bootable drive programs and just got me very confused over the past months of trying to resolve this...17:39
leftyfbDTA72: installing ubuntu/kubuntu does not require Windows in any way17:39
DTA72yes i tried from command line/terminal install as well ... hence the only way i am even here right now17:40
leftyfbDTA72: you really aren't clear on the issues. First you say your machine doesn't boot, but now you're saying it does17:42
DTA72[11:47] <DTA72> upon the choices given upon reboot is hit delete or f2 keys to enter bios.... or wait until OS ubuntu kernel version choices are presented... so if i wait and dont make a choice of "recovery mode" boot it auto generates the *ubuntu which immediately goes to "ROG" screen and freezes17:49
DTA72[11:48] <DTA72> so the only way i am here is from recovery mode which does not fully load parameters of ubuntu17:49
DTA72[11:48] <DTA72> is that more clear?17:49
tomreynDTA72: when you had only ubuntu installed, did the graphical desktop work well?17:59
tomreynif yes: i suggest you reinstall whichever you want to have - ubuntu, kubuntu, or any other !flavour17:59
jhutchinsSo what channel do you go to if you have problems with the base OS that don't have anything to do with Gnome?18:00
tomreynif no: i suggest you look for a bios upgrade and install that, and try again18:00
tomreynjhutchins: here, as long as it's software from official ubuntu software sources18:01
leftyfbjhutchins: here. Unless the probably are pretty -server software specific, then go to #ubuntu-server18:01
leftyfbprobably/problem18:01
BarnabasDKsame kernel though18:01
BarnabasDKper release version18:02
leftyfbBarnabasDK: sure, but -server is usually best suited to problems with apache or mysql or the like18:02
BarnabasDKagree 100%18:02
BarnabasDK#ubuntu-server18:04
BarnabasDKI belive18:04
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WebChat53Good Afternoon18:09
tomreynhi WebChat53, do you have an ubuntu support question?18:09
tomreynalso, which web chat are you using (what's the http address?)18:10
leftyfbheh .. you were getting too personal :)18:10
DTA72working on this suggestion.... https://www.fosslinux.com/43836/fix-asus-linux-laptop-stuck-logo-screen.htm18:12
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jhutchinsStop trying to communicate with links.18:14
leftyfbDTA72: good luck18:14
jhutchinsDTA72: Didn't somebody already suggest a BIOS update?18:15
DTA72thanks for the good luck wishes @leftyfb i will need it... @jhutchins i have already updated bios to current version18:19
jhutchinsDTA72: So did that have any effect on your initial problem?  If you're past that, where are you now? (NO LINKS PLEASE).18:20
DTA72following the Fosslinux link and rebooting now to change grub entry18:22
DTA72if anybody has any other suggestions please send to lightsight2012@gmail.com18:22
DTA72Namaste18:22
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alkisgΝα'μαστε in Greek means "Here we are" :)19:01
Maikalkisg: so?19:04
Maiki probably missed something....19:04
alkisgDTA72 said "Namaste" which is an Indian phrase; the same phrase means something else in Greek19:05
alkisgIt's nothing important, ignore it :)19:06
Maikalkisg: oh, right. I get it now. :)19:08
webchat333Hey everyone hope everyone is having a good Friday. If anyone is bored I could use some help. I have a late 2012 mac mini running Ubuntu server 20.04 and I installed an AirPlay mirroring server following this https://github.com/FDH2/UxPlay . Installed without errors and runs without errors however when I connect to it to airplay the screen stays at19:16
webchat333the tty1 login screen. I'm barely technically able. Do I need to install a Desktop Environment or ?  The only other thing installed is pi-hole with unbound and cockpit.19:16
matsamanwebchat333: if you want to use a desktop environment, yes you'll have to install one19:32
matsamanwebchat333: I believe the default one's meta-package would be called 'ubuntu-desktop'19:32
webchat333I don't want to if I don't need it for the AirPlay server to work19:32
matsamanif you wanted to take baby steps, you could install smaller bits to start with, though it shouldn't really matter either way19:32
matsamanwebchat333: I wouldn't think you would need it, no19:33
