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duuudeI heard ubuntu is including 0ad by default in some experimental releases, is that true?00:02
sarnoldduuude: you can see the publishing history on the source package page on launchpad https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/0ad00:02
duuudeMaybe it is the snap one?00:04
tomreynhttps://play0ad.com/download/linux/#Ubuntu lists several options00:05
sarnoldoh, hah, I missed your 'by default' in your question ..00:05
sarnoldI doubt a leaf application like 0ad will be in any of the installation seeds..00:06
tomreynoh i missed that, too00:06
duuudesomeone said that and i shivered in horror00:06
Maikduuude: you have actual proof of that? Link or somehing?00:09
Maikbecause 'i heard' just doesn't cut it for me00:10
duuudeSome rando told me. Probably not true.00:12
duuudeIf y'all don't know about it00:12
sarnoldheh, I learn about things from google's 'news' feed all the time..00:13
sarnoldbut it seems pretty unlikely to me00:13
Maikif that was the case, the first one to write about it would be OMG!Ubuntu and since they didn't post any kind of article about it, it's not true00:14
Maikduuude: besides that, such questions are better suited in #ubuntu-discuss since it's not a support question :)00:15
Maiknight peeps, chat later00:16
duuudecool, i just came to the ubuntu channel and didn't see an offtopic link00:16
Maikduuude: we have #ubuntu-discuss for other ubuntu talk and there's #ubuntu-offtopic for casual talk00:17
black_13how would you make a portable executeable00:42
i_am_beetsDepends on what you're trying to execute I suppose. You might be able to just unzip an apps' tarball onto a USB and it'll include everything you need in there.00:44
VeryGenericDoes anyone know how Ubuntu ships Yaru pre-enabled? I've been trying to figure it out to no avail01:44
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sarnoldVeryGeneric: you can use the seeded-in-ubuntu tool to figure out what's kinda default..02:03
sarnold$ seeded-in-ubuntu -b yaru-theme-gnome-shell02:03
sarnoldyaru-theme-gnome-shell is seeded in:02:03
sarnold  ubuntu: daily-canary, daily-live, daily-preinstalled02:03
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webchat18I have a public domain name on godaddy (rnxlive.com) that I would like to setup on Ubuntu, can anyone help me?02:33
bigbianarchnginx? apache?02:35
bigbianarchwebchat1802:35
webchat18apache02:35
sarnoldwebchat18: I'm headed out.. so just a link to hopefully helpful docs :) https://ubuntu.com/server/docs02:35
webchat18perfect thanks!02:36
tomreynfortunately soemeone guessed right in that you're talking http/https (apparently)02:41
Guest74Does anyone have any experience with Ubuntu Advantage subscription portal?02:41
Guest74under "UA Infra - Essential (Virtual)" it says 11 Machines02:41
Guest74does that mean I can attach up to 11 VMs to my subscription?02:41
tomreynCanonical commercial support does02:41
Guest74or that i already have attached 11 machines to my subscription?02:42
Guest74I tried calling support but their phone quality was really bad and was cutting out every second word. I eventually got disconnected by the operator02:43
bigbianarchwebchat18  `cat /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl.conf`02:45
rdrso on my snap package, it shows the home directory as /home/335/, any ideas?02:47
rdror rather... 335 is the directory name02:47
rdractually, it's /home/rdr/snap/fluffychat/335/02:48
webchat18bigbianarch https://pastebin.com/s25BsFRW02:48
rdrso maybe a fluffychat issue02:48
lotuspsychjerdr: snap support, contact the maintainer; contact:   christian-pauly@posteo.de02:49
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Guest74turns out "11 Machines" means that If you have never run "ua attach" command before, all 11 should be available.03:43
Guest74thank you all for the help03:44
donofrioAnyone know how to start Wayland-0 in one screen and not all three only want one screen to have wayland-0 http://paste.opensuse.org/18154248 - this is a w11 host runing wsl2 and ubuntu 20.04 stock from microsoft store (no x11 anything) no rdp anything https://dpaste.org/UqOm03:50
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leftyfbdonofrio: please stop asking for help with WSL here. You've been told this before. It's not something we can support. Nor is desktop officially supported on WSL04:27
donofrioleftyfb, I'm not doing anything that is not stock, really this time my wayland-0 question is me trying to change a stock outcome to use only one screen and not all three...I can live with all three but really would like just one (and by stock I mean install w11, add ubuntu from ms-store and run it04:31
leftyfbuh, desktop on WSL is not stock. WSL uses a cloud image, Microsoft kernel and no display server04:32
leftyfbDesktop is not supported on WSL and definitely not here. That’s not to say you can’t get it to work, but that is not a supported feature04:33
leftyfbjoin #windows-wsl for support04:34
Gallomimiaummmm, do any of you uber-nerds know how to install the unity editor on ubuntu (21.10)04:45
Gallomimiathe actual unity website is not forthcoming. it alludes to some preview version for ubuntu being available04:46
Gallomimia#apt install unity04:47
Gallomimiauhhhhhh04:47
Gallomimiawhat version will it be tho?04:47
Gallomimia!package unity04:48
leftyfbGallomimia: that would be a Unity support issue04:48
* Gallomimia rummages around in the channel list04:48
leftyfbThe “unity” package in Ubuntu has nothing to do with the Unity game development company04:48
Gallomimiawell that is good to know at least thanks04:48
leftyfbAlso, maybe best not to start your request for help by calling people names04:49
Gallomimiawhat? uber-nerd is the utmost of praise04:49
Gallomimiasuch people are the exact reason i come here04:50
bigbianarchlol04:58
orsonuwubuntu05:39
orsoni need help05:39
orsoni cant find my hexchat app05:40
priyankHi, my second monitor is not getting any video output. https://pastebin.com/psiQ55Hb05:40
orsonvga shiiiii05:42
Bashing-omorigintopleft: "i cant find my hexchat app" >> what shows ' sudo find / -name hexchat ' ?05:50
