[07:44] <knightwise> good morning
[08:14] <zxmpi> o/
[08:31] <knightwise> heyhey
[08:31] <knightwise> finally got the old iMac i had lying around working again
[08:31] <knightwise> 27 inch display :) installed ubuntu on it
[08:31] <knightwise> its over 10 years old but with an SSD still runs like a charm
[08:32] <knightwise> just had to install the macfan package to keep the fans down
[08:39] <zxmpi> neat. how slow is ubuntu on it?
[08:40] <zxmpi> might a lighter distro be faster, more practical?
[08:40] <zxmpi> i hate seeing old hardware being dumped but there is a level below which it's no longer practical to be a daily driver
[09:05] <knightwise> its actually quite fast
[09:05] <knightwise> even those older dual cores still pull their weight
[09:06] <zxmpi> yeah, i give mac some flak for using old hardware but they do optimise their hardware very well to make a good overall system
[09:08] <knightwise> very true
[09:08] <knightwise> I even have an older snowbook lying around still running the latest buntu
[09:08] <knightwise> pop in an SSD, boost the ram and there you go
[09:09] <zxmpi> side bonus is that kids see them as a status symbol and care for them a bit better than random laptop. have seen macboos survive many students years in college whereas a hp/dell/acer barely lasts a year
[09:10] <knightwise> the macbooks we use here are for professional use and those babies LAST
[09:11] <knightwise> atm my little pi is grabbing some youtube mixes i need for livestreams.
[09:11] <knightwise> Got Tmux open on it, 6 windows happily chugging away
[09:12] <zxmpi> pis are the exception to the ancient hardware rule. small runs on sniff of leccy. you can always find a use for an ancient one that works
[09:12] <knightwise> the only pc brand that keeps on giving has got to be Lenovo Thinkpads
[09:13] <zxmpi> i think the framework laptops might bump them from their #1 pedestal
[09:14] <zxmpi> will have to see how long the company AND the laptops last
[09:16] <knightwise> brand ? 
[09:22] <zxmpi> https://frame.work/laptop
[14:03] <daftykins> core 2 duos aren't enough imo, got an old lemon one here (iMac) CPU runs about 70 degrees idle, hah
[14:04] <daftykins> in fact i am keen to get rid as i will likely get offered a much newer one soon, they're about only useful for creating macOS boot media, though i often do that from a VM 
[14:52] <zxmpi> probably when winter is over :-P