[01:11] <DoYouKnow> how do I set the MSS to a non-zero modulus of 2?
[01:12] <DoYouKnow> I did this in freebsd by specifying the kernel variable to be an odd-numbered MSS
[01:19] <DoYouKnow> are there any programs/exploits for linux that use TEMPEST-like technology for SATCOM?
[02:01] <jhutchins> Three undefined acronyms in one post.
[02:11] <sarnold> jhutchins: MSS is "maximum segment size", a TCP option that thankfully most people never need to know about :) "TEMPEST" was the name of equipment used to read electromagnetic radiation sidechannels from computers twenty or thirty years ago. SATCOM is satellite communications.
[02:15] <jhutchins> I'm sure there's a reasonable way to eavesdrop on satellite communications.  That is, after all, why they encrypt it.
[02:15] <jhutchins> I doubt if it has anything to do with network data traffic segmentation.
[02:16] <jhutchins> I rather think that this subject is one of those "if you don't know how, you shouldn't be messing with it" things.
[02:18] <sarnold> well, some people have loads of fun decoding the signals from sats, https://diy.manko.pro/en/2021/06/23/how-to-receive-iss-sstv-with-rtl-sdr-en/  :)
[02:18] <sarnold> actually transmitting *to* sats is certainly in that realm, most countries require licensing to do that
[02:19] <sarnold> I think these folks have some satellites just for that :) https://www.amsat.org/
[02:20] <jhutchins> Well, you can transmit to sats, there is some question whether they will listen.
[02:20] <sarnold> lol
[02:26] <DoYouKnow> jhutchins, are you a chanop here?
[02:36] <jhutchins> DoYouKnow: Not at the moment, no.
[02:36] <jhutchins> 2~2~2~
[02:36] <DoYouKnow> I was just curious
[02:36] <DoYouKnow> I like ubuntu nowadays, it's even better than before with not including lots of bugs
[02:37] <DoYouKnow> in terms of shielding things like TEMPEST entirely
[02:37] <DoYouKnow> the signals can still crossmodulate
[02:37] <Eickmeyer> Let's try to keep it on-topic, guys. This is a channel for tech support only. :)
[02:37] <DoYouKnow> ok
[02:45] <jhutchins> Specifically Ubuntu tech support.
[03:01] <parakovsky> guys i have no idea how to patch kernel i need to do this to make a cheap bluetooth aliexpress usb adapter to work i found instructions but no idea how to proceed can somebody hook me up with simplified instructions about kernel patching pls
[03:01] <parakovsky> https://askubuntu.com/a/1222944
[03:01] <parakovsky> This is what I am trying to do
[03:03] <sarnold> parakovsky: did you see this comment? "on Ubuntu 20.20, options btusb enable_autosuspend=n to /etc/modprobe.d/bluetooth-usb.conf was enough. modprobe -r did not work, (re)plug and play did."
[03:37] <parakovsky> sarnold: not really worried about it being working wrong with usb auto suspend, the dongle didn't seem to work at all without kernel patching or whatever
[03:56] <zeeshan> Hi there. When I leave my laptop for some time . Airplane mode enables. Then whatever I do it does not disables. Means I cannot use wifi . I have only one solution that is to restart my laptop to use wifi. Is there any solution?
[03:57] <zeeshan> There is no hardware switch in my HP Pavilion laptop.
[03:59] <tomreyn> airplane mode would not enable by itself normally. maybe the laptop is trying to switch power saving modes or to enter suspend, but fails. your logs should tell.
[04:00] <tomreyn> other than diagnosing what's being logged you could also try a bios update, for the rather likely case that this is actually bios related. another otion could be to disable power saving for the wireless lan driver.
[04:01] <tomreyn> but it would be better to first get a better understanding of what's actually happening
[04:22] <Archdave> Hai
[05:11] <ViperXL75> So I'm making progress. I've noticed that whenever i reboot my Ubuntu machine (connected to the HDMI-loopthrough of my Xbox), the XBOX must be turned on, before I'm able to see the GUI via VNC. Otherwise i get a black-blanked screen only showing a mouse. I have to turn on the XBOX (which enables the HDMI i guess) and then press CTRL+ALT+F1 and CTRL+ALT+F2 afterwards. Then I get GUI.
[05:12] <ViperXL75> I have a theory that as long as the Ubuntu machine isn't seeing an active device connected to it's HDMI, it won't jump into fully working GUI or something. But It's not stuck because if i enter via VNC it will be showing a black screen with the arrow moving. And VNC connects without giving errors. So I'm theorizing that some resolution is confused, or X might be waiting on some signal before showing the GUI. :(
[05:13] <matsaman> what part does the xbox play?
[05:13] <ViperXL75> Swimming in deep waters here. Anyone care to throw me a lifesaver?
[05:13] <ViperXL75> I'm using the XBOXs HDMI loopthrough. So the signal goes from Ubuntu->XBOX->TV
[05:14] <matsaman> can't you run it directly to the TV, skipping the xbox?
[05:14] <ViperXL75> I have a feeling that somehow i need to tell the Ubuntu X to stop looking for some signal coming from "the other end" before doing its GUI thing.
[05:14] <ViperXL75> The TV is prehistoric. Only got 1 HDMI. xD
[05:15] <matsaman> no other ins?
[05:15] <ViperXL75> precisely
[05:15] <matsaman> toss it
[05:15] <ViperXL75> well old school SCART
[05:15] <ViperXL75> hahahah
[05:15] <matsaman> or get a little video switch or receiver or something
[05:15] <matsaman> an hdmi switch would be dirt cheap
[05:16] <matsaman> but seriously, my s/o got our last TV off facebook marketplace or something for $40
[05:16] <ViperXL75> So there's no way to tell Ubuntu-X to stop looking for the other end and just force it to go on the correct output or resolution?
[05:16] <matsaman> it has 3 HDMI ports
[05:16] <ViperXL75> This started happening a while ago after Ubuntu got one of those life updates
[05:16] <matsaman> I don't know. You could play around with xrandr
[05:16] <ViperXL75> xrandr u say?
[05:16] <matsaman> switch the output with xrandr, or switch it twice
[05:16] <ViperXL75> hmm
[05:17] <matsaman> oh so it used to work fine?
[05:17] <genii-core> Does xrandr even work now with Wayland?
[05:17] <bob> hi all just wondering if you could share any commands to lookup dns have used this so far nmcli device show <interfacename> | grep IP4.DNS
[05:17] <matsaman> genii-core: is Ubuntu wayland by default now?
[05:17] <genii-core> Yes
[05:17] <matsaman> is Debian?
[05:17] <ViperXL75> Ubuntu
[05:18] <genii-core> Debian I dunno, but Ubuntu is
[05:18] <matsaman> there's zero reason Ubuntu should be wayland by default if Debian isn't yet
[05:18] <matsaman> but whatever
[05:18] <ViperXL75> typing xrandr will say: "Can't open display"
[05:18] <matsaman> wouldn't surprise me if genii-core is right, and that you will have very few options if on wayland
[05:18] <ViperXL75> I guess it must be done from the Ubuntu-Machine instead of remote.
[05:18] <matsaman> it is not what most people should be using yet
[05:20] <genii-core> Wayland has been the default now since 21.04
[05:21] <matsaman> silly
[05:22] <matsaman> hope they like fielding support questions, a lot
[05:28] <ViperXL75> This is weird. I went to tweak the automatic startup programs in order to look at the "xrandr" command that i put in there a while ago to force resolution. Only to find out that there is another command in the list called this:  "/home/main/xeventbind resolution /home/main/ResolutionForcedScript.sh"
[05:28] <matsaman> ViperXL75: anyway, if it used to work, and you were on wayland before and after, or X before and after, yes there's probably some way you can fix it
[05:28] <ViperXL75> I don't remember putting that there. 0_o
[05:29] <ViperXL75> E disabled that command "/home/main/xeventbind resolution /home/main/ResolutionForcedScript.sh"  and now it's rebooting fine it seems.
[05:29] <matsaman> but seriously your TV could be replaced for $40 with a better one
[05:30] <ViperXL75> mate. I have an old TV, but it's a 50inch Plasma.   (old but priceless colors)
[05:30] <ViperXL75> not gonna find a 50+ inch TV with a view like that for $40
[05:30] <ViperXL75> :P
[05:32] <ViperXL75> I'm puzzled though if that 'xeventbind' command got put there during some update. Cuz i honestly don't recall putting that there. (don't even know yet what it does)
[05:33] <ViperXL75> Wondering if it was during an update. (sorry... noob question to wonder that)
[05:51] <matsaman> I'm sure somebody knows
[05:56] <tomreyn> ViperXL75: a script located at "/home/main/ResolutionForcedScript.sh" would not be part of any ubuntu package. they never install to home
[06:23] <ViperXL75> tomreyn: ok thank you. I'll go dig a bit. A lot of thanks for the answer.
[06:24] <mannequin> my ubuntu started freezing up
[06:24] <mannequin> the computer works fine if i boot usb
[06:24] <mannequin> smart shows no disk errors
[06:26] <mannequin> i dthink it's because latest kernel update
[06:28] <matsaman> usb, of course, would not be using your internal storage
[06:37] <Ravage> and if you think its a kernel update boot the previous one
[06:59] <mannequin> i did boot 5.10 and so far it works
[07:00] <mannequin> why ubuntu can't be as reliable as debian
[07:00] <mannequin> they're put so much money in it
[07:00] <mannequin> is it even possible to entirely remove 5.13?
[07:02] <mannequin> it started happening randomply out of the sudden
[07:02] <mannequin> i started suspecting faulty mobo
[07:02] <mannequin> but it posts and all
[07:03] <tomreyn> did you check the kernel log from when it froze, though?
