[00:00] How do I get a dark theme like Adwaita-Dark to apply in this OS? [00:00] !eol | tusko [00:00] tusko: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [00:00] I can't update it, unfortunately [00:00] this channel does not provide for EOL releases of Ubuntu [00:00] * support [00:01] <[newton]> seriously, no one here is interested in new ideas? [00:01] <[newton]> what a joke [00:01] [newton]: you're probably in the wrong place. this is a support channel. [00:01] <[newton]> youre not sure whats wrong? [00:01] Its not surprising people wouldn't be able to help [00:01] sarnold: dont waste your energy :) [00:01] <[newton]> tell me theres a new idea channel [00:01] [newton]: all I know is nothing you've said so far tells me that you're in the right place [00:02] <[newton]> ravage: shut your trap [00:02] sarnold: thanks [00:03] sure thing; I was hoping being polite would save some effort; oh well === pop-os is now known as poop-os [00:08] anyone know if this is correct for an ecrypted parttiton https://i.imgur.com/m7x7jPe.png [00:11] !popos | poop-os [00:11] poop-os: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) === Guest3288 is now known as Leenux [01:19] hello, how do you install anbox modules [01:20] !info anbox [01:20] anbox (0.0~git20210106-1, impish): Android in a box. In component multiverse, is optional. Built by anbox. Size 698 kB / 2,792 kB. (Only available for amd64, arm64, armhf.) [01:20] Aarch64debian: there's some guides on https://docs.anbox.io/userguide/install.html [01:20] Starting with Ubuntu 19.04 binder and ashmem are now build with the standard Ubuntu kernel (>= 5.0) and you don’t have to install the modules from the PPA anymore. [01:21] oh nice [01:22] ls -l /dev/binder, no file ... [01:24] did you sudo modprobe binder and sudo modprobe ashmem first? [01:24] did you get any error messages from these commands? [01:25] were there any messages about it in dmesg? [01:25] yes, theres ashmem, no binder [01:26] sudo modprobe binder [01:26] modprobe: FATAL: Module binder not found in directory /lib/modules/5.13.0-19-generic [01:32] Aarch64debian: intereesting.. I see some of the ubuntu kernels have values set for this config https://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/ANDROID_BINDER_DEVICES.html [01:32] Aarch64debian: but some configs *don't* have a value for it [01:33] Aarch64debian: maybe try setting the binder.devices parameter to "binder"? [01:35] what should i do [01:37] Aarch64debian: I don't have a machine with a binder module around, so this is a guess... try echo binder | sudo tee -a /sys/module/binder/parameters/devices === nicolasbock_ is now known as nicolasbock === relipse_ is now known as relipse === DynamiteDan_ is now known as DynamiteDan === yarddogg_ is now known as yarddogg === znpy5 is now known as znpy === teward_ is now known as teward === nyany is now known as Duck === caverton5 is now known as caverton === mauved_ is now known as mauved === greyblue9_ is now known as greyblue9 === |avril is now known as avril === isnessness is now known as ugjka === Rhvs is now known as Rhys === tomaw_ is now known as tomaw === erica1 is now known as erica === yano1 is now known as yano [01:59] i got permission denied with tee binder [02:04] sudo tee [02:11] sudo tee -a [02:15] how do i say : if ubuntu_version == 20.04: apt install -y g++-10? [02:21] you can apt install gcc=x.xx [02:21] use specific numbers [02:24] i have dev/binder now, but when i use anbox, it says starting then closed after some time [02:24] that lets you select among multiple versions of the gcc package, but there's only one version of it available on focal [02:24] Aarch64debian: okay, that's promosing [02:24] promising? [02:25] 7010:CONFIG_ANDROID_BINDER_DEVICES="binder,hwbinder,vndbinder" [02:25] is that a command [02:26] Aarch64debian: the kernel configs that a setting for this variable have *three* values.. I wonder if those other two are also necessary -- try echo binder,hwbinder,vndbinder | sudo tee -a /sys/module/binder/parameters/devices .. and see if that makes a /dev/hwbinder and /dev/vndbinder [02:30] Failed to connect to socket /run/anbox-container.socket: No such file or directory [02:33] hm.. did you install the anbox snap