[00:09] <lagbox> would anyone know why in gnome-shell on the top bar i have all these blank spots that seem like they should be holding an indicator but they are empty, but they are hoverable, more and more of them show up over time and they push the network/power/sound indicator off the screen on the right
[00:16] <MonoL> Sup fellow Ubuntu users
[00:16] <MonoL> Nice to be here
[00:17] <matsaman> 'lo
[00:17] <MonoL> Is there some rule that says I need to stay on topic in here?
[00:18] <matsaman> I believe so yes
[00:19] <matsaman> /topic
[00:19] <MonoL> Because I'm feeling silly
[00:19] <matsaman> I mean in an ideal world you'd receive a warning before being added to the permanent ban list =P
[00:21] <oerheks> Many have feelings, but that has nothing to do with technical support
[01:12] <gneeriiloeepdeer> do you know the official channel for ebookviewer?
[01:14] <oerheks> whch one ebookviewer?
[01:15] <oerheks> alis
[01:15] <oerheks> !alis
[01:16] <sarnold> if that's one of those genericly named gnome applications, it might be on irc.gnome.org
[01:16] <oerheks> oh wait, such is standard in gnome
[01:17] <sarnold> yeah
[01:17] <gneeriiloeepdeer> I have no idea: its listed as 'E-book viewer'
[01:17] <gneeriiloeepdeer> alis ebookviewer
[01:18] <oerheks> bookworm?
[01:19] <oerheks> no, gnome-books
[01:19] <oerheks> !info gnome-books
[01:21] <gneeriiloeepdeer> help command returns 'ebook-viewer (calibre 5.25)'
[01:21] <gneeriiloeepdeer> is calibre the app's name?
[01:22] <JackFrost> I have E-Book Viewer and also Editor, with calibre installed.  So sounds right.
[01:24] <gneeriiloeepdeer> so what is calibre? the project's name?
[01:24] <JackFrost> calibre is an ebook library/manager, it can convert and view too.  Yes, that is the name of the software.
[01:25] <JackFrost> https://calibre-ebook.com/about#contact
[01:25] <oerheks> No. calibre is not standard
[01:26] <oerheks> gnome-books is, and i suppose support goes through mailinglists, they do not hang out as a group, AFAIK
[01:27] <JackFrost> I mean, help wouldn't call it 'Calibre' if it was indeed gnome-books, I'd imagine?
[01:27] <oerheks> !info calibre
[01:27] <oerheks> extra
[01:40] <fluiD> I just fired up my ubuntu server and it says I should run do-release-upgrade. Running that tells me to run apt upgrade. Apt upgraded gets a bunch of 404's and tells me to run apt update. Apt update complains that various repositories no longer have a release file.
[01:41] <sarnold> uhoh, you may have waited too long to upgrade, and the release you're on has probably been archived
[01:41] <sarnold> there's notes on how to upgrade out of this situation on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[01:41] <sarnold> but it may be easier to reinstall, depending upon what you've done on the system
[01:43] <tomreyn> lsb_release -ds     should tell you which Ubuntu rleease you have there now.
[01:43] <fluiD> Holy cow really?!
[01:43] <fluiD> groovy?
[01:43] <sarnold> yeah
[01:43] <tomreyn> !groovy
[01:43] <sarnold> groovy hit end of life around seven months ago https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[01:44] <sarnold> groovy's replacement hits eol in a few days
[01:44] <fluiD> hahah
[01:44] <sarnold> you may prefer to stick to the LTS releases :) they last a bit longer
[01:45] <fluiD> ok. thanks for the info!
[01:59] <fluff_> i can connect to my network over my ethernet adapter for the first 2-3 restarts after i install ubuntu after that i get "Activation of network connection failed"
[02:00] <fluff_> how do i fix that
[02:01] <jeffmr4> what does ifconfig say about your adapter at the terminal?  Is it 'UP'?
[02:01] <jeffmr4> and does it see it?
[02:02] <lagbox> thats what she said
[02:03] <fluff_> command not found
[02:03] <jeffmr4> I'm not on ubuntu right now but you might have to install network cli tools.  I'm not sure what they are called.
[02:03] <jeffmr4> Anyone help him out?
[02:03] <jeffmr4> or her
[02:04] <fluff_> yes it says its up
[02:04] <jeffmr4> try to ping your router
[02:04] <fluff_> it was net-tools i needed to install
[02:04] <jeffmr4> ping 192.168.1.1 usually
[02:05] <jeffmr4> right
[02:05] <fluff_> it can ping my router
[02:05] <jeffmr4> what happens when you open firefox and go to google?
