[00:15] <relipse> I'm trying to open gedit but it's not working
[00:16] <relipse> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HKSf2M9o/
[00:18] <leftyfb> relipse: you're leaving out crucial details
[00:18] <leftyfb> relipse: are you doing this over ssh or is this a machine not running a desktop environment ?
[00:18] <relipse> ok fine, crucial detail, i'm running Ub 20.04 on wsl2
[00:18] <leftyfb> yeah, no
[00:19] <leftyfb> !wsl | relipse
[00:19] <gry> relipse are you trying to start gedit in a terminal, or in a graphical session
[00:19] <relipse> no so you arent going ot try and help me
[00:19] <leftyfb> gry: they're running WSL
[00:19] <relipse> i want it to display on my windows box
[00:19] <leftyfb> relipse: then run a VM
[00:19] <gry> how does wsl work? does it have a desktop?
[00:20] <leftyfb> gry: no, feel free to click on the link explaining WSL or google it
[00:20] <gry> then gedit won't work because it requires a desktop
[00:20] <leftyfb> relipse: Desktop isn't officially supported on WSL. There's several tutorials online to help you with it though
[00:20] <gry> without desktop, your choices are nano, vim, and emacs
[00:22] <Znullptr> Full screen apps (video) make ubuntu go ape$&*( ; I thought it was just normal taskbar flickering through but I notice old popup notifications also cycling centered at the top of the screen ... what would possibly cause this?
[00:23] <relipse> leftyfb: yes it is this is Windows 11
[00:23] <leftyfb> relipse: good luck
[00:25] <leftyfb> relipse: and no, Ubuntu desktop is not officially supported on WSL. Not here anyway
[00:28] <relipse> can't even try to help?
[00:28] <relipse> i know this is unrelated but I made a rpg game, want to see the link?
[00:28] <gry> ask #windows-wsl i guess
[00:28] <gry> yes sure
[00:29] <relipse> cworklog.com/eingame
[00:29] <leftyfb> relipse: that's offtopic here. Feel free to post in #ubuntu-offtopic. This is a support chhannel
[00:29] <leftyfb> or not
[00:29] <relipse> umm
[00:29] <relipse> i retract my statement
[00:53] <Legonich> Hello World
[01:09] <Ribby> Hello Ubuntu, I am trying to get step 1 right. It will allow me to search for dependencies with ease for source code compilation. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[01:10] <leftyfb> Ribby: you really only need build-essential and checkinstall
[01:11] <Ribby> Same for step 2. I didn't see a .configure anywhere! I know that the created folder is to get set for these database searches.
[01:11] <Ribby> Well, alrighty then.
[01:11] <leftyfb> Ribby: as for a .configure file, that is up to the project and nothing to do with ubuntu
[01:12] <leftyfb> Ribby: what are you trying to compile?
[01:12] <Ribby> apt-file search missingfilename.pc, but it came with a long long list of the searched term. I put in 'sdl'. omg.
[01:12] <Ribby> I was trying to compile wesnoth as an example, but apparently they prefer flatpak.
[01:12] <Ribby> It's not really compiling source, but one of those package installation methods.
[01:12] <leftyfb> Ribby: sudo apt install wesnoth
[01:14] <Ribby> The problem is I wanted to stick with source code compilation. Just got that missing dependency problem.
[01:14] <leftyfb> why?
[01:14] <Ribby> Let us just say that development tends to support mod support for older versions.
[01:15] <Ribby> So I was like, omg!
[01:15] <leftyfb> Ribby: ok, good luck. Feel free to reach out to the Wesnoth project for support with their application
[01:18] <Ribby> Oh, and 20.# might have a audio problem after upgrading. Here is the solution. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1230363/internal-speaker-audio-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-20-04-lts-after-upgrading-from/1234906#1234906
[01:19] <Ribby> Speaking of audio, the older wesnoth versions have a internal audio problem. That's why I wanted to go for source code compilation.
[01:20] <Ribby> So is the configure method is the standard for unix-like's dependency resource installation (before source code compilation)?
[02:55] <petra_the_kat> hello
[02:55] <petra_the_kat> i am trying to install weechat on wsl and i am getting some pubkey issues
[02:56] <petra_the_kat> i'm following these instrs: https://weechat.org/download/debian/
[02:56] <petra_the_kat> on the step `sudo apt-get update` i get this error:
[02:56] <ms4722> Hi
[02:56] <petra_the_kat> > The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D1820DB22A11534E
[02:56] <ms4722> do you know why wine program is slow in ubuntu?
[02:56] <petra_the_kat> i was told from #libera to ask over here
[02:57] <ms4722> 안녕하세요 한국 말 읽을 수 있나요?
[02:58] <petra_the_kat> i don't speak korean but i do vaguely know enough to know the answer to that question is no i don't speak korean
[02:58] <ms4722> 그래요?
[02:58] <ms4722> 어떻게 내가 한국어를 사용하는지 알았습니까?
[02:58] <petra_the_kat> sorry i dont understand
[02:58] <ms4722> 당신은 한국을 좋아하나요?
[02:58] <ms4722> how do you know I am using korean?
[02:59] <ms4722> what do you know about korea?
[02:59] <petra_the_kat> not much...
[02:59] <ms4722> anyway nice meet to you. what do you do?
[03:00] <petra_the_kat> im a student
[03:00] <ms4722> Oh.. what degree?
[03:00] <petra_the_kat> compsci
[03:00] <ms4722> Wow.. Great.. I am working for IT field.
[03:00] <ms4722> over 26 years.
[03:03] <ms4722> do you have korean friends?
[03:03] <petra_the_kat> Not especially...
[03:04] <petra_the_kat> its kinda embarassing, my roommate is a giant kpop fan and they know more about korean culture than i do ;`)
[03:04] <ms4722> Are you talking about BTS?
[03:05] <petra_the_kat> yeah and the like
[03:05] <ms4722> I know many young people like them. Specially McDonalds.
[03:06] <petra_the_kat> the fast-food place?
[03:07] <ms4722> Yes, I saw their name on Macdonalds's source label.
[03:08] <ms4722> I am proud of them. Also, I am proud.. samsung and hyundai so on.
[03:10] <ms4722> If you have a performance issue in wine, you try to downgrade graphic driver or use XORG default driver.
[03:10] <ms4722> I resolved the issue today.
[03:20] <leftyfb> petra_the_kat: sudo apt install weechat
[03:21] <petra_the_kat> i swear i tried that
[03:21] <petra_the_kat> For Gods Sake I Hate All Computers
[03:21] <petra_the_kat> it just Works
[03:22] <ms4722> what is weechat
[03:22] <petra_the_kat> i've spent like an hour poking around stupid f iles and aaAAAAAAAughhbh
[03:22] <leftyfb> !support | ms4722
[03:22] <petra_the_kat> ms4722: its an irc client
[03:22] <petra_the_kat> alright guess i'll see everyone on the other side
[05:25] <alicef> hello, how is the format ~20.04.1+0ubuntu1_amd64 added when building packages from source ?