with --devmode? [02:39] i did apt install anbox [02:41] hmm, if you're on focal, that hasn't been updated in over two years https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anbox === Agent_Isai is now known as Agent [02:41] it might be best to stick to the snap [02:46] pycurious: https://ahelpme.com/linux/ubuntu/install-and-make-gnu-gcc-10-default-in-ubuntu-20-04-focal/ found on google by searching for "ubuntu 20.04 gcc-10" [02:47] leftyfb: thank worked for me, thanks! === genii is now known as genii-core === float is now known as slowgrav === insane^1 is now known as insane^ [05:18] Hello, I'm having trouble setting up a samba share. [05:24] webchat66, does this help, https://adrianmejia.com/how-to-set-up-samba-in-ubuntu-linux-and-access-it-in-mac-os-and-windows/ [05:25] you can use nano if you are not familiar with vi. [05:25] I think I figured it out, I was using my partition and not the mounted directory in my home directory [05:26] *thumbs up* [05:26] I've been struggling with it the past week and 5 minutes after I posted here I figured it out [05:26] Sometimes helpful to air it out. [05:26] Thanks for helping! I usually don't get a very prompt response in IRC... [05:27] anytime [05:30] I had it working the first time I installed Elementary OS and installed Kodi. Then I had to do a fresh install to upgrade to Elementary OS 6 [05:30] It'll never be the 'year of linux' if you need to do a full reinstall to upgrade :D [05:30] Yeah, unfortunately there's not always a safe and clear way to update when distributions update. [05:31] Other than me forgetting how to setup my samba shares everything went pretty well though [05:31] cool === coc0nut_ is now known as coc0nut [05:39] Hey I'm trying to get sound to output on hdmi on 20.04 ubuntu server on a late 2012 mac mini. I've checked the forums and google but nothing works [05:46] webchat333: check everything that's [05:46] webchat333: muted in 'alsamixer'? [05:48] ﹾﹾﹾ﮲﮲﮲﮲﮲﮲﮴﮴﮵﮵﮶﮶ﮨﮦﮥ﮸﮸﮹﮿︡︡︡︡︡︡︡︡︡︡︢︢︣︣ﹰ︠︠︠︠︠︠︠︠︠︠︠︠ [05:57] matsaman: https://pastebin.com/xQ316eHV [05:58] kinda jumbled [05:58] matsaman only auto-mute is disabled [05:58] use left/right arrow keys, & tab key, look around for things that are muted, try unmuting them [05:58] ok [06:06] matsaman: ok I have found the device to play through hdmi is device hw:0,8. Can I set that to the default audio playback device ? [06:07] ~/.asoundrc would probably be one way [06:07] if you're using pulseaudio, and you probably are [06:07] you can maybe do it from the pulseaudio GUI configurator [06:07] which is called... [06:07] pavucontrol? [06:10] I don't have a DE I'm still trying to set the devices for the airplay mirroring [06:10] ~/.asoundrc is empty [06:11] oh right, airplay [06:13] hang on, the syntax is fsckin' bananas [06:14] I think I have a file that does it semi-handy though [06:17] ok it looks like pactl list detects it [06:17] hdmi-output-2: HDMI / DisplayPort 3 (priority: 5700, latency offset: 0 usec, available) [06:17] Properties: [06:17] device.icon_name = "video-display" [06:17] device.product.name = "SAMSUNG" [06:18] webchat333: maybe this: https://dpaste.com/E5MKGQ573.txt [06:18] webchat333: what's 'aplay -l' say? [06:19] https://dpaste.com/GCZ58HJQZ [06:20] yeah try what I gave you [06:20] The last entry card 0 device 8 is what I am trying to set as the default [06:20] so create ~/.asoundrc and put that in there ? [06:21] yeah [06:42] matsaman thanks that worked I get sound through the tv but no video. I only see the tty1 screen... is there a similar thing i can set for video ? [06:42] what're you playing video with, what software? [06:42] uxplay [06:43] https://github.com/FDH2/UxPlay [06:43] it uses gstreamer if that helps [06:46] what's the graphics device? [06:46] nvidia? [06:46] integrated intel [06:47] so you say play the video on some other device, like an iPhoo, and it's meant to play the video also on the TV? [06:47] correct [06:48] I get sound to the tv currently [06:48] and the ubuntu console [06:49] webchat333: what if you instal gstreamer1.0-libav [06:50] for some reason ubuntu shows 3 hdmi port but I only have one [06:51] gstreamer1.0-libav is installed i think i installed all of the gstreamer1.0- packages [06:52] webchat333: