[01:50] So? === M4he is now known as mahe [03:02] hello world! [03:04] hello jn [03:22] What is a good place for ubuntu compatible software recommendation discussion? [03:22] For example I transfer a lot of data via SSH. Using mostly rsync but I'm annoyed from all it's legacy issues. And looking now for a modern alternative for it [03:33] BredaSimonides: rsync [03:33] It ain't broke. Don't fix it. [03:34] I tried for months now. It comes up with all new kind of problems. And it feels very manual to anticipate every possible problem [03:34] For example stop working after a temporary timeout/dc === de-facto_ is now known as de-facto [03:37] If I don't want to double transfer files I have to set a flag. If I want to check if the already existing file is not completed yet I have to enable checksum verification which makes it very slow on a lot of files. I think I'm already using like 7 flags and it still not does a simple job of copying files betwen devices. Issue is that I have roughly [03:37] 1MB\s of upload and around 4TB of files [03:38] So you'd probably be impatient with the 38 hour transfer of a government databse we had to do. [03:40] BredaSimonides: The point being that if you have a large, complex task, simplifying it too much is inviting problems. [03:41] I'm simply asking if there has been some development within the last 25 years which does the job with more sane defaults than rsync [03:43] Not as far as I know. It's still the best tool for the job. Other attempts have only gotten close to as good. [03:43] ... of couse, there's always zmodem ... === metasintactic is now known as thunder [04:25] hi [04:26] watsup === Vercas8 is now known as Vercas [06:02] sarnold: thanks again for the link on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS kernel updates; using that I was able to swap to the generic kernel without issue [06:08] I maybe have a simple question: [06:08] I found out that the gpg version on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS is roughly 14 months old. [06:08] How is the regular process of updating apt-get packages? [06:13] yeah, im running 22.04 now [06:13] i dont use apt-get, i just use apt [06:14] It's the same data base anyway. That shouldn't make any difference, right Obscenity? [06:14] nah, only visually [06:14] my normal process is `sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade -y` [06:14] Process for what? [06:14] updating stuff [06:17] I would consider a dist-upgrade for a bit dangerous and way overblown for regular updates. But interesting to hear that you are doing that usually [06:19] it saves me doing `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove -y` === diskin_ is now known as diskin [07:19] I am unable to install apps via snap-store gui. cmd works though. snap store shows I dont have permission install. possible to help ? [07:49] Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how long do you think it will be until I can 'apt install nvidia-driver-510' on Focal? [07:49] https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1305877-nvidia-510-47-03-linux-driver-released-with-vulkan-1-3-support-rtx-3050-compatibility [07:49] I want to install this, but I want to use a package instead of running the nvidia binary installed. [07:50] installer [08:17] How to fix airplane mode as there is no hardware switch in my laptop [08:21] zeeshan: 1. what do you mean exactly and 2. do you really need airplain mode [08:22] *airplane === ravage_ is now known as Ravage [09:06] B0g4r7_: an already released ubuntu release isn't getting new packages [09:06] that said, try the graphics drivers ppa [09:06] thats not really true for the nvidia drivers [09:06] there are updates all the time [09:07] new versions added to a release? [09:07] yes [09:07] they must be sru's, i knew they occured but not for nvidia drivers [09:08] https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia-dkms&searchon=names [09:08] ducasse How is the regular process of updating a package? I looked at gpg in jammy and it's 12 months old. How to best participate in that? [09:08] current version is 495 there for all supported ubuntu versions [09:09] BredaSimonides: in general, you won't get a new version unless you use a ppa/third party repo [09:10] Sorry, I knew I misphrased it. How do participate in the official