[00:39] <morganu> Aarch64debian, ok where do I find that?  This is something in Settings --> Screen Display --> Night Light not in another program. It come with the distribution.  (https://linuxconfig.org/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux0
[00:47] <leftyfb> morganu: did you look at the screenshot I posted?
[00:47] <morganu> did now.
[00:49] <morganu> thanks lefty, coulda bit me.  leftyfb
[01:10] <sybariten> evening
[01:43] <morganu> 20.04 I have installed mate desktop and xubuntu desktop (each in the -core version) and I never got a request about lightdm like How-To pages tell me I will get it.
[05:05] <Firefishe> I have a slew of kernels when I boot up.  How do I remove, completely, the kernels I absolutely do not want, keeping only the one that works the best out of all of them?
[05:09] <ravage> apt autoremove
[05:09] <Bashing-om> Firefishe: If ya going to pick and choose that is job for "dpkg" - to jeep the current and one under is "autoremove".
[05:09] <Bashing-om> keep*
[05:10] <ravage> autoremove will keep the the newest 2
[05:10] <ravage> That's usually what you want
[05:12] <Firefishe> ravage: Thanks for responding to me.  I'm using a lap-tablet (M$ Surface Book 3) that has a special kernel I need to use to enable the keyboard and trackpad and a host of other things.  apt autoremove would eliminate more than I want.
[05:13] <Firefishe> I guess I need to remove (--purge ??) the individual kernel image, headers, and modules, and/or extra modules packages of each one.  Does that sound right?
[05:14] <ravage> If you have custom kernels installed you have to manually remove the installed versions yes
[05:15] <ravage> But I don't think autoremove will remove your custom Kernels
[05:16] <Firefishe> ravage: Okay then.  Thank you.  I'll dive more into it.  That sounds correct, though.  I appreciate the assistance.
[05:32] <loganlee> hello i'm running ubuntu 20.04 LTS. if i switch to unity from gnome will it load all apps in ~/.local/share/applications/* and also have all the pinned apps on the left bar?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: when switching to a different DE, your installed apps will be still there
[06:35] <ashish> hi there... i have issues regarding python on ubuntu... can i get help here ???
[06:35] <ashish> hi there... i have issues regarding python on ubuntu... can i get help here ???
[06:39] <ashish> #python
[06:40] <ashish> hi there... i have issues regarding python on ubuntu... can i get help here ???
[06:40] <idkau> whats wrong
[06:41] <ashish> idkau actually i used wamp on windows... i want something similar on ubuntu
[06:42] <ashish> idkau ???
[06:42] <idkau> but what does that have to do with python?
[06:43] <idkau> you can install apache, mysql, and php easily on ubuntu
[06:43] <ashish> idkau: i tested websites locally using wamp in windows... i want to do same with python in ubuntu... locally develop and test websites
[06:44] <idkau> oh not php, just python
[06:44] <ashish> yes just python
[06:44] <idkau> do you know how to use apt-get?
[06:45] <ashish> i have seen videos... i installed this hex chat with the "sudo apt-get install hexchat^C"
[06:45] <idkau> sudo apt-get install python3-pip
[06:45] <idkau> sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[06:45] <idkau> mysql_secure_installation
[06:45] <idkau> sudo pip3 install pymysql
[06:45] <idkau> sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:46] <idkau> there is more. let me find a link
[06:46] <idkau> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-apache-mysql-and-python-lamp-server-without-frameworks-on-ubuntu-14-04
[06:46] <idkau> the same should work for newer versions but maybe skip the py 2.x part
[06:47] <ashish> idkau okay... pls wait... dont leave...
[06:49] <ashish> idkau... thanks for the link bro... i forgot about lamp... i will give it a try... thanks a lot
[06:50] <idkau> yOu are welcome. IMO its way easier than setting up on windows :)
[07:01] <ashish> idkau: i think i should use "django" or something else... m new in ubuntu... so this installation may get me into some trouble... i will read about "lamp" and also "django" and see what is betterfor me... thanks for the help... m leaving for now... take care... bye
[07:12] <DarkTrick> Latest Linux kernel 5.15 (and 5.13) does not boot on my PC. Have to start 5.11. Should I start worrying or wait a little and hope for a fix?
[07:14] <DarkTrick> I cant even see an error on bootup; it just doesn't get forward after showing HID information
[08:28] <Aarch64debian> !wine
[10:52] <Aarch64debian> help
[10:52] <Aarch64debian> so i did aptitude install wine, how to remove it totally
[11:00] <Apachez> apt-get remove wine --purge        ?