all these? https://dpaste.com/44FZP92NZ.txt [06:53] yea found in github issues [06:53] something there also about GST_DEBUG=3 [07:01] I found something about vaapisink needing x11. Does it start automatically on ubuntu server? [07:03] really X11 should not be on a server, so it might not even be installed yet [07:04] since this is a home/media server it's not a big deal [07:08] ok it looks like i have xserver on the machine but its not running and there is no $DISPLAY [07:11] webchat333: you'll probably want to install a DM, like lightdm [07:11] and configure it to automatically log a user in (thereby skipping the login process) [07:12] you might have to dpkg-reconfigure lightdm, or set up some different target or config for systemd to have it auto-start [07:12] but try simply installing it alone first [07:12] ok [07:13] basically if you do end up needing X & a DM [07:13] you may as well be using Ubuntu Desktop [07:13] but [07:13] yea... unfortunate [07:13] since you're not sure you need it yet, it could be worth it to just keep setting it up for Server [07:14] webchat333: so, yeah actually sorry [07:14] you don't need to make sure it all auto-starts correctly just to see if it works [07:14] just install lightdm and start it [07:14] or you can try 'startx' if it's there [07:15] I've no idea what just X installed comes with on Ubuntu [07:16] If you want to know, you can look at the .manifest file of the image. [07:16] *know that [07:17] it either comes with startx or it doesn't [07:17] if it doesn't I'd use apt-file to find it [07:17] or just install lightdm & use that [07:26] I have X11 but the config in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is empty [07:26] oh no [07:27] webchat333: the config is generated each time x starts [07:32] ok so adding startx to systemd autologin is a good idea or bad idea ?/ [07:33] you can set lightdm up to autologin, that is the proper way to do it [07:35] can I do it without a dm ? its only for airplay mirroring [07:47] i would do it the recommended way, i've had issues with startx on ubuntu === Zauberfisch_ is now known as Zauberfisch === denningsrogue6 is now known as denningsrogue === Guest3839 is now known as Znevna === b is now known as Guest6416 === webchat45 is now known as Johnn [11:03] how do I configure cups to keep more than the most recent 5 print jobs? [11:03] I want to keep say 5 days work of print jobs before it forgets them and just keeps the logs [11:03] worth [11:09] Hello, it's my first install of ubuntu, and I selected to use Secure Boot and gave a password to enroll keys. On boot I was presented with a MOK management interface and it was not clear what to do. System now boots without third party firmware active (eg NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it could not communicate with the NVIDIA driver. How do I re-do [11:09] the key signing step and do it successfully? Docs seem to be not detailed on this. [11:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot says, "Once the installation is complete and the system is restarted, at first boot the user is presented with the MokManager program (part of the installed shim loader), as a set of text-mode panels that all the user to enroll the generated MOK. The user selects "Enroll MOK", is shown a fingerprint of the [11:12] certificate to enroll, and is prompted to confirm the enrollment. Once confirmed, the new MOK will be entered in firmware and the user will be asked to reboot the system. " [11:13] But I did not see a fingerprint. I had a choice of continue, reset MOK, enroll key and enroll hash. The last two choices gave me a text based directory browser and I had no idea where to go. [11:15] What should I have done and how do I restart the process? [11:16] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MokManager : "This page does not exist yet." [11:24] any suggestions of where to go for help with Secure Boot / MOK Management ? [11:28] I usually disable Secure Boot instead of dealing with MOK [11:29] philip0, just hang around. I do what Jeremy31 does because I useually can;t access my system after a reboot and then freak out [11:30] I remember nvidia proprietary drivers just finishing startup because of secure