[07:03] <tomreyn> because so far this mostly looks like guesswork
[07:04] <mannequin> but no i booted 5.10 and it works
[07:04] <mannequin> i also should urgently update this devices bios
[07:14] <ViperXL75> yo mannequin
[07:14] <ViperXL75> I also have a similar behaviour
[07:14] <ViperXL75> so far I've gotten the feeling that it's something to do with GDM3
[07:15] <ViperXL75> the GUI part
[07:15] <ViperXL75> try to look into the logging of ubuntu and grep for "gdm3"
[07:16] <ViperXL75> usually by SSH-ing into the computer via Putty or so, and locate gdm3 with "ps -A" and then issue the command "kill 3325(example)"... it will force GDM3 to restart unlocking ur GUI.
[07:16] <ViperXL75> Well that's in my case
[07:16] <ViperXL75> Now i gotta relog to start working
[07:16] <ViperXL75> gl on it
[07:24] <mannequin> is there a way to get rid of 5.13 entirely and stay on 5.10?
[07:26] <vanus> ok
[07:33] <mannequin> so my conclusion is
[07:33] <mannequin> this was broken kernel
[07:34] <mannequin> because the freeze was looping sound boofer over and over
[07:34] <mannequin> buffer
[07:34] <mannequin> if it was hardware failure it would just freeze
[07:34] <mannequin> considering switching back to debian
[08:31] <mannequin> ok i got an errror notification when i login to gnome
[08:32] <mannequin> how to fid out what got borked?
[08:32] <mannequin> journalcts -xe shows no errors
[08:43] <KBar> mannequin: what kind of an error?
[08:44] <oden> Hi, what's the procedure to exclude stuff when generating the initrd on ubuntu server 20.04 LTS ?
[08:44] <mannequin> just a generic error window with no details and canccel and report bug buttons
[08:44] <mannequin> KBar: ^
[08:45] <KBar> mannequin: what's the output of `ls -l /var/crash`?
[08:46] <mannequin> -rw------- 1 root whoopsie   115998 lut  3 07:15 linux-image-5.14.0-1004-oem.0.crash
[08:46] <mannequin> -rw-r----- 1 wsky whoopsie 33101143 sty 29 20:37 _opt_zdoom_zdoom.1000.crash
[08:46] <KBar> mannequin: `ls -l /var/crash | nc termbin.com 9999`
[08:46] <mannequin> so it's the kernel
[08:46] <mannequin> 5.14 was giving me suprises on Debina elsewhere as well
[08:47] <KBar> mannequin: where did you get this version of kernel?
[08:49] <KBar> mannequin: mainline build from kernel-ppa?
[08:49] <mannequin> KBar: i've spent last 2 hours in bringing my system back up from it's knees
[08:49] <mannequin> KBar: straight from officiall ubuntu repo mirror
[08:50] <KBar> mannequin: what version of ubuntu?
[08:50] <mannequin> 20.04
[08:52] <KBar> mannequin: 5.14 isnt available from the official repo
[08:52] <mannequin> it shows up in my apt-cache search list
[08:52] <mannequin> i didn't add any ppa to it
[08:53] <KBar> mannequin: `sysctl kernel.osrelease`
[08:53] <mannequin> kernel.osrelease = 5.13.0-27-lowlatency
[08:53] <KBar> mannequin: `ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/`
[08:55] <mannequin> $ ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[08:55] <mannequin> total 4
[08:55] <mannequin> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 190 sty  27 15:09 google-chrome.list
[08:55] <KBar> mannequin: I suggest sending this crash report with `apport-bug /var/crash/linux-image-5.14.0-1004-oem`
[08:55] <mannequin> i did send the report
[08:55] <mannequin> also why is my software mirror picker not opening?
[08:55] <mannequin> how do i run it from console?
[08:56] <KBar> mannequin: can you list `ls -l /var/crash` one more time and tell us whether new files .upload and .uploaded were created for your report?
[08:56] <mannequin> -rw-r----- 1 wsky whoopsie 33101143 sty  29 20:37 _opt_zdoom_zdoom.1000.crash
[08:56] <mannequin> -rw------- 1 root whoopsie   115998 lut   3 07:15 linux-image-5.14.0-1004-oem.0.crash
[08:56] <mannequin> that's all
[08:57] <mannequin> can you tell me how to run software center from terminal?
[08:57] <mannequin> otherwise i ont be able to ebug it
[08:57] <KBar> mannequin: then it wasn't uploaded. what are the last lines `systemctl status whoopsie.service | nc termbin.com 9999`?
[08:58] <mannequin> https://termbin.com/wcao
[08:58] <KBar> mannequin: depending on whether you want the snap one: `gnome-software` and `snap-store`
[08:58] <mannequin> can you tell me how to run software center from terminal?
[08:58] <mannequin> i just want to change my mirror
[08:59] <KBar> mannequin: you can't do that there. Open the "Software & Updates" app.
[08:59] <KBar> mannequin: your report wasn't sent.
[08:59] <KBar> mannequin: run the command I gave you from the terminal.
[08:59] <mannequin> i can't open the app
[08:59] <mannequin> it does not open
[08:59] <mannequin> tell me how to run it from terminal
[09:00] <KBar> mannequin: That's not Software Center. You need to be more precise and specific. Run `software-properties-gtk` for "Softrware & Update"
[09:00] <lalelu> mannequin, try with dbus-launch programname
[09:01] <mannequin> KBar: http://paste.debian.net/1229427/
[09:02] <mannequin> i've ran chwon -R root:root /usr at one point
[09:02] <mannequin> maybe this broken it
[09:02] <Ravage> that information would have been very helpful
[09:02] <Ravage> that for sure broke more than one thin
[09:02] <Ravage> g
[09:03] <KBar> +1
[09:03] <Ravage> backup your files and reinstall
[09:03] <mannequin> just tell me how to fix this app
[09:03] <KBar> mannequin: seems like your curiosity destroyed a perfectly stable system
[09:03] <mannequin> everything works
[09:03] <Ravage> no it doesnt
[09:03] <KBar> mannequin: nobody owes you anything here. Stop acting entitled.
[09:03] <mannequin> tell me how to repair that software app
[09:04] <mannequin> whatever, i change the mirror from cli
[09:05] <KBar> mannequin: `sudo apt reinstall software-properties-gtk` although i doubt it will revite it
[09:06] <mannequin> it didn't
[09:06] <KBar> or just run `sudo s-p-g`
[09:07] <KBar> and keep running everything with sudo
[09:07] <KBar> because otherwise it wont let you launch anything i'd guess
[09:08] <KBar> until you eventually do something like `sudo rm -rf *` in some very important directory and finish your system for good
[09:09] <mannequin> everything runs well but this app
[09:10] <KBar> okay. if you say so
[09:10] <mannequin> just help me fixing this one app
[09:10] <mannequin> from there i will manage
[09:18] <mannequin> KBar: Ravage that's the fix https://askubuntu.com/questions/789966/software-updates-crashes-and-will-not-open
[09:18] <mannequin> thank you for your effrot
[09:21] <lalelu> can i remove 'deactivated snaps' without worrying ?
[09:22] <lalelu> i mean something like this. gnome-3-26-1604       3.26.0.20210401             102       latest/stable    canonical✓   deaktiviert
[09:22] <mannequin> KBar: but now the app says polkit needs to be setuid as root and it is root
[09:23] <Ravage> but everything works.. how can that be? .. ok i will just be silent and make some coffee
[09:23] <KBar> lalelu in general, you dont want to touch things like gnome-3-* bare, core, etc
[09:24] <Ravage> if its inactive you can probably remove it. if any snap needs it it will be reinstalled anyway
[09:25] <Ravage> but if you can space the few megabytes then just let it be
[09:25] <lalelu> but if have a newer gnome-3-*-2004
[09:25] <lalelu> ok thank you i remove them now
[09:25] <Ravage> thats how snaps work. they provide different environments for every app
[09:25] <KBar> lalelu means that some other snap may be using the older version
[09:26] <KBar> lalelu if you for example install a Qt snap, you will get something like qt5-frameworks
[09:26] <lalelu> ah, ok
[09:27] <KBar> those gnome snaps are needed for the snaps you installed because those snaps cant see the gnome on your desktop
[09:27] <lalelu> i upgraded this ubuntu from 16.04 lts to 20.04 and was shocked about the gnome snaps
[09:28] <Ravage> you are easy to shock :)
[09:28] <mannequin> Ravage: i'm getting there
[09:28] <lalelu> :)
[09:28] <mannequin> Ravage: app wors from root but sudo wont work
[09:28] <lalelu> i don't like all this snap app crap
[09:28] <KBar> lalelu you just wait until you encounter a 500mb calculator flatpak app
[09:29] <KBar> you'll probably have a heart attack
[09:29] <lalelu> calculator went away a few minutes ago
[09:29] <lalelu> gnome-charcters too.. because i made my own with lazarus
[09:29] <Ravage> i tried my first windows server 2022 install and the cumulative update for 01/2022 is 23gb :D
[09:29] <KBar> mannequin: thats what i told you...
[09:29] <Ravage> so it can always be worse
[09:29] <KBar> Ravage and that is why that word is banned here!
[09:29] <KBar> how dare you?
[09:30] <Ravage> it is clearly not banned. im still here :D
[09:30] <KBar> ravage well you're mercifully forgiven the first time
[09:31] <trafficjam> how do i reset my mouse? the cursor has disappeard from the screen
[09:31] <Ravage> unplug and plug in again?
[09:31] <trafficjam> i tried the `modprobe -r psmouse` thing but to no avail
[09:31] <trafficjam> laptop
[09:31] <KBar> trafficjam: is that X or Wayland?
