[00:03] I tried doing: sudo ip link set wlo1 up but the result is: RTNETLINK answers: Input/output error [00:12] mmm [00:12] junebug: what's the wireless device? [00:13] matsaman, how do I find that? [00:13] maybe try booting from a previous kernel and see if the wifi works there? [00:14] Maik, can you walk me through that? [00:15] junebug: mmmm, lspci -k | grep -i wirel -A 4 [00:16] matsaman, nothing comes back [00:18] junebug: hrmmm, and with lspci -Mk? [00:18] matsaman, a bunch of "Cant open /sys/bus/pci/... [00:19] might have to sudo it [00:19] junebug: this a laptop? [00:19] matsaman, yes [00:19] hp [00:19] you haven't like, toggled the hardware wifi disable button/switch? [00:20] Intel driver [00:20] I tried disabling and enabling that but no luck [00:20] junebug: so, going back to Maik's suggestion [00:20] matsaman, yes. How do I revert? [00:21] junebug: if you look in /boot/ you'll probably see your old kernel in there [00:21] matsaman, I see a bunch of files there [00:22] https://gist.github.com/lodenrogue/3525a917779276eb77d86dc34373b72d [00:22] junebug: you don't need to revert but just boot from a older kernel if installed [00:22] junebug: Holding down the shift key while booting, will display the Grub menu. You can now select an older kernel version. [00:22] Ah ok [00:23] brb let me try that [00:23] if it works with old kernel, then it's simply a kernel issue you can probably fix fairly straightforwardly [00:23] or put off, etc. [00:23] ok [00:23] good luck because i'm off to bed [00:23] lawk [00:27] Hi [00:28] I am getting an error with a missing shared object file [00:28] ruby/2.7.0/gems/ffi-1.15.5/lib/ffi_c.so [00:29] hi CoolerX. which ubuntu release are you on? Which command are you running and what's its output? [00:32] anyone wanna help me with a simple awk problem? how do i get awk to recognize a field seperator that is , but one of the fields has a "" string with , in it? [00:33] I tried left shift but nothing came up. I used ESC and I could see the startup menu with BIOS as an option. Nothing about grub though [00:33] I went through the startup menus and didn't see anything about another kernel [00:33] lotharn: try #bash [00:34] Maik, matsaman ^ [00:35] junebug: do you know whether you're booting in uefi or (legacy) bios mode? [00:35] tomreyn, no idea [00:35] I saw something about EFI in the menu [00:36] junebug: so it should be set to uefi booting, then pressing escape is correct, but you seem to have done so a tid bit too early, bringing up the uefi's boot menu, not having loaded grub, yet [00:37] So I should wait for the Ubuntu logo to show up [00:37] Ok let me try that [00:37] it should be right before that [00:37] if that doesn't work out, you can actually tell GRUB to not hide itself, too [00:38] matsaman, how can I do that? [00:40] hi guis [00:41] junebug: https://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time [00:41] junebug: see the bit about /etc/default/grub, & update-grub [00:41] Coo. I'll try that brb [00:47] Ok now it's working. I had to revert 2 versions back [00:47] juno__: coool [00:48] matsaman, I saw only 3 versions in that menu. How do I keep this version around in case this happens again? [00:48] juno__: I doubt it will go anywhere, but you can back it up by copying it from /boot/ to elsewhere if you want [00:48] Ok [00:48] should be relatively small files [00:49] what I would probably do next, if I were you, if I had the time right now is [00:49] try a newer kernel version than the one you ended up on that didn't work [00:49] sometimes regressions just get fixed [00:49] Would I need to download and install the kernel? [00:49] if that doesn't work, you might have to compare the kernels and see what changed [00:50] in some manner, yes [00:50] unless there is an Ubuntu-specific archive for a more recent version of Ubuntu you could use [00:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel [00:50] I'll look into that thank you [00:50] it's not usually a big deal, building a kernel [00:51] Thank you as well tomreyn and Maik [00:51] it does take a certain amount of time usually on the order of 5-20 minutes to compile, depending on how many things you enable [00:51] juno__: does 'zcat /proc/config.gz | head' produce output? [00:52] juno__: if so you can use 'zcat /proc/config.gz | tee some/file.txt' to backup the current kernel's config [00:52] the configs are