bookt so I have windows with it and linux on NON uefi BOOT [11:31] here if something goes wrong you need to have a live boot or something at hand [11:31] which is a bit more trouble to remake from another system [11:33] secure boot is good but I find it hard to manage things when something goes wrong. [11:38] Everything should have been ok but some key was not installed in the BIOS or soething so the driver failed driver signing. [11:42] Has anyone done it successfully? Which option do you choose ? Enroll key or enroll hash? [11:43] did you have to choose a partition? Which one do you choose? Did you have to navigate the filesystem? Where do you go to? === ledeni__ is now known as ledeni [12:01] philip0: you should just need to enroll the key from mok manager [12:01] ok. how do I do that? [12:01] i don't usually point to youtube videos, but maybe it's the easiest here https://youtu.be/n8VwTYU0Mec?t=435 [12:02] and do you know if the to-be-signed key and info is in the EFI System Partition or elsewhere?\ [12:02] on the esp, i think [12:03] if things go well, i don't think you should get to see the mok manager at all actually [12:04] that's if secure boot is already enabled in enrollment mode, and you install ubuntu then, using the nvidia driver which it provides. [12:04] (and your uefi is properly done) [12:06] oh secure boot has an enrollment mode? I need to look at my BIOS more closely [12:07] enrollment mode is when no password is set, yet, and the ubuntu installer prompts you for it [12:07] philip0: your UEFI/BIOS might have an option to enroll MOK [12:37] Jeremy31, do you mean that is an alternative route or a necessary precondition? [12:40] philip0: some BIOS might not allow just any OS to add a MOK [12:41] My BIOS has several settings: 1. Enable Secure Boot: ON. [12:41] 2 Secure Boot Mode: Deployed Mode (Default) or Audit Mode [Perform signature check but does not block execution of all UEFI drivers and bootloaders. Use this mode when making modifications to Secure Boot keys. [12:41] 3. Expert Key Management Enable Custom Mode (Default:OFF) Allows the PK, KEK, db, and dbx security key databases to be manipulated. [12:42] It is not clear whether I need Audit mode, custom mode, neither, or both. Ideas? [12:44] if it helps, this is Dell BIOS [12:48] the first thing i'd do when i wanted to use secureboot is to upgrade bios to make sure (as much as you can) that it's not a buggy secureboot implementation [12:58] Good afternoon [12:59] hi Guest4 [12:59] I am getting "timezone database is corrupt" through PHP-FPM, I found it has something to do with the rights to /etc/locale. Anyone an idea how to solve this? [12:59] good idea tomreyn [13:00] Jeremy31, it turns out that with "Audit Mode" the MOK process proceeds as shown in the video, which it did not in "deployed mode". [13:06] philip0: good [13:07] Hi folks [13:07] oddly, nvidia-smi does not seem to exist on this second install. How do I query apt to find which package provides it? apt search nvidia-smi returns: gpustat hobbit-plugins libnvidia-ml-dev, which don't seem relevant [13:09] you'd need to install apt-file to search for files in packages oyu don't have installed. or use https://packages.ubuntu.com (scroll down for the file in package search) [13:14] great. [13:16] Hmm the OS said there was ~200MB of updates, and I needed to reboot to complete the update. I now see a splash screen (Dell) with ubuntu on the bottom, and it does not seem to be doing anything. Is the machine hung? === Marbug7 is now known as Marbug [13:17] I think I need to hard power down. :( [13:19] !sysrq | philip0 [13:19] philip0: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [13:19] but it may be too early for that [13:22] with the updates, I am getting lots of nouveau crashes in dmesg. [13:23] Should there be NVIDIA drivers installed? I requested third-party hardware in install. [13:23] if nvidia drivers did not load due to being non secure boot signed, the system would probably attempt to fall back to nouveau [13:24] or not signed with a key installed in the bios, more precisely [13:24] In my second install attempt I believe the keys were signed. [13:25] The MOK enrollment happened on boot after install. [13:25] philip0: check in terminal> lsmod | grep -i nvidia [13:26] null [13:27] nvidia-detector says nvidia-driver-495 [13:27] Jeremy31, no nvidia in lsmod [13:28] Can I undo the update? [13:28] you should not undo any system updates [13:29] does "find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -type f -iname nvidia.ko" show anything? [13:29] nothing. [13:30] then the module was not even compiled [13:30] try "ubuntu-drivers install" again [13:30] with sudo [13:31] ravage, thank you, much activity results [13:35] activity is a good sign i guess [13:35] reboot after that and see if the module is loadef [13:35] *loaded [13:41] ok, shutting down shows lots of nouveau idle timeouts [13:41] time: stalled at ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff [13:41] ok rebooting [13:47] hello I am not seeing my messages post [13:48] lib/modules/5.13.0.25-generic/kernel/nvidia-470/nvidia.ko [13:48] maybe initial / is trouble for IRC [13:48] philip0: is nvidia shown in lsmod? [13:48] how else can I test [13:49] in lsmod 6 lines [13:49] philip0: check in terminal> modinfo nvidia | grep -i signature [13:51] philip00 is my alter ego on the new install [13:51] # find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -type f -iname nvidia.ko [13:51] # lsmod | grep -i nvidia [13:51] nvidia_uvm 1052672 0 [13:51] nvidia_drm 61440 2 [13:51] nvidia_modeset 1200128 3 nvidia_drm [13:51] nvidia 35311616 90 nvidia_uvm,nvidia_modeset [13:51] !paste | philip00 [13:51] philip00: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [13:52] you can also use https://paste.debian.net/ or termbin.com [13:53] It appears I cannot send anything from the other anymore "Cannot send to nick/channel" [13:54] I have inadvertently offended the drones. It's my special gift. [13:55] Most humble apologies, o drone. [13:55] the module is loaded. so everything should be fine? [13:55] now just try the nvidia-smi [13:57] modinfo nvidia | grep -i signature gives a long hex signature [13:57] nvidia-smi gives prettyprint output [13:58] as long as it dertects your card that ok [13:58] philip0: Looks like everything is set [14:00] that's great! Thank you, this is the first distribution (out of FOUR) to boot and get video card, wifi, and bluetooth working. [14:01] happy to see that Ubuntu works for you :) [14:01] philip0, out of curiosity, which were the other 3? [14:03] 1. Fedora 35 Scientific worked the best on the live USB. First update was almost 1G and resulted in a borked system with both GUI and virtual terminals inaccessible. [14:04] interesting [14:06] 2. Debian worked well on the live USB, except the high resolution monitor was not supported, which did not interfere with the installation. The installation resulted in a system where the bluetooth was being started and stopped about twice a second. So workable but with a daemon keeping the system warmer than necessary. [14:07] 2a. The problem was the AX210 wifi and bluetooth card. So neither wifi nor bluetooth were available. Conflicting reports online regarding support in 5.11, 5.13, 5.15 and possible regressions in 5.15. [14:08] philip0, atleast you tried several distributions. Stick with what works unless you prefer the package manager of another distro, or their approach to updates, etc, the of course you can report and or help solve thos issues %) [14:08] the = then [14:09] <_srp> hello #ubuntu gurus [14:09] 3. Clearlinux worked great on the USB also. But its installer failed over and over again and I could not entice it to work. The error log was long ~60Kb and not illuminating. [14:09] <_srp> I have noticed my Ubuntu 20.04 (updated from 18.04) is getting slower by the day [14:09] philip0, now you have a working system %) [14:10] <_srp> I have memory- and hd-tested the machine, and noticed no hardware problems [14:10] Yes, thank you all for all your help! [14:10] <_srp> bleachbit also did not do a great job on speeding up the machine [14:10] _srp what does 'free -m' say? [14:11] _srp: there's no reason other than hardware issues that should could this, at least that's all i can think of. [14:11] should *cause* [14:12] <_srp> philip0, mem total 3801 / used 1892 / free 113 / shared 296 / buff/cache 1795 / available 1331 [14:12] <_srp> should be