package process? [09:10] On the example of gpg [09:11] you mean help update packages? [09:11] ubuntu usually just imports debian unstable until import freeze before a release [09:12] then sees that everything works and does a release [09:12] there are exceptions for the gnome and kernel versions [09:12] but most packages (like gpg) just come from the debian packages [09:13] correct, if you submit a patch to debian it will end up in ubuntu [09:13] !contribute [09:13] To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu [09:13] other than that, see this ^^ [09:14] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-schedule/23906 shows the process pretty well :) [09:14] So I should ask Debian in regard of gpg? [09:14] what exactly to you want to ask? [09:16] https://packages.debian.org/sid/gpg uses the current LTS release [09:16] seems reasonable to me [09:17] well. ok. some minor versions behind. debian loves patches until they really have to update the version number :P [09:19] if you have general questions about how ubuntu works maybe switch to #ubuntu-discuss [09:23] Hi guys, how can I tell chrome on ubuntu to be in "dark mode" by default? [09:23] just setting the preference to display it in dark mode if the website supports it [09:24] chrome is not a supported Ubuntu package [09:25] yes I know [09:25] im sure there are like 100 extensions for some auto dark mode on google's web store [09:26] https://superuser.com/questions/1588110/dark-mode-in-chrome-based-browsers [09:26] feel free to google 30 more seconds [09:29] Ravage, I've asked here because I didn't find the solution on Google. I don't need to force it, I just need to tell the website via prefers-color-scheme that I'd like to be in a Dark mode [09:29] that forces every website to be in dark mode [09:29] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/prefers-color-scheme [09:30] that really has nothing to do with Ubuntu [09:30] How do I remove package archives that I added on top of the regular ones? like winehq, microsoft, yarn... [09:31] maxzor: https://itsfoss.com/how-to-remove-or-delete-ppas-quick-tip/ [09:31] Ravage, yes I know it has to do with Chrome on a linux distro so I've asked here because I'm using Ubuntu... [09:33] Ravage, how do I know what is my PPA name? [09:36] EriC^^: link to your tool? ^^ [09:37] maxzor: https://github.com/ericj112/ppa-tool [09:44] EriC^^, clean, thanks [09:45] maxzor: no problem [09:46] maxzor: be sure to remove the .list files from /etc/apt/sources.list.d once you purge all the packages [09:48] I just had trouble with my brain on bash, successfully removed [09:48] - the ppas [09:57] hey [09:57] i have a question [09:58] can i resize the dualboot partiton? [09:58] Frost, if you dualboot you have multiple partitions, so you might want to precise which you want to resize [09:58] (the answer is probably yes in any case) [09:59] maxzor : i want to resize the ubuntu partition [10:00] because its too tiny like 30gb [10:02] hi does somebody know whether overriding a file with at least the same size in B effectively clears the memory on disc so it can not be recovered? [10:03] *overwriting [10:03] hello, since i upgraded my system to xubuntu 21.10 i have a sound issue while playing videos. after some minutes the sound crashes and become a humming noise and the video stops playing. after disableing the sound and enable again, the sound is back to normal and the video can be played. dont know, what to do, any ideas what could be the problem? [10:03] example I have a file "secret" that contains "my secret" and I open my text editor and write "nothing here" in it [10:04] is there a possibility that with any method available to humankind the words "my secret" can be recovered from that disk? === |avril is now known as avril [10:04] xu-irc24w : can you do reinstall pulseaudio? (if you have it)? [10:05] i tried that already, it worked, but did not change anything [10:06] xu-irc24w : wdym with humming? never seen humming in any distro [10:06] my assumption here basically is since the file wasn't moved the new data I write to it will overwrite the memory on the disk [10:07] i mean kind of a static noise, sounds like "deeeeeeeee" [10:07] xu-irc24w : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1241617/ubuntu-20-04-after-last-update-speakers-are-buzzing-unless-i-open-the-sound-s === Nebraskka_ is now known as Nebraskka [10:08] is there a better place for me to ask my question? I did not find much about it on the internet [10:08] laureee: try #linux [10:08] lauree : you can go on the unofficial ubuntu discord [10:09] thank you [10:09] laureee : your'e welcome ! i like helping anyone from anywhere [10:09] :) [10:09] laureee : but im in the middle as a linux user [10:09] I think I remember you from last time. if not my greatly redundant memory is failing me :D [10:10] ive used arch and manjaro [10:11] i will try that, thx [10:11] I want to find out which source package the 'eject' binary came from. Both `apt-cache showsrc eject` and `apt showsrc eject` exit with 0 but saying "W: Unable to locate package eject\nN: No packages found\n". The package search site (https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/eject) works and gives me the answer but I'm curious why standard apt tools aren't working. [10:13] Does someone know what is the best IRC channel for Debian to ask questions? [10:13] debian is on oftc [10:13] BredaSimonides: https://www.debian.org/support#irc [10:13] Thanks [10:19] It doesn't even show source of 'xorg'. Nothing. [10:19] KBar: maybe dpkg -S "/path/to/eject" [10:20] EriC^^: that only shows the name of the binary package. [10:20] EriC^^: I always do `dpkg -S $(which -a COMMAND)` === PriceChild is now known as Pricey [10:34] hey again [10:34] i didnt get any help [10:34] so i have a dualboot [10:34] and i made the ubuntu partition small [10:34] i wanna make it big [10:34] how can i do that? [10:35] i think if i did it would erase the data on the ubuntu partition [10:37] can anybody help me in my issue [10:38] Frost: you have to boot the ISO to change the partition size with gparted [10:39] Jeremy31 : will that break my os? [10:39] https://www.howtogeek.com/114503/how-to-resize-your-ubuntu-partitions/#:~:text=GParted%20will%20walk%20you%20through,exact%20number%20into%20the%20boxes. [10:40] Always do backups [10:40] thank you! [10:40] Ravage : i dont have any important stuff [10:41] because i always use my os for playing games and browsing the web [10:41] Jeremy: will that also decrease the size of my windows partition? [10:41] depends on if you have free space [10:42] Jeremy31 : i have little free space on my windows partition because of windows.old [10:42] you might not be able to make the ubuntu partition larger then [10:43] hello, i was here some minutes ago, i descriped a soundproblem, my sound crashes and become a buzzing noise after a while when i play a video(youtube, vlc, doenst matter). i tried https://askubuntu.com/questions/1241617/ubuntu-20-04-after-last-update-speakers-are-buzzing-unless-i-open-the-sound-s but this didnt help. any other ideas? [10:44] Jeremy31 : i dont think so, because its ext4 now and windows does not know ext4 [10:44] you might need a bigger HDD [10:45] thanks! now i can daily drive ubuntu 20.04! [10:45] lol [10:50] im still not sure if he is just a little simple or a real competitor for the troll of the year award [10:51] hi, i did mount an nfs empty share, on linux it shows //10.00.1/share size : 2T used: 100Gb , if i navigate to the mount it is empty, how come it is saying 100GB used? [10:52] hmm. it turns out my /tmp has changed its file mode bits to 0755 [10:52] pagios: could be a sparse file? [10:54] pagios: maybe root reserved space on target? [10:55] whats a sparse file [10:57] pagios: a file that contains a bunch of zero bytes [10:57] KBar: i dont see any files [10:58] essentially a sequence of zero bytes [10:58] la lost+found folder that is empty [10:58] pagios: any "hidden" files [10:58] ? [10:58] no [10:58] -s latrh [10:58] ls -altrh [11:00] pagios: which tool said 100GB used? can you use `du`? [11:00] df -h [11:02] pagios: run `du` on the mount point and wait for it to finish [11:03] KBar: it says 0 [11:03] why df is saying 100GB ? [11:04] i did du -c . | grep total [11:04] shows a correct 0 [11:04] pagios: can you just run du with no fancy options? [11:04] maybe 0 is not correct [11:04] pagios: are you exporting the entire drive from the server? [11:04] yes [11:04] dont assume thing [11:04] *things [11:12] when i book ubuntu, it opens busybox and makes me use cryptsetup and lvm vgchange -ay before i can finish booting my pc. [11:13] me_ which