[05:26] <alicef> I see there is a ubuntu package versioning scheme but I'm not sure if such versioning is automatically added during package build from source.
[06:02] <kristian_on_linu> hi, looking for an easy way to start an application (ClamTK) in the tray, on startup?
[09:17] <neure> Hi
[09:18] <neure> I try to install clang-13 with the automatic installation script from https://apt.llvm.org/ on Ubuntu 18.04 but it fails with errors, for example The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available
[09:18] <neure> Any suggestions?
[09:24] <ikonia> get the public key ?
[09:24] <ikonia> don't install using some random automatic install script ?
[09:25] <KBar> neure: ^ did you get the key?
[09:27] <KBar> neure just get the source from here: https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/impish/llvm-toolchain-13
[09:27] <mncheckm> I'm trying to find the compile time flags for gnutls-bin package on focal but getbuildlog(1) seems to try buildd.debian.org instead of anything in launchpad.net/builders - how do I get to the compile flags on ubuntu?
[09:28] <ikonia> mncheckm: the source package normally has them in the make file of the debhelper
[09:30] <eoli3n> Hi
[09:30] <eoli3n> where is the official ubuntu preseed documentation ?
[09:31] <mncheckm> ikonia, in directory by apt source gnutls-bin if I execute debian/rules -n I get https://bpa.st/FXNA , do you mean it like this?
[10:07] <mncheckm> ikonia, so I went to https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/21832233 from https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/amd64/gnutls-bin/3.6.13-2ubuntu1.6 which takes me to the build logs which seems to match the one from debian/rules -n in apt source
[10:09] <mncheckm> is there a script that does this?
[10:10] <mncheckm> I mean for a given package to show which apt source it came from, for example
[10:11] <mncheckm> currently I do it manually
[10:44] <zprd> my laptop went to sleep with my monitor (usb-c) last day and couldn't bring it up this morning. I have a 'usb 2-1 .. Device not authorized for usage' message, then fwupd failed to modprobe : entity not found
[10:44] <zprd> any idea on the matter?
[10:45] <zprd> ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS
[10:45] <gordonjcp> weird
[10:45] <zprd> I have black screen when run the monitor on
[10:46] <zprd> laptops screen works when turned off
[10:46] <zprd> uninstalled nouveau, still the same
[10:46] <zprd> I had usbguard, uninstalled it, no usccess
[10:47] <zprd> I have no other cable to test, but will buy a hdmi one if no solution found this morning
[10:48] <zprd> it is a thinkpad e570 + dell monitor
[11:10] <weq> eoli3n: did you find it? if so, care to share with me also?
[11:30] <KBar> weq: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/s390x/apbs02.html & https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/s390x/apb.html & https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[11:34] <eoli3n> weq I found what gave KBar
[11:34] <weq> ty ty both.
[13:32] <zprd> ...duh, made a reset of the monitor and it re-works again
[13:32] <ren0v0_> Does anyone know what this means? :)   cryptsetup: WARNING: Permissive UMASK (0022). Private key material within the initrd might be left unprotected
[13:45] <Frost> Hello!
[13:47] <fede> hi at all can anyone help me with my problem? I have an hp 255 G8 and I  have installed Ubuntu 21.10, but sometimes suddenly it reboot hitself. What can I check? from where can I start for resolve this issue? thanks in advance
[13:47] <Frost> What kernel are you using?, open the terminal and type uname -r
[13:48] <crackerjack> ren0v0_: it looks like you have included a key for (assuming luks) encryption in your initial ram disk (initrd).  this is a security risk as any individual with access to the initrd could potentially extract said key that has bad permissions.  I'm no expert but that's my perspective
[13:48] <Frost> I just came here to fix a mistake in ubuntu mate
[13:49] <Frost> in the installer of 20.04.3 it says with cellouid installed by default you can watch all your [local video]
[13:49] <Frost> keep in mind this is ubuntu mate
[13:55] <ren0v0_> @crackerjack, i followed the Ubuntu guide written by TJ here, any idea how to fix it?
[13:56] <ren0v0_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019
[13:56] <ren0v0_> This one
[13:59] <bunjee> I'm a newbie - can anyone out there explain to me why Firefox will not let me save my usernames?
[14:00] <bunjee> I have uninstalled and re-installed Firefox several times and still cannot figure it out.
[14:00] <Frost> bunjee : probably you have the snap
[14:00] <bunjee> frost - snap?
[14:00] <Frost> bunjee : What is the version of ubuntu you have?
[14:00] <bunjee> frost - IDK
[14:01] <Frost> bunjee : open your terminal and type "uname -r"
[14:01] <Frost> without quotes
[14:02] <Frost> bunjee : Post what you see
[14:02] <bunjee> frost - 4.15.0-166-generic
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:02] <Frost> HI
[14:02] <Frost> Sorry for caps
[14:02] <Frost> accident
[14:03] <Frost> bunjee : your using an old version
[14:03] <Frost> bunjee : in the ubuntu page, it shows download options, which one did you choose
[14:04] <Frost> bunjee : 21.10 or 20.04
[14:04] <bunjee> frost - an old version of Firefox? how do I get to the Ubuntu page?
[14:05] <Frost> bunjee : ubuntu.com, and not an old firefox version
[14:05] <crackerjack> ren0v0_: Looks like this is set in the Post-Installation steps, in the /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf file.  As a test, I'd remove the UMASK line that the guide has you add, and regenerate initramfs (update-initramfs in ubuntu, I believe).  I haven't had to manually set this parameter for full disk encryption systems in the past.
[14:05] <Frost> bunjee : but an ubuntu version
[14:06] <bunjee> frost - can I install the new version of Ubuntu over the old one without using a disk?
[14:06] <Frost> bunjee : yes but wait
[14:07] <Frost> bunjee : type in the terminal "lsb-release -a" and post your result
[14:07] <KBar> is GRUB2 the default boot loader on Ubuntu systems? im asking because i also have systemd-boot. how to determine which one is currently responsible for booting?
[14:09] <crackerjack> ren0v0_: what version are you running? This guide was written for 19.04 and I'd suggest using a guide that targets the specific version you are installing
[14:10] <bunjee> frost Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic
[14:10] <Frost> bunjee : That will end support next year
[14:11] <Frost> bunjee : i recommend you switch to 20.04
[14:11] <bunjee> frost - ok - can I install over the 18.04and how do I do that?
[14:12] <Frost> use sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:13] <bunjee> frost - do-release: command not found
[14:13] <bunjee> frost - wait........
[14:14] <Frost> bunjee : what
[14:14] <bunjee> frost - I was missing a dash
[14:15] <Frost> bunjee : you can also do this graphically by searching software updater and running it
[14:15] <bunjee> frost - explain please?