MB, right? [14:12] MB from -m [14:12] <_srp> cool [14:12] <_srp> the system was installed back in 2015, IIRC [14:12] Your system is probably memory constrained. [14:13] Do you use firefox or other heavy software [14:13] <_srp> I suspect over the years installations and deinstallations left some dirt behind, could that be? [14:13] <_srp> philip0, yes, my typical setup is firefox, chromium (multiple tabs), libreoffice calc and spyder3 open at once [14:14] _srp, I have seen, in the past, upgrading can cause some "constipation" not sure with your system [14:14] recent firefox eats RAM like never before. [14:14] <_srp> but it is taking minutes to boot up the machine and get to the desktop even before I load all these [14:14] _srp: those applications together could easily fill your remaining available memory [14:15] _srp: desktop or laptop? [14:15] <_srp> right now, I have firefox, hexchat, snap store, a terminal and a file manager open [14:15] Can you add more RAM? [14:15] so maybe you should do a fresh install. but also get more ram, if you can [14:15] agreed [14:15] <_srp> philip0, yes, I will. I have already ordered, waiting for delivery [14:16] firefox eats RAM and doesn't give much back until you quit it. [14:16] <_srp> I have noticed my /home/user folder is filled with .config directories... some for software I don't even use anymore [14:16] brave seems to use far less, at least here [14:16] <_srp> could I simply delete them? [14:17] _srp: if you know you no longer need them, you can delete them safely, yes [14:17] _srp Back up first somewhere safe, then experiment [14:17] tomreyn, types faster than I %) [14:18] just sometimes, coz ;) [14:18] <_srp> well, if I reinstall them, they should generate the default profile as if I had first installed [14:18] Thank you everyone for your help with the third-party drivers! [14:18] tomreyn, Laptop, big hands here, typically 2 finger typing [14:18] <_srp> tomreyn, for a fresh install, download the ISO from the site and follow the script, right? [14:18] _srp: yes [14:19] <_srp> ok, could try that too, if unavoidable [14:19] _srp: consider a backup of your data before you do that :) [14:19] _srp: make sure you install in uefi boot mode if your laptop support it [14:19] <_srp> thank you all for the insights [14:19] _srp, wait for your ram to arrive if you can [14:19] <_srp> ravage, I am a digital hoarder! I never simply delete anything ;-) [14:19] should not matter about the ram [14:20] the ram will be used when added. no need to wait [14:20] and you see if the reinstall alone made any difference [14:20] this is true [14:20] 4 GB is enough to install, and adding the ram later wont do any harm or result in a different configuration [14:21] the ram was my personal prefernce [14:21] 4 GB is ok but far from ideal. for any desktop use with multiple browsers 8GB is really a good investment [14:21] _srp: you can also try just creatign a new user account and then copy over only those settings you still need. but this won't speed up the slow boot, or fix any system wide problems. [14:21] i think a system from 2015 deserves a reinstall really :) [14:22] yes, even when you know how to clean things up properly [14:22] im still unsure about what to do with 22.04. upgrade or reinstall :) === oerheks_ is now known as oerheks [14:23] and the system is maybe 2 years old now. i still feel better on a fresh installation somehow [14:25] ravage, this is my prefernce, a clean install eliminates doubts [14:25] with some releases, there are some hard facts which make it worthwhile to do a fresh install, such as newer file systems on /, increased /boot file system size (if separate), newer LUKS encryption, ZFS etc. [14:25] <_srp> er... I have / and /home mounted on different partitions. So a reinstall in my / partition shouldn't touch the .config files, right? [14:25] it should not if you make the right choices during setup. but keeping /home keeps all the bloat :) [14:25] _srp: as long as you can ensure that /home remains untouched, yes. but ... have backups. [14:26] maybe rename your user directory and start with a fresh user [14:26] and copy over what you need [14:26] I would do both; upgrade and fresh install [14:26] as tomreyn said: make backups