[11:42] <nicoz> o/
[15:56] <enr0n> o/
[15:58] <schopin> o/
[15:59] <bdmurray> o/
[15:59] <dbungert> o/
[15:59] <ginggs> o/
[15:59] <slyon> o/
[16:00] <sil2100> o/
[16:00] <bdmurray> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[16:00] <bdmurray> #topic Lightning Round
[16:00]  * bdmurray does the shuffle
[16:00] <bdmurray> schopin juliank dbungert jawn-smith bdmurray slyon xypron ginggs mwhudson sil2100 enr0n ogayot vorlon alexghiti waveform doko
[16:00] <bdmurray> schopin:
[16:01] <schopin> * netplan:
[16:01] <schopin>   + Partially addressed the first round of review on #254
[16:01] <schopin>     -> PyYAML is too lenient for its own good :-/
[16:01] <schopin>   + Merged PR 202
[16:01] <schopin>   + Fixed a latent bug introduced by 202 in PR 257
[16:01] <schopin>   + Reviewed and merged PR 258 by slyon fixing a `netplan get` regression
[16:01] <schopin> * openssl:
[16:01] <schopin>   + Patched lua-luaossl (LP: #1959426) and backported a patch for haskell-hsopenssl (LP: #1959572)
[16:01] <schopin>   + NBS: sponsored hydra for dbungert
[16:01] <schopin>   + NBS: fixed h2o ruby 3.0 compat to get it migrating
[16:01] <schopin>   + NBS: massaged debcargo into the release pocket along with a good chunk of the Rust ecosystem
[16:01] <schopin>   + Asked a RM for tpm2-tss-engine, and looked into tpm2-openssl for potential inclusion in the archive (currently in Debian NEW). Related: LP: #1959414, LP: #1959901, LP: #1958439, https://bugs.debian.org/1004491
[16:01] <schopin> * rust:
[16:01] <schopin>   + worked a bit more on the MIR, which just had the first round of review (LP: #1957932)
[16:01] <schopin> * various:
[16:01] <schopin>   + worked on sponsoring libica for fheimes (still WIP) LP: #1959421
[16:01] <schopin>   + sponsored aiocoap for xypron (LP: #1959315)
[16:01] <schopin>   + patched bpython for python3.10 compatibility
[16:01] <schopin> ✓ done
[16:01] <bdmurray> juliank:
[16:02] <juliank> * grub2 upstream work
[16:02] <juliank> * released apt 2.3.15
[16:02] <juliank> * some discussions about deb822 sources.list by default, Debian docker images
[16:02] <juliank> * reviewing grub2 riscv64 work from xypron
[16:02] <juliank> (done ish)
[16:02] <dbungert> * python3-defaults vs cdist - get commits from upstream LP: #1959330
[16:02] <dbungert> * python3-defaults vs hy - some work stream for py3.10, but seems to be
[16:02] <dbungert> incomplete.  Investigating.
[16:02] <dbungert> * subiquity - split out serializer fix from other PR + add test. Merged.
[16:02] <dbungert> * +1: hydra - fix FTBFS by adjusting include paths.
[16:02] <dbungert> LP: #1959622, upstream PR merged, forwarded to Debian
[16:02] <dbungert> * +1: rebuild requests - facter LP: #1959700 (thanks Simon), rhash LP: #1959840
[16:02] <dbungert> * +1: opensurgsim - a variety of different build failures, most pressing one
[16:02] <dbungert> related to libeigen3 changes.  Working on upstreaming a bug about this, but
[16:02] <dbungert> upstream main branch doesn't build either.  LP: #1959839
[16:02] <dbungert> * +1: validns - updated test suite for changed openssl3 error strings
[16:02] <dbungert> LP: #1959855, forwarded to upstream, in sponsor queue.