[09:32] <Ravage> every mouse i used in the last 10 years was USB really :)
[09:33] <trafficjam> lol so weird, it came back a few seconds after i typed that (guess modprobe worked), but then my keyboard wouldn't type to input
[09:33] <trafficjam> now both are working
[09:33] <KBar> trafficjam: also wouldnt that be a touchpad? regardless if you're on X and Gnome, try resetting the shell by presing Alt+f2 and typing in `-r`
[09:34] <trafficjam> yeah touchpad i meant to say
[09:34] <trafficjam> maybe modprobe took a minute or so to complete
[09:34] <KBar> trafficjam: doubt it
[09:34] <trafficjam> not sure what it was then
[09:34] <KBar> greasy touchpad
[09:34] <KBar> wipe it with alcohol
[09:34] <mannequin> KBar: i had to purge and reinstall polkit, works now
[09:35] <mannequin> gonna make a quick reboot to make sure stuff works
[09:36] <mannequin> KBar: works now, hopefully nothing remained broken at this point
[09:36] <trafficjam> KBar: no definitely not, one of the cleanest touchpads you'll find, it was a software issue
[09:45] <frost> hey
[09:46] <frost> why is my snap store white all of a sudden?
[09:46] <frost> i just launched it
[09:46] <frost> it has adwaita and no, im not running it as sudo
[09:48] <frost> can somebody explain?
[09:48] <frost> i use ubuntu 20.04.3
[09:50] <frost> please help i dont know if when i install something it will brick
[09:54] <KBar> frost would that be possible for you to post a screenshot?
[09:54] <frost> sure but idk if it shows my wallpaper
[09:54] <frost> ok ill post one but is there a tool to screenshot in ubuntu?
[09:54] <KBar> frost press Shift + PrtSc
[09:54] <frost> ok
[09:55] <KBar> frost: it will open a selector. or Alt + PrtSc to take a screenshot of the currently active window
[09:55] <frost> i selected
[09:55] <frost> and it screenshotted but where is the screenshot
[09:56] <KBar> frost: it was written in the dialog. It's in your Pictures directory
[09:56] <frost> oh found it
[09:56] <frost> lemme show the screen shot wait for a sec
[09:57] <frost> https://imgur.com/a/RV9QrHk
[09:58] <KBar> frost and what exactly is wrong here?
[09:58] <frost> KBar: not using my theme
[09:59] <KBar> frost and what is your theme? share the name and post another screenshot in another window which has the correct current system theme
[09:59] <KBar> s/in/of
[09:59] <frost> KBar : i dont wanna screenshot now ill send a link to the pling
[09:59] <frost> https://www.pling.com/s/Gnome/p/1681315
[10:00] <KBar> frost it's just a theming issue then. looks like the maintainer never bother to include selectors for snap store in their gtk.css files
[10:01] <KBar> frost so no, youre fine. you wont brick or kill anything
[10:01] <frost> KBar : thanks!, i really thought my theme was gonna be there i was scared i thought it ran as root
[10:01] <frost> Thanks for helping!
[10:18] <scanno> Sigh. nVidia and Wayland still not working on 21.10 with 510.47.03 driver. With a monitor connected to the HDMI port, Wayland crashes and returns to the login screen.
[10:20] <KBar> scanno: yeah, nvidia is a known offender. What GPU is that?
[10:21] <scanno> GTX3060 (hybrid with ryzen7 5800)
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> last thing i heared, latest nvidia drivers were making progress for wayland
[10:22] <KBar> Did you try `ubuntu-drivers install`?
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> maybe testing 22.04 devel is also worth a shot on kernel 5.15 scanno
[10:22] <scanno> Oh without HDMI attached, Wayland works
[10:22] <scanno> But as soon as I attach a monitor to the HDMI port, kaboom
[10:25] <scanno> lotuspsychje: Yeah will try that in a few weeks, when I do not need my laptop for some critical work 🙂
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> critical work laptop might need a stable LTS
[10:26] <KBar> lotuspsychje: which is why suggesting a devel release might not be a great idea in this channel.
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> also check what KBar adviced, if you running the most reccomended driver for your card
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> KBar: worth a shot meaning testing purposes, not daily driver
[10:27] <alistar> hey guys
[10:27] <recyclehero> hey guys
[10:28] <KBar> !ask
[10:28] <recyclehero> why ubuntu 20.04 lts is running on my 32bit
[10:30] <recyclehero> it seems the cpu can do 64 bit too. e2140. solved
[10:30] <KBar> recyclehero: ~ lscpu | head -n5 | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:30] <KBar> without the tilde (~)
[10:32] <recyclehero> KBar: I am on my daily Gentoo. the ubuntu isnt connected yet. I always wondered about this 32 bits cpus that can work in 64 bit mode too.
[10:34] <recyclehero> KBar: x86_64%32-bit, 64-bit%Little Endian%36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual%2
[10:34] <KBar> recyclehero: that means your CPU is 64-bit capable
[10:34] <recyclehero> is there any diffrent between am64 and x86_64?
[10:34] <recyclehero> *amd
[10:35] <KBar> recyclehero: not really
[10:35] <KBar> just different naming
[10:35] <recyclehero> great thanks
[10:37] <recyclehero> I am going to use Shinobi NVR on the ubuntu. I am starting with 1TB hard disk. should I go lvm? is there any pros? opinionated answers only
[10:38] <recyclehero> 1 Disks for now. and based on Shinobi estimator I can handle 1 week of streams in 1TB
[10:39] <mannequin> i'd just go with one bare luks container
[10:39] <mannequin> without lvm
[10:39] <mannequin> if that's your secondary driv
[10:39] <mannequin> e
[10:40] <mannequin> if it's your system drive go luks+lvm
[10:41] <recyclehero> mannequin: its system drive and the only. thanks I will consider lvm
[10:42] <mannequin> lvm will only be usefull if you use luks or more than one drive
[10:43] <recyclehero> mannequin: how about I need more space in the future for non NVR stuff so I want to shrink /home. lvm will be useful in this scenario. I dont get the relation between luks and lvm
[10:44] <mannequin> well luks creates an encrypted container where you can set up lvm and implement your partitions
[10:45]  * recyclehero afk 
[10:45] <mannequin> without lvm there could be only one partition in the luks container
 "critical work laptop might..." <- In this case critical means writing my thesis.
[10:53] <ubuntucinnamonre> aiema
[10:53] <KBar> recyclehero: this channel is not for opionated answers. consider joining #ubuntu-offtopic or something broader like #linux
[10:53] <ubuntucinnamonre> jest tu jakis polak ?
[10:54] <KBar> ubuntucinnamonre: join #ubuntu-pl
[10:54] <ubuntucinnamonre> JEST TU JAKIS POLAK ?
[10:54] <mannequin> nie
[10:54] <KBar> ubuntucinnamonre: this channel is for Ubuntu support and it's in English.
[10:54] <KBar> ubuntucinnamonre: for support in Polish, join #ubuntu-pl
[10:54] <ubuntucinnamonre> TO DOBRZE BO CHUJ IM WSZYSTKIM W DUPE
[10:55] <mannequin> that guy is asking for moderation
[10:55] <ubuntucinnamonre> PLAY THE GAME WUAKE CHAMPIONS HUMan?
[10:56] <ubuntucinnamonre> quake champions
[10:56] <KBar> ubuntucinnamonre: !guidelines
[10:58] <lalelu> ubuntucinnamonre, big bad game q3 rules
[10:58] <KBar> !pl | ubuntucinnamonre
[11:00] <ubuntucinnamonre> Does anyone play quake nchampions here
[11:01] <ubuntucinnamonre> ??????
[11:01] <KBar> ubuntucinnamonre: what's your question and problem?
[11:01] <KBar> !ask | ubuntucinnamonre
[11:02] <ubuntucinnamonre> one does not answer the question.
[11:02] <Jeremy31> ubuntucinnamonre: this is for Ubuntu support, not to find someone to play a game with
[11:02] <KBar> ubuntucinnamonre: this channel is for Ubuntu-specific questions and support
[11:02] <ubuntucinnamonre> oki sory
[11:03] <KBar> ubuntucinnamonre: if you don't have any questions related to the Ubuntu operating system and its running, consider visiting other channels.
[11:04] <Jeremy31> There might be a #quake channel
[11:04] <gordonjcp> Jeremy31: there certainly used to be, I haven't been in it since I stopped running a Quakeworld server though
[11:04] <gordonjcp> Jeremy31: so, ~20 years
[11:05] <Jeremy31> quakenet IRC servers still up?
[11:07] <Jeremy31> ubuntucinnamonre: click on ircs://irc46.quakenet.org
[11:25] <KBar> How can I disable all modules that provide IPv6?
[11:30] <Jeremy31> KBar: https://www.thegeekdiary.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux/  It still might show a local IPv6 in iwconfig
[11:33] <KBar> Jeremy31: thanks. I already disabled it in NetworkManager. a bunch of modules are eating up some amount of memory sitting there doing nothing so why not disable them completely
[11:33] <Jeremy31> KBar: blacklist the modules?
[11:35] <gordonjcp> why would you bother disabling IPv6?
[11:36] <Jeremy31> gordonjcp: It gave me issues updating
[11:36] <KBar> gordonjcp: because my ISP doesn't use and I don't care about it
[11:36] <KBar> *it
[11:36] <KBar> i have no use for it
[11:37] <KBar> and Im tight on memory. already disabled a bunch of useless modules
[11:37] <gordonjcp> KBar: here's a tenner, go and buy another 32GB of RAM
[11:38] <gordonjcp> reeeeallly struggling to see how breaking network support is going to save any memory
[11:38] <KBar> gordonjcp: thanks. I rather download a bit more of it. you know of any good site or app store?