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bray90820Has anyone ever experenced an issue with ubuntu where when you close the lid on a laptop then the computer fails to respond even holding the power button down for 5 seconds doesn't work06:22
bray90820Like you need to open up the laptop and unplug the battery for it to work again?06:23
bray90820?06:23
Ravageholding the power button should be a hardware feature06:30
bray90820Ravage:do you mean it not turning on/off after holding the power button indicates a hardware fqailure?06:31
Ravageboot a live system fron USB and test it06:32
Ravageor try it from your BIOS06:32
blahboybazI'm wanting to make sure I understand the error reporting process..  do you have to sign in to ubuntu one on the website to report a crash report? (I'm talking about when the system prompts you with a system problem - the operating system - and you click to send the error report - do you end up having to sign in to ubuntu one before the report is submitted?)06:33
bray90820Thanks for the tips I'll try that tomorow going to bed right now06:33
bray90820Thanks for the help06:33
Ravagegood night06:33
Maikblahboybaz: afaik not, only if you want to manually report bugs on launchpad06:35
blahboybazMaik: After clicking to report the crash and then being promted for my password (by the o/s) then a tab opened in my browser to the ubuntu one page - of course the first thing it presented me with is trying to make me agree to cookies (uggg)06:38
blahboybazI don't know why it took me to the website06:38
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webchat27Hello, I am on Lubuntu and am suddenly having an issue where my system will not activate the screensaver, and when I activate it manually the XScreenSaver dialog appears on its own after a while, indicating that some mouse or keyboard input is being registered automatically. I have tried unplugging my mouse and disabling my laptop's touchpad with08:13
webchat27xinput but this continues to happen. How can I track what this input might be?08:13
davehai i cannot update ubuntu 16 to 18 can some help me please?08:21
laleludave,  how do you try to update?08:26
neurehi08:27
neureI'd like to set wallpaper for grub08:28
Maikdave: probably because 16.04 is EOL08:28
neureany recommendations for something easy that can do this for me?08:28
recycleherohow to make a grub-floppy for i386-pc on ubuntu08:28
lalelui upgraded from 16.04 to 20.04 a few days ago08:28
laleluwith no problems08:28
davemaik yes08:28
laleluwhat is "do-release-upgrade" telling you ?08:29
davelalelu how u did that ?08:29
davei got this when trying to update https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FmWCFCgqHY/plain/08:29
lalelure-enabled the update manager and let it run 2 times08:29
davelalelu https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rzy8GtvTJD/plain/08:30
davelalelu im using headless ubuntu08:30
lalelusorry i can't open that page08:31
EriC^^_dave: type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:31
EriC^^_lalelu: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rzy8GtvTJD08:31
daveeric it same error ..08:32
EriC^^_dave: dist-upgrade or upgrade?08:33
laleluyes dist-upgrade08:33
davedist-upgrade show me this log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/55DJBH7GCY/08:35
EriC^^_dave: hmm try 'apt-mark showhold'08:36
daveeric: it return nothing08:37
EriC^^_dave: try 'apt-cache policy php-soap'08:38
EriC^^_!info php-soap bionic08:38
ubottu'bionic' is not a valid release08:38
daveeric : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dhcKbvq7cN/08:39
davewhat should i do ?08:40
laleluit's "update" first then "upgrade"08:40
davelalelu : it not working ,, i guessing eric found the real problem08:41
EriC^^_dave: what happens when you try 'sudo apt-get install php-soap' ?08:42
daveeric : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q4sJDnng45/08:43
EriC^^_dave: do you need those stuff? it's coming from a ppa, if you can delete the ppa it's better08:43
davei dont need the php7.3 but i need php7.2 to make the web running08:44
EriC^^_dave: you want to upgrade to 20.04 right?08:44
daveeric:  how to delete ?08:44
EriC^^_you're on 16.04 right now correct08:44
EriC^^_dave: use this tool https://github.com/ericj112/ppa-tool08:45
daveeric : Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-210-generic x86_64)08:45
davei need to update ubuntu 1808:45
EriC^^_ok08:46
EriC^^_sounds good08:46
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daveeric: thanks i will remove the ppa then let see what happen next08:48
EriC^^_dave: np, ok08:49
VIAhi all! im going nuts. can someone help me figue out why "kdeconnectd" isnt starting anymore ?09:01
VIAactually that might not be the problem i dont use networking in that sense09:03
webchat27I tried using the x event viewer and it does not show any keyboard events, but some keyboard or mouse event is still being triggered even when the mouse is unplugged and the touchpad is disabled09:12
AlslinetAny good chats/communities for linux enterprise type questions?10:11
lotuspsychjeAlslinet: there's a #linux channel on this network if you like10:15
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donofrioAnyone know how to start Wayland-0 in one screen and not all three only want one screen to have wayland-0 http://paste.opensuse.org/18154248 - this is a w11 host runing wsl2 and ubuntu 20.04 stock from microsoft store (no x11 anything) no rdp anything https://dpaste.org/UqOm10:55
neureHi! How do I change theme for Qt based application?11:16
neureI want to change an application to use dark theme11:17
duuudehow to reset the system except for the packages so far installed?11:18
duuudeI mean, making the system like I installed it fresh and then installed those packages on it11:18
Maikduuude: reinstall is the only option i guess if you want to start from scratch11:21
tuxinatorduuude: maybe save a package-list in .txt reinstall / (i hope you have a separate /home partition) and apply the contents of the packages.txt file, example in bash shell apt-get install $(cat packages.txt)11:21