[11:01] <Apachez> note that above will only remove stuff part of the package itself (purge removes any configs)... but any files created by the application after install will not be removed (since ubuntu doesnt know which app created which files)
[11:14] <Aarch64debian> sudo apt install --install-recommends winehq-stable doesnt work, my os is ubuntu 22 dev
[11:14] <ducasse> !ubuntu+1 | Aarch64debian
[11:18] <mnhrdt> is it possible to "dump" the whole keyboard configuration into a single text file, edit this file, and then load it again?
[11:18] <mnhrdt> (possibly on a different computer)
[11:20] <badsektor> mnhrdt: of course it is, you just need to find that file, i am sure it is out there somewhere
[11:21] <mnhrdt> I want to create the file, from the current keyboard setup
[11:21] <ducasse> mnhrdt: not really, but you can use xkbcomp to create your own layout
[11:21] <mnhrdt> when I was a kid in 2005, I could "xmodmap -pke > kbd.txt"
[11:22] <mnhrdt> but I cannot find a xkbcomp equivalent
[11:22] <ducasse> xmodmap is deprecated
[11:22] <mnhrdt> I know, otherwise I would be happy using it.  Do you know if xkbcom offers a similar functionality ?
[11:22] <mnhrdt> *xkbcomp
[11:23] <ducasse> not that i know, which is why i said not really :)
[11:23] <mnhrdt> or setxkbmap
[11:25] <mnhrdt> ok thanks.  This is a bit sad still... xmodmap had such a clear and intuitive interface, I have trouble grokking xkbcomp
[11:25] <ducasse> yeah, many see it as a step back
[11:26] <mnhrdt> i mean, the common stuff is probably easier to do, but I like to change the position of particular keys all the time, and it's not very comfortable
[11:26] <ducasse> no, it's really clunky tbh
[11:29] <mnhrdt> (i keep using xmodmap for some things and it sort of works)
[11:29] <ducasse> until you run setxkbmap for example
[11:29] <ducasse> running any xkb tool will reset your changes
[11:29] <mnhrdt> ah, so that's it
[11:30] <mnhrdt> i have to run first setxkbdmap and *then* the xmodmap modifications
[11:30] <mnhrdt> i was really confused because it was not commutative
[11:30] <ducasse> correct
[11:30] <mnhrdt> did everything on a terminal, then copied all the commands inside a script (on a different order) and it didn't work
[11:47] <eoli3n> Hi
[11:47] <eoli3n> is ubuntu preseed the same as debian preseed with ubuntu 20.04 ?
[11:54] <leejones> Hello everybody ...
[11:55] <kostkon_> leejones hi
[11:55] <leejones> I've got my WiFi working on Dell Alienware, which you people told me couldn't be done.
[11:56] <leejones> And hello Kostkon_
[11:56] <leejones>  
[11:57] <leejones> And what's more, the people at Dell were telling me the same thing, so I really can't blame you.
[11:59] <leejones> ello Aarch64debian ... Your handle indicates that you shopped around for the best distro.
[12:00] <leejones> Did you try ArchLinux and Debian?
[12:01] <ducasse> let's stick to support issues, tru #ubuntu-offtopic to chat
[12:11] <DarkTrick> Kernel 5.13 gets stuck during to boot process. How do I figure out what's wrong? I couldn't make any sense of content of syslog
[12:11] <DarkTrick> Kernel 5.15 same
[12:17] <HHauser> this is common problem  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Initramfs
[12:26] <DarkTrick> HHauser, I guess that msg was directed at me.
[12:26] <DarkTrick> The site states "since kernel 2.6"
[12:26] <DarkTrick> I started having issues from 5.13; 5.11 works fine
[12:29] <HHauser> compare size of 5.11 initramfs to 5.13 initramfs, that's a problem I have had
[12:31] <DarkTrick> HHauser, the site is quite technical. How do I compare sizes?
[12:31] <DarkTrick> And how would I fix the problem?
[12:33] <DarkTrick> HHauser, size found in /boot. But just 600kb difference?