version of Ubuntu? [11:13] 20.3 [11:13] me_: there is not such version. [11:13] i get to retire my mac finally. =D [11:13] me_ are you using a different flavor? [11:14] Looks like Linux Mint. [11:14] (which is not a flavor) [11:14] 20.04 [11:14] im on the ubuntu lts, not mint. [11:16] me_: post URL from terminal for> cat /etc/lsb-release | nc termbin.com 9999 [11:16] me_ 20.3 is Linux Mint. can you post the output of: `cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999`? [11:16] or that ^ thanks Jeremy31 [11:17] i said 20.04... [11:17] you also said 20.3 [11:17] i said wrong lol [11:17] soon we'll find out that you're actually using macOS [11:18] lol gosh no. [11:19] so you dont know how to setup cryptsetup in grub? ubuntu still uses grub i hope [11:21] i want it to ask me for my passphrase when i boot my pc [11:24] me_: try 'sudo grub-mkdevicemap' to get rid of the vgchange -av [11:24] why would i want to get ri of the vgchange -av? [11:25] you want to manually have to type it every time? [11:25] heck no lol [11:27] i found this on askubuntu.com, i hope it does the trick "Add CRYPTSETUP=y in /etc/cryptsetup-initramfs/conf-hook" [11:27] ill be back if it doesnt work [11:31] ok im back. i didnt have to do vgchange (not even sure if i "had" to the first time, i jut did it out of habbit). [11:31] i still had to call cryptsetup though [11:33] i dont have any command line options set in grub for cryptsetup. its been a long time since i've done anything like this and every time i set it up i get stuck in this channel for a while until someone helps [11:41] Hey, are some server behind archive.ubuntu.com dead or on their way to be? I'm getting very weird things from it. Either I can't connect to them or I get very vert slow download speeds and it gives up midway through or "At least one invalid signature was encountered." [11:41] Repro: docker run -it ubuntu:hirsute and apt update [11:42] eijebong: hirsute aka 21.04 is EOL [11:43] !21.04 | eijebong [11:43] eijebong: Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo) was the 34th release of Ubuntu, support ended on January 20, 2022. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2022-January/000276.html [11:43] Ah so that means it becomes completetly unusable? [11:43] so upgrade to 21.10 [11:44] eijebong: yes, it's unsupported and doesn't receive any updates anymore [11:44] Great thanks [11:45] no problem [11:48] still looking for answers for getting grub to boot with cryptodisk... [11:52] anyone can tell me how to check clementine's user agent? [11:52] #clementine is dead [11:54] did you try asking in #linux? [11:55] Hey, I'm back. Same on 21.10 [11:55] hey, any issues with archive.ubuntu.com? our ci processes keep timing out. [11:55] thunfisch: Yup same here [11:55] great, thanks for confirmation, was afraid something on our end is borked. will wait it out then. [11:55] thunfisch: probably, getting slow downloads on the dev version [11:56] Maik: No, it's broken. I'm getting W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu impish-security InRelease: At least one invalid signature was encountered. === webchat14 is now known as jeanbelo [11:58] working fine at my end on xubuntu 21.10 [12:03] Hey all. I created a file called '1' and made it executable. Inside the file I put the command './1', so it continues to run itself in a loop. After about an hour the live virtual machine host application crashes saying unable to write to memory address, or the guest Ubuntu stops responding. Anyone know why? [12:11] . [12:13] hi, i have installed apache web server, how can I connect to subdomain on local lan? with ip adress I connect to the site. also xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/test works. but subdomain? [12:18] peto: you'll need to set up apache virtual hosts and some form of local name resolution [12:27] hi, I am trying to install playforlinux and instruction says I need to have wine:i386 installed, however `E: Package 'wine:i386' has no installation candidate` [12:27] any idea? [12:28] masber: which version of Ubuntu and where did you get PoL? [12:29] VERSION="20.04.3 LTS (Focal Fossa)" [12:29] https://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html [12:29] https://www.playonlinux.com/script_files/PlayOnLinux/4.3.4/PlayOnLinux_4.3.4.deb [12:29] masber: the