[00:31] <mar77i> hello. hostname -a would show domain names as they are added to /etc/hosts in ubuntu 18.04. On 20.04 I still add `127.0.0.1 thishost.mydomain.com thishost`, but hostname -a doesn't pick it up any longer?
[02:17] <pam21> test
[03:17] <dracolide> Hi. I'm planning to install a snap software of a production machine. Do snap packages still auto update?
[03:23] <leftyfb> dracolide: yes
[03:24] <morganu> HELPPPP! haha, using the Mate DE and the mic doesnt work and I cant see how to test it after I made it the webcam mic. (I have no clue what the default mic  would be) 20.04
[03:24] <morganu> Works on Gnome
[03:33] <morganu> also natural scrolling wanted
[03:51] <Znullptr> what is the best place to report a bug these days?   installer refuses to work if two disks have esp partition and the first isn't formatted to fat32 ; even if you explicitly mark it as DO NOT USE and the other is what was booted from
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> Znullptr: ubuntu-bug yourpackage, from terminal
[03:52] <Znullptr> ty
[03:52] <EriC^^> Znullptr: can you screenshot the error, sounds odd
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> Znullptr: adviced to state your issue in this channel first
[03:53] <Znullptr> that is the issue
[03:53] <Znullptr> can SS one sec
[03:53] <EriC^^> Znullptr: maybe at the bottom 'place to install bootloader' has the first disk?
[03:53] <EriC^^> ok
[03:55] <Znullptr> no it has the other drive set
[03:55] <Znullptr> what's the default hotkey for snip SS ?   or is there not one and just use printscr?
[03:55] <EriC^^> yup
[03:56] <Znullptr> text is `The attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in /dev/nvme0n1p1 at /boot/efi failed.
[03:56] <Znullptr> You may resume partitioning from the partitioning menu.`
[03:56] <EriC^^> shift+prntscrn
[03:56] <EriC^^> to snip
[03:56] <Znullptr> ty
[03:58] <Znullptr> https://imgur.com/a/uqeKP8m
[03:59] <Znullptr> https://imgur.com/a/7pLJ7XY
[04:00] <Znullptr> as you can see the drive is set to the one i'm installing to and the error remains the same
[04:00] <Znullptr> I can deal, but assumed i ought to report it
[04:01] <Znullptr> lol,  if i use ubuntu-bug and select installer i get an error too
[04:01] <Znullptr> Invalid problem report: Could not determine the package or source package name.
[04:02] <Znullptr> term says
[04:02] <Znullptr> "ERROR: symptom script /usr/share/apport/symptoms/installer.py did not determine the affected package
[04:02] <Znullptr> (apport-gtk:121794): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 23:01:54.025: gtk_main_quit: assertion 'main_loops != NULL' failed
[04:02] <Znullptr> <3  linux
[04:02] <EriC^^> you have to file it for ubiquity 'ubuntu-bug ubiquity'
[04:03] <EriC^^> Znullptr: im confused, in your 2nd SS it looks like there's one disk only?
[04:03] <Znullptr> how so?  it's just what is scrolled to
[04:03] <Znullptr> if this was discord and i could paste images it'd be easier
[04:04] <Znullptr> in any event ; i'll just format it manually and see if it ignores me and installs grub then , then i'll run grub install manually or just move the files and edit config if i must
[04:04] <Znullptr> just amusing
[04:05] <EriC^^> ok
[04:07] <Znullptr> wow
[04:07] <Znullptr> it was not to be https://imgur.com/a/Ex3ITrd
[04:11] <EriC^> yikes Znullptr
[04:11] <Znullptr> pretty much
[04:13] <noj> 'test' =)
[04:13] <Znullptr> gonna reboot and try again before i just debootstrap it or use another distro for the first time in half a decade
[04:13]  * Znullptr waves
[04:45] <morganu>  using the Mate DE and the mic doesnt work and I cant see how to test it after I made it the webcam mic. (I have no clue what the default mic  would be) 20.04 -- Works on Gnome
[04:46] <morganu> grrr.. must sleep now. will searchback on wake for any response
[04:54] <Znullptr> go it to install,  then added nv driver bc nouveau was horrid ... and first boot actually hung with primary screen set as a TV that was turned off ,  then fixed that and primary screen tinted heavily purple,  removed monitor profile : didn't work ,  changed to all blue profile and then back no none and it work.   I have to say,  much more
[04:54] <Znullptr> buggy than last time.
