[00:02] I heard ubuntu is including 0ad by default in some experimental releases, is that true? [00:02] duuude: you can see the publishing history on the source package page on launchpad https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/0ad [00:04] Maybe it is the snap one? [00:05] https://play0ad.com/download/linux/#Ubuntu lists several options [00:05] oh, hah, I missed your 'by default' in your question .. [00:06] I doubt a leaf application like 0ad will be in any of the installation seeds.. [00:06] oh i missed that, too [00:06] someone said that and i shivered in horror [00:09] duuude: you have actual proof of that? Link or somehing? [00:10] because 'i heard' just doesn't cut it for me [00:12] Some rando told me. Probably not true. [00:12] If y'all don't know about it [00:13] heh, I learn about things from google's 'news' feed all the time.. [00:13] but it seems pretty unlikely to me [00:14] if that was the case, the first one to write about it would be OMG!Ubuntu and since they didn't post any kind of article about it, it's not true [00:15] duuude: besides that, such questions are better suited in #ubuntu-discuss since it's not a support question :) [00:16] night peeps, chat later [00:16] cool, i just came to the ubuntu channel and didn't see an offtopic link [00:17] duuude: we have #ubuntu-discuss for other ubuntu talk and there's #ubuntu-offtopic for casual talk [00:42] how would you make a portable executeable [00:44] Depends on what you're trying to execute I suppose. You might be able to just unzip an apps' tarball onto a USB and it'll include everything you need in there. [01:44] Does anyone know how Ubuntu ships Yaru pre-enabled? I've been trying to figure it out to no avail === genii is now known as genii-meeting [02:03] VeryGeneric: you can use the seeded-in-ubuntu tool to figure out what's kinda default.. [02:03] $ seeded-in-ubuntu -b yaru-theme-gnome-shell [02:03] yaru-theme-gnome-shell is seeded in: [02:03] ubuntu: daily-canary, daily-live, daily-preinstalled === JanC is now known as Guest7251 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [02:33] I have a public domain name on godaddy (rnxlive.com) that I would like to setup on Ubuntu, can anyone help me? [02:35] nginx? apache? [02:35] webchat18 [02:35] apache [02:35] webchat18: I'm headed out.. so just a link to hopefully helpful docs :) https://ubuntu.com/server/docs [02:36] perfect thanks! [02:41] fortunately soemeone guessed right in that you're talking http/https (apparently) [02:41] Does anyone have any experience with Ubuntu Advantage subscription portal? [02:41] under "UA Infra - Essential (Virtual)" it says 11 Machines [02:41] does that mean I can attach up to 11 VMs to my subscription? [02:41] Canonical commercial support does [02:42] or that i already have attached 11 machines to my subscription? [02:43] I tried calling support but their phone quality was really bad and was cutting out every second word. I eventually got disconnected by the operator [02:45] webchat18 `cat /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl.conf` [02:47] so on my snap package, it shows the home directory as /home/335/, any ideas? [02:47] or rather... 335 is the directory name [02:48] actually, it's /home/rdr/snap/fluffychat/335/ [02:48] bigbianarch https://pastebin.com/s25BsFRW [02:48] so maybe a fluffychat issue [02:49] rdr: snap support, contact the maintainer; contact: christian-pauly@posteo.de === M4he is now known as mahe [03:43] turns out "11 Machines" means that If you have never run "ua attach" command before, all 11 should be available. [03:44] thank you all for the help [03:50] Anyone know how to start Wayland-0 in one screen and not all three only want one screen to have wayland-0 http://paste.opensuse.org/18154248 - this is a w11 host runing wsl2 and ubuntu 20.04 stock from microsoft store (no x11 anything) no rdp anything https://dpaste.org/UqOm === genii-meeting is now known as genii-core === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy [04:27] donofrio: please stop asking for help with WSL here. You've been told this before. It's not something we can support. Nor is desktop officially supported on WSL [04:31] leftyfb, I'm not doing anything that is not stock, really this time my wayland-0 question is me trying to change a stock outcome to use only one screen and not all three...I can live with all three but really would like just one (and by stock I mean install w11, add ubuntu from ms-store and run it [04:32] uh, desktop on WSL is not stock. WSL uses a cloud image, Microsoft kernel and no display server [04:33] Desktop is not supported on WSL and definitely not here. That’s not to say you can’t