[02:06] <fluff_> it comes up cause i have internet through my phone temporarily
[02:06] <jeffmr4> turn off wifi and try again
[02:06] <jeffmr4> or tethering
[02:07] <tomreyn> fluff_: we use "ip" nowadays rather than "ipconfig"
[02:09] <fluff__> ping gave network is unreachable when i disconnected my phone
[02:10] <jeffmr4> try ifconfig <your adapter, i.e. lo0 or whatever> down
[02:10] <jeffmr4> ifconfig up
[02:10] <jeffmr4> ifconfig <your adapter> up
[02:10] <jeffmr4> not ifconfig up
[02:10] <jeffmr4> then ping
[02:11] <jeffmr4> lo0 is the loopback.  Your adapter will be something else
[02:11] <fluff__> when i ping can i specify the adapter?
[02:11] <jeffmr4> It shouldn't make a difference if wifi is disconnected
[02:12] <jeffmr4> there should only be one at the time
[02:12] <fluff__> if i disconnect the phone i drop out of the irc is why
[02:12] <jeffmr4> once you disconnect, reboot and then see if your adapter works
[02:12] <jeffmr4> then come back here
[02:14] <fluiD> two upgrades and I'm at Ubuntu 21.10. Is that the latest?
[02:14] <jeffmr4> Yep
[02:14] <fluiD> oh, I can see in the topic that it is
[02:14] <fluiD> yay!
[02:14] <fluiD> That was pretty easy. Thanks everyone!
[02:15] <fluff_> no change
[02:15] <jeffmr4> is it a usb to ethernet adapter?
[02:15] <fluff_> no its the one on my board
[02:15] <jeffmr4> desktop?
[02:16] <fluff_> yes
[02:16] <jeffmr4> when you type ifconfig what devices do you see?
[02:16] <fluff_> eno1 lo and usb0
[02:17] <jeffmr4> which one has an ip address and gateway?
[02:17] <fluff_> usb0 is me using my phones hotspot as a wifi adapter
[02:17] <jeffmr4> So eno1 is your ethernet adapter.
[02:17] <fluff_> correct
[02:17] <jeffmr4> do a paste it of the ifconfig output.
[02:19] <jeffmr4> and paste the address here
[02:20] <fluff_> https://pastebin.com/0464Q0Aw
[02:20] <fluff_> couldnt get into my ubuntu one account for the ubuntu site
[02:20] <fluff_> so i used pastebin
[02:20] <jeffmr4> sure
[02:21] <jeffmr4> I can't remember the command but I think try dhcp eno1
[02:22] <jeffmr4> or dhcpd eno1
[02:22] <fluff_> neither command was found
[02:22] <jeffmr4> it needs to acquire an address
[02:23] <fluff_> what apt were those part of
[02:24] <jeffmr4> some unix or linux.  give me just a sec.  searching google
[02:24] <jeffmr4> try /etc/init.d/dhcp start
[02:25] <jeffmr4> if that doesn't work this should, sorry about the choices,
[02:25] <jeffmr4> dhclient
[02:26] <fluff_> with dhclient my terminal is doing something at least
[02:26] <jeffmr4> try dhclient eno1
[02:26] <jeffmr4> then ifconfig and see if you see an ip address
[02:26] <fluff_> thats what i put in
[02:27] <fluff_> its still executing the command
[02:27] <jeffmr4> ctrl + c and try dhclient by itself
[02:28] <bancroft> Can someone help me? I've mounted an additional drive but it seems like when I add files to the path for the external drive my main boot drive (which is a smaller SSD) gets filled up. I don't know why this is happening
[02:28] <fluff_> RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[02:28] <fluff_> that was the output
[02:29] <jeffmr4> not sure.  I could get on your computer and try myself but I'm not sure if the above isn't working.
[02:30] <fluff_> it spat out the activation of network error again at the top of my screen
[02:31] <jeffmr4> you could try systemctl restart networking
[02:32] <sarnold> that might be a quick way to lose control of the system
[02:32] <sarnold> at least it was inthe past..
[02:33] <jeffmr4> I doubt it.  He can always reboot if it kicks him off.
[02:34] <sarnold> that's the thing, trying to restart networking that wayu would prevent contacting the init daemon and actually preventing you from issuing a shutdown or reboot command
[02:34] <sarnold> maybe it's been fixed, maybe not, I'm not brave enough to try it on any of the machines I've got running :)
[02:52] <rabbitnightmare> why are wifi drivers STILL  goddamn problem in 2022?!?
[02:53] <rabbitnightmare> realtek 8723DU apparantly has a linux driver but it isn't loading
[02:53] <rabbitnightmare> please help
[02:53] <rabbitnightmare> it worked before
[02:53] <sarnold> what error are you getting?