[14:15] <Frost> just run software updater
[14:16] <Frost> or use the command i told you
[14:16] <Frost> if nothing worked then go here https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-18-04-lts-to-20-04-lts-today
[14:16] <bunjee> frost - I'm doing the upgrade now - does the new upgrade override the old one and get rid of old stuff?
[14:17] <Frost> bunjee : the upgrade just upgrade the system and keeps your files safe
[14:17] <Frost> so you dont have to reinstall
[14:18] <Frost> bunjee : also it may be slow depending on your hard drive speed
[14:18] <bunjee> frost - then I'll be able to install a good copy of Firefox?
[14:18] <Frost> bunjee : it upgrade programs too
[14:18] <Frost> i thin
[14:18] <Frost> think*
[14:21] <Frost> bunjee : just wanted to tell you that you can use flavours desktop environments in standard ubuntu
[14:21] <bunjee> frost - ?
[14:21] <Frost> bunjee : you can use xubuntu in ubuntu for example
[14:26] <bunjee> frost - how do I get xubuntu in ubuntu to get flavours desktop?
[14:26] <Frost> bunjee : sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop
[14:27] <Frost> bunjee : if you want another desktop then sudo apt install distro-name-desktop
[14:27] <Frost> bunjee : change distro-name to the name of the flavour
[14:28] <bunjee> frost - how many flavours are there?
[14:28] <Frost> bunjee : 5
[14:28] <Frost> bunjee : there are unofficial ones
[14:29] <bunjee> frost  - where do I find the names?
[14:29] <Frost> oops i meant 6
[14:29] <Frost> bunjee : ubuntus website
[14:29] <bunjee> frost - under ?
[14:29] <Frost> bunjee : https://ubuntu.com/download/flavours
[14:30] <Frost> bunjee : wait is your ubuntu 32bit
[14:30] <bynarie> xubuntu FTW
[14:30] <Frost> bynarie : ubuntu mate is my favourite
[14:31] <bynarie> Frost, mate is good too. I've been using xfce/ubuntu forEVER.. but mate is my second pick
[14:31] <bynarie> plain ol ubuntu desktop is terrible though, IMO
[14:31] <bunjee> frost - thanks a lot for your help - I am trying to stay away from Windows because of the bs about windows 11 - can't believe Microsoft is forcing consumers to get new devices that support that OS....
[14:32] <Frost> bunjee : Your'e welcome! the ubuntu community always supports new or returning users unlike microsoft
[14:32] <Frost> bunjee : ive seen windows 11 but i never tried it
[14:33] <bynarie> windows11 is already, but the start menu, pure garbage
[14:33] <Frost> bunjee : from my thoughts its just windows 10 made worse
[14:33] <bynarie> windows11 is *alright
[14:33] <Frost> bynarie : windows 10 buisness bundles candy crush
[14:33] <Frost> for some reason
[14:33] <Maik> lets focus on ubuntu support here please
[14:33] <bynarie> That's totally useful lol
[14:34] <Frost> anyway i was tryna download ubuntu mate's artwork but it does not open
[14:34] <Frost> its just a file called ubuntu-mate
[14:36] <Frost> I used alot of distros even arch
[14:37] <chg> Hi Guys N girls, I have some Epson Precision V39 scanners running on Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS, most of them work, but I have tried several ~10 scanners with Serial number VCFY3367xx, they do not work :(, I have tried with several drivers for Sane, The drivers we have installed are respectively:
[14:37] <chg> 1) imagescan-bundle-ubuntu-20.0 4-3.65.0.x64.deb
[14:37] <chg> 2) epsonscan2-bundle-6.6.40.0.x 86_64.deb
[14:37] <chg> 3) iscan-gt-s650-bundle-2.30.4. x64.deb
[14:37] <chg> , they all fail... $ scanimage -L
[14:37] <chg> device `imagescan: esci: gt-s650: usb: / sys / devices / pci0000: 00/0000: 00: 14.0 / usb1 / 1-4 / 1-4.3 / 1-4. 3: 1.0 'is a EPSON Epson_Perfection_V39
[14:38] <Frost> chg : what kernel did you use
[14:38] <chg> I have contacted Epson support, but they simple state they don't support Linux :/
[14:38] <wew> I have an Epson Perfection V700 and I tend to run it via VueScan.
[14:38] <wew> Vuescan isn't open source but it is quite versatile and works with Linux
[14:39] <chg> I will check kernel, one moment...
[14:39] <Frost> there are a few solutions chg, first one : reinstall the drivers, second : use wew's solution third : upgrade the kernel
[14:41] <chg> @wev, sane is using with 'most' of my PrecisionScan 39, but not any of the new ones (Serial VCFY3367xx), I need to use the scanners from commandline, since they are exposed via a REST scanner server, can VueScan be used from commandline?
[14:41] <Frost> i hate intel sometimes like they didnt make drivers for the Intel GMA 3600 for linux (except for back then it was supported in a older linux kernel 3.5)
[14:42] <Frost> and i have to use UBUNTU 12.04!
[14:42] <wew> @chg, I don't think it is available from the command line. Sorry
[14:42] <chg> I see :(
[14:43] <KBar> someone said the w-word in here?
[14:43] <KBar> not good…
[14:43] <Frost> KBar : what is it?
[14:45] <KBar> the name of m$'s child
[14:45] <chg> Frost, the kernel is 5.4.0-96-generic
[14:46] <Frost> chg : did you recently update
[14:46] <Frost> chg : maybe reboot and choose the oldest kernel this may fix your issue
[14:46] <chg> nope :), since it works and is ussually running with no internet
[14:47] <chg> as mentioned it works with Epson Perfection where Serial != VCFY3367??
[14:48] <Frost> chg : i dont know much about printer drivers but i think you may find it on CUPS
[14:49] <chg> its a scanner, not a printer :) Unsuported by Sane 'free drivers' but there are several non free drivers
[14:49] <chg> all of them working when serial != VCFY3367??
[14:49] <chg> I will try to update everything, and cross my fingers
[14:50] <Frost> chg : maybe i know something but i think its debian specific, do you have the non-free repos
[14:51] <Frost> KBar : oh i get you, you mean wind***
[14:52] <chg> I think I have the non free repo, but not 100% sure, 1) imagescan-bundle-ubuntu-20.0 4-3.65.0.x64.deb
[14:52] <chg> 2) epsonscan2-bundle-6.6.40.0.x 86_64.deb
[14:52] <chg> 3) iscan-gt-s650-bundle-2.30.4. x64.deb
[14:52] <chg> initially only 'imagescan-bundle', but the other two to fix the issue with the problematic scanners.
[14:53] <Frost> chg : i found something https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=221071
[14:56] <chg> Frost, I think it is one of the drivers I have already installed, but I will have a closer look and see where it takes me :)
[14:57] <BobTheTomato> does anyone else find gnome-terminal or vim very glitchy on Ubuntu 20.04?