tomreynAlslinet: or you could just ask here or on #ubuntu-server if you have questions specific to ubuntu11:24
ducasseduuude: use dpkg --set-selections/--get-selections to create a list and reinstall from that list11:40
ducasseduuude: also, most of the config you might have changed will be in your homedir11:55
BluesKaj'morning all13:03
i_am_beetsmorning13:03
KBari_am_beets: good morning. How can we help you today?13:06
bliterdzhai master13:06
bliterdzim newibie13:07
bliterdzaowkak13:07
bliterdzgabisa bahasa inggris13:07
bliterdzim not speak einglish13:07
EriC^^_which country are you from bliterdz13:07
KBarEriC^^_: looks like either Malaysia or Indonesia.13:08
KBarI think "bahasa" means language in those two languages.13:09
EriC^^_i see, thanks13:09
BluesKajIP shows  Indonesia13:10
KBarEriC^^ sorry should have used ubottu's knowledge base. i came too late i guess13:11
EriC^^_hehe no worries13:12
petohi, can someone help me? i use nextcloud on my server, and this is error i have in error log (Image size of 6000x8000 would exceed allowed memory limit of 128) but memory limit i have set to 1G, any idea? :/13:27
i_am_beetsI'm not too familiar with nextcloud, but have you restarted the app since changing your memory limits? It might need to reload the config13:28
Ravagethere is #nextcloud13:37
peto@i_am_beets there can i only restart apache service13:45
dongsaiMy Ubuntu 16 04 tried to activate ESM, but there was an error13:49
dongsaidongasai@dongasai-desktop:~$ sudo ua attach *****13:50
dongsaiInvalid token. See https://ubuntu.com/advantage13:50
brjlWhat's glibc's latest package for Ubuntu 20.04?13:56
brjlAnd what's it's name?13:56
taholmes160Good Morning everyone -- I got my new Ubuntu box up and running.  I Installed tightvnc server on the ubuntu box, and when I try to connect to it -- I get the generic x server grey screen -- I have googled around and tried several different Xstartup files -- none seem to change anything -- this computer is on the same network and specifically on the same switch (a 1 gig switch) as the windows compt13:58
tomreyn!info libc6 focal13:58
ubottulibc6 (2.31-0ubuntu9.2, focal): GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Built by glibc. Size 2,652 kB / 13,246 kB13:58
taholmes160er that iwll be accessing it -- so I dont mind serving gnome13:58
taholmes160im not sure how to resolve the issue of the grey screen13:59
tomreynbrjl: see what ubottu said, you can check such on https://packages.ubuntu.com13:59
tomreyndongsai: sorry, we can't support ESM here, you'll need to talk to Canonical on that14:00
nikolamHi, I were under impression before, that the only way to set btrfs compression on dataset is to set chattr +C on it. Now I am unsure if actually +c is needed to be set with btrfs commands.. For some reason it refuses to set chattr +C on newly created btrfs dataset..14:00
tomreyndongsai: specifically, we only support the ubuntu releases listed in the /topic14:00
tomreyntaholmes160: you haven't told us which ubuntu version you're using. note that the latest one defaults to xwayland / wayland, which is probably not compatible to the tightvnc server14:02
taholmes160OOPS -- im sorry -- hang on lemme make sure14:03
ice9is it possible to disable snap auto update?14:03
taholmes160Tomreyn -- Im using 21.1014:03
KBarice9 I don't think so. it's a "feature": https://snapcraft.io/docs/keeping-snaps-up-to-date also check https://askubuntu.com/questions/930593/how-to-disable-autorefresh-in-snap14:04
tomreyntaholmes160: this defaults to wayland. you can change it in gdm's configuration file for gdm, and on the gdm session chooser for the actual desktop session14:04
KBarice9: generally you don't want to disable it, unless you're on a data plan14:04
tomreyntaholmes160: gdm being the graphical login manager14:05
ice9KBar, it's annoying because for example while you are working on firefox, it terminates to install the update without your consent14:05
taholmes160@tomreyn -- im afraid you just went over my head -- im sorry14:05
KBarice9: snaps weren't developed for desktop users specifically, there are servers as well14:06
KBars/specifically/only14:06
jchittumice9: no you cannot completely disable. I believe there is a feature for setting when updates can happen though. Here's information: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/disabling-automatic-refresh-for-snap-from-store/70714:07
KBarice9: try the steps described in that question on askubuntu and ^ that link14:07
jchittumice9: snaps were originally developed as part of the Ubuntu phone (press F). Since then they've become the "core" of Ubuntu Core, and have wide usage on desktop and server. for instance,  in clouds, many cloud agents are delivered as snaps14:08
KBarjchittum: interesting and that actually makes sense. do you happen to have a link for your claims, for the lack of a better word, sorry?14:09
KBarfor this "snaps were originally developed as part of the Ubuntu phone (press F)" part specifically14:10
neureafter sudo apt install kde-plasma-desktop, how to I switch back to gnome desktop look?14:12
neureI think it changed my window manager (appearance) at leat14:12
taholmes160can someone tell me how to address a specific person in here -- I cant remember14:12
KBarneure: on the login screen there should be a gear icon (probably something else on KDE). click on it and select GNOME Session or something similar14:13
neureKBar, I thought so but there is no such gear icon14:14
neureThis is recently installed 20.0414:14
KBartaholmes160: as in DM them?14:14
neureHow can I check which desktop I can currently running?14:14
KBarneure: you probably need to "Switch User" first14:15
jchittumKBar: does answer 2 on this suffice? https://askubuntu.com/questions/963404/what-do-snap-snapd-and-snappy-refer-to14:15
KBarneure: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP14:15
jchittumI can try to dig through more Ubuntu Phone history, but it predates my time at Canonical.14:16
neureThat says ubuntu:GNOME14:16
neureso I am already in gnome desktop14:16
neurethe issue is that simply installing kde-plasma-desktop it changed how my gnome desktop looks14:16
