| === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy | ||
| marcoagpinto | morning! | 10:58 |
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| ducasse | good morning | 11:04 |
| Maik | not again..... | 12:10 |
| ducasse | history repeats itself, Maik :) | 12:12 |
| Maik | looks like it | 12:12 |
| Maik | :) | 12:12 |
| === unixlab is now known as nicoz | ||
| enyc | discuss channel for legacy releases we wonder | 16:59 |
| daftykins | huh? | 17:01 |
| DOSfan | does anyone have a bit of time to help be get a simple .desktop file to run? .. i've been at this for a few hours now | 17:02 |
| enyc | daftykins: well, potentially pointed here, DOSfan considreing outdated 16.04 system | 17:02 |
| enyc | not sure why they don't just spend the time to put in a supported 32bit system and not be being unsecured software and sent off to wrong IRC-server by default etc etc etc | 17:03 |
| daftykins | hours? people often say that but i doubt it | 17:03 |
| daftykins | 16.04 can still be supported via ESM with a free Ubuntu Advantage account | 17:03 |
| leftyfb | well, not really | 17:03 |
| leftyfb | you can't call Canonical for support with the free UA I don't think | 17:04 |
| leftyfb | you do get SOME updates, mainly major security fixes | 17:04 |
| DOSfan | gzzz I can't believe this, no help at all :\ | 17:04 |
| DOSfan | all I get is change your operating system .. thanks | 17:04 |
| daftykins | DOSfan: funny, don't you see people talking? update your release. | 17:04 |
| leftyfb | 18.04 supports 32bit and is still supported | 17:04 |
| enyc | DOSfan: why are you stuck with the 16.04 anyhow, this is a sesnsible question to discuss | 17:05 |
| enyc | it may be fixable there but seems a bit silly to spend time there without good reason | 17:06 |
| enyc | I'm asking a very sensible question, whats' wrong with putting in a MX21 32bit updated install and migrating over to that? | 17:06 |
| leftyfb | what is MX21? | 17:06 |
| enyc | then have updated and supported 32bit system, as ubuntu 32bit release over 3 years old etc | 17:06 |
| enyc | leftyfb: popular Debian Derivative | 17:07 |
| enyc | leftyfb: in a similar way to Mint and POP-OS being popular Ubuntu derivatives | 17:07 |
| leftyfb | ok, so absolutely nothing to do with ubuntu | 17:07 |
| leftyfb | 32bit is ancient. You can spend $35 and get a 64bit Raspberry Pi which would perform better | 17:08 |
| DOSfan | back .. reading | 17:09 |
| DOSfan | man this is so frustrating .. and yes i've been at this for almost 3 hours now | 17:10 |
| daftykins | and still no new information presented | 17:11 |
| DOSfan | same info : trying to get a simple .desktop file to run a wine application .. that's it | 17:11 |
| enyc | DOSfan: did you see you are missing a key question returning to you | 17:11 |
| daftykins | no, why are you running an old 32-bit release | 17:11 |
| leftyfb | DOSfan: ask in #winehq | 17:11 |
| DOSfan | daftykins : cause of the 32 bit CPUs I am using that's why. | 17:12 |
| daftykins | that doesn't explain why you're running 16.04 | 17:12 |
| leftyfb | :/ | 17:12 |
| DOSfan | oh ... maybe i'll try that channel then .. thanks :) | 17:12 |
| daftykins | troll in my book until proven otherwise | 17:12 |
| enyc | DOSfan: okay, so that leads to -- What's wrong with just installing MX21 or so, to have supported working 32bit system? | 17:12 |
| enyc | (or, rather limited time left ubuntu 18.04 32bit) | 17:13 |
| Maik | 16.04 32 bit? That's unsupported, EOL | 17:13 |
| leftyfb | enyc: it's kinda rude to come to #ubuntu-discuss and suggest installing another distro | 17:13 |
| leftyfb | Maik: 18.04 | 17:13 |
| Maik | ah, thanks | 17:13 |
| leftyfb | enyc: Ubuntu 18.04 supports 32bit and has 3 more years of support. That is what we suggest here. | 17:14 |
| leftyfb | but also, not using 32bit hardware | 17:15 |
| Maik | uhm, nope, 1 year | 17:15 |
| enyc | leftyfb: nods, though IME using older LTS tends to be limited over time, frustrating in ways... and as Maik says limited time left | 17:15 |
| leftyfb | oh right | 17:15 |
| leftyfb | either way | 17:15 |
| leftyfb | 32bit isn't going to be supported forever | 17:15 |
| leftyfb | it's well passed it's time | 17:15 |
| Maik | and 32bit does not get ESM only 64 bit :) | 17:15 |
| DOSfan | I take it no one knows how a .desktop file works cause ubuntu does not use it anymore .. even in ver 18? | 17:15 |
| enyc | DOSfan: As I've also said and you didn't acknowledge, may depend upon DE type | 17:16 |
| DOSfan | DE type? | 17:16 |
| leftyfb | DOSfan: you're not having a problem with a .desktop file. You're having a problem calling a wine application from a .desktop file. Completely different and frankly not worth the time | 17:16 |