instruction literally says: Ubuntu Precise (and superior) users : You must install the package wine:i386 to get PlayOnLinux working [12:29] masber: you're not using Ubuntu Precise which is deprecated years ago [12:30] ah ok [12:30] masber: just use the commands for the Bionic version. Actually, try Lutris. It's more stable and performs better [12:30] sorry I missunderstood [12:30] I thought superior was newer [12:30] im sorry? [12:31] "superior" is not particularly great here [12:31] it's kind of an unclear term [12:32] @ducasse i have virtual host with real servername adress, that works on my public ip, but not local. and where ist to set local name? [12:32] they probably never bothered to update it [12:32] masber: just use the one that's in the Ubuntu repositories. They're the same version [12:33] masber: with Ubuntu's one being specifically tailored for, well, Ubuntu [12:33] masber: with all deps included [12:37] ok [12:38] it is installing, I hope I added the right repos [12:38] Hi, i need some helps about gmusicbrowser to use "mmkeys Gnome": I can read this message : "Can't find the dbus Settings Daemon for gnome or MATE". Thanks you [12:50] It seems `apt-cache showsrc` requires deb-src be enabled. === keypushe- is now known as keypusher [13:18] vpn [13:44] Hi [13:44] I installed fresh 20.04 and I cannot ssh another computer with IPv6 address. Meanwhile I can ssh using IPv4 address just fine [13:45] And seems like I cannot even ping the IPv6 address: PING fe80:: ... ping: sendmsg: Invalid argument [13:47] oh solved it, never mind [14:03] is archive.ubuntu.com only for me terribly slow? [14:07] Bish: yes, there are known issues currently [14:11] oh okay [14:11] Bish: wich country are you on, for feedback? [14:12] germany [14:12] i had 14kb on the belgian repos earlier [14:12] and it happens inside the office aswell as my servers [14:12] was driving me crazy because i figured it's a docker issue, lol [14:12] i could remove archive.ubuntu.com and add some mirror, right? [14:13] Hi folks [14:13] ok tnx for the report Bish if you want to follow up/advice please join at #ubuntu-mirrors === ct is now known as ComputerTech === The_Blode_ is now known as The_Blode [14:38] ok. so updating to the 20.04 HWE kernel did indeed fix the kernel panics we were suffering in production with CIFS mounts to the Nutanix file servers [14:39] It's almost certainly do to https://github.com/openSUSE/kernel/commit/a52930353eaf443489a350a135c5525a4acbbf56#diff-365e109294d97a19e9458fa962d35d39ee87651aa464ad34c68606d81783c170 [14:39] Commit a529303 in openSUSE/kernel "cifs: handle empty list of targets in cifs_reconnect()" [14:39] for our purposes (we just have 4 ubuntu servers), simply switching to HWE and testing was NBD [14:39] buuut I do hope for all the other folks using 20.04 that that patch gets backported [14:39] 'cause esp in corporate world, I bet there's a lot of windows file servers [14:40] s/do to/due to/ [14:40] darn finger transcription of inner monologue was low fidelity [14:49] hi [14:52] hi [14:54] hi alex² [14:55] hallo nemo [15:03] lotuspsychje: FYI sweden also affected by the archive.ubuntu.com slowness [15:46] Will xinput device ids always be the same on the same machine? === genii-core is now known as genii [16:06] 'Either another instance of LibreOffice is accessing your personal settings or your personal settings are locked. [16:06] Simultaneous access can lead to inconsistencies in your personal settings. Before continuing, you should make sure user ‘A’ closes LibreOffice on host 'X'.' how do I solve this? [16:09] you should make sure user ‘A’ closes LibreOffice on host 'X'.' [16:11] I don't know where to begin [16:14] Hi, I no longer have the "Save to Google Drive" in my print dialog. Something changed? [16:14] Ubuntu 20.04 [16:14] I did log out and in again in Online Accounts [16:22] is anyone here running 2 nvidia cards with ubuntu? https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/only-one-of-two-rtx-3090s-detected-with-nvidia-smi-ubuntu-20-04/160103 - this does not work on my system. Only 1 card shows up [16:26] Hello everyone.  I am using 20.04 and I am having trouble with openconnect.  It does not update the resolv.conf when the connection is started so DNS does not work.  