neureso my question is, how do I restore gnome desktop to look like it did?14:17
KBarneure: well, that's how it works14:17
KBarneure: you can't. Reinstall14:17
neurewhat if I uninstall  kde-plasma-desk ?14:17
KBarneure: check this thread on UbuntuForums: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241567614:17
jchittumtaholmes160 : if you use their nick in a message, most people will get an alert. For DM you can do `/msg <NICK`14:17
KBarneure: that's just a virtual/meta package. It's empty.14:18
KBarneure: even if you delete all 200 packages one by one, their config files will still be left14:18
neureIs there no remove-also-config files?14:18
KBarneure: even `dpkg-reconfigure` won't help14:18
neurehuh, that kind of sucks14:19
neurewhat the config files are in question?14:19
KBarneure there is `apt purge` but you may completely break your system14:19
KBarneure: check that thread. it explains everything14:19
KBar20 minute read max14:19
neureand TLDR?14:19
KBarneure: YOU CANT14:19
KBarundo14:19
neureI can but sounds like the fix is reinstall?14:20
neureIs there such thing as reinstall on top of current system?14:20
KBarthis is like reborn, but yes, fresh install will do14:20
neureare the config files system files or user files?14:20
KBarneure: sure. but thats not reinstall anymore14:20
KBarneure: just back them up and reinstall afresh14:20
KBarinstallation takes 5 minutes14:21
neureI have separate home partition14:21
KBarneure: well that eases the process14:21
KBarby a lot14:21
neureI installed  kde-plasma-desktop because with it (system-settings) I can change the color theme of Qt applications14:22
KBaryou will select other partitions to remove and leave /home untouched. 1) https://askubuntu.com/questions/142695/what-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-having-a-separate-home-partition 2) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving14:22
neurenow I would like to know how to do that without installing kde-plasma-desktop14:22
KBarnow i dont use KDE nor Qt apps. But there should be something similar to gtk.css files14:23
KBarneure: or maybe use snaps?14:23
neureWhat do you suggest?14:23
neureThe application in question is Beyond Compare14:24
KBarneure: is it in the ubuntu repositories?14:24
neureNo it is just a .deb14:25
neureFrom https://www.scootersoftware.com/download.php14:25
neureCan I reinstall from my nvme drive or do I need to use USB stick for that?14:27
neureOr if I maybe more often reinstall, can I even make installer partition?14:27
KBarneure: i dont have a solution for your problem as I've never used KDE or Qt.14:27
KBarneure: try https://askubuntu.com/questions/910012/how-can-i-get-qt5-applications-to-use-the-gtk-theme-in-ubuntu-17-0414:27
KBarneure: "my nvme drive" as in the one that has the current Ubuntu installation?14:28
neureKBar, yeah - I have some spare space on it14:29
taholmes160Kbar -- no as like you addressed me in that message14:29
KBartaholmes160: start typing in someone's nick and press Tab for autocompletion14:29
KBarlike in bash14:30
taholmes160KBar: cool -- thats got it14:30
taholmes160thanks14:30
KBarneure: not sure. if you know how to create a separate partition  and filesystem for the iso image, you probably can. never bothered doing that. refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux as a start14:31
KBartaholmes160: no problem14:31
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taholmes160Hi Folks, I am on Ubuntu 21.10 - I have vnc server (tightvnc) installed on the ubuntu box, when I try to vnc in, I get a grey screen -- can you point me to how to fix?  Someone said that I should change something in the GDM Chooser -- I cant seem to find how to start that -- can someone help --14:36
taholmes160its been 10+ years since I have used Linux so I'm kinda rusty14:36
KBarjchittum: awesome. thanks for the link. diving into yet another rabbit's hole…14:38
KBarneure: just to keep you informed. it doesn't look like there is an analog of gtk.css files on Qt. at least i couldn't find anything that would help you in this particular situation14:42
tomreyntaholmes160: give this a try14:43
tomreynhttps://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/sharing-desktop.html14:43
tomreyn(undo the tightvnc configurations beforehand)14:44
taholmes160Cool14:45
taholmes160thanks14:45
AlslinetAnyone know of a script or other solution to get the user home directory from the Active Directory user object and map their home drive automatically?14:57
taholmes160tomreyn: just uninstall tightvnc?15:04
taholmes160also, what client will I use on my windows computer?  Remote Desktop?15:08
regedits.o.s. pls halp15:25
regeditupgraded server to ubuntu 2015:25
regeditsite is down...15:25
regeditlatest cause i've been able to find: ping -n 8.8.8.8 says "ping: connect: Network is unreachable"15:26
regedit`ip a` https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/IQArRuZE/ip_a.png15:27
regeditwhat can i try next?15:27
leftyfbregedit: look at the network config15:30
regeditok lemme try looking up how to do that..15:33
KBarcoming back to ask a question. Xubuntu 20.04, pulseaudio 13.99.1 lets say i have my headphone jacked into my laptop. now i want sound output to go to my laptop speakers, but i dont want to unplug my headphones. how do i do that on a software level? pavucontrol lets me select speakers as the output port althought it's status is (Unavailable) and no sound comes out. `pacmd set-sink-port 0 analog-output-speaker` does the same and yields the15:34
KBar same result15:34
leftyfbregedit: why did you do an in-place upgrade to a public-facing critical server if you don't know the basics like how to check the network config?15:34
regeditleftyfb: i've done it before... was hoping for the best... 😬 i regret everythingggg...... 😭15:35
KBarregedit: hope is not a great tool when you dont possess the necessary knowledge15:35
regeditnow i know..15:36
regedit'ip route' shows only 1 output line: 10.10.0.0/16 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 10.10.0.515:40
regedittraceroute6: www.google.com: Temporary failure  in name resolution15:40