[14:57] <BobTheTomato> it's to the point I don't use it anymore.
[14:57] <Frost> BobTheTomato : i dont, i used ubuntu 20.04 before
[14:58] <BobTheTomato> I wonder if it's powerline
[14:58] <Frost> BobTheTomato : umm i never used powerline in ubuntu 20.04 i used it in a distro i cant remember
[14:58] <Frost> maybe arch
[14:59] <BobTheTomato> It's buggy quite a bit. Have to exit the editor and close gnome-terminal
[15:00] <BobTheTomato> I think I'll uninstall powerline and see if that fixes it
[15:00] <Frost> BobTheTomato : i may need a screenshot
[15:02] <Frost> away from keyboard
[15:03] <BobTheTomato> Frost: your jedi mind tricks don't work on me
[15:09] <Frost> bobthetomato: im back
[15:10] <BobTheTomato> Frost: :-) when I hit a bug I'll post it
[15:11] <Frost> BobTheTomato : i just wanna see how the vim glitch looks like
[15:14] <Frost> one funny thing is the name of the shortend links website : ubbottu.com
[15:14] <Frost> ubottu.com*
[15:18] <jhutchins> BobTheTomato: Are you using the graphical vim extensions?
[15:21] <BobTheTomato> jhutchins: I see stuff in ~/.config/powerline/colorschemes/vim however I don't think it's active. I am going to clobber the directory maybe that will fix it.
[15:26] <Frost> Hey i have a question, how do i get nitrux apps like index?
[15:27] <leftyfb> Frost: you run a distribution that isn't Ubuntu
[15:27] <Frost> leftyfb : in ubuntu*
[15:28] <leftyfb> Frost: get the Nitrux project to port their application to Debian or snap
[15:29] <Frost> leftyfb : Nitrux is based on debian
[15:29] <leftyfb> Frost: is the "index" application Debian?
[15:29] <Frost> The index application is in nitrux os
[15:29] <leftyfb> Frost: is the "index" application Debian?
[15:30] <Frost> leftyfb : yes
[15:30] <leftyfb> Frost: what is the package name?
[15:30] <leftyfb> in Debian
[15:30] <Frost> leftyfb : i dont know its in arch
[15:31] <Frost> the repos of arch include it
[15:32] <leftyfb> Frost: that doesn't help your cause here. If you want to know if the package is in Ubuntu, you first need to track down what it's called in Debian. Let us know when you find it
[15:32] <Frost> leftyfb : they are Maui apps that are built on qt
[15:32] <Frost> here is index fm
[15:32] <Frost> https://invent.kde.org/maui/index-fm
[15:33] <Frost> leftyfb: Oooh i remembered they are on flathub
[15:34] <leftyfb> Frost: ok, so completely unrelated to Ubuntu. Good luck
[15:34] <Frost> leftyfb : i also recommend you use maui apps they are beautiful
[15:35] <leftyfb> Frost: no thanks. I'll stick with what is available Ubuntu
[15:36] <Frost> leftyfb : if you use kubuntu they may fit
[15:38] <Frost> oops my pc is low battery
[15:38] <Frost> gotta leave, see you later!
[15:39] <Frost> Back!
[15:46] <Frost> leftyfb : here is a screenshot of index, you may like it : https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/3053525/141739838-6ac11799-6354-488b-8530-df667ce78d32.png
[15:49] <KBar> Frost: please don't be nagging.
[15:49] <Frost> KBar : sorry
[15:49] <KBar> Frost: this channel is not for such things.
[15:52] <ioria> Frost, an Appimage is available, if you want to use it  on Ubuntu
[15:52] <ioria> Frost, https://www.linux-apps.com/p/1535897/
[15:52] <ldiamond> I have an issue that started this morning. Xorg doesn't want to start and my Nvidia GPU is marked "unclaimed" with no `driver=XXX` config by `lshw`
[15:54] <ldiamond> xorg logs shows `Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)`
[15:55] <ioria> ldiamond, have you tried to reinstall the nvidia driver ?
[15:56] <ldiamond> ioria: well, it wasn't installed before, I believe it was just using nouveau. I tried installing it with `ubuntu-drivers` but it still isn't working.
[15:56] <ioria> ldiamond, dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:56] <ldiamond> I'm seeing `nouveau` still being loaded. Errors like `open /dev/fb0: Permission denied`
[15:59] <ldiamond> http://termbin.com/k6ih
[16:00] <ioria> ldiamond,  it wasn't installed before ?
[16:01] <ldiamond> I don't think so. I just installed it after having issues assuming there was an update to nouveau that broke it
[16:01] <ioria> ldiamond, let's try again; sudo apt purge  nvidia-driver-470  nvidia-340
[16:03] <ldiamond> One thing, `ubuntu-driver` installed 470, from the nvidia page, it shows 340 as the latest for that GPU. I had first installed `nvidia-340` which also didn't work, and later `sudo apt remove nvidia-340` said the package was not installed.
[16:04] <ioria> it's not, but we need to purge the config files
[16:04] <ioria> ldiamond, sudo apt purge  nvidia-driver-470  nvidia-340
[16:04] <ldiamond> yea I did that
[16:05] <ioria> ldiamond, sudo apt autopurge
[16:05] <ldiamond> And just reinstall right away or reboot first?
[16:06] <ioria> what ?
[16:06] <ldiamond> after purging
[16:06] <ioria> ldiamond, sudo apt autopurge
[16:06] <ldiamond> That's done.
[16:06] <ioria> ldiamond, dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:07] <ldiamond> You essentially want me to purge all the packages matching nvidia
[16:07] <ldiamond> right?
[16:08] <ioria> yes
[16:08] <ldiamond> I'll just do that
[16:08] <ioria> unbelivable
[16:09] <anddam> howdy, I am using Eclipse (lucky me) from their latest installer, it creates a desktop entry in ~/.local and I can call it from Ubuntu 18.04 launcher, but I cannot add it to favorites
[16:10] <anddam> I figure the desktop entry is lacking something, what is it? https://termbin.com/me6t
[16:24] <Frost> Hello! im Here to Help Anyone!
[16:25] <ioria> anddam, call it from 'Activities' then right click 'add to...'
[16:25] <ldiamond> ioria: ok, all packages removed and purged
[16:25] <ldiamond> dpkl -l has nothing matching nvidia
[16:25] <ioria> ldiamond, ubuntu-drivers list | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:26] <Maik> Frost: please don't
[16:26] <Frost> Maik: Why?
[16:27] <Maik> look, it's a Ubuntu support channel, so wait until someone pops up and actually needs support with Ubuntu
[16:28] <Frost> Ok ill just wait
[16:28] <Maik> besides that, it's just annoying
[16:29] <Maik> if you're bored and just want to chat feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:30] <Frost> ok ill just leave
[16:30] <Frost> bye!
[16:30] <ldiamond> ioria: it's not giving me the url anymore for some reason. It lists `nvidia-driver-{460,390,470,470-server,450-server,495}.