[12:35] <DarkTrick> (I guess this is a related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1958584 )
[12:36] <HHauser> 600kb could have some important drivers, do web search on how to make a big fall safe initramfs
[12:37] <DarkTrick> you mean "big fail safe"? <- HHauser
[12:42] <HHauser> initramfs-tools  generic modular initramfs generator
[13:15] <Grabunhold> hi guys. my ISP at work recently enabled ipv6, but my ubuntu-based firewall (systemd-networkd, iptables) fails to act on a prefix advertisement. i've set the policy for all ip6tables chains to ACCEPT just to be sure, but no success
[13:16] <Grabunhold> i'm not really sure how to debug this any further, i've seen the prefix advertised via wireshark and i can ping the remote sides link-local address
[13:17] <Grabunhold> i've set IPv6AcceptRA=1 in the interfaces systemd-networkd config
[13:23] <mrgains10> hello
[13:23] <ExileGhost> Hii mrgains10
[13:24] <mrgains10> first time here
[13:24] <mrgains10> me
[13:24] <mrgains10> jst found this grup
[13:26] <ExileGhost> mrgains10: welcome to the #ubuntu
[13:26] <mrgains10> thanks
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:28] <ExileGhost> Hii BluesKaj,
[13:28] <BluesKaj> hi ExileGhost
[13:28] <mrgains10> hi BluesKaj u in linus grup also right
[13:28] <mrgains10> sorry linux
[13:29] <BluesKaj> the #linux chat, yes
[13:30] <mrgains10> ok
[13:30] <BluesKaj> hi mrgains10
[13:33] <ExileGhost> aaruni: I feel 'aaruni' is a hindi name
[13:34] <Maik> mrgains10: hello and welcome, if you have a ubuntu support question just ask, casual talk is in #ubuntu-offtopic. :)
[13:35] <Maik> same for you ExileGhost :)
[13:35] <ExileGhost> Maik: got it. Thanks!
[13:50] <Tr1nk> hello
[13:52] <Maik> Tr1nk: hello and welcome, if you have a ubuntu support question just ask, if you just want to casual talk then please feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic. :)
[15:52] <webchat90> tomreyn: thanks for the suggestion.  The dell usb adapter was getting picked up by the wrong driver.   I downloaded the r8152 driver source from realtek, pasted in ID 413c:b097 into the appropriate locations in the .c file and compiled / installed the new module.  After reboot it still gets a crazy name with the mac address in it, but network
[15:52] <webchat90> manager will work with it now.
[15:53] <jhutchins> Congratulations! Two full hours of dead air!  That'll teach those darned users to ask questions here!
[17:52] <pikajude-> hi, this package https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/android-sdk-ext4-utils is in focal and bionic, but not in impish. is there a way to use the site to find out why that is?
[17:57] <sarnold> pikajude-: yeah..
[17:57] <pikajude-> nice, how
[17:58] <sarnold> pikajude: from there, find the source package name, near the top,  android-platform-system-extras
[17:58] <sarnold> pikajude: head to the launchpad source page for that source package, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android-platform-system-extras
[17:58] <pikajude> ok
[17:58] <sarnold> pikajude: then "view full publishing history"
[17:59] <pikajude> ok
[17:59] <sarnold> oh, hah, the source is still there in impish... I expected to see the source package gone entirely :)
[17:59] <pikajude> the second item in that list is something that says "Published", "Impish", "release"
[17:59] <pikajude> which makes me think i *should* see it in my apt search
[18:00] <sarnold> pikajude: okay, so, new tack :) we want the full changelog link instead, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android-platform-system-extras/+changelog
[18:00] <sarnold>   * removed packages removed by upstream: android-libf2fs-utils-dev,
[18:00] <sarnold>     android-libf2fs-utils, and android-sdk-ext4-utils
[18:00] <pikajude> what's the upstream?
[18:01] <pikajude> it has no repositories listed
[18:03] <kryten> pikajude: "Homepage" at the bottom of the sidebar on packages.u.c
[18:03] <sarnold> pikajude: the debian/watch file has this, in part: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/system/extras/+refs
[18:03] <pikajude> ok so *google* removed it
[18:03] <pikajude> that's less than ideal
[18:07] <kryten> Fwiw, what I did after realizing the source package is indeed still in Impish generally, is heading over to the Impish source package page on packages.u.c and there clicking on "Ubuntu Changelog" in the sidebar.
[18:08] <pikajude> yeah, i see, but android-sdk-ext4-utils has been removed
[20:00] <mannequin> ok i just istalled ubuntu on a new achine
[20:00] <mannequin> now it's stuck at the purple screen
[20:08] <tomreyn> mannequin: hi, do you have an ubuntu support question? if so, which ubuntu release is it about? which installer did you use (ISO file name)? were there any warnings shown before, during or after installation?