[16:02] <dbungert> (done)
[16:02] <jawn-smith> * ubuntu-image
[16:02] <jawn-smith>     * Taipei team needs the option to run --snap when using --filesystem with preseeded filesystems
[16:02] <jawn-smith>         * Have local changes to do just that, but need snapd changes PRd as well
[16:02] <jawn-smith>     * Investigating incorrectly patchelf'd binaries, found workaround and reported root cause on LP: #1928209
[16:02] <jawn-smith>     * slog through strace logs to preemptively find any more possible issues with file reads outside of snap confinement
[16:02] <jawn-smith>         * Resulted in https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11320
[16:03] <jawn-smith> * Uploaded Go 1.18 to Debian, needs merge soon.
[16:03] <jawn-smith> * proposed migration: ansible vs python3.10
[16:03] <jawn-smith>     * current version depends on python3-crypto which has been removed from the archive
[16:03] <jawn-smith>     * newer version available in Debian experimental but tests are still failing
[16:03] <jawn-smith> * FTBFS: icu
[16:03] <jawn-smith>     * newer version available in Debian experimental but also FTBFS. Still investigating
[16:03] <jawn-smith> [done]
[16:03] <ahasenack> I worked a bit on ansible, wrt "<jawn-smith>     * current version depends on python3-crypto which has been removed from the archive" from jawn-smith. Can talk later about it.
[16:03] <jawn-smith> oh great, thanks!
[16:03] <ahasenack> have patches for those issues
[16:04] <ahasenack> but it fails to install due to something else
[16:04] <sil2100> bdmurray: !
[16:04] <ahasenack> even current jammy one. There is a broken symlink in the deb
[16:04] <ahasenack> carry on
[16:04] <bdmurray> I didn't want to interrupt this valuable conversation
[16:04] <ahasenack> sorry
[16:04] <bdmurray> investigated aiofiles test failure and submitted a PR to debian to fix it
[16:04] <bdmurray> uploade aiofiles to jammy to facilitate the python3.10 transition
[16:04] <bdmurray> added a release note entry (II, JJ) for the slow boot from optical media bug
[16:04] <bdmurray> tested software-properties MP regarding ppa.launchpadcontent.net
[16:04] <bdmurray> updated wiki page for EoL process with information from previous EoLs
[16:04] <bdmurray> worked on the EoL of 21.04
[16:04] <bdmurray> reviewed, merged slangasek's changes to u-r-u removing the partner archive
[16:04] <bdmurray> updated the autopkgtests which broke with the above change
[16:05] <bdmurray> uploaded bsdmainutils with the Impish release date b/c its in the NewRelease process
[16:05] <bdmurray> reported ubuntu-release-upgrader bug 1959458
[16:05] <bdmurray> reported a debian bug re: bsdmainutils and dropping calendar.ubuntu
[16:05] <bdmurray> reviewed, synced libatomic-ops
[16:05] <bdmurray> sru-reviews and releases
[16:05] <bdmurray> administrative work
[16:05] <bdmurray> preparing for and conducting interviews
[16:05] <bdmurray> ahasenack: no problem we appreciate it
[16:05] <bdmurray> mentoring
[16:05] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:05] <slyon> - proposed-migration: gnome-gmail, wget, ruby-pygments.rb & systemd vs dnsmasq
[16:05] <slyon> - Sponsorings: logrotate LP: #1958887, acpid LP: #1958897, gitsome LP: #1959377
[16:05] <slyon> - Sync'ed mtr (dropped my previous Ubuntu delta, that made it upstream)
[16:05] <slyon> - subiquity review for bug #1953744
[16:05] <slyon> - rebuilt s390-tools[-signed] for schopin (needs ubuntu-release review)
[16:05] <slyon> - Enablement of systemd-oomd in desktop-minimal seed & ubuntu-meta package:
[16:05] <slyon>   https://code.launchpad.net/~slyon/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/+merge/414794
[16:05] <slyon>   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2022-January/041819.html
[16:05] <slyon>   + Also fixes bug #1955997 (needs SRU)
[16:05] <slyon>   + Also fixes bug #1957086
[16:05] <slyon> - MIR review of v4l2-relayd & some coordination, LP: #1958109