[16:31] <ioria> ldiamond, lspci -nnk |  nc termbin.com 9999
[16:35] <ldiamond> http://termbin.com/467m
[16:38] <rdr> anddam: it might be missing the TryExec= line, but if that were the case it wouldn't appear at all
[16:38] <ioria> ldiamond, interesting machine; now that nvidia is gone, i'd suggest to reboot and see if nouveau is working
[16:43] <ldiamond> ioria: same problem
[16:43] <ioria> ldiamond,  again   lspci -nnk |  nc termbin.com 9999  please
[16:46] <ldiamond> ioria: exact same outpu
[16:46] <ldiamond> output*
[16:46] <ioria> ldiamond,  ls /etc/modprobe.d/ |  nc termbin.com 9999
[16:47] <anddam> ioria: is Activities the launcher that appears hitting the Super key?
[16:47] <ldiamond> There's `blacklist nvidiafb` in modprobe.
[16:48] <ldiamond> if you were looking for why nvidia isn't loaded
[16:48] <ioria> anddam, also that, yes
[16:48] <ioria> ldiamond,  ls /etc/modprobe.d/ |  nc termbin.com 9999
[16:49] <ldiamond> http://termbin.com/gg9n
[16:49] <anddam> ioria: that I could do, and a second Eclipse icon appeared, near the currently running one. I figure this has to do with some process calling in the launcher script https://i.ibb.co/XZpvxyq/2022-01-31-175044-198x604-scrot.png
[16:50] <anddam> that's the bar after I closed the instance and clicked the Eclipse icon added to favorites, the upper one. A new icon appears downward with the running dot
[16:50] <anddam> it's good enough
[16:50] <anddam> thanks
[16:51] <ioria> anddam, you have something else set in ~/.loca/share/applications
[16:52] <ioria> ldiamond, sudo updatedb && locate -i xorg.conf  | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:54] <ren0v0_> @crackerjack, I will try what you said thank you. I am using latest Ubuntu, I used this guide because of the way it performs it actually, I cannot remember why but it seemed more secure, I think this performs the decryption earlier, including boot?
[17:02] <mncheckm> where does cifs log?
[17:02] <mncheckm> I have focal
[17:03] <mncheckm> I see some in /var/log/kern.log which is also what I see in man mount.cif
[17:03] <leftyfb> mncheckm: the server
[17:04] <mncheckm> leftyfb, come again?
[17:04] <leftyfb> mncheckm: what is the issue exactly?
[17:05] <ioria> mncheckm, have you checked syslog and dmesg ?
[17:05] <mncheckm> leftyfb, on an ad-joined machine the computer account gets badPasswordTime updated very often. on a different machine I have lots of "CIFS: attempting to mount" in kern.log
[17:06] <mncheckm> leftyfb, in both cases I would like cifs to tell me what its problem is but not sure if I'm looking at the right place
[17:06] <leftyfb> mncheckm: I would look at the AD/CIFS server for what is going on.
[17:07] <leftyfb> mncheckm: in this case, on the client, CIFS is only a protocol, not a service running to do any logging. You should look at the server for more information. If I had to guess, sounds like network issues
[17:07] <mncheckm> leftyfb, that's out of my hands so can only turn to that if necessary
[17:08] <leftyfb> ioria: dmesg and kerne.log are the same thing. And in this case, I don't think "syslog" is going to show any additional messages since this is just a mount
[17:10] <mncheckm> leftyfb, I try tcpdump -i ${eth0} port 445 now
[17:12] <tomreyn> you'll be looking at encrypted traffic.
[17:14] <mncheckm> tomreyn, oh
[17:15] <leftyfb> mncheckm: If you mount the CIFS and it's working, but intermittently stops working, the problem isn't going to be anything to do with the CIFS protocol on the client side. Start troubleshooting network and/or server issues
[17:40] <morganu> FYI Abiword is too weird to use. Froze when I tried to put a . at the end of a filename (by mistake) - You Should Know.
[17:40] <leftyfb> !bug | morganu
[17:41] <morganu> I just want a simple world processor that will do RTF level, ie bold and clickable links. gedit wont. Help appreciated.
[17:41] <morganu> 20.04
[17:41] <morganu> thanks leftyfb
[17:43] <ldiamond> ioria: Kernel headers were missing and it was skipping dkms. I re-installed linux-headers-generic and that didn't work, my current kernel headers are still missing. I had to install the exact one I'm running. I'm guessing this will give me problems every time.
[18:23] <ioria> ldiamond, sudo updatedb && locate -i xorg.conf  | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:24] <ldiamond> ioria: It's fixed.
[18:24] <ioria> ldiamond, ok
[18:30] <rachelfish> so after upgrading from ubuntu 21.04 to 21.10 the application launcher no longer brings up system settings, it only shows applications, what's up with that?
[18:31] <rachelfish> like I used to be able to search for "date" or "monitor" in the application launcher and it would bring up the system settings menu to change my date settings, or the settings for my monitors
[18:32] <KBar> rachelfish: GNOME's decision
[18:32] <rachelfish> ok so I should go to #gnome and complain there? :)
[18:33] <rachelfish> stop taking useful features away... gnome team....
[18:33] <rachelfish> <3
[18:33] <KBar> rachelfish: pointless. there was already lots of discussion about it
[18:33] <rachelfish> ok well I'm still going to complain
[18:33] <KBar> rachelfish: the dev is arrogant and wont listen to feedback
[18:33] <rachelfish> thanks!
[18:34] <KBar> rachelfish: you're welcome i guess :)
[18:34] <KBar> rachelfish: #gnome is not on libera but rather on irc.gnome.org btw
[18:35] <rachelfish> aha, that explains why #gnome here doesn't have a topic or any operators
[18:36] <KBar> that too is pointless. the channel is always dead despite always containing around 2k users
[18:36] <rachelfish> thanks again!
[18:36] <rachelfish> did the discussion happen on a mailing list or an internal discussion forum?
[18:37] <KBar> rachelfish: i think there was a bug report upstream and a couple of devs hoppen in explaining their decision and that its not a bug  at all but a feature
[18:37] <KBar> *hopped in
[18:39] <ioria> rachelfish, correct me: you start 'Activities' (with Super Key); then you type e.g. 'Date' and nothing comes up ?
[18:39] <tomreyn> rachelfish: that seems to be specific to your 21.10 system https://i.imgur.com/8LRDdlx.png https://i.imgur.com/VCRltTE.png https://i.imgur.com/QYk2Zmt.png
[18:40] <rachelfish> tomreyn: what version are you on??
[18:40] <tomreyn> i posted three images, the last one will tell
[18:40] <tomreyn> it could be related to the upgrade, though, this was a fresh install.
[18:41] <tomreyn> KBar: which makes me even more interested in the source of your information
[18:42] <ioria> rachelfish, you might have lost something in the upgrade process ; how did you do it ? with do-release-upgrade ?