get it to work, but that is not a supported feature [04:34] join #windows-wsl for support [04:45] ummmm, do any of you uber-nerds know how to install the unity editor on ubuntu (21.10) [04:46] the actual unity website is not forthcoming. it alludes to some preview version for ubuntu being available [04:47] #apt install unity [04:47] uhhhhhh [04:47] what version will it be tho? [04:48] !package unity [04:48] Gallomimia: that would be a Unity support issue [04:48] * Gallomimia rummages around in the channel list [04:48] The “unity” package in Ubuntu has nothing to do with the Unity game development company [04:48] well that is good to know at least thanks [04:49] Also, maybe best not to start your request for help by calling people names [04:49] what? uber-nerd is the utmost of praise [04:50] such people are the exact reason i come here [04:58] lol [05:39] uwubuntu [05:39] i need help [05:40] i cant find my hexchat app [05:40] Hi, my second monitor is not getting any video output. https://pastebin.com/psiQ55Hb [05:42] vga shiiiii [05:50] origintopleft: "i cant find my hexchat app" >> what shows ' sudo find / -name hexchat ' ? === yippeeka1 is now known as goteam [06:22] Has anyone ever experenced an issue with ubuntu where when you close the lid on a laptop then the computer fails to respond even holding the power button down for 5 seconds doesn't work [06:23] Like you need to open up the laptop and unplug the battery for it to work again? [06:23] ? [06:30] holding the power button should be a hardware feature [06:31] Ravage:do you mean it not turning on/off after holding the power button indicates a hardware fqailure? [06:32] boot a live system fron USB and test it [06:32] or try it from your BIOS [06:33] I'm wanting to make sure I understand the error reporting process.. do you have to sign in to ubuntu one on the website to report a crash report? (I'm talking about when the system prompts you with a system problem - the operating system - and you click to send the error report - do you end up having to sign in to ubuntu one before the report is submitted?) [06:33] Thanks for the tips I'll try that tomorow going to bed right now [06:33] Thanks for the help [06:33] good night [06:35] blahboybaz: afaik not, only if you want to manually report bugs on launchpad [06:38] Maik: After clicking to report the crash and then being promted for my password (by the o/s) then a tab opened in my browser to the ubuntu one page - of course the first thing it presented me with is trying to make me agree to cookies (uggg) [06:38] I don't know why it took me to the website === yippeeka1 is now known as goteam === yippeeka1 is now known as goteam === yippeeka1 is now known as goteam [08:13] Hello, I am on Lubuntu and am suddenly having an issue where my system will not activate the screensaver, and when I activate it manually the XScreenSaver dialog appears on its own after a while, indicating that some mouse or keyboard input is being registered automatically. I have tried unplugging my mouse and disabling my laptop's touchpad with [08:13] xinput but this continues to happen. How can I track what this input might be? [08:21] hai i cannot update ubuntu 16 to 18 can some help me please? [08:26] dave, how do you try to update? [08:27] hi [08:28] I'd like to set wallpaper for grub [08:28] dave: probably because 16.04 is EOL [08:28] any recommendations for something easy that can do this for me? [08:28] how to make a grub-floppy for i386-pc on ubuntu [08:28] i upgraded from 16.04 to 20.04 a few days ago [08:28] with no problems [08:28] maik yes [08:29] what is "do-release-upgrade" telling you ? [08:29] lalelu how u did that ? [08:29] i got this when trying to update https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FmWCFCgqHY/plain/ [08:29] re-enabled the update manager and let it run 2 times [08:30] lalelu https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rzy8GtvTJD/plain/ [08:30] lalelu im using headless ubuntu [08:31] sorry i can't open that page [08:31] dave: type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [08:31] lalelu: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rzy8GtvTJD [08:32] eric it same error .. [08:33] dave: dist-upgrade or upgrade? [08:33] yes dist-upgrade [08:35] dist-upgrade show me this log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/55DJBH7GCY/ [08:36] dave: hmm try 'apt-mark showhold' [08:37] eric: it return nothing [08:38] dave: try 'apt-cache policy php-soap' [08:38] !info php-soap bionic [08:38] 'bionic' is not a valid release [08:39] eric : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dhcKbvq7cN/ [08:40] what should i do ? [08:40] it's "update" first