taholmes160Ive go the ubuntu screen sharing set up and its working except when I type on the remote computer (which is using tightvnc) it wants to put everything in caps15:42
leftyfbregedit: that is not your network config15:42
leftyfbregedit: do you have a sysadmin for this critical server of yours? You should give them a call15:43
regeditleftyfb: if there's a command to output what you're asking - can you kindly please share 🙏15:43
leftyfbregedit: what version of ubuntu did you upgrade from? What version of ubuntu did you upgrade do? How exactly did you perform the upgrade?15:44
regedit18 (was it 18.04 i think?) to 20 (20.04?) with do-release-upgrade15:45
leftyfbregedit: is there a desktop GUI installed on it?15:45
regeditno.. i just have VPS provider console access15:46
regeditdigitalocean in this case15:46
leftyfbah VPS, even better :/15:46
leftyfbregedit: you should really call your provider to help you get it back online15:46
regeditmaybe15:46
regeditticket submitted15:49
g3poandlslI'm trying to use reprepro to mirror the docker-ce repos for focal and bionic, but when I attempt to `reprepro -V update` I get a checksum error for the containerd.io package, because the package has the same filename in both focal and bionic repos.15:53
g3poandlslIs it possible to configure reprepro to rename package files as they are downloaded to the pool?15:54
regedit`sudo lshw -class network` https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/rpPHGbJT/lshw-network.png16:00
KBarg3poandlsl: maybe there is an option like --to-stdout?16:00
regedit`sudo ethtool eth0` https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/uXDvudjQ/ethtool-eth0.png16:02
g3poandlslKBar, thanks for the suggestion. I don't see an option like that in the man pages, especially as it pertains to updates in reprepro16:06
regeditleftyfb: `ifconfig` maybe? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jjaKhuCw/ifconfig.png16:09
KBarg3poandlsl: sorry im not familiar with such things. i just know that wget has that option which allows you to specify the name with -O and you can do all sorts of things concurrently. and i was factually wrong, its not --to-stdout but --output-document=file16:10
regedit`cat /etc/network/interfaces` https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2J59UXpa/%2Fetc%2Fnetwork%2Finterfaces.png16:12
alkisgregedit, what's the output of: uname -a16:14
alkisgOr smaller: uname -r16:14
regedit`/etc/network/interfaces.d/50-cloud-init.cfg` https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/yibdzGkX/%2Fetc%2Fnetwork%2Finterfaces.d%2F50-cloud-init.cfg.png16:14
RumenHello16:14
regeditalkisg: 5.4.0-97-generic16:15
RumenI would like to ask something. I have old 2 TB hdd and it start show bad sectors, so I think to get a new one, but I'm stuck in choice to get a SSD or HDD, one friend told me to get both and use the SSD for the OS and the HDD for backup, but to move the VAR/LOG to the HDD - is that right?16:16
jhutchinsRumen: If you're seeing bad sectors increasing, definitely get the new hardware soon.16:17
RumenShould I move the /home to the HDD as well?16:17
recycleheroGuys where can I find grub stage* files?16:18
jhutchinsRumen: SSD will usually offer a significantly better performance, particularly on start-up and starting applications, or loading files from disc.16:18
jhutchinsRumen: Most of the advice for moving /var/log is because it gets lots of continuous writes, which can "wear out" an SSD.  This advice is based on early designs for SSSs, which are now pretty close to being as durable as spinning discs.16:19
jpmhwhen I sign in Ubuntu tells me that a restart is required, if indeed there has been an upgrade that needs it.  What file is the login process using to determine that this restart is required?  I'd like to check for it myself16:20
jhutchinsRumen: You are likely to out-grow an SSD before it wears out.16:20
RumenYes, but if I keep the log and cache on the SSD will read and writte non stop and will die pretty quickly, right?16:20
jhutchinsRumen: No.16:20
jhutchinsRumen: Almost all laptops are pure SSD these days, and they have comparable life expectancies.16:21
RumenSo no need to move the log and cache to HDD?16:21
RumenJust backup from time to time as do today?16:21
Rumenregular backup I mean16:21
jhutchinsjpmh: Usually the suggestion to restart is due to an updated kernel; compare dpkg -l kernel* with uname -a16:22
RumenAha OK got it, thanks a lot!16:22
jhutchinsjpmh: if there is a kernel listed in the dpkg output that is newer than the running kernel listed by uname, rebooting will load the newer one.16:23
alkisgregedit, what's the output of: uname -r16:25
jpmhjhutchins: yes - I know when it is required.  So, are you saying there is some command that I can provide to dpkg that will tell me?  And, more to the point, is that what the login process does, or is there some file that was set by the upgrade that it looks at16:25
jpmh?16:25
regeditalkisg: 5.4.0-97-generic16:27
regeditis alkisg seeing my messages? i replied twice so far, not sure if he copy16:29
KBarjpmh: only kernel updates require a reboot which you should do no matter what, unless you have Livepatch set up, in which case no reboot is required.16:33
KBarjpmh: `dpkg` is concerned about Debian packages. It doesn't tell you anything about kernel and what it wants to do.16:34
neureHow do I figure out what /dev/nvme1n1p3 is called in grub?16:35
jpmhKBar - so - I return to my original question.  My systems do an unattended upgrade - then when I log in I get told that I need to re-boot.  I would like to be able to have a daemon or probably crontab task check  for that condition and alert me that a re-boot is required.  So, what do I need to look at to know this?16:35
KBarneure: what do you mean by "in GRUB"? The GRUB meny entry, command-line, /etc/default/grub, or something else?16:35
neureIn /etc/grub.d/40_custom16:36
neureset root='hd0,6' # this mean /dev/sda616:36
neureI'll see if I can use UUID16:37
KBarjpmh: you can `wmctrl -lpG`, find the PID of that window and then `ps -ef --pid PID`16:40
KBartho im not sure if wmctrl works in wayland16:43