[16:05] <slyon> - Landing NetworkManager snap improvement (after 2 months!):
[16:05] <slyon>   https://code.launchpad.net/~slyon/snappy-hwe-snaps/+git/network-manager/+merge/412634
[16:05] <slyon> [16:05] <slyon> - some release planning
[16:05] <slyon> - implementation & testing of SmartNIC enablement
[16:05] <slyon>   + got some positive feedback from the openstack team
[16:05] <slyon>   + https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/253
[16:05] <slyon> - Discovered & fixed issue in new 'netplan get':
[16:05] <slyon>   https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/258
[16:05] <slyon> - Reviewed: https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/254
[16:05] <slyon> - Merged https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/202 (cc @waveform)
[16:05] <slyon> (done)
[16:06] <xypron> aiocoap - autopkgtest fixed in proposed LP: #1959315
[16:06] <xypron> make-dfsg - 4.3-4.1ubuntu2 needs a sponsor: LP #989961
[16:06] <xypron> mkinitramfs - fix compression time: other packager was faster, need to rebase LP #1958148
[16:06] <xypron> golang-github-containers-toolbox - 0.0.99.2-2ubuntu1 still has no sponsor LP: #1958132
[16:06] <xypron> RISC-V support for GRUB was reviewed by juliank. New version provided in git LP: #1876620, #1947046
[16:06] <xypron> Testing alexghiti 's binaries on VisionFive board.
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[16:07] <bdmurray> ginggs:
[16:07] <ginggs> * Working on FTBFS and autopkgtest regressions in Python 3.10-as-default transition
[16:07] <ginggs> * FTBFS reports
[16:07] <ginggs> * Sponsored some uploads; cdist, smc-tools and unbound
[16:07] <ginggs> * Got a new 8GB Raspberry Pi and a VisionFive \o/
[16:07] <ginggs> (done)
[16:08] <bdmurray> sil2100:
[16:08] <sil2100> * SRU reviews and releases
[16:08] <sil2100> * 20.04.4:
[16:08] <sil2100>   - Created public tracking document
[16:08] <sil2100>   - Created Jira Release Team tasks
[16:08] <sil2100>   - Pushed forward with multiple preparation tasks: cdimage, debian-cd, check-ups, isotracker
[16:08] <sil2100>   - Poking around for SRUs for .4: fwupd, grub, linux-firmware-raspi2 etc.
[16:08] <sil2100> * Addressed WSL notify-isotracker comments, modified approach to a more dynamic one
[16:08] <sil2100>   - Ready for review again
[16:08] <sil2100> * Xilinx:
[16:08] <sil2100>   - Work on updating Vitis-AI to 2.0
[16:08] <sil2100>   - Fixed compilation errors for above, installation errors, repackaging tarball for compliance
[16:08] <sil2100>   - Filling in bugs and PRs for some of the needed changes
[16:09] <sil2100>   - Prepared experimental xrt rename packages to change versioning scheme (epochs are not wanted)
[16:09] <sil2100> * Builder summit meeting - starting nice discussion regarding UI's model signing and rootfs reuse
[16:09] <sil2100> * Merging KDE frontend password-reveal ubiquity UI
[16:09] <sil2100> * Review of ubiquity MP for Steve for deprecating partner - almost there
[16:09] <sil2100> * Candidate interview
[16:09] <sil2100> * More work done on the ubuntu-image classic image build redesign spec
[16:09] <sil2100> * Investigating some Canonistack issues with accessing my instances
[16:09] <sil2100> * Debugging security-britney strangeness when trying to access ESM test results - unauthenticated errors
[16:09] <sil2100>   - Added some debugging info but so far just spinning in circles
[16:09] <sil2100> * Product discussions
[16:09] <sil2100> * ubuntu-image discussions
[16:09] <sil2100> (done)
[16:09] <bdmurray> enr0n:
[16:09] <enr0n> * General onboarding stuff (autopkgtest, PPA, sbuild, other tooling setup)
[16:09] <enr0n> * Working ubuntu-release-upgrader bugs with bdmurray (LP #1947581, LP #1901797)
[16:09] <enr0n> * Looked at autopkgtest failure for python-gmpy2 (python3-defaults trigger). Debian uploaded new version
[16:09] <enr0n>   that fixed the problem.