webchat333hmm ok thanks19:33
matsamanwebchat333: you can use sshfs or whatever to get data on/off19:33
pycurioushow do i move ubuntu 20.04 gcc to 11.2 instead of 10.3?19:48
leftyfbpycurious: it's not supported19:50
pycuriousleftyfb: whats the highest version that is supported?19:52
leftyfb10.3.0-1ubuntu1~20.0419:52
sarnoldpycurious: you could try the backportpackage command to backport gcc-11 to focal. it might build, it might not, dunno.19:56
pycuriousWhen I fire: apt-get install -y python3-pip git cmake curl python3-dev  — it installs gcc-9 - and after that if i do gcc —version it gives me 9.x19:57
pycuriousg++ (Ubuntu 9.3.0-17ubuntu1~20.04) 9.3.019:58
pycuriousany ideas how to get g++ default version to be 10.3 instead of 9.3 ?19:58
leftyfbpycurious: g++-1019:59
cbreakpycurious: do you have both installed?19:59
pycuriousI want g++ —version to give 10.x not 9.x20:00
cbreakpycurious: then install g++ 10 first20:00
cbreakafterwards, maybe update-alternatives can help you.20:01
cbreakdepending on how the g++ symlink is managed20:01
pycuriouscbreak: sudo apt install g++-10 gcc-10?20:02
cbreakif your ubuntu offers that, sure20:03
cbreakmine only offers gcc-1020:03
leftyfbg++-10 is part of the universe repo20:04
cbreakand on my system, the g++ symlink seems to be hard-coded, not update-alternatives20:04
cbreakseems it's part of the gcc meta package here, and points to gcc-1120:05
cbreakso no update-alternatives :(20:05
cbreakpycurious: you can still make a g++ symlink earlier in your $PATH if you want, to overwrite that20:05
pycuriousI think the python-dev packages install 9.3  - so am trying to install the -10 manually before - see if that has any effect20:05
pycurious$ lsb_release -ds —> Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS.  and — $ gcc --version gcc (Ubuntu 9.3.0-17ubuntu1~20.04) 9.3.0 - I tried apt install g++-10 gcc-10 - same output20:21
sarnoldpycurious: ls -l `which gcc` will probably explain a lot20:21
leftyfbtype -a gcc20:22
leftyfbpycurious: https://ahelpme.com/linux/ubuntu/install-and-make-gnu-gcc-10-default-in-ubuntu-20-04-focal/ found on google by searching for "ubuntu 20.04 gcc-10"20:24
leftyfbor not20:25
leftyfbpycurious: https://ahelpme.com/linux/ubuntu/install-and-make-gnu-gcc-10-default-in-ubuntu-20-04-focal/ found on google by searching for "ubuntu 20.04 gcc-10"20:31
deadmundI am looking for a program that can convert a postscript / eps file into a png or gif or some other "normal" image format.  I found https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man1/psconvert.1gmt.html  but the package gmt-common does not seem to provide that command for me on my system.  What am I doing wrong?20:31
deadmundapt-file show gmt-common | grep psconvert     outputs nothing?20:31
leftyfbdeadmund: brother-lpr-drivers-laser1: /usr/Brother/lpd/psconvert20:32
leftyfbthough not sure if that's what you want20:32
deadmundleftyfb: Probably not bro20:32
leftyfbthat is the only package with psconvert20:33
deadmundI know20:33
deadmundCan anyone explain this documentation???  https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man1/psconvert.1gmt.html   It clearly indicates that there should be a psconvert in gmt-common20:34
sarnolddeadmund: probably graphicsmagick knows how to drive ghostscript to do this sort of thing; I know imagemagick can, too, but it might be disabled by default in the imagemagick configuratino files because ghostscript is even more unsafe than imagemagick...20:36
rfmdeadmund, I found an example of rendering to PNG in the ghostscript docs: https://www.ghostscript.com/doc/current/Devices.htm#PNG20:37
rfmdeadmund, tho of course as usual with gs there are Too Many Options20:37
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familiakelp21:34
jhutchinsSomething fishy about that one.21:36
sarnold:)21:36
jimkloQ: anyone know how to configure the ports for nlockmgr so they can pass through the firewall22:19
jhutchinsjimklo: What ports?  What firewall?22:38
leftyfbjimklo: https://serverfault.com/a/377172   but also, I don't see nlockmgr in ubuntu at all. Also, I hope you're only running NFS locally and not over the internet22:43
jimklo@jhutchins lockd_tcpport/lockd_udpport and ufw22:44