then "upgrade" [08:41] lalelu : it not working ,, i guessing eric found the real problem [08:42] dave: what happens when you try 'sudo apt-get install php-soap' ? [08:43] eric : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q4sJDnng45/ [08:43] dave: do you need those stuff? it's coming from a ppa, if you can delete the ppa it's better [08:44] i dont need the php7.3 but i need php7.2 to make the web running [08:44] dave: you want to upgrade to 20.04 right? [08:44] eric: how to delete ? [08:44] you're on 16.04 right now correct [08:45] dave: use this tool https://github.com/ericj112/ppa-tool [08:45] eric : Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-210-generic x86_64) [08:45] i need to update ubuntu 18 [08:46] ok [08:46] sounds good === diskin_ is now known as diskin [08:48] eric: thanks i will remove the ppa then let see what happen next [08:49] dave: np, ok [09:01] hi all! im going nuts. can someone help me figue out why "kdeconnectd" isnt starting anymore ? [09:03] actually that might not be the problem i dont use networking in that sense [09:12] I tried using the x event viewer and it does not show any keyboard events, but some keyboard or mouse event is still being triggered even when the mouse is unplugged and the touchpad is disabled [10:11] Any good chats/communities for linux enterprise type questions? [10:15] Alslinet: there's a #linux channel on this network if you like === denningsrogue3 is now known as denningsrogue [10:55] Anyone know how to start Wayland-0 in one screen and not all three only want one screen to have wayland-0 http://paste.opensuse.org/18154248 - this is a w11 host runing wsl2 and ubuntu 20.04 stock from microsoft store (no x11 anything) no rdp anything https://dpaste.org/UqOm [11:16] Hi! How do I change theme for Qt based application? [11:17] I want to change an application to use dark theme [11:18] how to reset the system except for the packages so far installed? [11:18] I mean, making the system like I installed it fresh and then installed those packages on it [11:21] duuude: reinstall is the only option i guess if you want to start from scratch [11:21] duuude: maybe save a package-list in .txt reinstall / (i hope you have a separate /home partition) and apply the contents of the packages.txt file, example in bash shell apt-get install $(cat packages.txt) [11:24] Alslinet: or you could just ask here or on #ubuntu-server if you have questions specific to ubuntu [11:40] duuude: use dpkg --set-selections/--get-selections to create a list and reinstall from that list [11:55] duuude: also, most of the config you might have changed will be in your homedir [13:03] 'morning all [13:03] morning [13:06] i_am_beets: good morning. How can we help you today? [13:06] hai master [13:07] im newibie [13:07] aowkak [13:07] gabisa bahasa inggris [13:07] im not speak einglish [13:07] which country are you from bliterdz [13:08] EriC^^_: looks like either Malaysia or Indonesia. [13:09] I think "bahasa" means language in those two languages. [13:09] i see, thanks [13:10] IP shows Indonesia [13:11] EriC^^ sorry should have used ubottu's knowledge base. i came too late i guess [13:12] hehe no worries [13:27] hi, can someone help me? i use nextcloud on my server, and this is error i have in error log (Image size of 6000x8000 would exceed allowed memory limit of 128) but memory limit i have set to 1G, any idea? :/ [13:28] I'm not too familiar with nextcloud, but have you restarted the app since changing your memory limits? It might need to reload the config [13:37] there is #nextcloud [13:45] @i_am_beets there can i only restart apache service [13:49] My Ubuntu 16 04 tried to activate ESM, but there was an error [13:50] dongasai@dongasai-desktop:~$ sudo ua attach ***** [13:50] Invalid token. See https://ubuntu.com/advantage [13:56] What's glibc's latest package for Ubuntu 20.04? [13:56] And what's it's name? [13:58] Good Morning everyone -- I got my new Ubuntu box up and running. I Installed tightvnc server on the ubuntu box, and when I try to connect to it -- I get the generic x server grey screen -- I have googled around and tried several different Xstartup files -- none seem to change anything -- this computer is on the same network and specifically on the same switch (a 1 gig switch) as the windows compt [13:58] !info libc6 focal [13:58] libc6 (2.31-0ubuntu9.2, focal): GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Built by glibc. Size 2,652 kB / 13,246 kB [13:58] er that iwll be accessing it -- so I dont mind serving gnome [13:59] im not sure how to resolve the issue of the grey screen [13:59] brjl: see what ubottu said, you can check such on