[02:53] <rabbitnightmare> bluetooth shows up but Linux treats the wifi card as if its not even there
[02:54] <rabbitnightmare> I tried several distros to no avail
[02:54] <rabbitnightmare> I remember getting it to work on this computer which is why I own it
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> rabbitnightmare: realtek will always be a kernel itchy issue
[02:58] <rabbitnightmare> well when I buy hardware for Linux I kind of expect it to work
[02:58] <rabbitnightmare> its a system76
[02:59] <rabbitnightmare> I don't understand
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> rabbitnightmare: wich kernel are you on?
[02:59] <rabbitnightmare> whatever Ubuntu ships with
[02:59] <jhutchins> rabbitnightmare: Realtek hates Linux and breaks things on a regular basis.
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> depends on your release and time ubuntu installed
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> uname -a
[03:00] <rabbitnightmare> latest and lts releases neither works all of a sudden
[03:00] <sarnold> if you're on a system76 then you may wish to use pop_OS! instead, they provide their own kernels for a reason
[03:00] <rabbitnightmare> fedora debian linux mint ubuntu open suse manjaro all tested and BAM no luck but Windows 10 works somehow
[03:00] <rabbitnightmare> I also tried pop
[03:00] <rabbitnightmare> same issue
[03:01] <rabbitnightmare> Windows runs SO hot on this thing lol
[03:01] <rabbitnightmare> like 100c
[03:03] <jhutchins> rabbitnightmare: Is it possible you have a dead card?
[03:03] <rabbitnightmare> but it works on windows
[03:03] <rabbitnightmare> talking right now on win11
[03:03] <rabbitnightmare> actually
[03:03] <rabbitnightmare> works on 10 and 11
[03:04] <rabbitnightmare> its a wifi n card
[03:04] <rabbitnightmare> not ac not wifi6
[03:04] <jhutchins> rabbitnightmare: Network drivers usually migrate into kernel.org before they get picked up by distros.  You might start there and try to dig up what project might be working on that particular card.
[03:05] <rabbitnightmare> ima try an old version of pop
[03:05] <jhutchins> Although I think you said it worked before, so it should be in the mainline.  Can you go back to an earlier release where it worked?
[03:05] <rabbitnightmare> I dont get why older Linux worked but newer ones dont
[03:06] <jhutchins> rabbitnightmare: It's called regression. Happens sometimes.
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> rabbitnightmare: instead of discussing, perhaps lets focus on a solution?
[03:06] <jhutchins> rabbitnightmare: Like maybe someone tweaked something to work with a newer version of the chipset, and killed the old one.
[03:07] <rabbitnightmare> https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Wireless-and-Networking/Realtek-8723DE-wifi-module-amp-Bluetooth-Linux-driver/td-p/6477307
[03:07] <rabbitnightmare> I mean its not a new wifi card
[03:07] <jhutchins> lotuspsychje: I think trying older versions of the OS/kernel/drivers is a step in the right direction.
[03:07] <rabbitnightmare> D/E/U all same same
[03:07] <jhutchins> lotuspsychje: Got anything else?
[03:08] <rabbitnightmare> E is europe, U is united states
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> dmesg in a paste could be useful
[03:09] <jhutchins> !paste
[03:10] <jhutchins> rabbitnightmare: Fire away.
[03:10] <jhutchins> rabbitnightmare: You'll have to dump dmesg to a file that you can access from windows in order to paste it.
[03:11] <rabbitnightmare> haha right
[03:12] <rabbitnightmare> I found an original build of popos for this laptop we shall see
[03:13] <rabbitnightmare> I wonder if I can pull the drivers out and put them in a newer kernel version
[03:14] <Guest96554> What's good?
[03:15] <rabbitnightmare> cinnamon peach cobbler
[03:15] <Guest96554> I meant whats up nigga?
[03:21] <MinusOne> Hi, I have an openvz vps running ubuntu 16.04. Is there an easy way to check if it is set up to receive extended security maintenance?
[03:22] <MinusOne> I.e., it claims to be up to date, is there a way to check for security update history?
[03:22] <sarnold> /var/log/dpkg.log has a bunch of detailed stuff..
[03:23] <sarnold> /var/log/apt/history.log is way easier to read but is probably apt only.. (probably everything, but not neccessarily..)
[03:24] <sarnold> "ua status" should report informatoin on ESM
[03:24] <MinusOne> sarnold, I have no ua package, nor an installation candidate. Does that mean I have no support?
[03:25] <MinusOne> well or a different package name. I will google and ask fewer questions until I have =P
[03:25] <sarnold> MinusOne: probably.. try installing ubuntu-advantage-tools
[03:25] <sarnold> that's the package that owns ua on my 16.04 irssi instance :)
[03:27] <MinusOne> Ok, that is the right package. I can now see my provider did not set me up with UA. Thanks for the help!
