[00:50] <mannequin> how is the work on 22.04 going?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> mannequin: Michael says "appears to be in good shape" : https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-510-wayland :P
[01:01] <mannequin> i still rather slack with upgrading untill it gets usable
[01:56] <tomreyn> that's not work on 22.04 but work on their driver which nvidia should have been doing 5 years ago.
[15:03] <Maik> mannequin: 22.04 is usable however i would advice to a regular userlike yourself to upgrade to 22.04 once the first point release comes out, probably in July, 22.04.1. By that time most bugs should have been fixed from April to july.
[15:04] <mannequin> i will wait till may
[15:04] <mannequin> because that's when kernel 5.13 eols
[15:04] <Maik> nope
[15:04] <mannequin> and 5.14 is a nasty unusable kernel
[15:05] <mannequin> i've been told 5.13 eols in may
[15:05] <Maik> 5.13 EOLs in July and 22.04 already has 5.15 at the moment with which the will stick
[15:05] <Maik> the/they
[15:05] <mannequin> so i will wait untill july
[15:06] <Maik> do whatever you like
[15:06] <mannequin> i will
[15:06] <Maik> good
[15:06] <mannequin> i don't want kernel 5.14 and i don't want early stage ubuntu lts
[15:06] <Maik> anyway, the 5.15 kernel arrived on my 22.04 Pi install yesterday
[15:07] <mannequin> today i wasted 2 hours fixing stuff that happened because i ran 5.14 by accident
[15:07] <Maik> mannequin: there's no 5.14 kernel in 22.04
[15:07] <mannequin> but there is in 20.04
[15:07] <mannequin> and i run 20.04
[15:07] <Maik> not by default and 20.04 uses the 5.13 HWE kernel
[15:08] <mannequin> i run on 5.13 as well
[15:08] <Maik> so you installed 5.14 yourself
[15:08] <mannequin> not really, it got smuggled in the updates
[15:08] <Maik> impossible
[15:08] <mannequin> that or i got drunk and i can't remember
[15:08] <Maik> probably
[15:09] <Maik> because on 20.04 they went from 5.11 to 5.13
[15:10] <Maik> anyway, 22.04 has the 5.15 kernel and it runs all fine so far
[15:10] <mannequin> for a reason i had 5.14 running and it's comparable to unstable windows systems on my machines
[15:10] <mannequin> i am suprised it even ran at all
[15:10] <mannequin> my computers are amd and they messed with amd in 5.14 a lot
[15:11] <Maik> anyway, we're offtopic now
[15:12] <mannequin> k
[15:29] <enyc> Hrrm
[15:29] <enyc> 5.15 has become upstream LTS
[15:30] <enyc> kernel.org LTS
[15:30] <enyc> maik: the interesting thing will be if 22.04 will use 5.15 or if there will be a newer-series that canonical self-maintain as lts
[15:31] <enyc> I would like to know if ubuntu are looking at  zramswap  being enabled by default ....
[15:31] <Maik> the will use 5.15
[15:31] <enyc> this makes huge difference to some I know, very useful
[15:31] <Maik> the/they
[15:32] <Maik> the news about that has been out for a while now
[15:32] <Maik> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-22.04-LTS-Linux-5.15
[16:36] <enyc> Maik: oooh i did'nt see that but it makes sense
[21:28] <mannequin> i need some assistance on pinning jammy to my focal
[21:41] <tarzeau> why pin? just use focal OR 22.04
[21:46] <mannequin> i need new kernel
[21:46] <mannequin> i know how to pin but on debian
[21:46] <mannequin> i want jammy kernel
[21:47] <mannequin> 5.13.28 lock up my machine, i have to use .27
[21:47] <mannequin> locks*
[21:49] <tarzeau> my 22.04 have 5.15.0-18
[21:49] <tarzeau> why not take jammy completely?
[23:10]  * Maik wonders how many times a day mannequin is going to repeat the same thing over again.
[23:11] <Maik> we know by now the .28 kernel version locks up your system
[23:12] <Maik> also you use focal which is offtopic here