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| Laibsch | Am I correct to think that at least in theory, packages python3-yaml and python-is-python2 should be co-installable and that it's a bug if they aren't? | 15:26 |
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| Laibsch | bug 1958720 | 15:26 |
| ubottu | Bug 1958720 in what-is-python (Ubuntu) "python3-yaml and python-is-python2 are not co-installable in jammy" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1958720 | 15:26 |
| tumbleweed | Laibsch: jammy doesn't have a python-is-python2 | 15:30 |
| tumbleweed | also the bug doesn't say *why* they aren't co-installable | 15:30 |
| Laibsch | Indeed, no such package | 15:31 |
| Laibsch | well, I am still looking into the exact chain of dependencies making them uninstallable | 15:31 |
| Laibsch | I came here to confirm if maybe this isn't expected behavious and the package having been dropped kind of hints at that | 15:32 |
| tumbleweed | python3-yaml has some extra breaks in it, to help upgrades: https://tracker.debian.org/news/1243453/accepted-pyyaml-531-5-source-into-unstable/ | 15:33 |
| Laibsch | The changelog for what-is-python states that python-is-python2 was dropped, but not the reason for it. As such, the what-is-python source package becomes kind of unnecessary, it appears to me. | 15:33 |
| tumbleweed | if you want a /usr/bin/python you still need python-is-python3 | 15:34 |
| tumbleweed | the reason it was dropped, is I assume to make it clear that 2.7 isn't supported any more | 15:35 |
| Laibsch | I still have some old python2 packages installed that are no longer part of official Debian/Ubuntu and as such, I could see an argument be made that my installation is unsupported. Then again, I'm wondering why from a logical POV python-is-python2 from focal has to be removed rather than keeping it as an obsolete package when going to jammy. | 15:35 |
| Laibsch | removed from the machine when going focal2jammy | 15:36 |
| Laibsch | tumbleweed: that would sound reasonable if there weren't a python2 package in jammy IMVHO | 15:37 |
| tumbleweed | that's the provides on python-is-python2 clashing with the Breaks on python3-yaml | 15:37 |
| JackFrost | python-yaml is a source of pain for people stuck with py2 stuff, yeah. :/ | 15:39 |
| tumbleweed | it wasn't intentional that those Breaks would break python-is-python2 | 15:40 |
| Laibsch | I figured out the path of breakage: python3-yaml in jammy breaks on python (<2.7.18). The python-is-python2 package in focal is version 2.7.17-4 and in impish it is 2.7.18-9 and since there is no path to upgrade beyond 2.7.18 python-is-python2 will be forcefully removed when going to jammy. | 15:52 |
| tumbleweed | we could remove those breaks in jammy | 15:53 |
| tumbleweed | I just removed them in git | 15:53 |
| Laibsch | did you put them in previously? | 15:54 |
| Laibsch | I just assume they were put in there for a reason | 15:55 |
| tumbleweed | the reason is described in the changelog | 15:59 |
| Laibsch | I just now found the commit and saw the "no longer needed" comment in the changelog so I will assume all is good and taken care of. Thank you. Maybe you want to reference LP: 1958720 in the changelog, tumbleweed? | 16:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1958720 in what-is-python (Ubuntu) "python3-yaml and python-is-python2 are not co-installable in jammy" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1958720 | 16:00 |
| Laibsch | I was looking in launchpad git, not Debian. Do you expect pyyaml version 6 to make it to jammy as well? | 16:01 |
| tumbleweed | it'll take a while before that hits jammy (it's the new version in experimental | 16:01 |
| tumbleweed | so yeah, if you want to fix this in jammy now, do an upload there | 16:01 |
| Laibsch | OK, I will prepare a debdiff | 16:02 |
| Laibsch | Thanks | 16:02 |
| Laibsch | tumbleweed: I prepared https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyyaml/+bug/1958720/+attachment/5556392/+files/1958720.debdiff and added the sponsors team to the ticket. | 16:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1958720 in pyyaml (Ubuntu) "python3-yaml and python-is-python2 are not co-installable in jammy" [Undecided, In Progress] | 16:22 |
| tumbleweed | I see those breaks missed focal, maybe it does make sense to keep that until the next Ubuntu LTS, I don't know | 16:25 |
| tumbleweed | certainly debian doesn't need them any more | 16:25 |
| Laibsch | Maybe it's best to introduce those Breaks to focal via an SRU, just to be sure? | 16:36 |
| Laibsch | and upload the debdiff to jammy as proposed | 16:37 |
| tumbleweed | too late for that, I think. But it could also probably be handled in the upgrader. Not really my realm of expertise | 16:45 |
| Laibsch | tumbleweed: same issue with python3-six (bug ticket updated) | 17:43 |
| ItzSwirlz | am i the only one playng with germinate (configuring ubuntu cinnamon seeds) and getting git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ not found? | 20:48 |
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