[03:27] <sarnold> sure thing
[03:27] <sarnold> there should be a way to get a free token for something like three machines on the website.. hopefully ua has enough breadcrumbs to get there
[03:28] <MinusOne> yeah I will check it out, I found info on Canonical's site also
[03:29] <sarnold> good good
[03:29] <sarnold> alright, I'm off, have fun :)
[03:29] <MinusOne> have a good one :-)
[03:29] <sarnold> thanks :)
[04:09] <leftyfb> MinusOne: you really should update. You're not going to see many updates to 16.04 even though ESM
[04:13] <MinusOne> leftyfb, the difficulty is that this is an openvz vps I rent. I am uncertain whether this is an upgrade path that will leave me with a functioning server. Also, this is a cheap file storage server I consider inherently untrustworthy, so looking for updates is more about best practice than real need
[04:14] <MinusOne> *whether there is an upgrade path
[04:14] <MinusOne> Everything I put on this server is either encrypted or I don't mind being public
[04:14] <leftyfb> setup a new VPS and migrate
[04:14] <MinusOne> leftyfb, yeah, but it is a super good deal for a terabyte of storage
[04:15] <leftyfb> they're giving a good deal because they're selling an EOL releasE?
[04:16] <MinusOne> leftyfb, I don't know how their deals are so good or why they don't want to upgrade. I would assume their is a correlation between lack of security and price. However, I did learn that I am on a supported and maintained kernel due to how openvz works. So it is just ( "just" ) package vulnerabilities that are a concern
[04:20] <MinusOne> I am gonna see if I can at least address package vulnerabilites with esm
[04:23] <MinusOne> yep, ua is getting me those sweet, sweet security upgrades. Yum.
[06:26] <Bernie__> hey you
[06:47] <Bernie__> motor control of how many
[06:47] <Bernie__> is it localuzed
[06:47] <Bernie__> or global
[06:48] <Bernie__> the motor pathways of humanoid hosts on ubuntu kernel
[06:48] <Bernie__> which kernel is tge forex slave trade?
[08:34] <fdfe> why doesn't ubuntu ever backports anything? no money, or because debian don't?
[08:41] <matsaman> Ubuntu has never had many resources to stray from Debian much
[11:48] <Guest69> what version of ubuntu supports wayland? 21.04 ? 21.10?
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> Guest69: most ubuntu releases have wayland now, you can find out by logging out and click the gear icon to see if its wayland or xorg
[11:54] <Guest69> is a particular nvidida driver version required to run? e.g., 470?
[11:55] <Guest69> i attempted to use wayland but just got my motherboard's bootup screen. i've been using nvidida drivers version 460. not sure if that's the issue
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> Guest69: i think they are working on wayland and 470, so yeah thats surely a test you can make, if your card allows the driver version
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> Guest69: ubuntu-drivers list will show you
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:41] <Nobrem> hi
[14:41] <Nobrem> how can I trick a program into thinking I have a higher GTK version that I actually have?
[14:41] <Maik> probably not
[14:41] <leftyfb> you don't
[14:42] <leftyfb> Nobrem: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:42] <Nobrem> 18.04
[14:42] <Nobrem> protonvpn-cli  won't connect
[14:42] <Nobrem> protonvpn  (the GUI) dislikes my GTK version
[14:42] <Maik> upgrade to 20.04 then if that's an option
[14:43] <Nobrem> Maik, this computer will get its funeral in ~2 weeks
[14:43] <Nobrem> Maik, so, not at this moment
[14:43] <Maik> then why bother
[14:45] <Nobrem> because even these 2 weeks are important for me
[14:45] <tomreyn> focus on making the CLI work, getting support from the software developers.
[14:47] <Nobrem> Can we try to find a solution for 10 minutes,  and then I write them an e-mail?
[14:47] <Nobrem> I am using the free version of the VPN,  so not sure how quickly I will get help there
[14:48] <Nobrem> setting the username and password worked and I am logged in
[14:48] <leftyfb> Nobrem: we cannot support 3rd party software, especially commercial software
[14:48] <Nobrem> the problem is the connection process.  -  No errors.   But it connects, like, forever
[14:48] <Maik> contact them since it's about their VPN and thus not Ubuntu related.
[14:49] <Nobrem> I wasn't aware,  #ubuntu  had such a strict policy.
[14:49] <Nobrem> thank you, bye bye!
[15:09] <Pricey> On Focal and all of a sudden shim is suggested for autoremove... this is a trap?
[15:11] <Pricey> Hmm but shim-signed stays.
[15:12] <Pricey> Aha, all intentional transision https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim/+bug/1921134
[15:12] <Pricey> *transition!
[15:36] <Hund> Hi! Is there some tool to assure consistency when doing translations, that anyone can recommend?