probably also still in /boot/ [00:52] so you can diff them pretty easily most likely [00:52] gzip: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory [00:53] I just copied every file that had the kernel version from the /boot directory to my home folder [00:53] It's like 4 files [00:53] config, System.map, initrd, and vmlinuz [00:54] I'm assuming that's all I need? [00:54] Hello [00:55] juno__: do you know which chipset this wireless is? [00:55] tomreyn, Intel [00:55] that's a company [00:55] tomreyn, sorry. How do I look that up? [00:56] lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999 [00:56] usually this would work if you have internet access [00:56] if you dont, remove the last pipe | character and anything following it [00:57] is this an internal wireless or one connected via usb? [00:58] Internal [00:59] and does this return a http address? [00:59] juno__: just the files in /boot/ yeah [00:59] https://termbin.com/xm1f [00:59] matsaman, thanks [01:00] juno__: and which ubuntu version are you on there? nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version_signature,cmdline}) [01:02] Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS [01:02] juno__: dmesg | grep -i intel [01:02] juno__: the above command would also have returned your current kernel version [01:03] which is? [01:03] https://termbin.com/euao [01:03] This is the kernal that works [01:03] kernel* [01:04] and the one which doesn't work is also a 5.11? [01:05] 5.13.0-27-generic [01:05] juno__: dmesg | grep -i intel [01:06] matsaman, which line? Lots of output [01:06] juno__: dmesg | grep -i intel | grep -i 'rev=' [01:06] [ 3.120351] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Detected Intel(R) Wireless-AC 9461, REV=0x354 [01:08] juno__: can you check whether you have pending updates? [01:08] tomreyn, nothing in apt update and apt upgrade [01:09] what about sudo apt full-upgrade [01:09] Nothing as well [01:10] you could share the output of matsaman's command [01:10] tomreyn, [ 3.120351] iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Detected Intel(R) Wireless-AC 9461, REV=0x354 [01:10] juno__: maybe this business: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205695 [01:10] bugzilla.kernel.org bug 205695 in Drivers "[iwlwifi] 9260AC crashes with lar_disable=1" [Normal, Closed: Code_fix] [01:11] various workarounds & patches mentioned [01:12] I'm glad it got resolved. Thanks again guys [01:16] AX2xx seems to have a firmware issue with this linux version upgrade, but i can't find anything recent on AC 9461 there [01:28] question : I changed my swap partition location and now on boot it's taking allot longer .. "a start job is running for udev-" and it says 1.5 minutes to complete .. why is it doing this? [01:29] DOSfan: did you fix up your /etc/fstab to match the new swap configuration? [01:30] DOSfan: did you run mkswap on the devices or files after doing whatever you did? [01:30] sarnold: hmmm no ... is it a file I edit? [01:30] I used gparted ... everthing went ok, I made the boot partition smaller as well [01:33] sarnold: okI have the fstab file open .. I do see on the boot part this ... errors=remount-ro ... is that the problem? [01:33] no, that's usual [01:34] what did you do to your swap? === justache is now known as justGhost [01:35] sarnold: I wanted the boot and swap partiton to be together (not a unused space gap), so I deleted the Extened part (which also had a seperate swap inside it) [01:36] sarnold: so now I just have a single swap partition on sda2 (originally the swap was under an extened partition under sda5). [01:36] DOSfan: ' sudo blkid | grep swap ' and make sure the UUID matchs in the /etc/fstab file. [01:37] ya and under 'mount point' it says 'none' [01:37] Bashing-om: ok i'll try that [01:38] DOSfan: Change a partition also changes the UUID. [01:39] Bashing-om: yes the UID has changed .. so just copy that ID into the fstab file? [01:40] Disconsented: Yeah - then to verify/propagate run terminal command: sudo mount -a . [01:41] wat [01:41] Disconsented: Sorry - not paying attention to my tab complete :( [01:41] DOSfan: ^^ . [01:46] Bashing-om: thanks buddy ... yup that was the issue. I would have thought that fstab file would have been updated by gparted with the new UID but I guess not. [01:47] back in a bit [02:20] hi guys [02:20] hello [02:20] someone from Brazil? [02:23] !br | fabricio [02:23] fabricio: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada. [02:52] does anyone here use tint2 for a program launcher? ... got a simple question but the #tint2 channel is kinda quiet [02:53] DOSfan: you should upgrade your EOL release of Ubuntu [02:54] leftyfb: it's ok now .. i resized the boot and swap partitions ... I removed wine ;) [02:55] DOSfan: it's still an EOL release that isn't supported here === genii is now known as genii-meeting [03:23] how do i mount an ubuntu directory on my mac OS drive? [03:26] pycurious: what do you mean exactly? Do you have a MAC drive plugged into an Ubuntu machine or an Ubuntu(ext4) drive plugged into a Mac? [03:27] leftyfb: trying to install fuse + sshfs now - brb [03:28] :/ === greknod2824 is now known as greknod282 === genii-meeting is now known as genii-core [04:15] hi [04:15] hihihihih === leaftype2 is now known as leaftype [05:29] Is there any way to upgrade an EOL version of Ubuntu (non LTS?). I have groovy and would like to avoid reinstalling everything. It doesn't seem to work with `do-release-upgrade`. How do offline upgrades work? I'm trying to find a way to go from groovy -> hirsute -> impish. If I boot with a hirsute ISO will I be able to upgrade my existing install? [05:30] !eol | canurabus [05:30] canurabus: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [05:30] canurabus: ^ short answer - yes. [05:31] But don't skip versions in the meantime, the upgrade path can be painful. [05:32] Will give it a shot, thanks. === pong is now known as beaver === pong is now known as beaver [07:11] hello. I have been trying to automate install of Ubuntu 21.10 desktop. All the information I could found online points to modifying grub.cfg to provide command line options to kernel. but for some reason I could not get it working. after the boot it lands in live session desktop instead of starting the install. any ideas? [07:17] Hello! I have two NICs; one gets a proper IP and the other one doesn't, on purpose. My problem is that `NetworkManager-wait-online.service` is in failed state. [07:17] Can I somehow tell network-manager that one connection to the Internet is enough, and that it doesn't need all connections to start before I'm "online"? [07:18] This in turn is causing other issues, like systemctl status saying "degraded state", openssh-server delaying its start etc [07:24] Hmm, it appears that removing `-s` from `ExecStart=/usr/bin/nm-online -s -q` from /lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager-wait-online.service does the trick. I wonder if this has any bad side effects or if should actually be sent as a bug report [07:29] alkisg: maybe setting ipv4.may-fail for that interface helps? [07:31] @ravage thanks; unfortunately that would mean that I'd have to create a connection for all interfaces in all my servers that are e.g. connected by mistake to a vlan and don't receive an IP from that interface [07:31] I.e. I'd prefer some solution where I wouldn't have to list any interfaces [07:31] and what do you need the service for? i dont use it on any of my servers [07:32] Some services depend on nm-online state; so e.g. openssh-server just starts later, and I think some may even not get started at all because of this [07:32] Depending on if they declared 'After' or 'Requires'... [07:33] you could just change ExecStart to /bin/true then ;) [07:34] That would make services start before an IP/DNS exist; so they might do the wrong thing [07:35] depends on the services of course yes [07:35] Omitting the -s works fine, but I'm worried why it's not the default... [07:35] In Jammy I see they added a new line: Environment=NM_ONLINE_TIMEOUT=60 [07:35] This doesn't help in my case, but it shows that someone else was bitten by a similar issue [07:38] Specifically, my best workaround so far is: systemctl edit NetworkManager-wait-online [07:38] And to put this in the override: "[Service]\nExecStart=\nExecStart=/usr/bin/nm-online\n" [08:06] I'm installing 20.04 onto a desktop. Can I format/partion my SSB hda with recommended defaults automatically? [08:06] SSD [08:07] partition .. sorry [08:10] I can see my 120GB SSD there as hda, and a 1TB there as hdb. It has Disks running from 18.04 booted from a usb. [08:10] Maybe the Ubuntu installation page goes into this. [08:14] It seems there's a Debian installer, am looking for a Ubuntu 20.04 installer. I'll keep