[00:45] <Eickmeyer> FurretUber: You might try asking in #pipewire on irc.oftc.net. Pipewire on Ubuntu is still largely experimental.
[02:48] <FurretUber> When I did the upgrade, pulseaudio was replaced by pipewire without me doing any additional change, so, at least when I upgraded,  pipewire was going to be the default for the next LTS. Is this still the case?
[03:50] <guiverc> FurretUber, don't forget jammy is still in alpha, lots can change
[04:01] <FurretUber> Yes, there are like 4 months (and 1 day) before release, so regarding time, I think it's fine
[04:04] <FurretUber> I wrote a huge text how I found nobody with the same problem, but then I did another search just to confirm and now there is someone else with a similar problem on Arch Linux. I hope Reddit links are OK here
[04:04] <FurretUber> The link: https://old.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/ps30ei/when_the_disk_ssd_is_under_significant_load/
[04:14] <guiverc> it's not release dates I think about re: time remaining; the freeze dates on schedule https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-schedule/23906 FurretUber 
[04:22] <FurretUber> I searched syslog thinking I would find just the moment, but there are a lot of messages: 111 overruns, 25 queue full, 20 operation not permitted, 3 segfaults. I'll have to test which ones happen with the heavy I/O
[04:24] <FurretUber> By the way, htop froze because steam froze because this Seagate HDD is at 60°C and, as it lacks S.M.A.R.T, it's making the entire system D.U.M.B. :(
[05:58] <tarzeau> my 22.04 installations, almost nothing changes... ymmv
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> i still got a few bugs need sorting on -desktop
[06:17] <tarzeau> which ones?
[06:17] <tarzeau> the only one i have is fail2ban fails starting
[06:18] <tarzeau> another annoying thing is policykit-1 can't be removed easily if you want to keep some packages that would perfectly work without the dependency
[06:19] <tarzeau> oh and all the /usr/libexec/*tracker* that keep starting (but the fix is as before, remove the binaries in regular intervals)
[06:22] <tarzeau> hdfview+singularity-container both so outdated that broken to use at all
[06:23] <tarzeau> what was annoying also with 22.04 for me was the ro mount of systemd-user-creator-tool
[06:33] <Bashing-om> tarzeau: Speaking of ^ - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2022-January/006371.html <- [USN-5252-1] PolicyKit vulnerability 
[06:37] <tarzeau> Bashing-om: how can i be affected, if i don't have policykit-1 ? the spirit of: https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode (should really package that)
[06:41] <Bashing-om> tarzeau: :D - while that works for lots of people - I prefer to patch and keep on keep'n on.
[07:14] <alkisg> Eh, nocode is buggy, it has 3.7k issues open
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> here's a few of my jammy bugs tarzeau 
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> bug #1949183
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> bug #1949065
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> bug #1958698
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> bug #1958191
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> gcompris also crashes on jammy, for those who wanna test bug #1944078
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> and bug #1959087 also segaults
[09:41] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: mind running strace funguloids? and store the last 500 lines in a file?
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: https://dpaste.org/aQDW
[09:44] <tarzeau> i guess 472-474 are the problem
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> (im currently on wayland)
[09:44] <tarzeau> check if it works with x11?
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> sure thing
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> oh it was the way around, i was on xorg, wayland also segfaults
[09:47] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: just wait for nbsdgames :) 
[09:48] <tarzeau> #1958505
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> bug #1958505
[09:48] <tarzeau> bug #1958872
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[09:48] <tarzeau> these are my bug reports for 22.04
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: need a reboot for fail2ban test?
[09:54] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: no,just restart the service
[09:54] <tarzeau> and can you confirm python3 --version says 3.10?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> 3.9.7.4
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> https://dpaste.org/8e2d
[09:59] <tarzeau> python3 --version
[09:59] <tarzeau> Python 3.10.2
[09:59] <tarzeau> wonder why it's 3.10.2 for me. and it only fails with 3.10
[10:00] <tarzeau> do you have jammy-proposed or not in your sources.list?
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> no, i dont fool with proposed myself
[10:01] <tarzeau> i see, well let's see what python3 will be at release day of 22.04
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[10:07] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: are you using shotcut or stacer? have you tried fnt?
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> stacer i got yeah
[10:08] <tarzeau> if someone has apfs or ntfs file systems, i'd like test users
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> i recall test fontmatrix for you previous lts
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> fnt your new project?
[10:08] <tarzeau> yup
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ fnt info
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> Information...
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> unxz: /home/lotuspsychje/.fnt/Packages.xz: Bestand of map bestaat niet
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> Available Fonts: 1482
[11:15] <Aarch64debian> sudo apt install --install-recommends winehq-stable doesnt work, my os is ubuntu 22 dev
[11:15] <Aarch64debian> help
[12:29] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: fnt update first
[12:31] <tarzeau> i get 1968, so should you
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> Available Fonts: 1968
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> worked
[12:54] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: do you have any iDevice ?
[12:54] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: try: fnt preview junicode; fnt install agave
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> no, samsung mobile here
[12:55] <tarzeau> ok because now ubuntu 22.04 has uxplay, which can use the mirror screen feature of idevices (like scrcpy can, but with audio)
[13:35] <Aarch64debian> !install wine