[15:50] <alkisg> Eh, most online translating services have consistency as one of their goals...
[16:40] <webchat77> On Ubuntu 20.04 Desktop in Settings | Appearance | Dock I have turned on "Auto-hide the Dock" and dock auto hide, this is fine. But I would like to turn dock on only if Super key is pressed and I would like dock to NOT appear if I move mouse to the left site of window. I have searched the dconf settings and turned on
[16:40] <webchat77> /org/gnome/shell/extensions/dash-to-dock/require-pressure-to-show settings, but when I move mouse to the dock dock appears automatically. As I said, I would like to turn dock on only if I press Super key.
[16:42] <jhutchins> webchat77: What make you think that's an option?
[16:43] <webchat77> jhutchins, the settings name. I don't know maybe there is some other setting to do the trick.
[16:44] <oerheks> Pressure threshold - Sets how much pressure is needed to show the dash.
[16:44] <oerheks> current 100
[16:45] <oerheks> i see no delay or something
[16:55] <webchat77> @oerheks, I have changed pressure-threshold from 100 to 1000 and it looks like problem is solved. Is there any recommended value to be set?
[16:56] <leftyfb> webchat77: personal preference
[16:56] <oerheks> webchat77, do some tests to find out, and share such on 'askubuntu'?
[16:58] <webchat77> @oe
[16:59] <Hund> alkisg: They probably have, but I would like to have an alternative to https://amagama-live.translatehouse.org which doesn't work anymore.
[17:01] <webchat77> oerheks, I have been playing around with this settings and values between 0 and 286 and dock is still displayed when I move mouse to edge. When value 287 or more the dock is not displayed on mouse move to edge. Interesting... Don't understand why 287 is the limit
[17:03] <oerheks> webchat77, that number does not give me a clue either
[17:14] <DTA72> hello
[17:15] <DTA72> i was referred here from Kubuntu/off topic as i installed kde/plasma onto ubuntu latest kernel release
[17:15] <DTA72> attempting pastebin
[17:18] <jhutchins> DTA72: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[17:21] <leftyfb> DTA72: you are having an issue with KDE/Plasma and you were referred here from #kubuntu?
[17:23] <DTA72> hello thank you all for your response... i had to register pastebin as the provided avenue was not available in my resource repository... https://pastebin.com/vVYjpr1G
[17:24] <leftyfb> DTA72: what is ROG "Republic of Gamers"?
[17:24] <DTA72> yes
[17:25] <leftyfb> that wasn't a binary questio
[17:25] <leftyfb> n
[17:25] <DTA72> its the screen that auto generates upon powering up
[17:25] <leftyfb> DTA72: what is ROG "Republic of Gamers"?
[17:25] <DTA72> ASUS motherboard
[17:25] <leftyfb> DTA72: ok, then you are having a hardware issue. Nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:25] <DTA72> ROG Strix B550-F Gaming
[17:26] <leftyfb> DTA72: try #hardware or contact Asus for support with their hardware
[17:26] <DTA72> i tried many times im getting no response... ive tried many different youtube vids and online resources to no avail... of course changes to bios settings and full update
[17:27] <DTA72> ok ty @leftyfb ill try that hardware channel chat
[17:30] <leftyfb> DTA72: it seems like you have 2 or 3 separate issues. The first is the "ROG" message. That is related to your Asus hardware and nothing to do with the operating system on the hard drive. You said the only way to get out of it is to reboot. I'm not sure how you're getting to the next problems though. "i can only login via. grub menu" and "with partial graphics functionality"
[17:30] <jhutchins> Actually, the ROG screen is probably a sign that we're not getting as far as GRUB.
[17:30] <leftyfb> yup, probably POST
[17:30] <jhutchins> It's not a hardware failure, it's success.
[17:31] <leftyfb> which can probably be disabled in the BIOS
[17:31] <jhutchins> I doubt the screen matters, what needs to happen is correctly picking up the bootloader.
[17:31] <leftyfb> I don't understand how they're saying the message pops up on boot and the only way to get out of it is to reboot. Then I'm not sure how any other problem exists if they can't get passed it
[17:31] <jhutchins> This is one of the rare occasions that I think reinstalling might be a solution.
[17:32] <leftyfb> yup, and if they want KDE, I could suggest installing kubuntu and not KDE on top of ubuntu
[17:33] <jhutchins> There shouldn't be any significant difference.  It's just marketing.
[17:33] <jhutchins> You should be able to have gnome, kde, xfce, lxde and whatever other environments you want all installed on the base OS.
[17:34] <leftyfb> except for the fact that people come here all the time with problems stemming from installing another DE and trying to go back and forth and one causing problems with another
[17:34] <jhutchins> Which suggests the problems are with the underlying system and not the Desktop overlay.