[05:01] <matsaman> nvidia isn't very reliable indeed
[08:15] <illia> hi morning everybody
[08:18] <illia> how about hacking anybody wants to discuss
[08:18] <ducasse> !ot
[10:00] <tuxinator> Any best practice out there, how to achieve downgrade/upgrade/fixed version capability by keeping old packages in a repo (our custom repo with our software) ?
[10:04] <ducasse> apt doesn't really support downgrades
[10:26] <tuxinator> ducasse: well you can install a specific version, so it does ;-) https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/02/how-to-downgrade-packages-to-specific.html
[10:26] <tuxinator> my question is more how to keep the old versions available in the repo while adding new ones
[10:27] <tuxinator> as now the olds disappear from list after adding the latest one
[10:27] <ducasse> tuxinator: what i mean it is not's supported behavior
[10:27] <tuxinator> apt install version= is not supported?
[10:27] <tuxinator> what are you talking about
[10:28] <tuxinator> back soon
[10:31] <ducasse> i was talking about downgrading from for example focal to bionic, sorry i misread you
[10:33] <ducasse> as for how a custom repo deals with old versions i've never tried, most stop serving them on an update
[11:25] <tuxinator> ducasse: ok, so just a misunderstanding :D
[13:24] <zeeshan> I am using ubuntu for 2 months. I am unable to open ubuntu center in 20.04
[13:28] <zeeshan> when I apply " sudo apt-get install software-center"    I receive this message
[13:28] <zeeshan> package software-center is not available, but is reffered to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[13:29] <Maik> software center is already installed by default and it's a snap package iirc
[13:30] <zeeshan> my ubuntu center Icon is present but not opening ubuntu center
[13:32] <zeeshan> Ubuntu Software not opening
[13:33] <Maik> should work
[13:33] <KBar> zeeshan: Ubuntu version?
[13:34] <zeeshan> 20.04
[13:35] <tomreyn> zeeshan: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1344650/cant-open-snap-store
[13:41] <marc__> Hi my machine startes up and when i type cat /proc/sys/vm/max_map_count it says 1048576 but in /etc/sysctl.conf i got vm.max_map_count=1073741824 so why isnt it setting the value in sysctl.conf
[13:42] <marc__> This is for DayZ the game seems to work better on the higher value
[13:42] <zeeshan> how  refresh updates in ubuntu 20.04
[13:42] <Maik> zeeshan: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[13:43] <KBar> zeeshan: click on "Activities" and type in "Help". It will open user guide. From there, you can search for "updates" and learn about it.
[13:45] <Maik> zeeshan: or simply use the software updater
[13:47] <marc__> its ok dont bother i just fixed the issue with vm.max_map_count
[13:47] <KBar> zeeshan: or just launch the "Software Updater" app.
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:48] <Maik> KBar: i already kinda said that....
[13:51] <marc__> anyone know how to update the firmware on an nvme as i cant use corsairs ssd toolbox and i dont have ms windows
[13:51] <marc__> I fact i dont have the firmware neither even after arguing with corsair idiot support
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> marc__: not sure if that would work, perhaps running that toolbox over wine?
[14:11] <marc__> didnt work tried that already
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> samsung magician is also a no go, needs a win box
[14:45] <iomari891> greetings, How can I install mariadb 10.6.5 on ubuntu 21.10?
[15:01] <ducasse> !info mariadb-server
[15:03] <ducasse> iomari891: ^^ that is the supported version, if you want something newer you need to look for a third party repo
[15:36] <kristian_on_linu> hi
[15:38] <EriC^^> hello
[15:40] <KBar> kristian_on_linu: hello and welcome. How can we help you?
[15:50] <kristian_on_linu> can someone recommend an antivirus program that updates/runs automatically and has a GUI? ... and please don't tell me that I don't need it :)
[15:55] <marc__> Cant ever remember the last time i used anti virus i havent used it in 10 years lolz
[15:56] <marc__> didnt even run anti virus on windows 10 when i had it.
[15:57] <Maik> kristian_on_linu: you actually don't need a anti virus on Ubuntu or Linux in general, the reports are false positive anyway
[15:57] <kristian_on_linu> Maik, the that was really not the question
[15:58] <Maik> still it is as is
[15:58] <Maik> if you want a anti virus use clam-av
[15:58] <kristian_on_linu> Maik, you are wasting my time here
[15:59] <Maik> thanks for the compliment
[15:59] <Maik> kristian_on_linu: maybe ask in #linux
[16:01] <Maik> otherwise... search the web
[16:04] <webchat24> Hello all, i installed ubuntu server 20.04 LTS and  imported a SSH keys from Launchpad. i am a little bit lost how can i log in now without a password, what i have to change in ssh/sshd_config or how can i log with different accoutn with the ssh key pub
[16:04] <webchat24> If you have a video or tutorial where i can learn all this. thank you a lot and have a great day!