Does anyone have this working or have any idea what a fix might be? [16:32] zer0fun: What's the purpose of the VPN? [16:32] Its for work, I am connecting to a cisco asa. [16:33] I am not torrenting or anything, just need to be able to get to server.company.loc from a web browser [16:42] Am I posting right?  I haven't used irc in 15 years. [16:43] zer0fun: Without much knowledge of your specifics, you might look into the settings for whether the VPN is the default gateway or if your regular gateway is the default. [16:43] jhutchins: their issue is the openconnect client (or VPN server settings) not assigning a DNS server [16:44] zer0fun: I would verify that the VPN service your work manages should be assigning a DNS server properly and if this works as expected elsewhere, preferably someone else also running Ubuntu or another linux distro [16:44] Traffic goes through by ip just fine.  The way it is supposed to work from what I can find is that network-manager is supposed to add the search domain and the resolv.conf and for some reason that doesn't happen.  I have tried on a clean install. [16:45] It works fine if I use fedora [16:45] and widows ofcourse [16:45] I have found in the askubuntu that others have the issue but no real solutions.  I even tried a clean install of 20.10 [16:50] Is there any desktop effects available for Ubuntu 20.04 LTS - newbie here... [16:54] bunjee: you can find tweaks on your system with dconf-editor if you like [16:54] bunjee: on unity desktop + ccsm you might still find the old compiz effects working [16:55] lotuspsychje - how do I bypass typing your handle? [16:56] bunjee: what do you mean? [16:56] zer0fun, are you using network-manager or connecting via cli ? [16:58] lotuspsychje - your name? [16:58] bunjee: do you mean !tab completion? [16:59] no this - lotuspsychje [17:00] I am using network manager, I am not sure how to connect at the command line [17:00] zer0fun, udo openconnect xx.company.xx [17:00] zer0fun, sudo openconnect xx.company.xx [17:01] how do you find out the sources.list archive component of a bionic package from focal? [17:05] I went to https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/realmd/0.16.3-1 from https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+package/realmd and it says the component is universe. any way to do this via the command line? [17:05] ioria that worked [17:05] so its network-manager that is the issue [17:06] mncheckm: apt-cache policy realmd [17:07] leftyfb, not sure how does that do "of a bionic package from focal" [17:07] I'm on focal and want to find out this for bionic [17:07] mncheckm: why? What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? [17:08] zer0fun, probably [17:09] leftyfb, create a diff to a versioned sources.list without access to the production machine? you are right I'm not there yet so I could just ssh in [17:09] zer0fun, down the page ( https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/NetworkManager-openconnect/-/issues/33 and here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openconnect/+bug/1854205 [17:09] Issue 33 in GNOME/NetworkManager-openconnect "GlobalProtect VPN configuration failure" [Opened] [17:09] Launchpad bug 1854205 in network-manager-openconnect (Ubuntu) "nameservers update differently with openconnect and openconnect-gnome in ubuntu 18.04" [Undecided, Confirmed] [17:09] mncheckm: rmadison realmd # but it would be helpful if you described what your actual goal is [17:09] zer0fun, good luck [17:10] leftyfb, thanks that worked great, see my description above [17:12] * mncheckm is very grateful currently [17:29] Thanks ioria, it seems that the fix has not been merged yet.  I will just use the command line for now.. [17:35] hey peeps - i was wondering whether the /var/run/reboot-required file is ONLY created by the unattended-upgrades package when there is a security update available? or could there be a non-security reason that the /var/run/reboot-required file is created? [18:43] cryocaustik7: sweet :) [18:59] does some body know a free drag n drop Game Engine ?? [19:01] whitestain_: try #ubuntu-offtopic for software recommendations [19:08] sigh.    