[16:09] <enr0n> (done)
[16:09] <ogayot>  * freezegun autopkgtest: patch submitted in Ubuntu for sponsoring (LP #1959397). Will be superseded by new upstream version in Debian.
[16:10] <ogayot>  * error-reporting: created PPA ppa:~ogayot/error-reporting with whoopsie running in path-based activation mode. whoopsie, apport, whoopsie-preferences & update-notifier affected by the change. Manual tests in progress. (LP #1424768)
[16:10] <ogayot>  * subiquity:
[16:10] <ogayot>     * exposed API to check UA contract token and list activable services
[16:10] <ogayot>     * third-party drivers: troubleshooting mount failure deep inside the installation overlays. Initial PR (server-only) to be opened once crash is resolved.
[16:10] <ogayot>  * merge of plymouth: working on it. Still a lot to do.
[16:10] <ogayot> (done)
[16:10] <alexghiti> Ruby-pygments.rb synced from debian
[16:10] <alexghiti> Work on kernel 5.17 for RISC-V
[16:10] <alexghiti> Bring-up VisionFive board (update u-boot-starfive, linux-firmware-starfive in RISC-V ubuntu develop PPA)
[16:10] <alexghiti> (done)
[16:11] <bdmurray> waveform:
[16:11] <waveform> * Rename of linux-firmware-raspi{2,} (LP: #1950632) now landed; x_nox kindly filed removal request for old name in jammy (LP: #1959692)
[16:11] <waveform> * Working on debhelper restart issue (LP: #1959054)
[16:11] <waveform> * Packaged rpiboot for inclusion (LP: #1959592)
[16:11] <waveform> * Investigated uc22 snapd issue
[16:11] <waveform> * Merged Pi Zero 2 changes (and serial changes) to pi-gadget (https://github.com/snapcore/pi-gadget/pull/82)
[16:11] <waveform> * Interview
[16:11] <waveform> * Pi meetings
[16:11] <waveform> * Merge of iniparser (LP: #1959346)
[16:11] <waveform> (done)
[16:11] <doko> - more binutils issues addressed: xen build issue, armhf cross build issue
[16:11] <doko> - updated cross-toolchain-base packages, and checked with glibc-2.35
[16:11] <doko> - mw hudson expects to upload the new glibc before the weekend
[16:11] <doko> - more ocaml transition cleanup (llvm-toolchain-*)
[16:11] <doko> - minor archive admin work
[16:11] <doko> - some more merges
[16:11] <doko> - still having a cold
[16:11] <doko> (done)
[16:11] <bdmurray> Any questions on status?
[16:12] <jawn-smith> waveform: did you see linux-firmware-raspi is stuck in proposed?
[16:12] <waveform> jawn-smith, yup -- I need to investigate that
[16:12] <jawn-smith> cool lmk if I can help at all
[16:13] <bdmurray> #topic Release Incoming Bugs
[16:13] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:13] <sergiodj> doko: I'm working on a tentative fix for llvm-toolchain-12
[16:13] <sergiodj> re. ocaml transition
[16:13] <sergiodj> I'm running autopkgtests now
[16:13] <doko> sergiodj, fixing what?
[16:13] <sergiodj> doko: the llvm-toolchain-12 failure
[16:13] <doko> it is fixed
[16:14] <kanashiro> I also did some test retriggers to try to unblock ocaml, it is blocking ruby-defaults right now
[16:14] <sergiodj> doko: where?