regeditleftyfb: any chance any of the above screenshots are the network config?16:43
KBarregedit: did you call a professional?16:44
regeditKBar: where can i find one, profficient with Ubuntu and DigitalOcean16:45
KBarregedit: didn't you say you submitted a ticket?16:45
regediti did16:45
KBarregedit: leave the system alone and let them do their job. you're probably gonna butcher the system further16:46
regeditnot doing anything ATM16:46
regedithttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Sf5mUV5l/ticket.png16:46
KBaryou're issuing commands that you (i assume) have no clue about16:46
KBarthis "not doing anything ATM" can turn to something catastrophic in the blink of an eye16:47
regediti think i'm doing "read only" commands16:47
KBarregedit: you also thought and hoped you could do it on your own…16:48
regeditsomeone else is suggesting i try this... but now i'm scared to https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/skfo0zP9/suggestion.png16:48
KBarregedit: i don't understand anything about networking and such so i wont touch it. if you are scared and clueless, do like me16:49
regeditwonderful... digitalocean support says dont upgrade in place - migrate to new droplet... 🤦‍♂️16:52
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jhutchinsregedit: That's the industry standard for reliable operations.  Build, test, migrate.16:55
jhutchinsregedit: Among other things, this gives the option to fall back to the older version if there's a problem.16:56
Sven_vB!lts16:59
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Focal (Focal Fossa 20.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information.16:59
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regeditwell the above `ifconfig` and `ip route add` suggested commands seem to have worked... for now, still much more to figure out (/etc/netplan etc..) but at least the site is back online for now..17:13
Sven_vBhi :) I'm trying to prepare auto-install recipes for computers that I want to roll out in April. would it make sense to try with jammy already, or should I stick to focal?17:21
matsamanI think it would make sense17:22
matsamanSven_vB:17:22
icedwaterlotuspsychje: hello, it's me again. After a bios update (from http://ix.io/3O2j) I get a new dmesg (http://ix.io/3OEC) that has the same ACPI Error you pointed out before.17:25
icedwaterIf you or anyone else can help scan the files to suggest new tactics, I'd greatly appreciate it. But for now, I'd best head to bed. :)17:26
jhutchinsSven_vB: Depends on what the computers will be doing.  Do they need to surf the bleeding edge and find the new bugs and problems in the software, or do they need to sit quietly and do real work?17:27
icedwaterFor a recap of the problem, my Ubuntu 20.04 system is having problems running blender 3.0.1 from snap and it seems that there are some issues getting it to recognise my combo AMD/Intel graphics card.17:27
jhutchinsSven_vB: Pre-release is where the bugs are worked on, so it's expected to be broken occasionally.17:27
icedwaterI'll be available to answer more questions in a few hours, I suppose. :)17:27
Sven_vBjhutchins, I'm torn between the risk of new bugs, and the possibility that some really annoying focal bugs might be fixed.17:28
Sven_vBI guess I'll try jammy. if it's too bad I can still go back.17:33
Sven_vBthanks matsaman and jhutchins :)17:33
aukany opinions on par2deep vs rsbep-backup?17:40
taholmes160Im working on a ubuntu 21.10 station -- i need to check out this file from github --  https://github.com/mottosso/docker-cgwire.git   can someone please point me the right direction17:40
Sven_vBtaholmes160, that's a repo. which file from the repo do you need?17:41
taholmes160The whole thing17:41
Sven_vBtaholmes160, oh I see, you want to run it in Docker probably17:41
taholmes160correct17:41
taholmes160i need to download the container files17:41
Sven_vBtaholmes160, are you interested in the version control aspects or do you just want the latest version?17:42
taholmes160just want the latest version17:42
Sven_vBtaholmes160, the latest version is always available for download at https://github.com/mottosso/docker-cgwire/archive/refs/heads/master.zip . from there it's the usual Docker stuff.17:43
taholmes160ok, lemme try -- thanks17:43
piotrhi all. I found this script online I pasted it to nano made executable fired it up and it hangs. Nothing happens it runs but nothing happens... Could anyone take a look? http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/scripts/q1817:49
Sven_vBpiotr, does it react do Ctrl-d?17:49
piotrSven_vB, nope17:50
Sven_vBalso the coding style in that script is not a good guide. some of the stuff in there is not dangerous just in this case, but can become dangerous if modified.17:51
Sven_vBnot a style I'd expect in a "Linux Shell Scripting Tutorial"17:51
piotrSven_vB, in what way?17:51
Sven_vBinvoking cat and rm with paths that are not separated by --17:52
Sven_vBif you modify it naively and use wildcards, you can fall prey to files named like options17:52
piotras long as it's not escaping virtualbox then that's fine.17:52
piotr;)17:52
piotrBut how to make it work?17:53
Sven_vBalso stuff like multi-line strings with \ at the end of line, when it uses bash. bash has waaay better multiline string quoting methods17:53
Sven_vBno idea what that script is even trying to do.17:53
EriC^^_piotr: you could try debugging with bash -x /path/to/script17:53
adisoncam17:54
piotrSven_vB, some sortof a calendar.17:54
Sven_vBanyway. avoid tutorials by people who use bad syntax; they'll probably also have flawed thinking and/or will forget to warn you about important stuff.17:55
EriC^^_it was made is 2002, maybe use something not prehistoric17:56
piotrEriC^^_, it's going and goin this bash -x :) Is it normal?17:57
Sven_vBEriC^^_, yes17:57
EriC^^_piotr: it should say what it's doing, no output at all?17:58
Sven_vBPricey, yes17:58
Sven_vBPricey, sorry for the noise17:58
EriC^^_piotr: do you have the program dialog installed? it calls it17:58