[17:35] <leftyfb> sure, but that means the differences are more than just marketing. It doesn't always work right for whatever reason. Installing the desktop you want from the beginning avoids those issues
[17:35] <DTA72> i hope this can help assist others when it gets worked out... https://pastebin.com/Y6Ym4cwn Thanks again
[17:37] <leftyfb> DTA72: you really shouldn't keep a running list of chats and present that as your issue. Again, it seems like you have multiple issues. Only 1 should be debugged at a time. Either way, you might save yourself a lot of time and effort just installing kubuntu from scratch
[17:37] <jhutchins> DTA72: You need to edit your post down to just your explanation of what the problem is without all of the spurious irrelevant text.  Did you try the kernel parameter that was suggested?
[17:39] <DTA72> i tried many times from usb stick... it requires windows os with all these different bootable drive programs and just got me very confused over the past months of trying to resolve this...
[17:39] <leftyfb> DTA72: installing ubuntu/kubuntu does not require Windows in any way
[17:40] <DTA72> yes i tried from command line/terminal install as well ... hence the only way i am even here right now
[17:42] <leftyfb> DTA72: you really aren't clear on the issues. First you say your machine doesn't boot, but now you're saying it does
[17:49] <DTA72> [11:47] <DTA72> upon the choices given upon reboot is hit delete or f2 keys to enter bios.... or wait until OS ubuntu kernel version choices are presented... so if i wait and dont make a choice of "recovery mode" boot it auto generates the *ubuntu which immediately goes to "ROG" screen and freezes
[17:49] <DTA72> [11:48] <DTA72> so the only way i am here is from recovery mode which does not fully load parameters of ubuntu
[17:49] <DTA72> [11:48] <DTA72> is that more clear?
[17:59] <tomreyn> DTA72: when you had only ubuntu installed, did the graphical desktop work well?
[17:59] <tomreyn> if yes: i suggest you reinstall whichever you want to have - ubuntu, kubuntu, or any other !flavour
[18:00] <jhutchins> So what channel do you go to if you have problems with the base OS that don't have anything to do with Gnome?
[18:00] <tomreyn> if no: i suggest you look for a bios upgrade and install that, and try again
[18:01] <tomreyn> jhutchins: here, as long as it's software from official ubuntu software sources
[18:01] <leftyfb> jhutchins: here. Unless the probably are pretty -server software specific, then go to #ubuntu-server
[18:01] <leftyfb> probably/problem
[18:01] <BarnabasDK> same kernel though
[18:02] <BarnabasDK> per release version
[18:02] <leftyfb> BarnabasDK: sure, but -server is usually best suited to problems with apache or mysql or the like
[18:02] <BarnabasDK> agree 100%
[18:04] <BarnabasDK> #ubuntu-server
[18:04] <BarnabasDK> I belive
[18:09] <WebChat53> Good Afternoon
[18:09] <tomreyn> hi WebChat53, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:10] <tomreyn> also, which web chat are you using (what's the http address?)
[18:10] <leftyfb> heh .. you were getting too personal :)
[18:12] <DTA72> working on this suggestion.... https://www.fosslinux.com/43836/fix-asus-linux-laptop-stuck-logo-screen.htm
[18:13]  * tomreyn quits
[18:14] <jhutchins> Stop trying to communicate with links.
[18:14] <leftyfb> DTA72: good luck
[18:15] <jhutchins> DTA72: Didn't somebody already suggest a BIOS update?
[18:19] <DTA72> thanks for the good luck wishes @leftyfb i will need it... @jhutchins i have already updated bios to current version
[18:20] <jhutchins> DTA72: So did that have any effect on your initial problem?  If you're past that, where are you now? (NO LINKS PLEASE).
[18:22] <DTA72> following the Fosslinux link and rebooting now to change grub entry
[18:22] <DTA72> if anybody has any other suggestions please send to lightsight2012@gmail.com
[18:22] <DTA72> Namaste
[19:01] <alkisg> Να'μαστε in Greek means "Here we are" :)
[19:04] <Maik> alkisg: so?
[19:04] <Maik> i probably missed something....
[19:05] <alkisg> DTA72 said "Namaste" which is an Indian phrase; the same phrase means something else in Greek
[19:06] <alkisg> It's nothing important, ignore it :)
[19:08] <Maik> alkisg: oh, right. I get it now. :)
[19:16] <webchat333> Hey everyone hope everyone is having a good Friday. If anyone is bored I could use some help. I have a late 2012 mac mini running Ubuntu server 20.04 and I installed an AirPlay mirroring server following this https://github.com/FDH2/UxPlay . Installed without errors and runs without errors however when I connect to it to airplay the screen stays at
[19:16] <webchat333> the tty1 login screen. I'm barely technically able. Do I need to install a Desktop Environment or ?  The only other thing installed is pi-hole with unbound and cockpit.