reading. [08:18] ahc when I install 18.04 and other releases I use the manual option in the installer program and make 35 gig as / root and the rest as /home [08:21] Thanks Kilos With 18.04 on my boot USB, I might just connect to the 'net and click install. Upgrade to 20.04 soon thereafter. I'll watch for / root space. [08:21] and a swap file not a swap partition [08:21] ahc if you let it upgrade as it installs it takes long [08:22] Wow. First I've heard for the Swap file not partition. Hmm. OK. May re-do tomorrow, see how we go tonight. [08:22] good luck [08:23] a swap partition wears out the ssd much quicker than swapfile [08:24] Its a new 2nd-hand unit. So I must format / erase / partition the 2 drives I have. They've got all sorts on at present. [08:24] Just want an automatic install, default partition sizes, to start with. [08:25] https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-swap-space-on-ubuntu-18-04 [08:25] OK Thanks [08:26] first install 18.04 on the ssd then connect the other drives [08:27] I used to get mixed up with all the drives so do my installs directly to the ssd first [08:27] Got it. Thanks. Back laters. [08:27] good luck [08:33] "a swap partition wears out the ssd much quicker than swapfile" ==> why is that? They both use static disk sectors... [08:41] alkisg https://askubuntu.com/questions/652337/why-are-swap-partitions-discouraged-on-ssd-drives-are-they-harmful [08:43] hello. i have an issue with sound. it's working fine for a little while before i just hear i loud siren-like noise, which continues till i stop what i was listening to. any idea what the cause might be? it's an old atom processor laptop. i first experiences this in linux mint, and now in lubuntu [08:44] Kilos, and why would swapfile be better ? alkisg's claim stands, they both d the same thing and sit at the same location for their lifetime ... it would only help if you re-created the swapfile at each boot ... [08:45] else they are effectively the same [08:45] ogra I just follow what the clever people say [08:46] there is a difference I am sure. my ssd is now 3 years old and still working fine [08:47] and it was a second hand windows drive that crashed to bad to repair [08:47] even with a swap partiton yur controller has wear levelling and will try o compensate ... it is true that swap shortens the lifetime ... but thats rather something like from 10y to 9y with modern SSDs... you will likely not hit the threshold before you switch to a new disk [08:49] the only actually safe way would be to create a new swapfile at each boot (and keep the old one around until the new one is actually physically created, that way other blocks would be used) [08:49] actually when you install from 18.04 and later and let the installer do everything , as in not making your own partitions, it adds a swapfile automagically iirc [08:49] but that would slow down your boot [08:50] yeah but that is for different reasons (there was a long discussion on the ubuntu-devel mailing list before that switch) [08:51] (mainly fr more flexibility ... its ia a lot easier to resize a file on top of your rootfs than having to re-partition) [08:51] what did they say, I am old and cant keep up with everything, tech is advancing faster than I can read lol [08:51] even here when it gets busy I run away [08:52] heh [08:52] the answer of course is to have many gigs of ram [08:53] then no swaps are needed [08:53] well ... yu still want some swap ... the kernel actully takes differnt code paths in memory management without swap ... so your system might behave differently with and without it [08:54] aha ty for that [08:55] (you wont hit actual issues if you have a lot of ram, these differences are actually only hitting when you operate at the edge ... but we learned the difference the hard way with the ubuntu phone back in the days) [08:55] oh my [08:56] I learned how important swap is and how it speeds up your system on and old dual core machine with 4g ram [08:57] used to use free mem to monitor [08:59] if you are really struggling with memory, zram and zswap are very helpful BTW ... they create a swap file in ram and then use compression for it ... that way you get the advantage of swap but not the drawback of slowdowns a physical disk introduces [08:59] * ogra needs to go AFK now ... [08:59] thank you === unixlab is now known as nicozdeb === nicoz- is now known as