| enyc | DOSfan: Desktop Environment | 17:16 |
| DOSfan | bbl | 19:49 |
| Bashing-om | UWN: Issue719 is now available: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue719 :D | 21:01 |
| marcoagpinto | guys?! | 21:30 |
| marcoagpinto | less than 3 months for 22.04 | 21:30 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 21:30 |
| marcoagpinto | I can hardly wait | 21:30 |
| rdr | I CANT WAIT | 21:31 |
| rdr | UPDATES UNTIL 2027 | 21:31 |
| rdr | I'M GONNA RIDE THE WAVE | 21:31 |
| Maik | turn off the capslock please | 21:35 |
| rdr | it was stuck on | 21:36 |
| Maik | 87 days until the release of 22.04 to be exact | 21:36 |
| * Maik uses the ubuntu countdown widget on his phone | 21:39 | |
| marcoagpinto | well there be an hybrid quantum/x64 chipset? | 21:51 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 21:51 |
| marcoagpinto | a 512-bit CPU | 21:51 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 21:51 |
| marcoagpinto | I have been meditating because Quantum computers will be very expensive | 21:51 |
| marcoagpinto | well there=will there* | 21:51 |
| sarnold | so far I'm getting the impression that there may be dozens of quantum computers | 21:53 |
| marcoagpinto | sarnold: really? | 21:56 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 21:56 |
| marcoagpinto | how much $$$$$$ will they cost? | 21:56 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 21:56 |
| marcoagpinto | this Qubits and measures confuse my mind | 21:57 |
| marcoagpinto | I believe a qubit can have more than just 0 and 1 | 21:58 |
| marcoagpinto | it will mess the whole concept we have of computer science | 21:58 |
| marcoagpinto | I am so scare | 21:58 |
| marcoagpinto | I am so scared | 21:58 |
| sarnold | marcoagpinto: heh, that's a great question. I've been assuming they're in the tens of millions range, though the sunk cost on them so far may mean they're far more than that.. | 21:59 |
| marcoagpinto | so, a hybrid 512-bit is a good idea | 22:00 |
| marcoagpinto | just like Commodore did when accepted CISC and RISC in their machines | 22:01 |
| marcoagpinto | I can't remember the name of the RISC CPUs they used | 22:01 |
| marcoagpinto | my brain is toasted... I got to bed at 7am, spent the night working on LanguageTool | 22:01 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhh | 22:04 |
| marcoagpinto | PowerPC | 22:04 |
| marcoagpinto | it was their RISC CPU | 22:04 |
| marcoagpinto | there were accelarator boards with PowerPT and Motorola 680x0 | 22:04 |
| marcoagpinto | PowerPC* | 22:05 |
| sarnold | oh hah | 22:05 |
| sarnold | I have a vague memory of a computer that was either x86 as the main system and ppc on an (ISA? PCI?) card.. or maybe it was the other way around, a ppc with an x86 on a card | 22:05 |
| marcoagpinto | sarnold: it was the Commodore Amiga | 22:05 |
| marcoagpinto | 1990s | 22:05 |
| sarnold | zounds | 22:06 |
| sarnold | commodore | 22:06 |
| sarnold | amiga | 22:06 |
| sarnold | x86 | 22:06 |
| sarnold | ppc | 22:06 |
| marcoagpinto | no | 22:06 |
| sarnold | just what the heck *was* that computer :) | 22:06 |
| marcoagpinto | 680x0 + PowerPC | 22:06 |
| sarnold | ahh | 22:06 |
| marcoagpinto | they were too advanced for the time | 22:06 |
| marcoagpinto | but they went bankrupted | 22:06 |
| marcoagpinto | I am still in contact with the guy who developed the Amiga chips | 22:07 |
| marcoagpinto | can't remember his name, he is my friend on LinkedIn | 22:07 |
| marcoagpinto | brain toasted | 22:07 |
| sarnold | cool :) | 22:08 |
| marcoagpinto | I commercialised my first software exactly when they went bankrupted | 22:08 |
| marcoagpinto | so, I didn't earn any money | 22:08 |
| sarnold | aww man :( | 22:09 |
| marcoagpinto | anyway, I am trying to commercialise an app right now | 22:10 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 22:10 |
| marcoagpinto | waiting for a reply from the company | 22:10 |
| marcoagpinto | there won't be a Linux version because I used Windows APIs and so the app can't be compiled on Ubuntu | 22:11 |
| marcoagpinto | it gives an error compiler, I have tried | 22:11 |
| marcoagpinto | compiling* | 22:11 |
| sarnold | wine? | 22:11 |
| marcoagpinto | it works on Wine, yes | 22:12 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 22:12 |
| marcoagpinto | the guy who is helping me with the ideas uses wine | 22:12 |
| marcoagpinto | not sure if he uses FreeBSD | 22:12 |
| marcoagpinto | but the emojis get corrupted | 22:13 |
| marcoagpinto | I saw screenshots | 22:13 |
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