[18:42] <rachelfish> I actually found a bug report for it on the pop-os github! I wasn't aware there were such significant differences between ubuntu and pop
[18:42] <rachelfish> https://github.com/pop-os/cosmic/issues/301
[18:43] <rachelfish> oh but weird
[18:43] <rachelfish> I'm on the same gnome version as you
[18:43] <rachelfish> 40.4.0
[18:43] <gordonjcp> If they need to play with the sound settings that much, why don't they just script it?
[18:43] <tomreyn> !popos | rachelfish
[18:43] <gordonjcp> or drop the sound control panel icon onto their desktop
[18:44] <leftyfb> rachelfish: so wait, you're running popOS?
[18:45] <rachelfish> gordonjcp: when you press the "windows" button it's supposed to be like a search bar for your entire computer, applications, settings, everything. That's how both windows and osx work and that's what people who use computers in 2022 expect
[18:45] <rachelfish> so it's not just about having a shortcut to the sound menu, it's about having a shortcut to anything you could possibly want
[18:45] <rachelfish> sometimes it's sound, sometimes it's monitors, sometimes it's other system settings
[18:45] <rachelfish>  ¯\_(シ)_/¯
[18:46] <leftyfb> rachelfish: are you running popOS or Ubuntu?
[18:46] <rachelfish> I already read the bot
[18:48] <Maik> rachelfish: that still doesn't answer leftyfb's question
[18:48] <gordonjcp> rachelfish: yeah, but constantly fiddling about with the control panel is unproductive and they should fix that
[18:49] <leftyfb> gordonjcp: it's a valid use case. I have multiple reasons to jump into several different settings menu's for different reasons pretty often. One use case does not rule them all
[18:49] <KBar> gordonjcp: they're already introducing a new feature called quick settings
[18:50] <KBar> invokable by clicking on top right of the panel
[18:51] <leftyfb> KBar: the keyboard is quicker and more convenient
[18:51] <KBar> gordonjcp: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/4795 & https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/12/gnome-shell-quick-settings-concept
[18:51] <KBar> leftyfb: yes, that's why we need to bring unity back
[18:52] <leftyfb> KBar: I don't see why that is necessary. I do just fine with Ubuntu 18.04 and 20.04 without it
[18:52] <leftyfb> KBar: either way, offtopic here
[18:52] <gordonjcp> I quite liked Unity once I got used to it
[18:52] <KBar> leftyfb: do you mean the quick settings? its because we need to follow mobile GUI and all that proprietary garbage like macOS and w-word
[18:53] <Maik> better to take it to #ubuntu-discuss
[19:24] <Guest13> I installed ubuntu server 21.10 and noticed firewalld is running.  When I do a web search on ufw vs firewalld and also look for firewall ubuntu 21.10 they all seem to say that ufw is the default.  Some saying iptable is being gradually replaced with nftables.
[19:26] <leftyfb> Guest13: how did you install ubuntu 21.10? On what hardware?
[19:27] <gmcastil> i'm using xterm (353) on ubuntu 20.02.3 LTS - in my terminal, the output of a makefile is echoing these strange rectangular characters with dotted lines.  I seleted them and pasted them into a different editor and they render as backticks
[19:27] <Guest13> downloaded iso, put on a flash drive and installed on a laptop
[19:27] <gmcastil> is there a reason why xterm isn't rendering them as backticks?
[19:28] <leftyfb> gmcastil: 20.02.3 is not a version of ubuntu
[19:28] <gmcastil> gah....20.04.3
[19:28] <gmcastil> sorry
[19:29] <leftyfb> Guest13: firewalld is not installed by default on ubuntu
[19:29] <leftyfb> gmcastil: why are you running xterm as opposed to gnome-terminal?
[19:30] <gmcastil> leftyfb, a variety of reasons - gnome-terminal renders it as backticks properly, I would like to fix whatever is causing xterm not to render it the same
[19:30] <Guest13> Then how did it get there and is running?  This is after installing server today and then also running "unminimize".  Would unminimize do that.  I'd need to see.
[19:30] <leftyfb> !bug | gmcastil
[19:31] <gmcastil> leftyfb, I doubt that it is a bug
[19:31] <leftyfb> Guest13: what is "unminimize"?
[19:31] <gmcastil> leftyfb, I commonly work on systems that do not include desktop environments like gnome or kde
[19:32] <leftyfb> gmcastil: ok, try it in a tty then
[19:32] <Guest13> I installed minimal server.  With that when I ran man some file it says it can't do that and says run unminimize to get mandb files and other things - I did that
[19:32] <gmcastil> tty works fine
[19:33] <leftyfb> gmcastil: ok, then the problem is with xterm, a use case you don't need to worry about
[19:34] <leftyfb> gmcastil: xterm is not a valid way to test output in tty
[19:35] <tomreyn> Guest13: what's the name of the iso file you downloaded?
[19:35] <gmcastil> leftyfb, xterm is entirely the use case i'm concerned about
[19:35] <leftyfb> gmcastil: why?
[19:35] <gmcastil> xterm doesn't require gnome or anything like
[19:36] <leftyfb> gmcastil: it's also broken compared to gnome-terminal or just a plain tty
[19:36] <gmcastil> leftyfb, because i'm using xterm?
[19:36] <gmcastil> leftyfb, that's not a helpful response
[19:36] <Guest13> ubuntu-21.10-live-server-amd64.iso from ubuntu site
[19:38] <tomreyn> Guest13: okay, sorry, i wasn't aware that this behaves like cloud images when using the 'minimal' installation mode
[19:39] <jhutchins> gmcastil: Would you care to paste some version of the suspect make output?
[19:39] <jhutchins> !paste
[19:39] <tomreyn> Guest13: based on what you're saying it seems that minimal installation mode uses firewalld. you could uninstall this and instead use something else, or nftables / iptables directly,
[19:40] <Guest13> I am trying in a vm with non minimal.  Maybe the is the difference.
[19:40] <gmcastil> jhutchins, yeah, i'm trying to pastebin a screenshot
[19:41] <Guest13> Correct.  For a test I -ssh'd over to the server, then removed ssh with firewall-cmd, the tried ssh again, then turned off firewalld (systemclt stop firewalld) and tried ssh again and it worked just to test things.
[19:42] <Guest13> I'm installing server in a vm to double check.  Probably will not select minimal in future installs.
[19:43] <tomreyn> Guest13: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Minimal discusses its purpose
[19:43] <gmcastil> jhutchins, i really dont want to make an imgur account - suffice to say, the backticks are all rectangles with dotted lines - the actual make output is not relevant
[19:44] <Guest13> tomreyn  OK.  Thanks
[19:44] <tomreyn> Guest13: note there is also #ubuntu-server for server specific questions
[19:45] <gmcastil> jhutchins, but, if i do echo \` it renders it just fine
[19:45] <tomreyn> gmcastil: for what it's worth, imgur does not require user accounts for posting images.