[11:40] <gordonjcp> this sounds like the folk who saw the handles off their toothbrushes to save ~6 grams when hiking
[11:42] <KBar> gordonjcp: yeah, I'm sorry I'm that way.
[11:44] <gordonjcp> KBar: have you considered slimming down things that are actually using memory?
[11:45] <mannequin> 90s--00s thinking
[12:14] <leandrot0sh1> Hey guys
[12:14] <leandrot0sh1> can anyone help? my mouse is right-clicking on its own
[12:15] <leandrot0sh1> and sometimes it stops working at all
[12:15] <leandrot0sh1> I also noticed abnormal usage of CPU
[12:15] <leandrot0sh1> can anyone help ?
[12:26] <leandrot0sh1> can anyone help ? my mouse is right-clicking on its own.. and sometimes it just stop working at all.. I also noticed abnormal usage of CPU .. how to figure out what is happening?
[12:35] <leandrot0sh1> can anyone help ? my mouse is right-clicking on its own.. and sometimes it just stop working at all.. I also noticed abnormal usage of CPU .. how to figure out what is happening?
[12:37] <EriC^^> leandrot0sh1: you could boot an older live usb to see if it's a hardware issue or what
[12:38] <Ravage> or try another mouse
[12:38] <EriC^^> (assuming it's not a touchpad)
[12:38] <Ravage> Then he should have said touchpad
[12:39] <EriC^^> ok mr wait for someone to help then talk
[12:39] <Ravage> And he wrote it 3 times to make sure we get it
[12:39] <EriC^^> whatever
[12:39] <EriC^^> wanna bet it's a touchpad?
[12:39] <leandrot0sh1> @EriC^^, it is not a touchpad
[12:39] <EriC^^> nevermind
[12:39] <Ravage> Glad we didn't bet now?
[12:39] <EriC^^> yes :D
[12:40] <leandrot0sh1> lol
[12:40] <aminvakil> i have 6 identical servers with 2TB hdd, what do you suggest for having a 3TB (6 * 1TB, replica 2) shared storage between these reachable from all of them?
[12:40] <aminvakil> using ubuntu 18.04
[12:40] <leandrot0sh1> @EriC^^, it was working fine and its a brand new mouse/keyboard
[12:42] <EriC^^> leandrot0sh1: it could still go bad, if you dont have another mouse, you could try booting an older kernel in case it somehow helps, or just use a live usb to see if it still does it
[12:43] <leandrot0sh1> @Ravage, i have tried another mouse and the same happened
[12:43] <EriC^^> about the cpu usage, see which process is using it using 'top'
[12:45] <leandrot0sh1> @EriC^^, the cpu usage goes up and down with no app open
[12:46] <leandrot0sh1> it must be the kernel.. how can I install an older version and boot that one?
[12:46] <EriC^^> leandrot0sh1: yeah but something must be using it, look at top it should show what process is using it
[12:46] <EriC^^> leandrot0sh1: you should already have 1 older kernel, hold shift to get grub when the pc boots, then advanced, then choose the older kernel
[12:47] <leandrot0sh1> @EriC^^, the top usage comes from gnome-system-monitor (2-20%)
[12:49] <leandrot0sh1> @EriC^^, i'll reboot and try with an older kernel
[12:53] <leandrot0sh1> @EriC^^, I have kernel versions 5 13 027 and 5 13 028.. I'm trying version 027 now.. if it still bad, which apparently is, how can I install an even older one?
[12:54] <thearcanebrony> kernel broke?
[12:55] <thearcanebrony> i havent used ubuntu in quite some time but could you tell me what's going on?
[13:20] <VIA> hi al
[13:20] <VIA> can anyone tell me how to uninstall/reinstall a printer including purgin all settings ?
[13:21] <VIA> for some reason the device doesnt takes jobs form my PC anymore. it says "paused" in some printing dialog. the device works fine .. test pages copies etc all work. just suddenly stopped printing anything
[13:48] <Liblx> Hello, is there a GUI tool to find duplicates not only by name but by size, too?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:59] <ioria> Liblx, czkawka (available via snap) sounds a good tool
[14:17] <Liblx> ioria, thank you!
[14:20] <jsmooth> is there a scripting interface (maybe using Python) that would allow writing something that would pop-up a reminder to reboot the machine at a user-specified amount of time?
[14:21] <leftyfb> jsmooth: notify-send
[14:21] <thearcanebrony> theres always cron for task scheduling under ubuntu
[14:21] <thearcanebrony> and systemd's timers
[14:22] <thearcanebrony> though systemd's timers allow you to say `time since startup`
[14:23] <Guest520> Hi
[14:23] <thearcanebrony> and then repeat every x amount of time
[14:24] <Guest520> my Lubuntu is stuck on "Emergency Mode" and I dont know what is causing that can someone help me please?
[14:24] <thearcanebrony> probably need to fsck
[14:26] <Guest520> I used mount -a to get to the graphic default mode, but it is only atemporary solution if i shutdown the machine now and reboot I will get to the emmergeny mode again
[14:27] <Guest520> thearcanebrony : Can you help me out on what i need to do to not get my ubuntu data lost and how to stop it from apearing PLZ
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> Guest520: wich lubuntu release is this?
[14:32] <Guest52076> Hi sorry I got disconnected
[14:32] <Guest52076> I asked about getting out of the emmergency mode in my Lubuntu
[14:33] <Guest520> I asked about getting out of the emmergency mode in my Lubuntu
[14:33] <Guest520> the logs gives this in the first line Linux version 5.13.0-27-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-045) (gcc (Ubuntu 9.3.0-17ubuntu
[14:34] <Guest520> and i originally installed Lubuntu 20.04 LTS
[14:35] <Guest520> in the logs there is in red "Failed to start  File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/d3273dc5-96fa-47f2-8a02-870c88ec0644."
[14:36] <Guest520> there is also in red " EXT4-fs error (device sda7): ext4_mb_generate_buddy:1137: group 32, block bitmap and bg descriptor inconsistent: 11855 vs 11857 free clusters
[14:37] <Guest520> what does that mean ?
[14:37] <Ramzer> Siema
[14:37] <Guest520> Any help pls
[14:37] <mannequin> jak się ma to siema
[14:38] <Ramzer> chyba ze to sciema ze sie ma
[14:38] <mannequin> albo jest albo nie ma
[14:38] <Ramzer> enabled disabled
[14:38] <Ramzer> kurwa zaprqaszam do biosu
[14:38] <Guest520> ??
[14:38] <Ramzer> :p
[14:38] <Ramzer> c:/'\
[14:39] <Ramzer> del command.com
[14:39] <Ramzer> :P
[14:41] <Ramzer> Jebac mobile internet shit fuck
[14:41] <Ramzer> lowww ping
[14:41] <Ramzer> enterteiment disabled
[14:41] <Ramzer> enabled wifi lat
[14:41] <Ramzer> hhtttttttp
[14:42] <mannequin> i keep some local mp3 files for such occasions
[14:42] <Ramzer> kurwa czy cos
[14:42] <Ramzer> :p
[14:42] <Ramzer> clear
[14:42] <Ramzer> exit
[14:42] <Ramzer> yo
[14:42] <mannequin>  /exit
[14:43] <andi_> hello, is there a way i can install gcc-4.5.2 on my ubuntu focal?
[14:45] <mannequin> bootstrap and chroot perhaps
[14:48] <vincenzoml> Hi there. I have a serious problem on my ubuntu machine; I installed this machine 3 years ago and always upgraded it; have been using ubuntu since the first release and generally speaking know what I'm doing, *USUALLY*.
[14:48] <vincenzoml> Now I get several errors from chrome and firefox about errors in certificates
[14:48] <vincenzoml> In a chrome anonymous window, these errors *do not* appear. On another user account of the same machine, everything works.
[14:48] <leftyfb> vincenzoml: check the data/time of your machine
[14:49] <vincenzoml> The errors show clearly that some certificates are identifying themselves with the domain name of my provider
[14:49] <vincenzoml> This happens while visiting some sites hosted on github.io so that's impossible.
[14:49] <leftyfb> oh, then that maybe sounds like an issue with your ISP doing things they shouldn't
[14:49] <vincenzoml> But this only happens in my user account. Where would you start looking at?
[14:50] <vincenzoml> @leftyfb, I thought so, but as I said on another account and on an anonymous window that doesn't happen.
[14:51] <vincenzoml> I also changed my DNS settings to use google, this didn't change a thing
[14:52] <vincenzoml> must be some openssl library which gets preloaded in my session
[14:52] <vincenzoml> (yes I suspect a worm or something like that)
[14:52] <mannequin> try #security
[14:53] <mannequin> also do you use httpseverywhere?
[14:53] <vincenzoml> THANKS
[14:53] <vincenzoml> sorry for the caps
[14:53] <vincenzoml> no I don't use it
[15:02] <leftyfb> vincenzoml: check to see if there's maybe some sort of proxy running on your machine that your user/browsers are configured for. Look for addons
[15:05] <vincenzoml> leftyb in gnome I don't have any proxy configured, is there any other way there could be a proxy on ubuntu without me knowing in detail?
[15:08] <leftyfb> vincenzoml: env |egrep -i "http|proxy" # would be a good place to start. But also look in your browser settings/addons/extensions.
[15:08] <leftyfb> vincenzoml: also try deleting all of your browser settings and starting over
[15:15] <vincenzoml> leftyb: also using openssl on the command line I see the same misbehaviour
[15:15] <vincenzoml> no traces of proxies in ENV
[15:16] <leftyfb> vincenzoml: then that isn't user-specific
[15:16] <vincenzoml> leftyfb, I came to the same conclusion :D  and then went to the other user account. This must have an explanation, which could as well be some LD_PRELOAD trick on specific executables
[15:16] <vincenzoml> but I am unsure how to proceed
[15:25] <lionel1> quit
[15:43] <ioria> vincenzoml, are you sure you're fully updated ? what's your release and kernel ?