[16:14] <doko> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-12/1:12.0.1-19ubuntu1
[16:14] <sergiodj> doesn't seem to fix the problem: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/l/llvm-toolchain-12/jammy/amd64
[16:15] <bdmurray> Can the llvm conversation move to #ubuntu-devel? Thanks
[16:15] <bdmurray> bug 1958720
[16:15] <sergiodj> sure
[16:16] <bdmurray> It looks like the server team will take that
[16:16] <bdmurray> bug 1959458
[16:16] <bdmurray> I did an upgrade recently and the screen became locked which isn't supposed to happen
[16:16] <bdmurray> This might be good for enr0n since they are looking at u-r-u now
[16:17] <bdmurray> So let's card and tag that
[16:17] <bdmurray> I mean target not tag
[16:17] <bdmurray> bug 1959362
[16:18] <bdmurray> That's assigned to seb so let's leave it be
[16:18] <bdmurray> bug 1948714 the reporter got back to me
[16:19] <bdmurray> and they used a cute password "Thanks#Brian"
[16:19] <bdmurray> which registed as Thanks/Brian so it does sound like sil2100's bug
[16:20] <bdmurray> agreed?
[16:20] <sil2100> Yes, indeed, looks like a duplicate of that
[16:20] <bdmurray> Okay, I'll mark it as such
[16:20] <sil2100> Might need to get back to it eventually - at least now they can check the password as a workaround!
[16:21] <bdmurray> I guess we should release note using the "eye" then
[16:21] <sil2100> The other bug is carded and 'in progress-ish', so all good
[16:22] <bdmurray> rls-ii is empty
[16:22] <bdmurray> and so is rls-ff
[16:22] <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[16:22] <jawn-smith> Let's focus on python3-defaults
[16:23] <schopin> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:23] <ahasenack> I'm working on python-fysom, python-furl
[16:23] <jawn-smith> aiocoap was xypron, which you said needs sponsoring, correct?
[16:23] <ahasenack> and possibly other of the same class, which is "cannot import name 'MutableMapping' from 'collections' "
[16:23] <ahasenack> a change in py3.10
[16:23] <xypron> jawn-smith: yes
[16:24] <bdmurray> ahasenack: did you try searching the logs for that error?
[16:24] <schopin> jawn-smith: aiocoap was sponsored though.
[16:24] <jawn-smith> excellent. xypron: keras?
[16:24] <ahasenack> bdmurray: not yet, first two python packages I grabbed had the same, so I'm calling it a class already
[16:24] <xypron> jawn-smith: aiocoap - autopkgtest fixed in proposed LP: #1959315
[16:24] <jawn-smith> excellent thanks
[16:24] <bdmurray> it might just need retrying
[16:24] <xypron> ok I will look into keras
[16:24] <ahasenack> bdmurray: my case? It needed a fix from upstream
[16:25] <jawn-smith> bdmurray: kleborate?
[16:25] <ginggs> xypron: did you see https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#aiocoap still fails?
[16:25] <bdmurray> it being aiocoap
[16:25] <jawn-smith> ansible is me and ahasenack still
[16:25] <ahasenack> my problem with ansible is this:
[16:25] <ahasenack> $ sudo py3compile -p ansible
[16:25] <ahasenack> [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/python3.10/dist-packages/ansible/module_utils/ansible_release.py'
[16:26] <ahasenack> any new build produces that broken symlink
[16:26] <ahasenack> $ dpkg -L ansible|grep ansible_release\\.py
[16:26] <ahasenack> er
[16:26] <ahasenack> $ dpkg -L ansible|grep ansible_release\\.py
[16:26] <jawn-smith> ahasenack: Indeed, I've seen that one too. Let's tag up about it after this meeting
[16:26] <ahasenack>  /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/ansible/module_utils/ansible_release.py
[16:26] <ahasenack>  /usr/lib/python3.10/dist-packages/ansible/module_utils/ansible_release.py
[16:26] <ahasenack> the python3.10 symlink is broken
[16:26] <ahasenack> and is new, the current jammy build has just the python3 one (first line)
[16:26] <ahasenack> ok
[16:27] <jawn-smith> booth: sil2100
[16:27] <jawn-smith> should that stay with you?