I'm using dolphin file explorer and it keeps just freezing up === gacuxz1 is now known as gacuxz === Kow_ is now known as Kow [19:49] knaccc: a bugfix to a core component such as the kernel or systemd would also require a reboot (and result in the file to be created) [19:50] Guest38: if you are looking for assistence with this, more details will be needed. [19:51] tomreyn ah thanks. i guess i should use an alternate method then to check if there is a security-critical reboot required [19:53] hey, here's a sort of odd question... are there any command line PDF readers that i could use to pipe the text thru a grep, to search by content a directory full of PDFs? [19:53] knaccc: basically every kernel update comes with security fixes; we might have *one* a year that doesn't include any security fixes, it's pretty weird when they happen.. [19:53] knaccc: of course livepatch might mitigate your need to reboot for those, but not every security issue gets livepatches [19:54] sarnold i guess a decision is made as to whether the vulnerability is severe enough to warrant a livepatch? [19:54] Gallomimia: try this: poppler-utils: /usr/bin/pdftotext [19:54] sometimes when I wake up the laptop from suspension, i find the time is wrong, what could be the issue? (the battery didn't die yet) [19:54] apt install poppler-utils? [19:54] knaccc: yeah, I think only highs and above get livepatches, but I also thought that we've done mediums, too, when there was resources available.. [19:54] oh it's installed. grand. let's give this a go [19:55] Gallomimia: there's a *lot* of variability in pdfs, they're absolutely miserable things -- so double-check that it works on a wide variety of your expected inputs [19:56] i just have about 60 pdfs... looking for hints on which ones to look in for the data i'm hunting [19:56] sarnold is there a better way of discovering "high" updates than https://ubuntu.com/security/notices?order=newest&release=focal&details=kernel ? [19:56] bank statements, if that makes it more pertinent. thanks sarnold [19:56] at the moment, i'm having to watch for updates and click through to read [19:56] Gallomimia: ah good so they're all going to be pretty identical :) [19:57] yeah. tables of bean-counter informations [19:57] knaccc: our raw git repo is available, but it's not really easy to consume [19:57] sarnold what should i google for to find that? [19:57] at least if it says "high" in the links or something, i can write my own script to filter [19:58] Gallomimia: sometimes you can just use 'strings', it kinda works on pdfs.. [19:58] knaccc: https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cve-tracker/tree/ [20:00] sarnold / knaccc: wouldn't the OVAL feed combined with a reference system come in handy there? [20:01] tomreyn: oh yeah, that'd do it too [20:01] I think [20:01] "oval feed"? [20:01] https://ubuntu.com/security/oval [20:02] thanks [20:02] unfortunately searching that for "high" includes "high-speed USB" [20:02] https://termbin.com/7voe [20:02] the cve feed has ratings in the title, heh [20:03] sarnold ooh, that's perfect, thank you!!! [20:03] $ grep '' /tmp/com.ubuntu.focal.cve.oval.xml | head [20:03] Low [20:03] Untriaged [20:03] even better, it's not as stupid as I thought, it's just capitalized :D hah [20:04] sarnold where do i download that xml file from? [20:04] i guess it's this? wget https://security-metadata.canonical.com/oval/com.ubuntu.$(lsb_release -cs).usn.oval.xml.bz2 [20:04] knaccc: very close, s/usn/cve/ in that [20:05] knaccc: the usn one covers just things we've published, the cve one covers everything in our database regardless if we've fixed it yet [20:06] sarnold that's perfect, thank you so much! [20:06] yay :) thanks tomreyn [20:07] yes and thanks tomreyn :) [20:07] :) [20:08] i'll brush up on my xpath now :) [20:08] sometimes I get wrong time when wake up from suspend, any idea? [20:08] good luck, the last time I tried that I wound up sobbing inthe corner [20:09] uh, hey sarnold, do you happen to know if that pdftotext program likes wildcards? or will i have to for-loop it? [20:09] maybe it's less trouble for me to just open each file and skim it by eye [20:10] Gallomimia: looks like forloop [20:10] aw, it's depressing looking over these bank statements :( [20:10] :( [20:13] there's the payment to the vet when my ex's cat died [20:13] and... damn. my grandmother was sure nice to me that year [20:22] ice9: if you don't have network, and your clock is pulling from an external time source, you could end up with the wrong time. I haven't had that happen