[19:32] <matsaman> webchat333: if you want to use a desktop environment, yes you'll have to install one
[19:32] <matsaman> webchat333: I believe the default one's meta-package would be called 'ubuntu-desktop'
[19:32] <webchat333> I don't want to if I don't need it for the AirPlay server to work
[19:32] <matsaman> if you wanted to take baby steps, you could install smaller bits to start with, though it shouldn't really matter either way
[19:33] <matsaman> webchat333: I wouldn't think you would need it, no
[19:33] <webchat333> hmm ok thanks
[19:33] <matsaman> webchat333: you can use sshfs or whatever to get data on/off
[19:48] <pycurious> how do i move ubuntu 20.04 gcc to 11.2 instead of 10.3?
[19:50] <leftyfb> pycurious: it's not supported
[19:52] <pycurious> leftyfb: whats the highest version that is supported?
[19:52] <leftyfb> 10.3.0-1ubuntu1~20.04
[19:56] <sarnold> pycurious: you could try the backportpackage command to backport gcc-11 to focal. it might build, it might not, dunno.
[19:57] <pycurious> When I fire: apt-get install -y python3-pip git cmake curl python3-dev  — it installs gcc-9 - and after that if i do gcc —version it gives me 9.x
[19:58] <pycurious> g++ (Ubuntu 9.3.0-17ubuntu1~20.04) 9.3.0
[19:58] <pycurious> any ideas how to get g++ default version to be 10.3 instead of 9.3 ?
[19:59] <leftyfb> pycurious: g++-10
[19:59] <cbreak> pycurious: do you have both installed?
[20:00] <pycurious> I want g++ —version to give 10.x not 9.x
[20:00] <cbreak> pycurious: then install g++ 10 first
[20:01] <cbreak> afterwards, maybe update-alternatives can help you.
[20:01] <cbreak> depending on how the g++ symlink is managed
[20:02] <pycurious> cbreak: sudo apt install g++-10 gcc-10?
[20:03] <cbreak> if your ubuntu offers that, sure
[20:03] <cbreak> mine only offers gcc-10
[20:04] <leftyfb> g++-10 is part of the universe repo
[20:04] <cbreak> and on my system, the g++ symlink seems to be hard-coded, not update-alternatives
[20:05] <cbreak> seems it's part of the gcc meta package here, and points to gcc-11
[20:05] <cbreak> so no update-alternatives :(
[20:05] <cbreak> pycurious: you can still make a g++ symlink earlier in your $PATH if you want, to overwrite that
[20:05] <pycurious> I think the python-dev packages install 9.3  - so am trying to install the -10 manually before - see if that has any effect
[20:21] <pycurious> $ lsb_release -ds —> Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS.  and — $ gcc --version gcc (Ubuntu 9.3.0-17ubuntu1~20.04) 9.3.0 - I tried apt install g++-10 gcc-10 - same output
[20:21] <sarnold> pycurious: ls -l `which gcc` will probably explain a lot
[20:22] <leftyfb> type -a gcc
[20:24] <leftyfb> pycurious: https://ahelpme.com/linux/ubuntu/install-and-make-gnu-gcc-10-default-in-ubuntu-20-04-focal/ found on google by searching for "ubuntu 20.04 gcc-10"
[20:25] <leftyfb> or not
[20:31] <leftyfb> pycurious: https://ahelpme.com/linux/ubuntu/install-and-make-gnu-gcc-10-default-in-ubuntu-20-04-focal/ found on google by searching for "ubuntu 20.04 gcc-10"
[20:31] <deadmund> I am looking for a program that can convert a postscript / eps file into a png or gif or some other "normal" image format.  I found https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man1/psconvert.1gmt.html  but the package gmt-common does not seem to provide that command for me on my system.  What am I doing wrong?
[20:31] <deadmund> apt-file show gmt-common | grep psconvert     outputs nothing?
[20:32] <leftyfb> deadmund: brother-lpr-drivers-laser1: /usr/Brother/lpd/psconvert
[20:32] <leftyfb> though not sure if that's what you want
[20:32] <deadmund> leftyfb: Probably not bro
[20:33] <leftyfb> that is the only package with psconvert
[20:33] <deadmund> I know
[20:34] <deadmund> Can anyone explain this documentation???  https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man1/psconvert.1gmt.html   It clearly indicates that there should be a psconvert in gmt-common
[20:36] <sarnold> deadmund: probably graphicsmagick knows how to drive ghostscript to do this sort of thing; I know imagemagick can, too, but it might be disabled by default in the imagemagick configuratino files because ghostscript is even more unsafe than imagemagick...