[16:28] <sil2100> Yes, I didn't manage to look yet
[16:28] <sil2100> Let me actually create a card this time!
[16:28] <jawn-smith> bpython is schopin
[16:28] <schopin> just a matter of retrying, in the queue rn.
[16:28] <jawn-smith> looks like we may have skipped breezy last time. who wants it?
[16:29] <waveform> ccdproc just needs someone to bash the retry button as 2.30 in proposed fixes the issue (at least on arm64), so I can take another
[16:29] <schopin> I'll take breezy.
[16:29] <jawn-smith> waveform: remind me after this meeting to bash that button :)
[16:30] <jawn-smith> juliank: djangorestframework
[16:30]  * juliank needs to add a reminder
[16:30] <jawn-smith> freezegun is ogayot
[16:31] <ogayot> currently, I unsubscribed sponsors because there's a new version in proposed migration that should land soon
[16:31] <jawn-smith> does it need any test retries or anything?
[16:31] <ogayot> tests are still in progress, so currently no
[16:31] <jawn-smith> okay great
[16:31] <slyon> waveform: jawn-smith: I kicked ccdproc
[16:31] <jawn-smith> gitsome was alexghiti
[16:31] <jawn-smith> slyon: thanks!
[16:32] <alexghiti5> gitsome was uploaded already
[16:32] <slyon> gitsome was sponsored... probably needs retry vs python3-defaults
[16:32] <jawn-smith> alright, noted another button to bash
[16:32] <jawn-smith> schopin: you said you were working on hy?
[16:33] <schopin> yeah
[16:33] <jawn-smith> excellent, thanks
[16:33] <jawn-smith> who doesn't have one?
[16:33] <dbungert> I need one
[16:33] <alexghiti5> I don't
[16:33] <jawn-smith> dbungert: lazygal?
[16:33] <slyon> alexghiti5: I kicked gitsome
[16:33] <slyon> jawn-smith: also, I don't have one
[16:33] <waveform> I don't have one
[16:33] <dbungert> jawn-smith: ack
[16:34] <jawn-smith> alexghiti5: libapache2-mod-python?
[16:34] <alexghiti5> slyon thanks, this is the same error as before my patch so that should be ok
[16:34] <jawn-smith> slyon: link-grammar?
[16:34] <slyon> ack
[16:34] <alexghiti5> jawn-smith: ack
[16:34] <jawn-smith> waveform: mando?
[16:34] <waveform> jawn-smith, ack
[16:34] <jawn-smith> I believe mailman3 is with mwhudson right?
[16:34] <jawn-smith> that's why I skipped that one
[16:34] <bdmurray> that's my recollection
[16:34] <ogayot> I can pick one as well
[16:34] <jawn-smith> also lefse may just need a test retry as it's only s390x
[16:34] <jawn-smith> ogayot: mosquitto?
[16:35] <ogayot> ack
[16:35] <ginggs> lefse might need a hint
[16:35] <jawn-smith> I'll check on lefse
[16:35] <enr0n> I can take one
[16:35] <jawn-smith> enr0n: nanolyse?
[16:35] <enr0n> Sure
[16:35] <jawn-smith> bdmurray: openmotor?
[16:35] <bdmurray> okay
[16:35] <jawn-smith> I think that's everyone
[16:36] <jawn-smith> If you finish yours quickly please feel free to take another :)
[16:37] <jawn-smith> oh doko: do you have bandwidth to take one?
[16:38] <doko> sure
[16:38] <jawn-smith> how about pcapy?
[16:38] <bdmurray> what happend to onnx
[16:38] <jawn-smith> reading is hard, that's what happened
[16:39] <doko> ok
[16:39] <jawn-smith> doko how about onnx then?
