[06:56] <knightwise> good morning everyone
[07:49] <zxmpi> o/
[08:02] <knightwise> heyhey
[08:25] <knightwise> playin with ncspot today 
[08:25] <knightwise> listening to spotify from dah commandline
[08:29] <zxmpi> never got into command line audio for some reason. 
[08:56] <knightwise> i love it . Stream me some soma fm via curl and stuff
[08:58] <zxmpi> not sure if it's that i can and do use android or an fm radio with nice physical buttons instead
[09:16] <knightwise> the audio quality on this old imac isnt great though
[09:16] <knightwise> but hooking up speakers to my rasp pi 4 isnt going to be ideal either
[09:35]  * zxmpi grew up with am/fm radio and is satisfied with... less :-P
[09:36] <knightwise> I hate radio these days
[09:36] <knightwise> started listening to podcasts in 2005, never went back
[09:41] <zxmpi> half my podcasts are radio shows
[14:29] <davef> Hi-de-Hi!
[14:29] <zxmpi> hi-de-ho
[14:29] <zxmpi> *bing* *bong* *dink*
[14:30] <davef> Don't tell Miss Cathcart!
[14:36] <diddledani> https://store.steampowered.com/app/1859290/Crypto_Miner_Tycoon_Simulator/
[14:40] <zxmpi> that is just... wrong? :-P
[14:44]  * davef mumbles something about crypto and goes back to his basement
[19:08] <knightwise> hey everyone
[19:09] <zxmpi> o/
[19:09] <knightwise> heyhey
[19:09] <knightwise> been mucking about with an old laptop this evening
[19:10] <zxmpi> how old is old?
[19:10] <knightwise> managed to revive an old panasonic toughbook
[19:10] <knightwise> its a cf 53 with a windows 8 pro sticker
[19:10] <zxmpi> always liked the toughbooks but way way out of my price range
[19:10] <knightwise> so .. i'm thinking about 7 years ? 
[19:10] <knightwise> yeah , they are pricey when new
[19:11] <zxmpi> what if they made a laptop that would survive what a nokia 3310 would survive :-)
[19:11] <knightwise> yeap I'm pretty sure that i can smack somebody to death with this thing
[19:11] <knightwise> (it has a handle)
[19:12] <knightwise> the screen is not the highest resolution, but the keyboard is nice and responsive
[19:12] <knightwise> and NOT reflective :) 
[19:12] <zxmpi> that's so if you forget your riot shield you can use it instead
[19:12] <knightwise> indeed
[19:12] <knightwise> + it has a serial port :) 
[19:12] <zxmpi> when you positively absolutely have to get data in AND out of a device 
[19:13] <knightwise> yeah , i'm probably gonna use it for when we do live stream productions on the road
[19:13] <knightwise> i need to do site visits to check the bandwidth
[19:14] <knightwise> so its perfect for that
[19:14] <zxmpi> don't have to treat it like a normal fragile laptop
[19:15] <knightwise> yep , kinda what it around a little and stuff
[19:15] <knightwise> I'm pretty carefull with my other devices :) 
[19:17] <zxmpi> i have used nokia phones as a hammer :-)
[19:17] <knightwise> hahah :) indeed
[19:17] <knightwise> I've been running budgie linux on it. 
[19:18] <knightwise> turning out to be my favorite mate alternative
[19:18] <zxmpi> never heard of it, looks interesting though
[19:19] <knightwise> I'm not a big gnome fan, and i've always been looking for something simpler yet elegant
[19:20] <zxmpi> i started a long time ago with xubuntu and have stuck with it mostly since then. would take a lot to move me to something else but it will happen someday
[19:21] <knightwise> xubuntu is pretty nice too. 
[19:21] <zxmpi> chosen because it's 'lite'
[19:21] <knightwise> i"ve never gotten around to KDE , just too 'much' for my taste i guess
[19:21] <zxmpi> i usually have bottem end of the spec list hardware
[19:22] <zxmpi> tried kde back in red hat 5.2 days. was nice, didn't go back
[19:22] <knightwise> I"ve installed it on a old imac too
[19:23] <knightwise> my sister in law wanted to throw it out. This way it still gets a second lease on life
[19:30] <knightwise> but the speakers are not that good under the linux drivers 
[19:30] <knightwise> too bad actually since a mac has awesome sounding hardware
[19:32] <zxmpi> in 80s and 90s i used to spend so much times getting sound working on pcs for games. now i care very little. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and i blame crappy web pages blasing audio and video
[19:51] <knightwise> yeah
[19:52] <knightwise> i've hardly played games the last couple of years. Recently reinstalled Duke nukem and return to castle wolfenstein
[19:52] <zxmpi> i don't have speakers attached to my desktop pc anymore. just a cheap eurostore headset. and a bt speaker near by if i want to listen to a podcast on them. otherwise no sound
[19:52] <knightwise> I played the new wolfenstein but these days games are just "too much"
[19:52] <knightwise> Same here. Jabra bluetooth headset and thats it
[19:53] <knightwise> its been YEARS since I hooked up pc speakers
[19:53] <zxmpi> i split my gaming between android shattered pixel dungeon and dumb nokia sodoku and boggle
[19:54] <knightwise> nokia soduku ? on what machine ? 
[19:54] <zxmpi> on my nokia 3310 (2017 version)
[19:54] <knightwise> awesome
[19:55] <knightwise> just found a whole box of old blackberries at work
[19:55] <knightwise> damn i miss those things
[19:55] <zxmpi> good for a 2-3 minute game and also helps me to spot when my brain isn't working right and it takes twice as long to finish simple puzzle
[19:55] <knightwise> I medidate in the morning (i try to
[19:56] <knightwise> that helps me focus these days
[19:56] <knightwise> work at one of the clients can be a liiiitle stressfull
[19:56] <zxmpi> unihertz pocket titan if you want qwerty android https://www.unihertz.com/products/titan-pocket
[19:56] <knightwise> yeah  i read about them
[19:56] <knightwise> but they are pretty pricey
[19:57] <zxmpi> mid range phones 300 shekels last i looked
[19:57] <knightwise> hmmm. doable
[19:58] <knightwise> sometimes i didnt even carry a phone in the weekend
[19:58] <knightwise> but now we need to show our covid pass app on our phone when we want to grab a bite to eat
[19:58] <zxmpi> well... when i'm carrying my nokia 3310 technically it's a hammer :-P
[20:00] <zxmpi> it could carry the covid pass as a pdf but might not work displaying qr code on screen so small
[20:01] <zxmpi> but it has games, ereader, a notepad, mini spreadsheet, fm radio, mp3 player and holds appointments and alarms well enough
[20:01] <knightwise> true. mostly all you need
[20:01] <zxmpi> and a battery life of days on a 5 year old phone that has seen a lot of usage
[20:01] <knightwise> i've ditched social media apps from my phone months ago
[20:02] <zxmpi> and no wifi so you're not tempted to just browse the web for ages.
[20:02] <zxmpi> also have google maps and street view working on it. or did a few years back. 
[20:02] <zxmpi> even if phone has no gps so you have to tell it where it is
[20:03] <knightwise> yeah , i've been watching out for those endless scrolling traps that eat up your time
[20:04] <zxmpi> very basic, very cheap, highly recommend
[20:05] <knightwise> i'm working on a little project where I try to use command line apps and make some flashcards with the right keybindings
[20:05] <zxmpi> index cards are super handy for that
[20:06] <knightwise> that way i'll try to commit some of those commands in memory