[16:03] <mannequin> ok i want to get kernel 5.13.28 rid out of my os
[16:03] <mannequin> how
[16:03] <mannequin> KBar: ^
[16:03] <leftyfb> mannequin: why?
[16:03] <flughafen> question: I downloaded a kvm image from here: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/focal/  but it doesn't boot at all?
[16:03] <mannequin> because it makes my machine freeze
[16:04] <leftyfb> mannequin: what release are you running?
[16:04] <mannequin> 20.04
[16:05] <leftyfb> mannequin: what kernel version are you running?
[16:06] <mannequin> 5.13.27
[16:06] <KBar> leftyfb: I think it was 5.13.0-27-lowlatency (from earlier today)
[16:06] <mannequin> yeah
[16:06] <mannequin> but .28 is freezing my os
[16:06] <leftyfb> mannequin: why are you running a lowlatency kernel?
[16:06] <mannequin> yes
[16:06] <leftyfb> mannequin: why?
[16:06] <mannequin> why not?
[16:07] <leftyfb> mannequin: nope, that's not a valid reason
[16:07] <KBar> flughafen: what's your Ubuntu version?
[16:07] <flughafen> 20.04 KBar
[16:08] <KBar> flughafen: pardon me, which image are you trying to boot into specifically?
[16:08] <flughafen> It's nto showing any thhing. No grub, etc.
[16:09] <mannequin> your dependency system is broken
[16:09] <mannequin> i want .27
[16:09] <mannequin> apt forces me to install .28
[16:09] <KBar> nobody's forcing you to install anything
[16:10] <KBar> its you typing in your password and confirming the operation
[16:10] <leftyfb> mannequin: have you tried just using the linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04 kernel?
[16:10] <EriC^^> flughafen: holding shift when the pc boots might show grub, or esc
[16:10] <leftyfb> EriC^^: it's a KVM image
[16:10] <KBar> Escape if UEFI, Shift if BIOS/Legacy
[16:10] <leftyfb> flughafen: how are you trying to boot the image?
[16:11] <mannequin> KBar: apt forces me to do so
[16:11] <leftyfb> mannequin: have you tried just using the linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04 kernel?
[16:11] <mannequin> i think i jusr rm the kernel from /boot
[16:11] <leftyfb> mannequin: that is the wrong thing to do
[16:11] <EriC^^> KBar: actually uefi also uses shift, i think esc was for grub1
[16:11] <KBar> mannequin: yeah, and then you wonder why nothing works
[16:12] <mannequin> .27 orks perfectly
[16:12] <KBar> Eric^^ are you sure? Because I've tested this many times and know for a fact that on UEFI system its Esc
[16:12] <mannequin> works*
[16:12] <leftyfb> mannequin: in order to help you, we need to understand why you're running a lowlatency kernel and what causes the latest HWE kernel to "freeze"
[16:12] <flughafen> leftyfb: I made a new kvm image in libvirt, by picking that image
[16:13] <EriC^^> KBar: ive had 3 uefi laptops, all shift
[16:13] <KBar> EriC^^: (talking about GRUB2 obviously)
[16:13] <EriC^^> maybe both work?
[16:14] <leftyfb> EriC^^: this is kvm nothing to do with EFI
[16:14] <KBar> EriC^^ maybe your laptops had shift and esc swapped on boot :D but maybe both
[16:15] <KBar> mannequin: that's not how it works. you can't just remove the kernel image from /boot just because you can doesn't mean you should
[16:15] <Ravage> flughafen: did you check https://multipass.run/ ?
[16:15] <flughafen> KBar:   https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/focal/release-20211129/ubuntu-20.04-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk-kvm.img
[16:16] <leftyfb> KBar: they don't seem interested in doing things properly or spending the time to figure anything out. I think they're just going to be on their own from now on
[16:16] <mannequin> ok i'm on .28 generic now, lets see how it goes
[16:16] <Ravage> if you really want to do it all manually there a guides like https://yping88.medium.com/use-ubuntu-server-20-04-cloud-image-to-create-a-kvm-virtual-machine-with-fixed-network-properties-62ecae025f6c
[16:16] <KBar> mannequin: config files all over your system will still point to 0-28
[16:16] <KBar> leftyfb: yeah, I figured that a while ago.
[16:16] <leftyfb> flughafen: I would suggest using multipass or LXD to build and manage kvm's
[16:17] <KBar> +1 for lxd super easy
[16:17] <leftyfb> flughafen: hell, I would just stick with lxd containers if you don't need a GUI in those VM's
[16:17] <flughafen> it jjust says Booting from harddisk, GRUB_FORCE_partuuid set, attempting initrdless boot
[16:17] <KBar> though not for snap haters
[16:18] <mannequin> generic still freezes
[16:19] <mannequin> update-grub will look for kernel files in /boot
[16:19] <mannequin> i'm removing them manually
[16:19] <flughafen> I just need an ubuntu thing for testing. *
[16:19] <Ravage> flughafen: https://multipass.run/
[16:19] <flughafen> I need to test installing a package i built(i'm am a suse guy)
[16:19] <flughafen> just for a second then i can burn it for fire
[16:20] <Maik> mannequin: your system freezing could be a hardware issue or.... you use wayland
[16:20] <KBar> flughafen: does that package provide anything in GUI?
[16:20] <mannequin> it's not a hardware issue it happens only on this one kernel
[16:20] <mannequin> stop taking me for an idiot
[16:20] <flughafen> KBar:no
[16:20] <mannequin> this is isultive
[16:21] <Minvera> I'm using regolith i3 and installed lxde, and some DEs. I think it installed multiple sound servers or something that's making my audio crackle. What should I do?
[16:21] <Maik> mannequin: calm down, no one does take you for an idiot. It's you who makes a problem out of nothing, stop with that.
[16:21] <KBar> flughafen: then LXD containers are your best option. or Multipass
[16:22] <leftyfb> Minvera: sorry, we do not support Regolith i3 here
[16:22] <KBar> Minvera: `cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999`
[16:23] <mannequin> Maik: am i the one making my kernel not working properly?
[16:23] <leftyfb> mannequin: if you delete that image file manually, you have now created a self-inflicted broken system. You were told not to. Do not ask for support anymore here with that system
[16:24] <Maik> mannequin: you know exactly what i mean and now stop the drama
[16:24] <KBar> mannequin: why come here and ask if you don't bother listening?
[16:24] <Minvera> KBar, https://termbin.com/0lei
[16:24] <mannequin> i ran update-grub after removing the .28 faulty files, all will work now untill next release
[16:24] <leftyfb> mannequin: you have shown zero interest in getting to the root of the problem and trying to resolve it properly.
[16:25] <leftyfb> mannequin: you are on your own now, good luck. Please do not ask for support with your self-inflicted broken system going forward
[16:25] <KBar> Minvera: I mean installing multiple DEs is not a clever idea. that's probably contributing to your issue
[16:25] <Minvera> KBar, yeah so should i apt purge these IDEs or what?
[16:25] <leftyfb> KBar: their distro is not suppored hre
[16:26] <KBar> Minvera: you can't undo that. Back up and fresh reinstall.
[16:26] <Minvera> or apt purge the sound servers? not sure how sound works on linux so not sure if i need to uninstall servers, drivers, or what
[16:26] <Minvera> sound servers*
[16:26] <mannequin> i'm taking this to #linux since you're insultinve, disrespectfull and with no will to help
[16:26] <KBar> mannequin: sorry but the same can be said about you.
[16:26] <Maik> mannequin: stop the bickering
[16:27] <mannequin> i'm not talking to you anymore
[16:27] <Maik> mannequin: stop it
[16:27] <mannequin> i just did, it's you who continue
[16:27] <Maik> sigh
[16:27] <Maik> !ops | mannequin
[16:28] <KBar> #linux will probably be even more disrespectful…
[16:30] <Maik> KBar: stop provoking him please
[16:30] <flughafen> KBar:i'm not finding an multipass binary?
[16:30] <KBar> flughafen: Ravage gave you a link to their website.
[16:31] <KBar> flughafen: https://multipass.run/
[16:31] <Ravage> you need snap for that
[16:31] <Ravage> there are instructions linked how to install it for most linux dists
[16:31] <flughafen> i installed it
[16:32] <Minvera> KBar, so should i apt purge sound servers? i'm not sure how sound works on Linux if I should apt purge sound drivers, sound servers, or sound something?
[16:32] <Minvera> if i have more than 1 sound server
[16:32] <leftyfb> Minvera: your Linux distribution is not supported here
[16:32] <KBar> Minvera: fresh install with a proper DE of your choice
[16:33] <Minvera> leftyfb, what do you mean? I installed ubuntu 20.04 and apt install some packages
[16:34] <Maik> leftyfb they use Ubuntu 20.04?
[16:34] <leftyfb> Minvera: you said you were running regolith i3 which is it's own linux distribution
[16:35] <Minvera> there's a PPA for it which I did and installed the package
[16:35] <KBar> Minvera: have a read through this thread on ubuntuforums: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2415676&p=13848099#post13848099
[16:35] <flughafen> KBar:found it
[16:35] <leftyfb> Minvera: ah, my apologies
[16:36] <KBar> Minvera to have an understanding how DEs work.
[16:53] <jwash> hi everyone, i'm using qemu-img to create backed clones for a project. is there a way to specify a random change for the mac address of the clone? i'm using a bridged network from the host.
[17:07] <rfm> jwash, that wouldn't be done when creating the image with qemu-img, but when the VM is created using the image
[17:07] <jwash> yea
[17:07] <jwash> i've been doing it manually at that step
[17:08] <jwash> is there a utility which can change the hostname, mac, and ip address automatically?