on Ubuntu, but I've _definitely_ had it happen on Windows [20:22] especially if it's been suspended for a very long period of time [20:22] and when you resumed, networking wasn't up quickly [20:22] maybe... dead cmos battery? [20:22] Gallomimia: Also a very good starting point [20:27] ah i just discovered cvescan [20:27] which by default looks for 'high' or 'higher' [20:28] skip that [20:28] no good? [20:28] i guess that if i don't run cvescan prior to unattented-upgrades running, i'll see no output [20:28] it's just unmaintained, gives some incorrect results, etc.. [20:29] ah ok, thanks for the warning [20:29] sarnold: that's a pity [20:29] leftyfb: aye [20:56] Hi, I have changed the hostname of a ubuntu system in hostname and hosts file but netstat -a gives me still the old hostname [20:56] any idea ? [20:57] Tach: sudo hostnamectl set-hostname ; then reboot [20:57] leftyfb ok thanks but what does it change as well ? [21:16] Sorry if I'm repeating myself, I turned around and everything I typed had scrolled off the screen [21:17] I have a Realtek 8168 and my wired (ethernet) disappeared yesterday after a network-manager update. Nothing I've tried has brought it back to life. [21:18] when i boot my system, it boots into busybox and i have to manually run cryptsetup. how do i configure grub to do this for me? the guides i have found online dont help... =/ [21:19] leftyfb nope doesn't change it [21:22] hello [21:23] Why is everyone leaving??? [21:26] zcy_ corona ? [21:26] 1,5 meter is not really possible here [21:26] wat [21:26] zcy_ server split [21:26] zcy_: 'netsplit' [21:26] happens from time to time [21:27] sarnold let's hope the servers had a distance of 1,5 at least :D [21:27] *1,5 meter [21:27] hehe [21:28] im kinda new to irc [21:30] ah, welcome zcy_, you choose an awkward moment to join in [21:30] Yeah when alot of people are leaving === CodeMouse92 is now known as Guest1476 [21:33] I am joining ## === Guest1476 is now known as CodeMouse92 === beaver is now known as pong [21:36] hi, can someone help me? i set up web server with postfix, i can send emails, but no receive? i dont know why, i use imap ans stmp [21:37] peto: you want #ubuntu-server and a LOT more reading and research on how to run an email server [21:39] My gmail just got hacked :( [21:39] i will try, thanks [21:39] zcy_: do you have an ubuntu support question? [21:39] no === krabador is now known as Guest5362 [22:49] Hi [22:49] If I were to make an html based (or whatever based) gui for a commandline based ubuntu system (which it is commandline by default), what would be the starting point? where can i learn on how to 'connect' the ui part to the backend part? Here I said 'backend' to the ubuntu system. The 'frontend' would be the html ui. Just like a web app were you can [22:49] decouple the frontend and backend. In my case, the ubuntu system will stream data via socket etc and now the backend and frontend can be on different physical hardware as well as remotely distant [22:50] not talking about cpanel, usermin, webmin, plesk, [22:59] Intelo: A lot of programs that do that use Python === Rhys is now known as Guest7527 [23:09] Hi! i cannot launch qemu(without kvm) if i dont allow 2gb allocation in the box.. i dont get it since i just used -m 256M option... any ideas? [23:14] Jeremy31 what is the mechanism [23:14] Jeremy31 stdin/out or something else and parse the output? [23:15] Intelo: I think the Network Manager uses Python, you could look at the source for that [23:29] GUI tools [23:29] Intelo: You might want to look at freedesktop.org - that's a pretty good collection of [23:29] id_tam: Are you trying to launch a configured VM? [23:30] jhutchins ok [23:32] jhutchins: yes [23:33] id_tam: The machine's probably configured to use 2G then. [23:33] i need to launch a qemu guest without kvm inside a resource limited box of 512m , so i put qemu-system -m 128M or 256M both wont work if there is not allowed to use 2gb [23:34] no because inside the VM if i give 2g then boots, and i see as physical memory the value i used in the option [23:34] the option is taken thats sure, but why it need 4 times the size is actually inside the guest [23:37] id_tam: Did you build the image? [23:38] it does not have nothing to do [23:39] !es [23:39] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.