nicoz [10:22] Hi, === diskin_ is now known as diskin [10:23] Is there an app that "just" sends alerts (desktop / phone etc)? There are many chat apps or meeting apps like discord or zoom but what if only an alert app is needed. In which everyone sees a list of people in a room and can simply send them alert. That alert should popup on desktop or mobile. [10:25] Hi there. I'm searching how to disable Ubuntu 21.10 shortcut Ctrl-Alt-D, can't find where it's defined since there are no search in the UI and it doesn't seems to be in dconf, someone can give me an hint ? [10:35] I'm good, the keyboard shortcut search do work for the key combination but is case sensitive [11:01] hi [11:02] anyone [11:02] ?? [11:02] i have a doubt? [11:02] anyone [11:02] ??? [11:02] don't have doubts. That is tedious. [11:02] !ask | konoha [11:02] konoha: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [11:03] iam a rookie [11:04] so where i have to start this? [11:04] i mean hacking [11:04] anyone? [11:04] https://www.eccouncil.org/programs/certified-ethical-hacker-ceh/ take a class. [11:05] can i beleive this [11:05] not when you have doubts. [11:05] ok [11:06] its not like anyone use ngrok so i should be careful [11:07] i will be leaving now === unixlab is now known as nicoz- [12:59] I have a recently purchased alienware notebook that came with a usb ethernet adapter that is getting recognized as a wwan0 device on ubuntu focal 20.04. I can see the usb network interface with ifconfig and I can configure by running dhclient, but network manager doesn't seem to recognize it as a valid device. The device is " ID 413c:b097 [12:59] Dell Computer Corp. USB 10/100/1G/2.5G LAN". The device name assigned to it is wwx0c3796......, wwx + the mac address. I have tried the oem and hwe kernels. linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04-edge/focal-updates,focal-security,now 5.13.0.27.29~20.04.13 amd64 [installed] and linux-image-oem-20.04d/focal-updates,focal-security,now 5.14.0.1020.17 [12:59] amd64 [installed] don't seem to recognize it as an ethernet device. Mostly what I care about is getting NetworkManager to work with it. When I run "nmcli device show" it is not in the list of devices. [13:25] greetings, is there any way to completely remove all logical volumes in one go? None are for the OS [13:54] hey how do I update nodejs [13:54] Hello, if I want to install Ubuntu on a brand new laptop that came with Windows, do I have to complete the Windows installation first or can I just install Ubuntu now from the USB drive? [13:54] and npm [13:54] on ubuntu 21.10 [13:54] ? [13:55] no idea liveacoustic , You might want to start windows once [13:59] @guest59 did you install them via apt? [14:00] sudo n stable [14:04] Hi folks === kvn_ is now known as kvn [15:03] if anything dash to dock breakes nautilus on 21.10 [15:04] I upgraded because people weren't supporting 21.04 [15:05] Hello, how can I get the versio [15:05] newest version of digikam? whats the easiest way, please? [15:06] !latest | Liblx [15:06] Liblx: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [15:06] Liblx: that said, version 7.5.0 is available as a snap: sudo snap install digikam [15:06] leftyfb: thank you very much! [15:08] leftyfb: how can i check the version before installing? [15:08] Liblx: well, I did tell you, but : snap search digikam [15:09] thx [15:09] i meant for other installations [15:11] other installations? [15:11] Liblx: if you mean for other releases of ubuntu, snaps are all the same regardless of the version of ubuntu [15:31] hy [15:38] How do you automatically connect to the home drive specified in a users active directory user object when logging into ubuntu using kerberos authentication? [15:39] Alslinet: which commercial application are you using on ubuntu to authenticate to AD? [15:53] i'm really hating Gnome where it's extremely unorganized and too hard for me to read the title bars for all the open browser windows or terminal windows i have [15:54] anyone here use i3 with their ubuntu? does it mess with the DE a lot? [15:54] what WM do you guys use if you switched away from Gnome? [15:54] gnome was good on 21.04 [15:54] I did not want to upgrade [15:55] you don't find it too hard to keep track of everything? [15:55] i can't see the difference between all the open windows and the title bars are extremely tiny [15:57] Hi. The other day I