[17:08] <jwash> from the command line?
[17:08] <jwash> i could put macchanger on the base image
[17:09] <jwash> then make a sh script to change them all at once
[17:11] <taholmes160> Good Morning Everyone - Just coming back to ubuntu after about 10 years off -- just installing my first attempt
[17:12] <Maik> taholmes160: welcome back and good luck :)
[17:13] <taholmes160> Thanks -- Hopefully I wont have problems -- but We'll see
[17:13] <jwash> it's a great time to be back
[17:14] <taholmes160> thats cool
[17:15] <jwash> especially with ubuntu
[17:15] <jwash> ubuntu feel like its 90% ready to go head to head with win7 minus the gaming
[17:16] <taholmes160> ok, im not really a gamer -- this computer will be running docker to host a production tracking application for Architectural Visualization productions
[17:17] <Minvera> actually i think i was wrong, i was just in a webex meeting where apparently the speaker just had a crackly mic XD
[17:17] <leftyfb> jwash: taholmes160: feel free to discuss ubuntu in #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic. This chat is for support issues
[17:17] <taholmes160> understand -- sorry
[17:18] <jwash> for my issue virt-clone would do, but it looks like it won't do a backed clone
[17:18] <rfm> jwash, well, there's hostnamectl for changing the host name, "ip address" for setting the ip, and googling around there's a utility called "macchanger" for the mac address.  I've never used macchanger, and I think it's too late to change the MAC after boot since the kernel would go through ipv6 link-local config very early...
[17:19] <jwash> yea
[17:19] <jwash> rfm, i use all 3
[17:19] <jwash> but it would be great to do it during the time of cloning
[17:20] <jwash> if the feature of macchanger were inside virt-clone it would be huge
[17:20] <jwash> i create and destroy/delete clones all the time
[17:21] <jwash> specify the bridge, and change the mac
[17:21] <rfm> jwash, just reading the virt-clone man page, I see the "--mac RANDOM" option.
[17:23] <jwash> virt clone <> backed clone
[17:23] <jwash> that's the main feature i'm after
[17:23] <jwash> no point cloning a 20gb file into another 20 gb file 100 times
[17:28] <rfm> jwash, so how do you create the VM running the image?  That's the point to do this.  (I use virt-install)
[17:29] <jwash> stop the master vm
[17:29] <jwash> then use qemu-img to create the backed clone .qcow2
[17:29] <jwash> start the new clone with virsh or virt-manager
[17:30] <jwash> use vnc or spice to change hostname, mac, ip
[17:30] <jwash> that's what i do today
[17:30] <jwash> i very rarely have the master vm running
[17:30] <mannequin> how come on my other computer also running 20.04 i can see kernel 5.15 in the database?
[17:31] <jwash> did you update apt sources?
[17:31] <mannequin> of course
[17:31] <jwash> compare the repos
[17:31] <jwash> are they the same
[17:31] <taholmes160> I am trying to install the latest stable version of Ubuntu on a little older dell Core i3 Computer -- It has 3 250 gb hdd -- I selected the ubunut installation with safe graphics, the installation proceeded until the screen went to what looked like tv snow on about 60% of the screen -- then it went blank all black -- its been about 1/2 hour running now
[17:31] <taholmes160> im not totally sure whats wrong
[17:31] <jwash> what model?
[17:32] <thunder> hey folks. I'm having an issue installing initramfs-tools on my box running kernel 5.15.2-051502-lowlatency (the minimum required to support my wifi card) and an intel tigerlake quad core i7-1165G7 cpu. details of the error and installed tgl firmware --> https://termbin.com/vnxg
[17:32] <taholmes160> hang on a sec -- checking
[17:33] <jwash> i'm on a 7490 right now
[17:34] <jhutchins> taholmes160: I'd start by verifying the checksums of your downloaded image and your imaged device.
[17:34] <leftyfb> thunder: why are you running a lowlatency kernel. Also why are you running a kernel that isn't officially supported?
[17:34] <jhutchins> I've had pretty good luck with Dell laptops since ~2008
[17:35] <jhutchins> Didn't always get the function keys or the card readers, but everything else works.
[17:35] <taholmes160> @jwalsh -- its an optiplex 790
[17:35] <thunder> leftyfb: lowlatency kernel isn't required. just what I happened to boot up with. I have the regular installed too. that kernel version is the minimum required to support the wifi card on my box. anything prior to that and I'll have no internet.
[17:35] <taholmes160> and I now have a mouse pointer on screen
[17:36] <taholmes160> but nothing else
[17:36] <jhutchins> taholmes160: Woo!
[17:37] <taholmes160> ok, must have been slow dvd drive -- its got the desktop up now
[17:40] <jwash> decent computer, buy some more ram, an i7, and a ssd
[17:41] <taholmes160> ya - -not gonna be my desktop -- just a background machine -- ram and ssd are easy -- I looked at moving to an i7 but the socket is not compatible
[17:42] <taholmes160> :(
[17:42] <rfm> jwash, so you need to set the mac address in virsh/virt-manager, but I don't know just how (since I use virt-install, which is another interface to libvirt, so clearly libvirt can do it
[17:43] <jwash> meh
[17:43] <jwash> that's what i do today
[17:43] <jwash> i can edit the xml file
[17:43] <jwash> hmm
[17:48] <rfm> jwash, from some googling around I see other people have done this by editing the xml
[17:49] <craigbass76> This is more of a MySQL question, but... Has anyone seen any weirdness with their command line MariaDB client? I run SELECT * FROM TABLE; and a couple columns are only partway there, but when I select just those two columns, I can see fine.
[17:50] <leftyfb> craigbass76: try #mysql
[17:51] <craigbass76> Yeah, I did when I thought it was an actual data import problem. That's why I wondered about the ubuntu/GNOME3 client.
[17:51] <craigbass76> That's when I eamn, not That's why
[17:51] <jwash> craigbass76 this is off topic but i have weird lags with postgres sometimes
[17:51] <Guest7547> #ubuntustudio
[17:51] <leftyfb> craigbass76: mysql has absolutely nothing to do with gnome, nor the OS, as far as your particular issue
[17:51] <jhutchins> craigbass76: What about the actual MySQL client?
[17:52] <jhutchins> craigbass76: Is the gnome client anything like phpMyAdmin?
[17:52] <jwash> try dbeaver
[17:52] <craigbass76> jhutchins: No, I'm at a command line
[17:52] <leftyfb> craigbass76: try #mysql
[17:52] <craigbass76> I'm going to twaek how I import, and if that fixes it, I'll know it was my fault all along.
[17:52] <jwash> craigbass76 are you running the cmd line tool on the server or client?
[17:53] <jhutchins> craigbass76: is there a difference in results depending on whether you're logged in to the client or you're issuing queries from the shell?
[17:53] <thunder> ?
[17:55] <jhutchins> !paste
[17:56] <mannequin> is there a ppa for new kernels meant to be running on lts releases
[17:56] <mannequin> ?
[17:56] <leftyfb> mannequin: none that are supported here
[17:56] <mannequin> k
[17:57] <leftyfb> mannequin: HWE kernels are only from Canonical
[17:57] <mannequin> so i'm stuck with 5.13.27 untill they fix it
[17:58] <leftyfb> mannequin: or you could spend some time and effort troubleshooting your issue
[17:58] <mannequin> well
[17:58] <leftyfb> yeah, I know, not your thing
[17:58] <mannequin> what happens is the system freezezs and the audio boofer loops
[17:58] <mannequin> all i can tell you
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> please share your dmesg in a pastebin mannequin, so volunteers can take a look
[17:59] <mannequin> buffer*
[17:59] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: they first need to reinstall the HWE kernel because they manually deleted the files in /boot
[18:00] <mannequin> dmesg works only for the current session
[18:01] <mannequin> there is syslog however
[18:01] <leftyfb> mannequin: troubleshooting requires reinstalling the proper kernel and booting to that to figure out what's going on with it
[18:03] <mannequin> i did a temporal workaround
[18:03] <leftyfb> nope
[18:03] <mannequin> yep
[18:03] <leftyfb> mannequin: if you want help, you follow instructions and don't try doing your own thing
[18:03] <mannequin> i set my system so it boots to .27
[18:03] <Maik> he doesn't want to listen so why even bother leftyfb
[18:03] <mannequin> i am not 3 years old
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> mannequin: if you want help from the volunteers, you need to take advice from them
[18:03] <mannequin> 15 year linux experience
[18:04] <leftyfb> mannequin: then stop acting like it
[18:04] <mannequin> all they telkl me is "reinstall your os" or "it works on my end"
[18:04] <Maik> 15 years linux experience? i highly doubt that
[18:04] <leftyfb> mannequin: zero people here have said that to you
[18:04] <mannequin> that actually happened today
[18:04] <zer0fun> Is there a channel for people testing 22.04? or is this the place to ask questions?
[18:04] <mannequin> so stop lieing or being uninformed
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> !next | zer0fun
[18:05] <leftyfb> mannequin: reinstall the kernel properly to begin troubleshooting or you're done getting help from here
[18:05] <Maik> starting to bicker again mannequin?
[18:05] <mannequin> i want my system to work not put it under maintanance for next few hours
[18:05] <mannequin> just because a kerle dev screwed up
[18:05] <mannequin> kernel*
[18:06] <leftyfb> mannequin: ok, then there's nothing left to do. Good luck and leave stop filling this channel with non-support issues
[18:06] <mannequin> bai fake support\
[18:06] <leftyfb> damn, I didn't mean to put "leave" in there honestly
[18:06] <leftyfb> not that I'm upset either
[18:07] <jwash> you're a mod?