[16:05] <Maik> webchat24: nothing on youtube?
[16:05] <Maik> maybe try asking in #ubuntu-server
[16:07] <webchat24> There is a lot of video where they generate the key directly but i imported the key from Launchpad. I will check ubuntu server libera chat, thank you a lot! have a  nice day @Maik
[16:14] <ducasse> kristian_on_linu: there are a few commercial ones
[16:15] <ducasse> webchat24: have you got both the public and private key?
[16:16] <webchat24> i generated both of key with PuTTy on windows
[16:16] <webchat24> and imported the pub to the linux server
[16:16] <webchat24> is it better to delete this imported pub key and generate this pair on the server directly with ssh-keygen?
[16:17] <ducasse> if they're generated by putty you need to convert them to openssh format
[16:17] <ducasse> generate them on the client, copy the public key to "/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server
[16:19] <webchat24> Sorry i am a newbie, when you say "on the client", on the server with ssh-keygen?
[16:30] <ducasse> on the machine you are ssh'ing from
[16:32] <webchat24> Ok good thank you a lot ducasse!
[16:34] <webchat24> Have a great day all. bye
[18:13] <Metamorphosis> Hello. I'm having issues adding shortcuts for keyboard layout switching in Gnome 40. How can I use shift + Alt for layout change?
[18:29] <ioria> Metamorphosis, https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/mo9q18/gnome_40_switch_input_source/
[20:31] <morganu> anyone familiar with mate?
[20:32] <greenerthanyou> anyone familiar with mate?
[20:33] <greenerthanyou> using the Mate DE and the mic doesnt work and I cant see how to test it after I made it the webcam mic. (I have no clue what the default mic  would be) 20.04 -- Works on Gnome
[20:36] <liveacoustic> exit
[20:38] <shepherd_> Hi guys, trying to get audio with my LG C1 and RTX 3080. Seems as soon as I switch to 120hz the audio shuts off. If I go back to 60hz it starts playing again. Any suggestions?
[20:45] <shepherd_> Looks like I got it. I had to install nvidia drivers from the nvidia website, they are newer.
[20:47] <matsaman> shepherd_: gj
[21:15] <Anf> Hello to all. I am currently setting up a new backup on a new HDD and have always used borg backup before. But now I've heard about Restic and have taken a closer look at the tool. Can't decide between the two now? Are there advantages and disadvantages? I only use Linux and I don't need any compression.
[21:18] <matsaman> Anf: I've always felt rdiff-backup got all the implementation details right for end usage
[21:19] <matsaman> and if you don't need incremental backups, then rsync is already enough
[21:19] <matsaman> and if you need to be able to restore extra rapidly, you'll want something more like FS snapshots
[21:21] <Anf> I was already going to implement it incrementally. So a repository and shnapshots. Both tools, restic and borg, can do this
[21:29] <matsaman> I don't really understand why they make you init
[21:29] <matsaman> rdiff-backup is so simple: rdiff-backup origin/ destination/
[21:30] <matsaman> I don't really want encryption in a backup tool, either. I can do that separately
[21:31] <matsaman> but if we just compare borgbackup & restic...
[21:31] <matsaman> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20147298
[21:32] <matsaman> doesn't seem like they're tremendously different
[21:32] <matsaman> restic is in Go?
[21:32] <matsaman> so honestly I might think borg, in python, will last longer
[21:33] <Anf> Yes, restic is in Go and borg in Phython
[21:33] <matsaman> but they'll probably both be replaced by the time either go or python go out of fashion
[21:34] <matsaman> this looks like a nice comparison: https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-05-21-borg-vs-restic.html
[21:34] <matsaman> still not that different, though
[21:34] <matsaman> if those differences don't matter to you, I would say pick your favorite between go & python
[21:34] <matsaman> you may well find yourself wanting to modify it at some point
[21:37] <Anf> matsaman Thank you so much.
[21:38] <matsaman> the licensing is also similar, so I didn't mention that, but one should consider licensing also
[21:49] <greenerthanyou> ok I asked about supported Ubuntu flavors so I wouldnt be orphaned here but I see that that was not true. Ask a mate question and there is just deep silence. "Oh, pickles!"