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Sven_vBpiotr, indeed if you don't have dialog installed, that script runs in an infinite loop. a mistake that would have been easy to avoid for a better tutorial author. ditch that one.17:59
EriC^^_yeah it calls dialog with a 2> so you wont see the error i guess if it's not installed and just get an empty screen18:00
piotrDebugger is still going...18:01
EriC^^_piotr: ctrl+c, sudo apt-get install dialog then run the program18:02
piotrHow do i install dialog is it apt-get?18:02
mannequinis there a way to make ubuntu use a dns server on a specific port?18:02
piotrWill it fix it you think?18:02
EriC^^_minus the -x, as that would really flood the screen with nonsense18:02
mannequinnot port 5318:02
EriC^^_piotr: yeah18:02
piotrdialog installed gaveme help menu.18:03
Sven_vBmannequin, there's probably an elegant way to do it. I hope someone will point it out. if not, my bad idea would be to set a local IP as DNS and then use netfilter to NAT packets that are destined for port 53 on that local IP.18:04
EriC^^_piotr: run the program, not dialog18:05
bigbamboozleHi. Running Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS as headless server - just did a small update using aptitude - maybe 6 packages updated including network manager - now the computer will not connect to the connect (via cable).18:05
piotrWorked!! :)18:05
piotrThank you guys18:05
EriC^^_great :)18:05
EriC^^_no problem18:06
Sven_vBbigbamboozle, so you did an update via network, and now network is unresponsive?18:07
Sven_vBor is "the connect" some device?18:08
bigbamboozleSven_vB - yes... via a terminal on my desktop18:08
bigbamboozleoh sorry my bad - the server doesn't connect to the network via wired cable18:09
Sven_vBI guess your "desktop" means another computer that has a display and keyboard, and "terminal" is some kind of remote control software?18:09
Sven_vBbigbamboozle, what's your fallback access method? how do you usually get a shell in case network fails?18:09
bigbamboozleI logged in via ssh from a terminal on my desktop, yes. and the server booted to a command line as it usually does and i am signed in directly with a keyboard attached to the server.18:11
regediti had to reboot, now their recovery console only shows bootup output, not bringing me to login prompt... 🤦‍♂️18:11
bigbamboozleI did ifconfig and there is no ip address shown ... sorry, my linux knowledge is very spotty18:12
regeditis there a key combination which brings me to login prompt?18:12
Sven_vBregedit, the prompt is probably obscured by log messages. type enter a few times.18:12
piotrcheers guys, take care!18:12
bigbamboozlebye piotr18:12
Sven_vBbigbamboozle, oh I see, so you have a keyboard and display on the server now? then I probably misunderstood "headless"18:12
bigbamboozlewell it WAS headless... until the server didn't connect to the network so I attached a monitor and keyboard18:13
jhutchinsbigbamboozle: Ordinarily we'd look in dmesg and try to find the reason in the noise, these days it's journalctl.18:13
Sven_vBbigbamboozle, I'd start with "nmcli conn" to see what nm thinks about your network situation18:14
Sven_vBalso for that kind of debugging, it's really useful to have a pair of cheap USB UARTs that you can use as a nullmodem replacement.18:16
bigbamboozle'nmcli conn' yields nothing18:16
Sven_vBand then configure a serial line shell18:16
Sven_vBbigbamboozle, that means NM has no network profiles configured. configure one.18:16
Sven_vBbigbamboozle, maybe it's enough to put a profile that says "use DHCP"18:17
bigbamboozlehuh... something went wrong. 30 minutes ago everything was OK.18:17
Sven_vByeah, modern computers are incredibly complex. hard to distinguish from a magical, moody animal.18:19
bigbamboozleSven_vB ... I'm sorry but I have no idea how to create a network profile18:20
Sven_vBbigbamboozle, you can use a desktop GUI system with NetworkManager to manage network profiles in nm's visual editor18:21
Sven_vBthen copy them over18:21
Sven_vBthey are in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/18:21
Sven_vBfor temproary network setup you can use ifconfig (static IP) or dhclient (DHCP)18:23
ioriabigbamboozle, so is network-manager running ?  ps -A | grep -i net18:25
bigbamboozleone sec ... I ran this systemctl status network-manager18:25
bigbamboozleand got this https://pastebin.com/knJKyaqU18:25
ioriabigbamboozle, so is network-manager running ?  ps -A | grep -i net18:26
ioriabigbamboozle, /etc/network/interfaces doesn't exist  indeed on 20.0418:27
bigbamboozlewhen I run ps -A | grep -i net I get four lines I can't tell what they mean one is 870 ? 00:00:00 NetworManager18:29
bigbamboozle*get18:29
ioriabigbamboozle, can you paste it ?18:29
bigbamboozleno18:29
bigbamboozleit's on a separate computer18:30
bigbamboozlemaybe i can take a photo that might be easier18:30
ioriabigbamboozle, nope , no worr... if you have that line it should mean that is running;18:30
ioriabigbamboozle, but i need to see this ; cat /etc/netplan/*18:30
bigbamboozleok hang on a sec18:31
bigbamboozlehttps://pastebin.com/yQs40zC018:33
ioriabigbamboozle, so, you probably have been using networkd and not network-manager18:34
bigbamboozleok18:34
ioriabigbamboozle, you probably need to disable network-manger18:35
bigbamboozlehow do i do that18:35
ioriabigbamboozle, let's try :  sudo systemctl stop network-manager18:35
bigbamboozleok done18:35
ioriabigbamboozle, sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager-wait-online.service18:36
bigbamboozleok18:36
bigbamboozledone18:36
ioriabigbamboozle, sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager-dispatcher.service18:36
bigbamboozledone18:37
ioriabigbamboozle, sudo systemctl disable network-manager18:37
bigbamboozleok the last command spit out a bunch of lines18:38
ioriammm... like what ?18:38
bigbamboozleSynchronizing state of network-manager.sevice with SysV service script with /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install.18:39
ioriaok18:40
bigbamboozleI can type the rest in pastebin if you want18:40
iorianope18:40
ioriabigbamboozle, sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service18:40
bigbamboozleok done18:41