[16:39] <jawn-smith> up to you
[16:39] <doko> ok
[16:39] <slyon> waveform: ccdproc is still failing
[16:39] <waveform> slyon, okay -- I'll take another look
[16:39] <jawn-smith> then ginggs can take pcapy?
[16:40] <ginggs> sure
[16:40] <jawn-smith> okay now I think that's everyone
[16:40] <jawn-smith> back to you bdmurray
[16:40] <bdmurray> okay, thanks jawn-smith
[16:40] <bdmurray> #topic AOB
[16:41] <bdmurray> Anything else?
[16:41] <bdmurray> Remember Feature Freeze is coming
[16:42] <schopin> Oh I have something
[16:42] <schopin> src:rustc currently embeds a copy of LLVM.
[16:42] <ahasenack> wat
[16:43] <schopin> It is splittable (Debian does it), but rustc will likely be upgraded during the lifetime of our LTS because of Firefox
[16:44] <schopin> which likely means bumped LLVM requirements.
[16:45] <schopin> I don't know if adding new versions of LLVM in the archive during its lifetime is feasible? And if so, should we remove the previous extra ones once we introduce new ones?
[16:45] <bdmurray> Is there a question here?
[16:45] <doko> talk with mwhudson abour rustc
[16:45] <bdmurray> +1
[16:45] <schopin> it's not just about rustc though!
[16:47] <bdmurray> We'll have this discussion somewhere else.
[16:47] <bdmurray> Thanks everybody.
[16:47] <bdmurray> #endmeeting
[16:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 16:47:43 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-02-03-16.00.moin.txt
[16:47] <sil2100> o/
[16:48] <jawn-smith> o/
[19:58] <Wild_Man> diddledani are you here?
[19:59] <diddledani> hello
[19:59] <Wild_Man> Hi diddledani
[20:01] <diddledani> jchittum: are you around?
[20:02] <jchittum> yes, I am here
[20:02] <diddledani> ok let's go
[20:02] <diddledani> gimme a sec to file the paperwork
[20:03] <diddledani> #startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board
[20:03] <meetingology> Meeting started at 20:03:28 UTC.  The chair is diddledani.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
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[20:03] <diddledani> here comes the big paste intro
[20:03] <diddledani> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for 3rd February 2022. The wiki page for the Review Boards is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[20:03] <diddledani> We will attempt to get through all the applicants that have added themselves to that list, or posted a thread to the Ubuntu Discourse, before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the complete list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[20:03] <diddledani> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[20:03] <diddledani> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page or Ubuntu Discourse thread. After the introduction, the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[20:03] <diddledani> During this time, it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[20:03] <diddledani> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If most of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (Feel free congratulate them!)
[20:03] <diddledani> Now, with any further ado, let's get started with the first applicant...
[20:04] <diddledani> jchittum: could you please introduce yourself to the board members and share the links to your wiki and launchpad pages and discourse post if you filed one
[20:04] <jchittum> Yes, first off discourse: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/john-chittum-jchittum-j5awry-membership-application/26347
[20:04] <jchittum> launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~jchittum
[20:06] <diddledani> thanks, do you have a prepared statement?
[20:06] <jchittum> Hello all! I'm John Chittum. I'm an engineering manager on the Canonical Public Cloud team. I've been an Ubuntu user for years, professionally since about 2014. I've been a jack of all trades, working as a sys admin for Ubuntu systems, to a sys eng installing and maintaining wide geo-distributed servers, to a web deb, and finally on the CPC team. I hang with the local LUG group (Kansas City)
[20:07] <jchittum> my open source work for Ubuntu has primarily been in livecd-rootfs, but i've also done some work on cloud-init recently.