[20:37] <rfm> deadmund, I found an example of rendering to PNG in the ghostscript docs: https://www.ghostscript.com/doc/current/Devices.htm#PNG
[20:37] <rfm> deadmund, tho of course as usual with gs there are Too Many Options
[21:34] <familia> kelp
[21:36] <jhutchins> Something fishy about that one.
[21:36] <sarnold> :)
[22:19] <jimklo> Q: anyone know how to configure the ports for nlockmgr so they can pass through the firewall
[22:38] <jhutchins> jimklo: What ports?  What firewall?
[22:43] <leftyfb> jimklo: https://serverfault.com/a/377172   but also, I don't see nlockmgr in ubuntu at all. Also, I hope you're only running NFS locally and not over the internet
[22:44] <jimklo> @jhutchins lockd_tcpport/lockd_udpport and ufw
[22:44] <jimklo> leftyfb: only in private network
[22:45] <leftyfb> jimklo: if it's for a private network, then why do you have a firewall blocking any inbound access from other machines on the same network?
[22:46] <jimklo> it's complicated
[23:20] <toxic0> has anyone maybe written or seen a systemd config for ucarp that comes from the ubuntu repo ? I've been following this guide https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/ucarp that works more or less correctly but is still using the ancient /etc/init.d scripts...
[23:22] <jhutchins> toxic0: Nothing wrong with that if it works.
[23:24] <jhutchins> toxic0: Most commercial firewalls have that capability built in these days.  What's your environment like?
[23:33] <toxic0> jhutchins oh yes I use opnSense and it already has CARP for itself, but I'm trying to have a failover for my main reverse-proxy behind the opnSense box, and they are 2 ubuntu lxc containers running on different pve hosts
[23:34] <toxic0> I was not able to imagine a way where opnSense would check for port 443 being open on one of the ip of the reverse-proxy and assigning the first one in the pool to some VIP
[23:36] <toxic0> don't think it can be transparent like that for the lxc containers, if they have no idea they are master or not they don't know if they should answer to the VIP or not and probably the IP stack would drop these packets that are to the VIP
[23:36] <[newton]> where to go with new ideaS?
[23:37] <toxic0> I did not want opnSense to do the https decryption, so unless there is a nice solution to NAT the VIP to either of the nodes depending if they listen on port 443, I think my best bet is still ucarp running on each node
[23:37] <[newton]> no way thats facinating
[23:39] <toxic0> not sure waht to make of your comments newton
[23:39] <[newton]> comments plural?
[23:39] <ravage> pretty sure hes just a troll. ignore him
[23:40] <[newton]> how could you know?
[23:40] <[newton]> i could get annoyed at that
[23:40] <[newton]> teach me for sure but cut me off like that youre a troll
[23:41] <[newton]> a nick like that?!
[23:41] <toxic0> thx ravage, It's been a while since I was on irc, I know there are lots of nice people and lots of rules I migh overstep without even noticing, so I wanted to take car and not just swipe these away as they made no sens to me nor did they seem useful in any way to my situation or seemed addressed to anyone else specifically ;)
[23:42] <[newton]> so you obviously dont care in the slightest about people with mental difficulties
[23:42] <sarnold> toxic0: hrm, that guide is also using interface aliases, those haven't been necessary in twenty years or something
[23:43] <sarnold> toxic0: hrm, that guide is also using interface aliases, those haven't been necessary in twenty years or something
[23:44] <toxic0> didn't find anything more up to date sadly for ubuntu or debian, seems carp is nowerdays not something one does outside of firewalls :D
[23:44] <sarnold> could be ;(
[23:45] <jimklo> leftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9JdhKbymnB/
[23:45] <ravage> toxic0: its not from the ubuntu repo but maybe it still works? https://gist.github.com/larsks/5009872
[23:46] <ravage> also note the first comment about the service type
[23:46] <toxic0> well, at least it does seem to work and it seems to me a simple solution I can easily fix if something goes astray so I'll stick with that for now and ask at opnSense if someone got a better idea for failover.
[23:49] <[newton]> ok so no one here is interested in new ideas?
[23:50] <[newton]> fail
[23:51] <toxic0> thx ravage, had also seen another one like this but I was more tempted to try the one from ubuntu wiki first, never know with gists dating back from 2016 ;) Seems quite simple though, might try it soon, still need to test-out the --upscript option, ans as I'm myself not an expert in systemd, debuging with a init.d script is something I've done many times and feel comfortable, but moving to a unit-file will help me once times comes to try out ansible 
[23:58] <tusko> hello friends
[23:59] <tusko> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, and I've made a settings.ini file in $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/ as usual, but it doesn't seem to be giving me what I want.