[06:56] <knightwise> good morning
[07:17] <zxmpi> hi-de-hi
[07:30] <knightwise> hey zxmpi 
[07:30] <knightwise> hows tricks man
[07:32] <knightwise> Currently running through the moves of downloading some documentaries of Youtube I want to save for later
[07:32] <knightwise> and a ton of old TV shows
[07:32] <knightwise> very obscure stuff
[08:05] <zxmpi> i keep meaning to install youtube-dl but it always seems to be a very old unworking version when i try it
[08:05] <zxmpi> usuall use video downloader in firefox to grab videos from youtube.
[08:11] <knightwise> yeah zxmpi  if you install it from the repo's it seldom works
[08:12] <knightwise> i install it straight from the site
[08:27] <zxmpi> must give that a try sometime
[08:28] <zxmpi> seems media companies are trying to sue it offline at the mo
[13:21] <davef> OK, so I've never seen this problem before. I'm running an old PC headless, but when I shut it down it doesn't stay powered off. I don't want it running all the time. It will then power itself back on. Here's the weird part, if I leave a keyboard plugged in it will shutdown and power off. 
[13:22] <davef> And remain off.
[13:23] <zxmpi> wake on lan or some other similar thing?
[13:23] <davef> Thats all turned off
[13:23] <davef> I've also made sure all C states are available in the BIOS
[13:24] <daftykins> i've got a Dell that won't power off at shutdown, just comes back up again - tracked it down to some kernel regression but didn't do anything further on it 'cause it is more of a test bench box
[13:24] <davef> I'm wondering if it's the case with this too.
[13:25] <davef> There's nothing in the kern.log to suggest it's crashing
[13:25] <davef> I might stick freebsd on there to see if that does the same thing, at least then I'll know if it's a linux kernel bug or the motherboard
[13:26] <zxmpi> even a live usb distro to save the wiping of current system
[13:26] <davef> there's nothing on it except a bare proxmox install
[13:40] <davef> yup, linux kernel bug
[13:41] <davef> doesn't do the same thing on freebsd
[13:41] <davef> now i have to figure out what kernel I can use
[16:16] <davef> k, so i'll just roll with fbsd on that box. it's only running a couple of VMs anyway and bhyve can take care of that. VMs are ubuntu :) 
[16:17] <daftykins> wonder how XCP-ng would have fared
[16:17] <daftykins> not really ideal until their lite web interface is ready, mind
[16:20] <davef> yeah, that's the only off putting thing, if you want a webui, you need to install the orchestrator VM
[16:21] <davef> spinning up a vm on fbsd is easy. plus I was able to migrate what I already had on the other box with no fuss.. so there is that. i wanted to use proxmox because of containers too.
[16:21] <davef> but i might as well stick with jails
[16:23] <davef> and now i have christened that box with the name "badger", because I couldn't think of anything else. I'm going to call my VMs mushrooms.
[16:23] <zxmpi> and snake :-P
[16:24] <daftykins> oooooh 
[18:16] <davef> behold, the new office chair has arrived!
[18:17] <davef> (although I didn't get a shipping notice and wasn't expected until february)
[18:36] <zxmpi> it's a fake chair! :-P
[19:06] <daftykins> sorry i think that's my cat's one
[19:37] <davef> not for the price i paid it aint
[19:39] <daftykins> hehe
[19:41] <zxmpi> it's funny when humans think they own cat's stuff
[19:43] <daftykins> :)