[18:07] <leftyfb> no
[18:07] <Maik> i simply don't care, his loss
[18:07] <thunder> hey folks. I'm having an issue installing initramfs-tools on my box running kernel 5.15.2-051502-lowlatency (the minimum required to support my wifi card) and an intel tigerlake quad core i7-1165G7 cpu. details of the error and installed tgl firmware --> https://termbin.com/vnxg
[18:07] <jwash> be nicer to people
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> thunder: wich ubuntu release are you on?
[18:08] <thunder> lotuspsychje: focal
[18:09] <thunder> incidentally, is it safe to remove the non tgl firmware from /lib/firmware/i915/ ?
[18:09] <thunder> cuz there's really no need for stuff that doesn't pertain to my cpu
[18:10] <thunder> and if so, what's the recommended way to do that? can I just `mv` it elsewhere, or `rm`, or is there some extra steps required?
[18:16] <purpleidea> hey folks, i'm digging into zfs in ubuntu and I'm trying to understand why there are dkms packages as well as zfs.ko built-kernel-module-binary stuff already built in some packages? Are both mechanisms used for zfs? What does the installer use? What is going on? Many thanks!
[18:25] <jhutchins> thunder: I think the ideal method would be to remove the meta package that included all the extras and find some way of installing just the package you need.  That probably will mean maintaining updates separately
[18:26] <jhutchins> thunder: Disk space is pretty cheap these days, there's no real reason to remove it except to reduce clutter.
[18:27] <thunder> okay. I won't bother then. but I wonder why installing intramfs-tools is giving me grief about firmware for cpu versions I don't have
[18:27] <thunder> is there some way I can configure it to only deal with the hw that actually exists?
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> thunder: do you have a bug ID about your wifi card not supported below 5.15 kernels?
[18:46] <thunder> lotuspsychje: it's specific to the laptop I own. https://community.frame.work/t/using-the-ax210-with-linux-on-the-framework-laptop/1844
[18:46] <thunder> not sure if there's an official bug ID
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> tnx thunder
[18:47] <thunder> anyway, as I'm using that very laptop right now, it's not an issue. I'm just trying to install the initramfs-tools package and it's giving me grief because it's looking for an earlier version of the cpu firmware than what I have installed
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> Jeremy31: know about these^
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> thunder: are you playing with mainline kernels or ppa
[18:48] <thunder> mainline
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> thunder: you could maybe talk to the kernel experts at #ubuntu-kernel
[18:49] <thunder> okay. thanks
[19:06] <taholmes160> my installation is not happy with the onboard graphics card on this computer -- so it boots to a black screen -- I seem to remember there is a way to switch from gnome to a text output -- but I cant remember what its called, nor how to do it
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> !tty | taholmes160
[19:07] <taholmes160> cool - thanks
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | taholmes160 can also help to bypass black screens
[19:12] <herschel> I installed ubuntu 21.10 on a thinkpad x1 carbon alongside windows and it seems to have broken the sleep functionality
[19:12] <herschel> so, if I'm running windows and the computer goes to sleep, when I try to start up again it reboots
[19:14] <herschel> (I'm slightly confused, this might not actually be what's happening, because sometimes it's in what looks like sleep mode and this doesn't happen? anyway it always happens if the lid was closed and I leave it for >~15 mins)
[19:14] <herschel> best case I'd like to fix this and have both installed, if I can't have both there's some chance I'll give up on windows
[19:15] <herschel> I had this same problem on a lenovo x131e chromebook running debian ~7 years ago, I assumed that was due to chromeos weirdness
[19:15] <herschel> (that wasn't dual booting, but still)
[19:16] <tomreyn> since we can only help with ubuntu, and this appears to be an issue experienced running windows (even though there's a suspicion (?) this could be related to the dual-boot setup) i would suggest clarifying what the root cause is with windows folks first of all.
[19:17] <herschel> well it's surely grub's fault
[19:17] <craigbass76> Offtopic I imagine, but is there a Windows equivalent to /var/log ?
[19:17] <herschel> at least I'd like help just removing grub and ubuntu altogether?
[19:18] <jwash> dos prompt fixmbr?
[19:18] <tomreyn> herschel: how could it be grub's fault if it happens while the system enters / returns from sleep, not reboots?
[19:18] <craigbass76> I'd wipe the whole thing from a livecd and start over. Grab your windows key first. You can legally download Windows iso now and just reinstall using your own key.
[19:19] <herschel> tomreyn, well the only thing that's changed from windows' perspective is grub
[19:19] <craigbass76> I have to do it in virtual box every time Windows goes belly up.
[19:19] <craigbass76> herschel: Ahh, there might have been a bad windows update.
[19:19] <herschel> like, on the same day I installed ubuntu?
[19:19] <herschel> sounds unlikely
[19:20] <craigbass76> It's Windows. Who knows.
[19:20] <jwash> lol, true
[19:20] <herschel> well, ignore everything I said before:
[19:20] <herschel> I installed ubuntu with grub, I'd like to remove both
[19:20] <herschel> how can I do that?
[19:20] <craigbass76> I'm still appalled it started taking up twice the disk space all of a sudden (hence my last VM reinstall)
[19:21] <tomreyn> herschel: if this is an eufi booting system you can delete the 'ubuntu' directory off the efi system partition and delete the partitions ubuntu was installed on (backup first if you have relevant data there). optionally, before removing ubuntu, you could run wipefs to also remove file system signatures of what will be unpartitoned space later.
[19:21] <jwash> herschel: fixmbr
[19:21] <jwash> that will do it
[19:22] <herschel> so this gets run from within *nix?
[19:22] <herschel> I can't tell if it gets booted as a separate OS temporarily or something
[19:22] <leftyfb> herschel: what are you going to do when you find out removing ubuntu and grub doesn't fix your issue?
[19:23] <herschel> I mean at that point I'll probably reinstall windows lol
[19:23] <herschel> but I'd rather not have to do that
[19:23] <leftyfb> herschel: I would start by disabling fast boot in Windows and see if that helps
[19:23] <herschel> what does that do?
[19:24] <tomreyn> that and the hardware clock registry change should be the first thing everyone does who runs windows next to linux
[19:24] <leftyfb> herschel: feel free to google it
[19:26] <herschel> I see, I did that, I'll reboot and see if it worked
[19:38] <Guest28> can anyone give me a hint on grub? I'm stuck
[19:38] <Guest28> I tried to copy my system to another disk but it wont boot
[19:39] <Guest28> unfortunately the second disk is smaller
[19:39] <Guest28> I only need to copy the grub and the efi stuff the main partition is btrfs and I copied with btrfs send
[19:41] <tomreyn> Guest28: the easiest approachis probably to backup and resintall. less easy, unless you are familiar with the shell and block devices and file systems in general, is to do a chroot repair from a live / recovery system.
[19:41] <tomreyn> oh btrfs, i won't be able to help with this.
[19:42] <tomreyn> about grub, you will want to first of all understand / tell us whether you're uefi or bios booting, and where grub is installed.
[19:46] <rudolfsbundulis> Hi, I have a mega annoying usb-c issue with Ubuntu (I described it here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1390959/ubuntu-18-04-loosing-usb-c-displays-usb-devices), if anyone is interrested to spend time reading it, maybe I could get some advice? This is basically making my life unbearable:D
[19:46] <bunjee> I have a "note" on my desktop I cannot get rid of - anyone help out?
[19:46] <rdr> bunjee: is it kde or gnome
[19:46] <bunjee> gnome
[19:47] <Guest28> it's efi
[19:47] <bunjee> rdr - gnome
[19:47] <Guest28> I just wanted to migrate my current disk to another disk
[19:47] <bunjee> rdr - kde - sorry
[19:48] <rdr> oh no problem, you might find more help in #kubuntu for other desktop related problems
[19:48] <rdr> but i'll figure out how to fix it
[19:48] <Guest28> tomreyn then i boot into minimal bash stuff
[19:48] <rdr> click on the note, on the bottom should be a red trash icon
[19:48] <bunjee> rdr - great...
[19:49] <bunjee> rdr - nothing
[19:49] <rdr> nothing pops up? weird
[19:49] <rdr> i am using a new version of KDE
[19:50] <rdr> you might have luck with going into "edit mode" and deleting it from there
[19:50] <bunjee> rdr - how do I find the version of KDE?
[19:50] <rdr> Settings -> About should show you, it's on the bottom
[19:50] <rudolfsbundulis> And maybe a smaller question - can anyone explain what is "Intel SPT PCH root port ACS workaround enabled" line which I see in dmesg, when my usb devices disappear, what is the actual "workaround" and can it be turned off (and what are the consequences)?
[19:50] <rdr> but if you right click the desktop, you might see "Edit mode" or something similar
[19:50] <rdr> then, hover over the note and it should give you options to remove it
[19:52] <bunjee> rdr - I figured it out - thank you...
[19:53] <tomreyn> Guest28: so... if you will try to repair, there are a few things you will need to gain understanding of. are you aware of how the firmware finds the uefi system partition? do you know which one it tried to load grub from? did you update efivars to make it load the right grub. how far does your boot get, is the issue actually with grub not loading or with grub not finding its configuration file, or is the issue in the initrd?
[19:53] <rdr> bunjee: awesome, you might be able to prevent it by changing your "Desktop mode"
[19:53] <tomreyn> Guest28: https://askubuntu.com/a/831241 may be useful for reinstalling grub on the active ESP.