in any scenario :) [14:35] t [14:44] <_srp> 4.3GB of config files in /home [14:45] <_srp> still, that shouldn't be cause of slow loading... aren't these files accessed only when the corresponding software is launched? [14:45] <_srp> even the menu... I click on the ubuntu icon, it shows the spinning wheel for several seconds until the list of programs come up [14:50] What's the correct channel to talk about 22.04? [14:51] #ubuntu-next [14:51] thanks [14:52] _srp: if you prefer to disregard the recommendation given here (to reinstall), and would instead wantto go through the possibly very long process of trying to understand how you can improve the situation on the current system, you should start with sharing the output of the "dmesg" command, or better "journalctl -b" soon after a reboot [14:56] <_srp> tomreyn, not disregarding the recommendation, just backing up before the big jump (and while the ISO downloads) [15:01] _srp: i'm wondering what you mean by "i'm clicking on the ubuntu icon", because i don't think there is an ubuntu icon on the 20.04 default desktop. [15:02] A default 20.04 LTS desktop would look something like this https://i.imgur.com/dSt1NrK.png [15:05] _srp: what version of Ubuntu are you using? [15:06] <_srp> Maik, this is Ubuntu Studio on Xfce [15:07] you should have mentioned that [15:08] <_srp> lsb_release [15:08] <_srp> LSB Version: core-11.1.0ubuntu2-noarch:printing-11.1.0ubuntu2-noarch:security-11.1.0ubuntu2-noarch [15:08] <_srp> sorry about not mentioning the Studio flavor [15:09] tomreyn: ^ [15:09] upgrading ubuntu studio is not advised, due to changes to KDE [15:10] https://ubuntustudio.org/ubuntu-studio-21-10-release-notes/ [15:11] they upgraded from 18.04 to 20.04 if i'm not mistaken [15:13] <_srp> tomreyn, this is what my desktop looks like: https://imgur.com/a/CNYgBMP [15:14] <_srp> Maik, I have downloaded ubuntustudio-20.04.3-dvd-amd64.iso [15:15] <_srp> should be back in a few hours if I don't get the system completely messed up [15:15] <_srp> to let you know how the reinstall went [15:15] never heard of ubuntu slowing down over time, at least i never experienced that [15:16] <_srp> I'm thinking I will temporarily rename my current user folder, create a new user and move the data I currently use [15:16] <_srp> Maik, how about slowing down after dist-upgrades? [15:17] dist-upgrade isn't upgrading to new versions of a system afaik [15:17] unlikely [15:17] <_srp> last time was 18.04 to 20.04 [15:17] dist-upgrade doesn't slow down a system either [15:18] <_srp> malware, then? [15:18] https://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade [15:18] malware? lol [15:18] lol [15:18] probably a borked system caused by the user [15:19] could be possible [15:19] also note that "Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS will be the final release of Ubuntu Studio using the Xfce Desktop Environment. As such, upgrades from Ubuntu Studio 20.04 to later releases may result in breakage." [15:19] there's also #ubuntustudio [15:19] <_srp> bebop, hopefully I unwittingly caused the slowdown [15:19] <_srp> tomreyn, this means another reinstall sometime in the future, right? [15:20] probably, unless you install 21.10 now. [15:20] <_srp> any words on the Plasma environment? [15:20] <_srp> could try that, too [15:20] <_srp> download 21.10 [15:20] <_srp> install [15:20] _srp: i upgraded my system from 20.04 to 20.10 to 21.04 and then 21.10, it never slowed down [15:20] there is so-called "punctuation", it helps making more than one statement on a line line. [15:20] *single line [15:21] _srp: keep in mind that 21.10 is not a LTS release and it's support will end in July [15:56] whats the trick for finding old kernels ... the location old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/ doesnt group individual files that go with one kernel together, they are spread all over the place. I am looking for all the files associated with kernel 5.6.8-x , thanks in advance [15:56] they have like 100,000 files in one directory [15:58] transhumanist: why do you need an old kernel? [15:58] becuase it seems 5.6.8 is the one that has ipusb that works\ [15:59] transhumanist: mind you, anything in old-releases is EOL and not supported [15:59] ok a different question how do i find out which kernel version has a particular working module [16:00] transhumanist: "working". Is there a bug report that shows ipusb doesn't work on any modern or supported kernels or are you just going by your own personal experience? [16:01] transhumanist: if you find something that doesn't work, the answer should never be to revert to EOL software [16:01] this is the error https://superuser.com/questions/1597526/usb-ip-on-win10-1903-failed-to-open-usb-id-database even with the file in place on both windows and linux, also a second error [16:02] transhumanist: have you tried using ipusb between 2 linux machines? [16:02] no just between windows machines [16:03] it also gives on linux side usbip error portocol spec without prior class and subclass at line 23291 [16:03] that second error is on the linux side [16:04] transhumanist: I would test this between linux and linux. The error you posted is a problem with Windows, not linux [16:04] I can do that with wsl - ubuntu on windows connecting to my laptop and come back later, thanks for the tip [16:04] spcifically supported versions of ubuntu while you're looking for support on this channel [16:05] transhumanist: I wouldn't suggest WSL. That is a very non-standard linux implementation, kernel and network stack. All of which would verymuch add to the complexity of using ipusb [16:06] ok , that means I have to find a second machine for testing, guess a vm will do [16:06] I iwill use my debian vm [16:07] transhumanist: also, it can find very little information about "ipusb" nor can I find any package names or descriptiosns or files in any ubuntu package mentioning "ipusb". I don't think this is something that is supported in ubuntu [16:10] the superuser.com post suggests they're referring to https://www.kernel.org/doc/readme/tools-usb-usbip-README - but i don't see the Ubuntu relation, yet. [16:12] it is indeed a package on ubuntu [16:12] err wait maybe I installed that from a deb... nm [16:12] transhumanist: it's not [16:12] no sorry for the mistake [16:24] leftyfb thanks for the pointer it does indeed seem to work between ubuntu and debian ---just letting you know, it is indeed a windows issue, thanks I apprecate the help [16:35] I am currently using Ubuntu 20.04 and I am having a problem with connecting with some wifis but other wifis it will not allow me. It just keeps connecting and disconnecting. This is my 'lcpci -knn' output [16:35] https://pastebin.com/m8y1vyWk [16:36] lspci* [16:37] Guest92: is this Ubuntu 20.04 installation fully up to date? [16:38] tomreyn: Double checking right now [16:38] tomreyn: Yes everything is up to date [16:39] is the bios up to date? [16:39] journalctl -b | grep DMI: [16:40] https://pastebin.com/mKHcbriB [16:40] (you can already now try booting with: iwlwifi.11n_disable=2 ) [16:40] !kernelparm [16:40] To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters [16:41] tomreyn: Thats a bit out of my league on this. How do i do this? [16:41] Ah ok [16:41] Guest92: could you disable N [16:42] pasiz: If i disable network then I will have no internet access and will disconnect from IRC [16:42] I can do it temporarily though [16:42] Guest92: What URL for> iwconfig | nc termbin.com 9999 [16:43] https://termbin.com/hwpn [16:43] Guest92: do you have 2.4 and 5 on same ssid [16:43] Guest92: do> sudo iwconfig wlo1 power off [16:43] pasiz: not sure [16:44] Jeremy31: done [16:44] Guest92: Any chance the wifi that cause problems are using TKIP encryption? [16:44] Jeremy31: Its a possibility. [16:45] Jeremy31: Honestly not sure. Guest wifi [16:45] Guest92: so no security? [16:45] Guest92: power management could cause connection issues [16:45] pasiz: It has a password [16:46] Jeremy31: Let me check and see. Pretty sure everything is set right for power [16:46] pasiz: TKIP isn't that good, CCMP(AES) is better [16:46] bios version is already the latest as per https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-elitebook-8460p-notebook-pc/5056942/swItemId/ob-206569-2 [16:46] Guest92: so maybe WPA? [16:46] WPA2 [16:46] intel chipsets, linux and 802.11N is known to be buggy on that age hardware [16:47] I think 11n_disable=8 might work better [16:47]