[21:56] <Guest_666> hi 4 all
[22:50] <hans> `apt purge unattended-upgrades` does not stop unattended-upgrades, looks like a bug
[22:51] <hans> like you can still see unattended-upgrades running in htop
[22:52] <tomreyn> did you run apt with sudo, did it succeed?
[22:53] <tomreyn> which state does the task have in htop?
[22:54] <tomreyn> does "dpkg -S unattended-upgrades" still list a package providing it?
[22:54] <hans> i ssh'ed into there with root, so i didn't actually use sudo
[22:54] <hans> sorry can't check the state, i SIGTERM'ed it
[22:55] <hans> dpkg -S unattended-upgrades \n language-pack-en: /usr/share/locale-langpack/en_AU/LC_MESSAGES/unattended-upgrades.mo \n language-pack-en: /usr/share/locale-langpack/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/unattended-upgrades.mo \n language-pack-en: /usr/share/locale-langpack/en_CA/LC_MESSAGES/unattended-upgrades.mo
[22:55] <tomreyn> hmm, working as root - is this actually ubuntu then? if so, which release?
[22:55] <hans> oh, it's 18.04
[22:55] <hans> is 18.04 still maintained?
[22:56] <tomreyn> yes, it is for main and restricted components
[22:57] <tomreyn> for another year
[22:59] <tomreyn> there seems to be no dpkg managed package installed that still provides an unattended-upgrades command, though
[22:59] <jhutchins> I was never clear whether delete/purge actually killed a running process.
[22:59] <hans> tomreyn: i never started that program manually. i think its just started automatically after installation
[23:00] <leftyfb> it does
[23:01] <leftyfb> and no, most programs do not die when uninstalling them. You either need to stop them (preferably before removing) or reboot
[23:05] <tomreyn> there will be /lib/systemd/system/apt-daily-upgrade.timer and /usr/lib/apt/apt.systemd.daily
[23:05] <tomreyn> and a loaded timer + service unit
[23:10] <hans> leftyfb: that's weird. hard to imagine a situation where  you -want- a deleted program to keep running post deletion
[23:10] <leftyfb> kernels
[23:10] <rdr> i have had that before
[23:10] <rdr> like when i was running GNOME but uninstalled it to get KDE
[23:10] <rdr> it would suck if it just killed the session halfway through apt doign stuff
[23:10] <leftyfb> and yes, people will remove things like web server packages while the web server still runs
[23:17] <Aavar> I created a new zfs storage pool for lxc "lxc storage create default2 zfs size=200GiB", but how can I tell my VM to use it?
[23:17] <rdr> would depend on what vm software you're using?
[23:19] <rdr> this is how you do it using QEMU, for example: https://libvirt.org/storage.html#StorageBackendZFS
[23:19] <Aavar> rdr: lxc
[23:20] <rdr> have you checked out this blog? https://stanislas.blog/2018/02/lxc-zfs-pool-lxd/  I haven't heard of lxc before this so I'm not sure
[23:23] <leftyfb> Aavar: try #lxc
[23:23] <Aavar> leftyfb: I did. No answer. Tnx anyway :) I going to sleep
[23:23] <leftyfb> Aavar: wait longer. That is a proper place to get support with lxc
[23:26] <Croran> what kinds of settings should i expect to lose if i delete my dconf 'user' configuration file?
[23:27] <rdr> what desktop you running?
[23:27] <rdr> you can look at dconf-editor (a program) and all that stuff will be removed and reset to the defaults
[23:27] <rdr> stuff like your monitor layout, gnome extensions, background, etc
[23:27] <rdr> your file bookmarks are in a different file I think
[23:30] <oerheks>  dconf 'user' configuration file? such does not exist like in windows, dconf handles a lot of files and settings
[23:34] <rdr> i think he's referring to ~/.config/dconf
[23:34] <oerheks> oh, that settings file
[23:52] <Croran> I'm running unity desktop
[23:53] <Croran> ok. that stuff sounds pretty easy to reconfigure
[23:53] <Croran> I'm just getting some log messages about compiq sqlite errors
[23:53] <Croran> so i'm thinking deleting that file may resolve them
[23:53] <Croran> compiz*
[23:57] <RootDet> Anybody have experience with transcoding in ubuntu? I have a fresh 20.04 LTS install, but no /dev/dri, dispite having a supproted CPU.