[19:54] <rdr> oh wait, you can still create notes in desktop mode instead of folder mode, it just changes how the desktop folders and files are displayed
[19:56] <Guest28> let me try this command seems to be cool
[19:56] <rdr> but if it's any consolation, they've made it easier to remove notes in the later versions
[20:00] <Guest28> tomreyn https://pastebin.com/ZeEWaWiN
[20:04] <Guest28> I think that's what I wanted to do
[20:04] <Guest28> I have a working rootfs but need to install the bootloader
[20:05] <tomreyn> Guest28: hmm, this sounds like the system failed to access the nvram where the efi variables are stored
[20:05] <Guest28> where's the nvram?
[20:05] <Guest28> I'm using chroot btw
[20:06] <tomreyn> on your mainboard
[20:06] <tomreyn> sorry, i don't have time to explain uefi basics right now
[20:06] <Guest28> it's ok don't worry :)
[20:06] <Guest28> I thought it was saved in a file or something
[20:46] <auctus> so i "sudo apt install fonts-ibm-plex", and then all the text in my installation of gimp turns into boxes. Uninstall fonts-ibm-plex, and gimp is okay again
[20:46] <auctus> i wonder why
[20:49] <herschel> so, the thing I was told re windows sleep mode fixed that problem
[20:49] <herschel> I'm back in ubuntu, I have some problems:
[20:50] <herschel> fractional scaling in wayland in the default wm seems substantially broken, the right of the top of the bar doesn's display
[20:51] <herschel> like it's cut off, and the menu when you hit the super key seems to also think the display should be much smaller
[20:51] <t410_> Habe eine Datei gelöscht.
[20:51] <herschel> er, larger
[20:51] <herschel> anyway, I'm wanting to use sway, I used to run i3 on debian, but I use colemak
[20:51] <t410_> Habe eine Datei gelöscht. sie ist nicht im Papierkorp. Wo finde ich sie?
[20:52] <tomreyn> auctus: how did you install fonts-ibm-plex and gimp? whihc ubuntu release are you running? d you restart gimp in between? is there any error or warning reported when you   sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install    ?
[20:52] <herschel> when I was running i3, I had ibus startup from .xstart or whatever it was
[20:52] <tomreyn> !de | t410_:
[20:52] <herschel> and same for remapping capslock to ctrl
[20:52] <herschel> well, not same, but it was in .xmodmap which is obviously of no help
[20:53] <herschel> and eg like, even if I start ibus manually with sway running, some applications don't respect it? like the defaull terminal takes no notice
[20:54] <herschel> actually it looks like even in the default DE, with colemak it's mapped capslock to backpace? I can't even find where to change that
[20:58] <leftyfb> herschel: switch to xorg from wayland
[20:58] <herschel> just, give up on wayland?
[20:59] <leftyfb> herschel: if it doesn't yet support your needs, then what choice do you have?
[20:59] <herschel> well sure, but it might do what I want and I just don't know how to do it
[20:59] <leftyfb> I've seen multiple issue with fractional scaling
[21:00] <herschel> ho hum
[21:01] <auctus> tomreyn: both by apt from the standard ubuntu repos, ubuntu 20.04, i did restart gimp, no errors from "sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install"
[21:01] <auctus> ...hmm, reinstalled fonts-ibm-plex again and it didnt break gimp this time
[21:01] <herschel> well that might do it I suppose
[21:02] <auctus> computers have so much going on now, hard to know where to look to figure things out
[21:02] <tomreyn> auctus: your system logs can help there sometime, but it takes some time to get used to reading them.
[21:04] <tomreyn> still a *whole lot* better than 'other OS', because you can actually identify and fix root causes.
[21:08] <auctus> i absolutely do not have time in my life for proprietary operating systems. Hey by the way we put ads in the menus and we're rebooting with no option to delay
[21:09] <herschel> okay back in xorg
[21:10] <herschel> the colemak layout in the default DE has capslock to backspace, which, honestly the kb layout shouldn't be messing with that and that's not standard colemak
[21:10] <herschel> but, in any case, it doesn't look like there's any way to edit
[21:10] <herschel> it
[21:11] <herschel> ibus works fine, so I can leave the DE's setup alone, and I plan on using i3 anyway
[21:11] <herschel> but, the way in the past I had setup the capslock to control thing doesn't work with the way login works, I guess?
[21:12] <herschel> unless I just rip out the entire DE altogether, and start x by hand each time from the shell
[21:29] <mannequin> i need some assistance in pinning jammy to my focal
[21:29] <leftyfb> mannequin: here we go again
[21:29] <leftyfb> mannequin: do not do that
[21:30] <mannequin> i need new kernel
[21:30] <mannequin> the kernel.org one fails to build
[21:31] <leftyfb> you said everything was fine with your 5.13.0.27, use that
[21:31] <mannequin> ok
[21:33] <mannequin> but there is no guarantee .29 wont contain the same bug
[21:33] <leftyfb> mannequin: if you have enabled jammy repo's on your machine and updated or installed packaged which pulled in a bunch of other packages, it is now time to wipe your machine and reinstall from scratch.
[21:34] <mannequin> i did not
[21:34] <leftyfb> mannequin: there's no guarantee there's a bug in the kernel to begin with
[21:34] <mannequin> i know how to pin but on debian
[21:35] <sarnold> mannequin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:36] <mannequin> bookmarked
[21:57] <mannequin> ok found a way how to properly remove .28
[21:57] <mannequin> apt-get autoremove `apt-cache search linux | grep 5.13.0-28 | awk '{print $1}'`
[22:06] <purpleidea> hey folks, i'm digging into zfs in ubuntu and I'm trying to understand why there are dkms packages as well as zfs.ko built-kernel-module-binary stuff already built in some packages? Are both mechanisms used for zfs? What does the installer use? What is going on? Many thanks!
[22:08] <sarnold> purpleidea: the dkms packages aren't used in most situations
[22:08] <purpleidea> sarnold: Do you know the historical story behind this or why they're still around?
[22:08] <sarnold> purpleidea: they're handy if you need to patch zfs for something, or if you want to run a different version
[22:08] <purpleidea> sarnold: that's a good point, thanks!
[22:09] <purpleidea> sarnold: Am I correct in assuming that the stock zfs.ko version built by ubuntu core is what most people use then?
[22:09] <sarnold> purpleidea: my assumption is that leaving them in place inthe zfs-linux package reduces the size of change that we'd carry from the debian packages
[22:09] <purpleidea> sarnold: another excellent point RE: debian, thanks!
[22:10] <sarnold> purpleidea: I'm not entirely sure which gets more use... I'm using the zfs.ko from the kernel packages on my laptop, but my larger server had an issue that was easier to resolve via a patch to the dkms packages, and that's what I'm running there. so I've got one of each :) heh
[22:11] <purpleidea> sarnold: fantastic, thanks! -- silly question, but can you confirm if the ubuntu installer itself uses the zfs.ko or dkms? (i assume the former, but I haven't found the build scripts for the .iso yet)
[22:11] <sarnold> purpleidea: it'll almost certainly be the zfs.ko from the kernel packages -- it takes an eternity to build the dkms packages, there's a fair amount of single-threadedness going on in those builds :(
[22:12] <purpleidea> that's what i thought, thank you again
[22:12] <sarnold> it certianly wouldn't be a fun and easy installation experience :) hehe
[22:15] <purpleidea> agreed!
[22:15] <purpleidea> sarnold: many thanks!
[22:22] <sarnold> purpleidea: sure thing :)
[22:31] <bray90820> Hey so I am having a graphical issue on 21.10 when in full screen mode the sidebar flickers for like 10 seconds
[22:32] <bray90820> My video card is a XFX Radeon RX 570 RS
[22:34] <tomreyn> bray90820: that's the dock on a default ubuntu desktop? is there anything on your logs about an amdgpu issues?
[22:34] <bray90820> It is the dock
[22:34] <bray90820> And how would I view my logs
[22:34] <bray90820> Where are they located
[22:34] <tomreyn> journalctl
[22:35] <tomreyn> journalctl -b    for the current runtimes', -f to follow, -k for only kernel messages, and there are many other options
[22:36] <tomreyn> there's also a GUI
[22:38] <tomreyn> those logs are from /var/log/journal - stored in a binary format. if you still have rsyslog or another syslog daemon installed you probably also have plain text (/gzip compressed) logs in /var/log/syslog
[22:50] <shibboleth> yeah, because when you're troubleshooting binary logs are exactly what you're looking for
[22:50] <shibboleth> kinda like how on windows your system must be bootable to reboot into safemode for troubleshooting :P
[22:51] <shibboleth> unless you pull the power during boot five times or had the foresight to enable legacyboot for f8 access
[23:04] <bray90820> tomreyn: If you are still around here is the log not exactly sure what it all means but the part with the graphical glitches should be near the bottom
[23:04] <bray90820> https://pastebin.com/raw/LGaN6ung
[23:12] <tomreyn> bray90820: do you have custom gnome-shell extensions installed? if so, try whether it still happens after you disable them (temporarily)
[23:16] <parakovsky> guys can somebody please explain to me how to recompile the kernel on ubuntu 20 to apply the patch that makes usb bluetooth dongle works as explained here https://askubuntu.com/a/1222944 I never patched kernel before
[23:17] <bray90820> tomreyn: I disabled them and yes it still happens
[23:19] <tomreyn> bray90820: from a quick glance, there were no critical messages about amdgpu on your log. and since it only affects the fock, i suspect it's more likely something in the gnome domain
[23:19] <jhutchins> parakovsky: It's a rare skill these days, but this may help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/163298/whats-a-simple-way-to-recompile-the-kernel
[23:20] <bray90820> tomreyn: So what does that mean to me?
[23:21] <tomreyn> bray90820: i suggest trying with a new user account, this should tell whether it's happening due to modifications you have made in yours.
[23:21] <bray90820> I'll do that later got stuff to do right now
[23:21] <bray90820> But thanks for your help
[23:21] <tomreyn> you're welcome