ioriabigbamboozle, sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager-dispatcher.service18:41
bigbamboozleok done18:41
ioriabigbamboozle, ls /etc/network   ... tell me what you see18:41
bigbamboozleif-down.d if-post-down.d if-pre-up.d if-up.d18:43
ioriagood,      bigbamboozle   : dpkg -l | grep ifup18:44
bigbamboozlelol, good, really? ok18:44
bigbamboozlehang on18:44
bigbamboozlesudo dpkg -l | grep ifup18:44
bigbamboozlesorry...hang on18:44
bigbamboozledpkg -l | grep ifup yields nothing18:45
bigbamboozlei have two wireless keyboard that are exactly the same; i get them confused occasionally18:46
ioriabigbamboozle, systemctl status systemd-networkd18:46
bigbamboozlewell that looks better18:46
ioriabigbamboozle, i'd try a reboot18:47
bigbamboozleok18:47
bigbamboozlenope - still doesn't connect18:49
ioriabigbamboozle, ps -A | grep -i net   ( i need to see that)18:50
bigbamboozleok one sec18:51
bigbamboozle34 ? 00:00:00 netns18:54
bigbamboozle854 ? 00:00:00 systemd-network18:55
bigbamboozle876 ? 00:00:00 networkd-dispat18:55
bigbamboozlethat's it18:55
ioriabigbamboozle, run 'ip a'18:55
bigbamboozleip a18:55
iorianot here18:56
bigbamboozlei know - sorry. like i said - two keyboards exactly the same.18:56
bigbamboozleclosest i can come to a screen shot https://bit.ly/34izey618:59
ioriait's wrong19:00
bigbamboozlewhat is19:00
ioriaenp1s0   != enp2s019:00
bigbamboozleright i saw that19:00
ioriabigbamboozle, cat /proc/cmdline19:01
ioriabigbamboozle, and we can try to edit the netplan file19:02
bigbamboozleBOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz-5.4.0-97-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu-lv ro maybe-ubiquity19:03
bigbamboozlehow on earth did this happen19:03
ioriabigbamboozle, open /etc/netplan/*.yaml and change 1 to 219:03
ioriaand 5.4.0-97  is very old19:04
bigbamboozlethat's odd19:04
bigbamboozleisn't it?19:04
bigbamboozleyou want me to change what enp1s0??19:05
bigbamboozleto enp2s0?19:05
EriC^^_ what the heck is 'maybe-ubiquity' kernel parameter O.o19:05
bigbamboozlebeats me19:05
EriC^^_ubiquity is the installer of ubuntu, wonder why it's there19:05
ioriabigbamboozle, the kernel is ok, sorry; yes edit the yaml file19:05
bigbamboozleand then restart the network?19:06
bigbamboozlethe editing is done19:06
ioriabigbamboozle, yes, a reboot is better19:06
bigbamboozleok19:07
bigbamboozleI have a feeling I'm going to end up doing a full reinstall19:07
bigbamboozlethank God.. it worked19:08
bigbamboozlethank you so much19:09
ioriagood, well done19:09
ioria(miller time)19:09
bigbamboozlewhat happens next time do an update ...19:09
bigbamboozle*i do an update19:09
bigbamboozlei have no clue what happened19:09
bigbamboozleit says all packages are up-to-date19:10
bigbamboozlethank you all very much - you know your stuff19:11
regeditwhere do i put a custom startup script to run when system starts up, after everything else, for a non-graphical server19:23
regeditetc/rc2 ? etc/rc3? other19:24
regedit?19:24
leftyfbregedit: you create a systemd service file19:24
regeditah19:24
leftyfbregedit: I hope you're not thinking of adding in your ifconfig command to it to bring up the network on boot19:25
regeditfor the next few days until i move instances - most certainly am.... 🤦‍♂️19:25
leftyfbor you could learn how to setup your network config properly19:25
leftyfbone of the most basic aspects of running a linux server19:26
regediti'm actually considering moving this site to a good ol (bad ol'?) shared hosting... sadly i am not currently aspiring to get deeper into sysadmin-ing....19:26
regedityet...19:27
leftyfbregedit: then look into something like squarespace or wordpress's hosting19:27
leftyfbregedit: you should not be running a server19:28
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regeditindeed.. 😆19:45
regeditmost php dependencies/extensions & composer & acme.sh & much of everything else seems to be available just fine on a shared hosting account without needing root, i think this site will do just fine with that19:46
blauwalHello, I would appreciate help with wine. I'm running a configuration software for a AIS-transponder connected via usb. When I try to connect to the device, an error message pops up: Serial ports can't be opened, probably used by another application. I've followed the advice in the wineHQ wiki: added myself to group "dialout", created a new entry in the registry.19:46
regeditwas trying to tell the previous developer from day 1... but he's too used to spinning up another VPS for every little project...19:47
Maikblauwal: probably best to ask at #winehq19:48
blauwalWhat I'm confused about is that "lsusb" lists the device on USB port 3. Looking at ~/.wine/dosdevices/, however, there is no COM port connected to /dev/ttyUSB0, only COM33 -> /dev/ttyACM0. What's wrong?19:48
blauwalMaik: Thanks, I hadn't been aware of their channel. Will try there.19:49
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jasonhello20:06
taholmes160Hi folks -- its me again -- ive got my computer up and running -- which is a good thing -- couple problems --- I have the app running in in docker but I cannot access it20:18
taholmes160either on the remote or on the local machine20:18
devslashif I don't know the disk encryption password for an installation of Ubuntu, is there any options for recovery or do I need to reinstall ?21:05
leftyfbreinstall21:05
devslashok21:05
leftyfbif there were a way to get around the encryption, there would be no point to the encryption21:06
devslashthat's what I figured but I was just making sure21:06
sarnolddevslash: if you've got a good guess at most of the password, or much of the password, etc, you could try hashcat, see https://www.forensicfocus.com/articles/bruteforcing-linux-full-disk-encryption-luks-with-hashcat/ for a walk-through21:10
devslashI talked to the person who set it up and after a few tries, I stuumbled on the right password21:12
sarnoldyay :)21:12
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Tachit seems apt install freeipa-client for ubuntu does start the config directly ?21:50
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