[19:45] <gmcastil> tomreyn, oh?
[19:45] <Guest13> ok.  Thanks
[19:47] <gmcastil> https://imgur.com/a/edY7ahR
[19:49] <tomreyn> gmcastil: on a quick glance, this looks like a font limitation
[19:49] <gmcastil> yeah, that was what i was assuming....but i can print those characters to stdout though...
[19:49] <tomreyn> possibly related to -ansi ?
[19:50] <tomreyn> hmm no probably not
[19:50] <gmcastil> nope, but i tried it anyway without CCFLAGS and just ran the compiler startight
[19:51] <gmcastil> straight
[19:51] <gmcastil> and that's the default xterm font too
[19:52] <Guest13> fyi - on normal server install, firewalld is not running.
[19:52] <gmcastil> https://bpa.st/DORQ
[19:52] <gmcastil> relevant section from .Xresources
[19:56] <gmcastil> i had assumed that it was something like a font problem, but it renders fine
[20:01] <tomreyn> gnu unifont would probably help there.
[20:11] <morganu> `20.04 Is there a way I can get one of those windowns that shows some text, for each font IN ITS STYLE?
[20:11] <morganu> instead of just a long list of font names...
[20:16] <circuitbone> morganu:  open the folder in Blender and it will show you the fonts in action
[20:17] <tomreyn> i'm not sure i'm getting the question right, but you can try: activities -> fonts, then just wait for all fonts to load and show "Aa" in their very type. or click a font to see an example text rendere din this font.
[20:18] <circuitbone> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TBXLtQRt/Screen%20Shot%202022-02-01%20at%207.17.31%20am.png
[20:18] <circuitbone> Alternatively the font tool you can get free in the repo
[20:24] <gabriel> Hello. Are there any Ubuntu Mate developers present?
[20:30] <leftyfb> gabriel: try #ubuntu-devel
[20:31] <gabriel> I send this feedback to whoever is developing the dock (Unity type) on Ubuntu Mate. Note that there is an incongruity between dark mode and light mode. The blank panel bar is really annoying and annoying, and doesn't make any incongruity with the theme. For those who don't use dark mode, like me and hundreds of people, the most appropriate thing would be to leave the panel contrasting with the dock in black. Attached are the
[20:31] <gabriel> images. Thanks. ;D
[20:31] <gabriel> Dark Mode: https://imgur.com/tpjYKcO
[20:31] <gabriel> Light Mode: https://imgur.com/Q3stnPe
[20:31] <gabriel> ;D
[20:32] <leftyfb> !bug | gabriel
[20:33] <gabriel> Sorry, but I'm a layman, if you could do this for me, both I and the whole community would be extremely grateful! Thanks a lot for the guidance!
[20:33] <leftyfb> gabriel: that's not how this works
[20:35] <gabriel> See, I'm trying to help where I can. I think it could be extremely important, even more so for the next LTS. I don't remember, as far as I know, any formal protocol dedicated to end users. Thanks! ;D
[20:40] <circuitbone> the sum of the people contributing to a ticket gives the developers a scope of how many people it is affecting.
[20:40] <circuitbone> If you contribute, you add weight to the problem and might provide insights from your wordsalad.
[20:44] <gabriel> See (again), maybe it's a mistake because I don't master English properly. I just think that if someone could report this bug to the dev team it would only make the distribution even more design congruent. Unfortunately I don't know how to do this, but if anyone knows and has the slightest sense of community, please report this bug to the dev team. Thank you very much.
[20:45] <leftyfb> !bug | gabriel this is how you report a bug
[20:45] <leftyfb> gabriel: this isn't a developer channel, nor is anyone here going to report usability issues for you
[20:51] <tomreyn> gabriel: there is #ubuntu-mate as well as https://ubuntu-mate.community/ if you're looking for help with identifying the Ubuntu package that provides the dock you are referring to. once you know, you can file a bug report against it by just running a simple command in a terminal window, as indicated by ubottu. you seem to be able to do this, if you want it enough.
[20:55] <gabriel> Thanks a lot for the guidance!!!!!!
[21:13] <bunjee> what software is there for Linux that works with lightscribe discs?
[21:14] <bunjee> I have the optical drives.
[21:16] <VIA> heay all o/
[21:16] <VIA> does anyone have a clue how to fix " E: Package 'libcurl3' has no installation candidate " .. ? im tryign to install redshift and it fails
[21:17] <VIA> console wont let me install libcurl3 for some reason but suggests libcurl4, which manages to install fine. but redshift install doesnt go with libcurl4 it wants 3 ._.#
[21:18] <VIA> if the last of " Package libcurl3 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:18] <VIA> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[21:18] <VIA> is only available from another source
[21:19] <VIA> .." is true, that owuld be neat i just need another source? but doesnt really add up to me oO
[21:20] <sarnold> VIA: maybe install apt-rdepends, then you can run apt-rdepends redshift   to find which package has a libcurl* dependency
[21:20] <sarnold> VIA: then you can use apt-cache show <packagename> and hopefully you'll see an alternation of which packages are required..
[21:21] <VIA> what do i enter for install apt-depends, is apt-depends the feature which i wanna install ?
[21:25] <sarnold> VIA: apt-rdepends is a very useful tool used for exploring package dependency graphs
[21:28] <VIA> i run it on redshiftgui, gives me"  Depends: libcurl3, libxcb-randr0 "
[21:28] <VIA> so nothing changed
[21:28] <sarnold> oh, dang
[21:28] <VIA> it complained about not havign libcurl3 without rdepends
[21:35] <Bashing-om> VIA: I am running 20.04 and I do not see a dependency on libcurl (?) .
[21:36] <VIA> see how, where
[21:36] <EriC^^> 'apt-cache show redshift'
[21:36] <VIA> my gut says its my desktop enviroment? xfce ?
[21:36] <VIA> might as well be completely off, ofc
[21:37] <VIA> EriC^^: *redshiftgui
[21:37] <Bashing-om> VIA: I also run xfce4 as  my DE.
[21:37] <VIA> oh dang i have an idea :o
[21:37] <EriC^^> VIA: type 'apt-cache policy redshift-gtk'
[21:38] <Bashing-om> !info redshift-gtk focal
[21:38] <sarnold> yeah, this was drastically complicated by the redshiftgui package not existing on 20.04. it'd be have been so much easier if it did..
[21:38] <tomreyn> bunjee: none, because it's not open source nor a compatible license, i think. there seems to be vendor software if just 32-bit.
[21:41] <VIA> just doing updates/grades maybe that helps
[21:42] <tomreyn> VIA: for many, (gnomes') "night light" is a good enough (and supported) alternative to redshift - had you tried this?
[21:42] <VIA> the .deb file i downloaded sais i86 and x64 support
[21:42] <bunjee> tomreyn - ok - another question - I have an ASUS motherboard that is not compatible with Linux - ever heard of such a thing?