[22:31] <kenshi> hi
[22:31] <kenshi> hi
[22:32] <kenshi> hello
[22:32] <teear> que pasa?
[22:33] <jhutchins> 2.5 Hours!  New record?
[22:48] <kryten> jhutchins: I'm starting to seriously get the impression you are longing for something to do, aren't you? :P
[22:49] <junebug> kryten, aren't we all?
[22:50] <kryten> Nah, personally I can live without fulfilling Ubuntu support requests.. >_<
[22:50] <junebug> :D
[22:50] <kryten> But otherwise yes I'd agree!
[22:51] <jakes> hi folks
[22:51] <jakes> I'm running KDE (#kubuntu) on a "presentation" screen
[22:52] <jakes> I've set it up so that visitors can effectively use it as a bluetooth speaker
[22:54] <jakes> is there a way to have this "bluetooth speaker" do basic controls, such as skip, play/pause? ie. if/when I connect my mobile to the ubuntu host & play spotify (or any other media app) through it, be able to hit play/payse on the keyboard attached to the Ubuntu A2DP sink?
[23:18] <arooni> i have a ssd i pulled out of my now sadly dead thinkpad.  i had ubuntu 20.04 installed on it and set up whole disk encryption during the setup process
[23:18] <arooni> i now have another ubuntu machine i can hook it up to
[23:18] <arooni> how do i permanently decrypt it
[23:18] <arooni> i know the passphrase; not an issue
[23:19] <ravage> you have to mount it and copy the data to another drive
[23:19] <ravage> there is no decryption process
[23:19] <arooni> is this something that could be done via a virtual machine on my macbook?
[23:20] <sarnold> arooni: there's some notes on the arch wiki on how to do an in-place decryption, but there's so many warning boxes there that I'd personally go with ravage's advice and just copy it to another drive https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Removing_system_encryption
[23:20] <arooni> ok i'll go with the recommended approach
[23:21] <arooni> 'error unlocking /dev/sdc3 : failed to activate device: file exists'
[23:21] <arooni> pretty sure thats my correct password
[23:24] <ravage> try "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc3 mycrypt"
[23:24] <arooni> restarting fixed it
[23:24] <arooni> so paranoid when it comes to this lol
[23:25] <arooni> can i install an ubuntu vm on my macbook and pull the data from the drive to the host operating system?  or better to leave it mounted on an ubuntu machine i have around the house
[23:25] <arooni> and rsync the data
[23:25] <arooni> maybe would work better?  not sure
[23:25] <ravage> if you can attach the drive to this VM it should work yes
[23:26] <sarnold> you probably can pass the drive through to the VM, that's a fairly basic VM feature these days
[23:27] <arooni> should i use multipass
[23:27] <arooni> or
[23:27] <arooni> utm virtual machine
[23:29] <sarnold> sorry, I've never heard of utm; multipass should work okay, but it might be too opinionated for this. I'm not sure :( sorry
[23:32] <arooni> no worries; i'm outsie the ubuntu ranch a lil with questions like this
[23:34] <arooni> is multipass terminal only?
[23:35] <arooni> ah it appears so
[23:39] <arooni> what is a decent size to set up for basic vm stuff?  8gb of storage?
[23:40] <sarnold> that's pretty tight
[23:40] <arooni> ah well let me redo it before install
[23:40] <arooni> what would you recommend?
[23:41] <sarnold> hard to say :( I hear that our standard cloud baseline is 10 gigs, and it feels like I see folks troiubleshooting nearly-full filesystems a bit too often :) but those machines may have different needs than yours..
[23:41] <matsaman> arooni: what VM system?
[23:41] <arooni> yeah i'm not sure what i need it for right now but i do like mirroring my production server to make sure stuff works
[23:41] <arooni> maybe 25g?
[23:41] <matsaman> 30GB is like a _huge_ /desktop/ install, for reference
[23:41] <arooni> i have 1.5tb+ available
[23:42] <sarnold> yeah.. i've done physical system installs with 30gigs on / and never really thought about space :)
[23:42] <matsaman> so 30GB should always be enough, by a very large margin
[23:42] <arooni> matsaman : running UTM
[23:42] <matsaman> unless you want to store in the same spot like, enormous data for some reason, obviously
[23:42] <arooni> wondering if its smart enough to expand the size of the volume depending on usage; so it doesnt just write a 30gb file up front
[23:42] <arooni> virutalbox i think used to do that
[23:43] <matsaman> for ARM host?