[20:07] <jchittum> my big goal is to make how we build Ubuntu cloud images more transparent to everyone, and make the process easier for the community
[20:09] <diddledani> awesome. I'll let the board members have a few minutes to read through your discourse post and then we'll see if anyone has any questions
[20:09] <Wild_Man> jchittum, impressive work and testimonials
[20:11] <jchittum> Wild_Man: TY. I've had the privilege of working with a lot of fantastic Ubuntu members
[20:12] <diddledani> first question from me, more a formality to dot the tees and cross the eyes; you've signed the code of conduct, did you and do you understand the terms it contains and do you agree to abide by them for the duration of your membership?
[20:12] <jchittum> Yes, I understand the terms and agree to abide by them
[20:12] <diddledani> awesome :-)
[20:12] <diddledani> that's the script done with then. open floor for questions time :-D
[20:13] <diddledani> do any board members wish to ask a question or two?
[20:14] <Wild_Man> I do not
[20:14] <Bashing-om> no questions from me - I have encountered jchittum's works a number of times always positive in nature.
[20:14] <diddledani> thought as much ;-) we have a very strong candidate :-D
[20:15] <diddledani> ok, in that case then, let's speed along to the vote (wait till I've filed the two commands)
[20:15] <Wild_Man> Ready to vote
[20:15] <diddledani> #vote jchittum 's membership application
[20:15] <meetingology> Please vote on: jchittum 's membership application
[20:15] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')
[20:15] <diddledani> #cotors Bashing-om Wild_Man diddledani
[20:15] <diddledani> #votors Bashing-om Wild_Man diddledani
[20:15] <diddledani> #voters Bashing-om Wild_Man diddledani
[20:15] <meetingology> Current voters: Bashing-om, Wild_Man, diddledani
[20:15] <diddledani> I will get the hang of driving this thing one day
[20:16] <Bashing-om> +1 vorlon
[20:16] <meetingology> +1 vorlon received from Bashing-om
[20:16] <Wild_Man> +1
[20:16] <meetingology> +1 received from Wild_Man
[20:16] <diddledani> +1 there's no doubt in my mind, jchittum , you're a great contributor with longstanding contributions and are well respected in the community
[20:16] <meetingology> +1 there's no doubt in my mind, jchittum , you're a great contributor with longstanding contributions and are well respected in the community received from diddledani
[20:16] <diddledani> #endvote
[20:16] <meetingology> Voting ended on: jchittum 's membership application
[20:16] <meetingology> Votes for: 3, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0
[20:16] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:16] <diddledani> well then. whodathunk
[20:17] <Wild_Man> Congratulations jchittum
[20:17] <CodeMouse92> WOOOOO jchittum!!!
[20:17] <jchittum> Thank you everyone. Hopefully I can keep being a positive contributor :)
[20:17] <Wild_Man> I will had him to launchpad unless someone else wants to do the honors
[20:17] <Wild_Man> had/add
[20:18] <Bashing-om> jchittum: \o/ - now that orange glow brightens even more - congratulations.
[20:18] <diddledani> congratulations jchittum . I'll add you to the members group shortly after which you can request your certificate from sabdfl via https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/. Your @ubuntu.com email will go live within 48 hours (don't set it as your launchpad's primary email as that will cause loops)
[20:18] <diddledani> don't forget to check the rest of the perks at the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[20:18] <jchittum> will do. Thanks!
[20:18] <diddledani> and with that I'll end the meeting
[20:18] <diddledani> #endmeeting
[20:19] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 20:18:59 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-02-03-20.03.moin.txt
[20:19] <diddledani> thank you everyone for your time :-)
[20:20] <Wild_Man> You're very welcome
[20:21] <Wild_Man> Thank you
[20:27] <nicoz> :)
[20:27] <nicoz> congratulation jchittum ;)
[20:28] <nicoz> hi diddledani Wild_Man Bashing-om :*
[20:28] <Wild_Man> Hi nicoz
[20:30] <nicoz> How’s it going?
[20:30] <jchittum> TY nicoz
[20:33] <nicoz> jchittum https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/john-chittum-jchittum-j5awry-membership-application/26347 I saw your requirements, I had no doubt :)