[21:42] <VIA> nop alwas looking for alternatives but couldnt find nada
[21:43] <VIA> whats the packet name/link tomreyn ?
[21:43] <tomreyn> bunjee: i'm aware of many mainboards where vendors do not offer linux support
[21:43] <bunjee> tomreyn - what? Why?
[21:44] <VIA> what mainboard is it ?
[21:44] <tomreyn> VIA: i think it's part of gnome, should already be installed, see settings -> displays
[21:44] <VIA> i hade to force all to legacy to make it work proper here, uefi wrecks everything. was especially tough to get win7 unning but all smooth now with legacy
[21:45] <tomreyn> bunjee: officially supporting operating systems means they need to test every release against it. that's a cosiderable cost factor. note, though, that not explicitly supporting Linux does not mean it can't work.
[21:45] <VIA> you might as well tell me the name tomreyn
[21:45] <VIA> cause im pretty sure its not
[21:45] <jhutchins> bunjee: I haven't seen an outright incompatible iX86 motherboard yet, and I'be been at this a LONG time.  Sometimes special features don't work.
[21:46] <tomreyn> VIA: the name of what? "Night Light"?
[21:46] <bunjee> tomreyn - what software could I get for just plain printable discs?
[21:46] <tomreyn> bunjee: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LightScribe and https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/LightScribe (not Ubuntu, but probably applies similarly, and is more recent)
[21:47] <bunjee> jhutchins - so there probably is a work around? If so - I would have to be coached to figure it out.
[21:47] <tomreyn> bunjee: tell us what does not work with the mainboard.
[21:47] <tomreyn> and how you tell
[21:48] <jhutchins> bunjee: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[21:48] <tomreyn> VIA: which ubuntu release are you on?
[21:49] <bunjee> tomreyn - I just burned an ISO of Ubuntu 20.04 - the screen has weird lines in it and doesn't do anything - like it's froze.
[21:49] <VIA> 20.04 ubuntu studio
[21:50] <tomreyn> VIA: oh, well, that's not Gnome based.
[21:50] <VIA> im using xfce ?
[21:50] <VIA> isnt gnome another desktop enviroment
[21:50] <tomreyn> That's correct, VIA
[21:51] <VIA> thats why i asked for a packet name to install
[21:52] <tomreyn> bunjee: i would recommend that you verify the ISO download against the checksum on the download servers, and then verify that the ISO file was properly written to the installation media (usually DVD-ROM or some USB stick).
[21:52] <tomreyn> !checksum | bunjee
[21:55] <tomreyn> VIA: there's the "ubuntu-desktop" package if you want to also install the default Ubuntu graphical environment. However, note that different desktop environments installed side by side may not always play out well. You can normally switch between them, but there can be corner cases where one stops working or changes behaviour.
[21:55] <VIA> yea not interested
[21:55] <VIA> now somethign is iffy with my updates argh
[21:56] <bunjee> ok
[22:09] <AngryTom> Can Gnome Disks create compressed disk images?
[22:11] <leftyfb> disks is meant to manage block devices
[23:15] <cryocaustik7> hey all - has the method for changing the default kernel changed in 20.04 LTS? I have tried swapping the kernel to the generic variant (e.g. Ubuntu, with Linux 5.13.0-28-generic) on both Google Cloud and Azure,  but both become on responsive after running a update-grub and reboot; I am not sure what has changed as using the same methods on 18.04
[23:15] <cryocaustik7> LTS works just fine
[23:19] <sarnold> cryocaustik7: this is what we give to people when they want to swap to HWE or back to GA https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[23:22] <llanhmod> Hi, as far as I can tell, Maven 3.6.3 is the only version in the Ubuntu repository? If not, I'd like to install 3.8.3 as it works with Java 17.
[23:25] <llanhmod> Though, I'd rather much use Gradle, the project was setup with Maven...so gotta get that working first.
[23:27] <Bashing-om> llanhmod: Though PPAs are not supporte here - you will find https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=maven of interest.
[23:27] <sarnold> llanhmod: yeah, that's about what it looks like https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maven
[23:27] <llanhmod> Bashing-om: sarnold: *Sigh* okay thank you guys.
[23:31] <sers> hm, hi
[23:34] <cryocaustik7> sarnold: thanks! I will give this a try
[23:34] <sers> Is anyone currently present who really knows about the ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS installer on the LIVE DVD and its partitioning schemes done upon an install of multiple systems WINDOWS10/UBUNTU 20.04.1 LTS on the same disk/drive?
[23:46] <jhutchins> sers: What's your actual question?
[23:46] <sers> hi jhutchins, second...
[23:48] <Maik> sers:  stop cross posting everywhere, thanks in advance
[23:53] <sers> The scenario is the following, a windows10 system was installed on a drive, roughly half the space of the drive for the win10-partition, afterwards, ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS was installed from the LIVE DVD, occupying the rest of the space of the drive. Now, upon only reinstalling ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS thru the installer from the LIVE DVD, leaving windows 10 intact, the unbuntu installer creates after each new install
[23:53] <sers> of ubuntu, a new W95 FAT32 537MB /dev/whatever* partition. Now after reinstalling ubuntu multiple times, leaving the windows OS untouched, there are now multiple W95 FAT32 parititions, which mostly only contain $RECYCLE.BIN and System Volume Information folders, and occupy roughly 20,5 kB, and only in the last 295 FAT32 partition mounted at /boot/efi and the necessarly files stored created by the ubuntu
[23:54] <sers> installer...
[23:54] <sers> Now, do I need these newly created partitions which only contain said windows files or what would happen if I were to remove them via ubuntu discs and source the grub files afterwards?
[23:54] <sarnold> it might be way easier to pastebin the output from cfdisk or something
[23:55] <sers> probably right, but I'd rather now want to post sensitive information :)
[23:55] <sers> But do you understand what I am trying to say?
[23:55] <sarnold> no
[23:56] <sarnold> you've described a bunch of partitions, but I can't guess if they're right or wrong or what..
[23:56] <sers> sda       8:0    0 465,8G  0 disk
[23:56] <sers> ├─sda1    8:1    0   579M  0 part
[23:56] <sers> ├─sda2    8:2    0   108G  0 part
[23:56] <sers> ├─sda3    8:3    0   513M  0 part
[23:56] <sers> ├─sda4    8:4    0     1K  0 part
[23:56] <sers> ├─sda5    8:5    0   512M  0 part
[23:56] <llanhmod> shame really...
[23:56] <Maik> use paste.ubuntu.com sers
[23:57] <llanhmod> at least its +q and not a ban
[23:57] <Maik> people should know better
[23:57] <llanhmod> I agree
[23:57] <sers> hm perhaps I think of something else than posting to the channel...
[23:57] <sarnold> a pastebin, perhaps..
[23:58] <Maik> sers don't be stubborn and just use paste.ubuntu.com