[23:43] <arooni> yes
[23:43] <arooni> oh i dont know how arm stuff works
[23:43] <matsaman> at this point it should work about the same
[23:43] <arooni> i'm new to this architecture
[23:43] <matsaman> rarely you will find an app isn't available because it's arch-specific
[23:43] <matsaman> very rarely
[23:44] <arooni> what memory size would you give the vm?  i think this can be adjusted later
[23:44] <arooni> 8gb?  i have 64 available on the host
[23:44] <matsaman> there should only be a small performance decrease if it has to expand itself, negligible to a human I would think
[23:44] <matsaman> 8gb is pretty decent. What're you doing with the guest again?
[23:45] <arooni> now its just copying files; but i run some webapps on a 20.04 production server (x86 tho) so itd be nice to use it as staging/testing etc
[23:45] <arooni> down the line; not really concerned about that just yet
[23:45] <matsaman> web apps, you won't need hardly any memory =P
[23:45] <matsaman> if 8GB doesn't bother your host usage, fine, but you could probably dial it way back
[23:45] <arooni> copying files from an encrypted drive that died in my beloved thinkpad t420; had it for 10+ years
[23:45] <arooni> it was a workhourse
[23:46] <matsaman> to a very small amount of ram
[23:46] <arooni> *workhorse
[23:46] <matsaman> mmm
[23:46] <matsaman> nice when things last these days
[23:46] <arooni> cpu cores?
[23:46] <arooni> i think i have 10 of those available
[23:46] <matsaman> two is nice, but again I you could probably get away with the bare minimum
[23:46] <matsaman> and of course, you can change it later
[23:46] <arooni> maybe well start with 2; i think all this ais adjustable
[23:47] <arooni> yeah i can always dial it up
[23:47] <jakes> is there a way to have an Ubuntu Desktop (kubuntu) acting as a "bluetooth speaker" do basic controls, such as skip, play/pause? ie. if/when I connect my mobile to the ubuntu host & play spotify (or any other media app) through it, be able to hit play/pause on the keyboard attached to the Ubuntu A2DP sink?
[23:47] <matsaman> I feel like >1 core is the norm, so just for normality's sake, at least 2
[23:47] <matsaman> the norm for computers in general these days*
[23:47] <arooni> so 4gb ram / 30gb storage / 2 cores?
[23:47] <arooni> just to kick the tires in
[23:48] <arooni> glad i got the 64gb of ram on this; nice to have headroom
[23:49] <matsaman> jakes: I assume there is
[23:49] <matsaman> arooni: that sounds like a reasonable start
[23:49] <matsaman> 30gb will leave you tons of room, but with 64gb I'm guessing you have the space
[23:49] <matsaman> and you can always change things later
[23:49] <matsaman> with 64gb of ram* I'm guessing you have plenty of storage space, too
[23:49] <jakes> matsaman, can't find the how
[23:50] <jakes> can connect to ubuntu as a a2dp sink OK, but can't control playback
[23:50] <arooni> my wallet size was reduced severely; its all a trade off lol
[23:50] <matsaman> jakes: I think if it were me, I would play spotify from the GNU/Linux install, and control it via that install via the phone
[23:51] <matsaman> rather than using the phone to stream to the install
[23:52] <teear> I have 32 GB memory and swap is running out: http://teear.cbharraste.eu/desktop.png
[23:52] <matsaman> jakes: so fundamentally, for example
[23:53] <teear> Will my Kingston SSD handle it
[23:53] <matsaman> jakes: if I play something on spotify on my phone, I can also open the spotify web player (or desktop app) and control the playback from there
[23:53] <matsaman> jakes: so the technology is certainly there, whether someone's made a nice app for it or not
[23:53] <matsaman> jakes: maybe this: https://github.com/ledesmablt/spotify-cli
[23:54] <matsaman> teear: modern SSDs can take a lot of abuse
[23:54] <jakes> matsaman, that's what I'm doing at present, but it's a PITA if any other random person int he office just wants to press pause/play on a shared input device
[23:54] <matsaman> teear: if you're worried about your data, you need a backup system anyway
[23:54] <teear> I could just close some tabs maybe
[23:54] <matsaman> jakes: require some auth =)
[23:54] <teear> Yeah
[23:55] <matsaman> jakes: I like to make little webUIs for media computers like that
[23:55] <teear> I have nothing mission critical on the ssd
[23:55] <matsaman> teear: holy tabs
[23:55] <matsaman> misunderstood the point you were making =P
[23:56] <matsaman> jakes: so if this spotify-cli app works, you'd just map the commands to your media keys