noticed that youtube stuttered while playing 60fps videos, depite the statistics saying that there were very few dropped frames, which do not add app [15:58] today I checked with glxgears, and the stuttering is very visible, despite showing constant 60fps. Apparently it affects the whole desktop environment [15:58] I use a laptop with dual GPU (Intel graphics and Nvidia MX150). I tried switching the graphics card, and even using the newest nvidia graphics, but the stuttering remains in all ocassions [15:58] I've been happy with KDE for a while now [15:58] but have switched to opensuse for desktop a while ago [15:58] Any ideas what could be causing it? [16:08] Hi [16:09] Is a command with "nohup" not saved in the bash history? I can't find my last command [16:10] Found it, it was the System Monitor extension for gnome. If I close it, the desktop is smooth again === genii-core is now known as genii [16:47] greetings, anyone know any good console contact managers? [16:49] iomari891: vim [16:49] heh [16:51] iomari891: apt-cache search address|grep book [16:56] !info rolo [16:56] rolo (014-4, impish): text-based (vCard) contact management software. In component universe, is optional. Built by rolo. Size 22 kB / 78 kB [16:57] Woet: That sounds worthy of a bug report. [16:58] i've been trying to set up a flarum for 3 hours. i'm going crazy. [17:00] nomercy: https://discuss.flarum.org/t/support <~~~ this is where you go for support with flarum === fling is now known as swing [17:01] nomercy: I see several posts on installing it,not much on setting it up. [17:02] Do we have a bot like judd that will list current package versions? [17:03] jhutchins: genii just did that above for the "rolo" package [17:03] hey gnome on 21.10 does not have transparent menu without effects [17:03] dash to panel extension breakes some applications like nautilus [17:04] and without that, I can't find how to not group apps [17:06] Ah, use the info function, thanks. [17:07] !info flarum [17:07] Package flarum does not exist in impish [17:07] jhutchins: it's not a package in ubuntu [17:07] apt or snap, in any version [17:07] leftyfb: Yes, I see that. [17:07] hello [17:09] !ask | badupgradedev [17:09] badupgradedev: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience === swing is now known as fling [17:26] question : web tells me that try here for Krusader help ... I cannot get it to launch in root-mode, I have read a bit on google and reinstalled krusader but same issue. Do I berhaps ned to install kdesu or some additional packages like libkf5su-bin? [17:27] DOSfan: upgrade your Ubuntu to one that is not End Of Life. Please stop asking for help with it [17:28] leftyfb: wrong this time .. newer OS .. same issue [17:28] DOSfan: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [17:29] leftyfb: allot of people have had this issue, regardless of the os version, check the web and look how many have had this issue. This did work once so it's fixable [17:29] DOSfan: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [17:29] DOSfan: just do as asked by leftyfb [17:33] DOSfan: it should be instant for you to run that and post the URL here [17:33] looks like they don't want to [17:36] wonder why that is [17:37] dunno, maybe they still run a EOL version? [17:37] it's a waste of time this way imho [17:39] So the current relase of krusader is completely different from older releases, and common problems don't exist and aren't solvable... [17:40] why even continue if they aren't willing to cooperate [17:40] I wonder if the changelogs show what has beenfixed, and if those patches could be backported. [17:42] DOSfan: I suppose you could do a temporary dual-boot or VM install of the current version of Ubuntu, and see if the problems persist. Then you would know if the assumption that simply upgraded to a supported version would fix it is true or just superstition. [17:42] jhutchins: they're running on i386 [17:42] they could upgrade to 18.04 but they refuse [17:43] leftyfb: i thought he was using 18.04? [17:43] nope, 16.04. 