jimkloleftyfb: only in private network22:44
leftyfbjimklo: if it's for a private network, then why do you have a firewall blocking any inbound access from other machines on the same network?22:45
jimkloit's complicated22:46
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toxic0has anyone maybe written or seen a systemd config for ucarp that comes from the ubuntu repo ? I've been following this guide https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/ucarp that works more or less correctly but is still using the ancient /etc/init.d scripts...23:20
jhutchinstoxic0: Nothing wrong with that if it works.23:22
jhutchinstoxic0: Most commercial firewalls have that capability built in these days.  What's your environment like?23:24
toxic0jhutchins oh yes I use opnSense and it already has CARP for itself, but I'm trying to have a failover for my main reverse-proxy behind the opnSense box, and they are 2 ubuntu lxc containers running on different pve hosts23:33
toxic0I was not able to imagine a way where opnSense would check for port 443 being open on one of the ip of the reverse-proxy and assigning the first one in the pool to some VIP23:34
toxic0don't think it can be transparent like that for the lxc containers, if they have no idea they are master or not they don't know if they should answer to the VIP or not and probably the IP stack would drop these packets that are to the VIP23:36
[newton]where to go with new ideaS?23:36
toxic0I did not want opnSense to do the https decryption, so unless there is a nice solution to NAT the VIP to either of the nodes depending if they listen on port 443, I think my best bet is still ucarp running on each node23:37
[newton]no way thats facinating23:37
toxic0not sure waht to make of your comments newton23:39
[newton]comments plural?23:39
ravagepretty sure hes just a troll. ignore him23:39
[newton]how could you know?23:40
[newton]i could get annoyed at that23:40
[newton]teach me for sure but cut me off like that youre a troll23:40
[newton]a nick like that?!23:41
toxic0thx ravage, It's been a while since I was on irc, I know there are lots of nice people and lots of rules I migh overstep without even noticing, so I wanted to take car and not just swipe these away as they made no sens to me nor did they seem useful in any way to my situation or seemed addressed to anyone else specifically ;)23:41
[newton]so you obviously dont care in the slightest about people with mental difficulties23:42
sarnoldtoxic0: hrm, that guide is also using interface aliases, those haven't been necessary in twenty years or something23:42
sarnoldtoxic0: hrm, that guide is also using interface aliases, those haven't been necessary in twenty years or something23:43
toxic0didn't find anything more up to date sadly for ubuntu or debian, seems carp is nowerdays not something one does outside of firewalls :D23:44
sarnoldcould be ;(23:44
jimkloleftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9JdhKbymnB/23:45
ravagetoxic0: its not from the ubuntu repo but maybe it still works? https://gist.github.com/larsks/500987223:45
ravagealso note the first comment about the service type23:46
toxic0well, at least it does seem to work and it seems to me a simple solution I can easily fix if something goes astray so I'll stick with that for now and ask at opnSense if someone got a better idea for failover.23:46
[newton]ok so no one here is interested in new ideas?23:49
[newton]fail23:50
toxic0thx ravage, had also seen another one like this but I was more tempted to try the one from ubuntu wiki first, never know with gists dating back from 2016 ;) Seems quite simple though, might try it soon, still need to test-out the --upscript option, ans as I'm myself not an expert in systemd, debuging with a init.d script is something I've done many times and feel comfortable, but moving to a unit-file will help me once times comes to try out ansible 23:51
tuskohello friends23:58
tuskoI'm running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, and I've made a settings.ini file in $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/ as usual, but it doesn't seem to be giving me what I want.23:59

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