18.04 is still supported for another year [17:43] leftyfb: Upgrades aren't the panacea you seem to think they are. [17:43] They come with their own problems. [17:43] jhutchins: irrelevant. EOL isn't supported here [17:44] Heh. Maybe we need an "ubuntu-heretage" channel. [17:44] yeah that version is EOL and if DOSfan is too stubborn to listen and not willing to upgrade, support ends here. [17:47] Maik: hate to break it to ya ... but no one has helped me yet once. [17:47] DOSfan: because you're not running a supported version of ubuntu [17:47] anyway it's ver 18.04 ... also I read that Mint people also have this issue (newer versions). [17:48] DOSfan: and you are not even willing to do that what's asked [17:48] READ [17:48] gzzzzzzz [17:48] no you [17:48] DOSfan: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [17:48] do that ^ [17:48] fine [17:49] DOSfan: if you do that, within the next few seconds here, and you aren't lying, then people will be willing to help you [17:49] EVEN if I do that ... do you even have a solution ... allot of ubuntu versions have this issue as wll ... it does mention that it connot connect to a D-B [17:49] just DO it [17:50] DOSfan: and if not then please stop wasting our time and move on [17:51] ok then not, your loss [17:51] DOSfan: spending time googling for the output of those on google are we? [17:53] not gonna paste info to some web site ... here what is in the os-release file ... PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS" [17:53] nope, not what we asked for [17:54] oh well ... I'll just keep reading the web ... perhaps installing kdesu might help. thanks [17:54] DOSfan: https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-distros-with-32-bit-support/ [17:55] leftyfbno you asked to have information about a computer to paste to some external web site (terbin.com) , firewall prevents that sorry [17:55] no it doesn't [17:55] DOSfan: I would expect that mint and debian are closest to ubuntu. [17:55] anyway .. thanks again for the help [17:55] firewall prevents that... sure... lol [17:56] DOSfan: so you're on some network you don't control running a 32bit machine and that network just happens to block a very benign pastebin site that gets used quite a bit here? [18:07] Maik : yes blocked ... why would I want any traffic over port 9999 ... anyway I did answer your question regarding that os-release file. Oh well, PCMANFM runs fine as root so all it well. [18:09] do as you please but stop bothering us if you refuse to cooperate [18:10] Maik: nice reply. [18:11] ignore it is [18:14] Maik: actually I just ran root mode successfully from the Krusader menu, so it does work, good enuf. [18:25] webchat90: i'm guessing that (network-manager not listing the device) is due to the device name, which is non-standard. you will see such non-standard device names when a proprietary / vendor driver is installed and grabs the device. [18:27] Guest59: if you need a newer nodejs / npm version than Ubuntu 21.10 provides, you'll probably need to use the vendor / upstream apt repository (not supported here) [18:35] https://makezine.com/projects/diy-atlas-of-space/ [18:36] jhutchins: wrong channel [18:38] Yeah, I know, actually DOING something with Ubuntu is off-topic here. I considered posting an "oops" to also be off-topic, and noise as well, so I didn't bother. Thanks for making more of it than it needed to be. [18:40] * Maik shrugs [18:41] jhutchins: i know you've helped others here, which is appreciated, but this is the second off-topic link youposted here in two days out of nothing. so please don't. [18:42] let's use -offtopic for this. [18:51] hello. i learnt that red hat has 19K employee. how many employee does canonical have? [18:52] tesseract: the topic of this channel is ubuntu support (Q&A) for the listed ubuntu releases. your question might be suitable for #ubuntu-offtopic (but i would not expect an official reply) [18:53] how many employee is ready to help me in professional support then? [18:54] tesseract: do you actually have a Ubuntu support question? [18:54] it is a support question [18:54] it's not [18:54] yes it is [18:54] and you guys are boring [19:20] Anyone know what version systemd will be for Ubuntu 22.04? [19:21] axsuul: join #ubuntu-next for questions about 22.04 [19:21] Maik: thank you [19:23] Hi, I have a 2021 mac book air and I am trying to create an ubuntu flash drive. I followed the directions on the official website but now whenever I plug my drive in it says it's not readable [19:24] "it says it's not readable" -- what is "it"? [19:24] a notification pops up [19:24] i am not sure what you mean [19:25] ok so now I am not getting the error message but i am very confused by disk utility [19:25]