https://packages.ubuntu.com [14:00] dongsai: sorry, we can't support ESM here, you'll need to talk to Canonical on that [14:00] Hi, I were under impression before, that the only way to set btrfs compression on dataset is to set chattr +C on it. Now I am unsure if actually +c is needed to be set with btrfs commands.. For some reason it refuses to set chattr +C on newly created btrfs dataset.. [14:00] dongsai: specifically, we only support the ubuntu releases listed in the /topic [14:02] taholmes160: you haven't told us which ubuntu version you're using. note that the latest one defaults to xwayland / wayland, which is probably not compatible to the tightvnc server [14:03] OOPS -- im sorry -- hang on lemme make sure [14:03] is it possible to disable snap auto update? [14:03] Tomreyn -- Im using 21.10 [14:04] ice9 I don't think so. it's a "feature": https://snapcraft.io/docs/keeping-snaps-up-to-date also check https://askubuntu.com/questions/930593/how-to-disable-autorefresh-in-snap [14:04] taholmes160: this defaults to wayland. you can change it in gdm's configuration file for gdm, and on the gdm session chooser for the actual desktop session [14:04] ice9: generally you don't want to disable it, unless you're on a data plan [14:05] taholmes160: gdm being the graphical login manager [14:05] KBar, it's annoying because for example while you are working on firefox, it terminates to install the update without your consent [14:05] @tomreyn -- im afraid you just went over my head -- im sorry [14:06] ice9: snaps weren't developed for desktop users specifically, there are servers as well [14:06] s/specifically/only [14:07] ice9: no you cannot completely disable. I believe there is a feature for setting when updates can happen though. Here's information: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/disabling-automatic-refresh-for-snap-from-store/707 [14:07] ice9: try the steps described in that question on askubuntu and ^ that link [14:08] ice9: snaps were originally developed as part of the Ubuntu phone (press F). Since then they've become the "core" of Ubuntu Core, and have wide usage on desktop and server. for instance, in clouds, many cloud agents are delivered as snaps [14:09] jchittum: interesting and that actually makes sense. do you happen to have a link for your claims, for the lack of a better word, sorry? [14:10] for this "snaps were originally developed as part of the Ubuntu phone (press F)" part specifically [14:12] after sudo apt install kde-plasma-desktop, how to I switch back to gnome desktop look? [14:12] I think it changed my window manager (appearance) at leat [14:12] can someone tell me how to address a specific person in here -- I cant remember [14:13] neure: on the login screen there should be a gear icon (probably something else on KDE). click on it and select GNOME Session or something similar [14:14] KBar, I thought so but there is no such gear icon [14:14] This is recently installed 20.04 [14:14] taholmes160: as in DM them? [14:14] How can I check which desktop I can currently running? [14:15] neure: you probably need to "Switch User" first [14:15] KBar: does answer 2 on this suffice? https://askubuntu.com/questions/963404/what-do-snap-snapd-and-snappy-refer-to [14:15] neure: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP [14:16] I can try to dig through more Ubuntu Phone history, but it predates my time at Canonical. [14:16] That says ubuntu:GNOME [14:16] so I am already in gnome desktop [14:16] the issue is that simply installing kde-plasma-desktop it changed how my gnome desktop looks [14:17] so my question is, how do I restore gnome desktop to look like it did? [14:17] neure: well, that's how it works [14:17] neure: you can't. Reinstall [14:17] what if I uninstall kde-plasma-desk ? [14:17] neure: check this thread on UbuntuForums: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2415676 [14:17] taholmes160 : if you use their nick in a message, most people will get an alert. For DM you can do `/msg neure: that's just a virtual/meta package. It's empty. [14:18] neure: even if you delete all 200 packages one by one, their config files will still be left [14:18] Is there no remove-also-config files? [14:18] neure: even `dpkg-reconfigure` won't help [14:19] huh, that kind of sucks [14:19] what the config files are in question? [14:19] neure there is `apt purge` but you may completely break your system [14:19] neure: check that thread. it explains everything [14:19] 20 minute read max [14:19] and TLDR? [14:19] neure: YOU CANT [14:19] undo [14:20] I can but sounds like the fix is reinstall? [14:20] Is there such thing as reinstall on top of current system? [14:20] this is like reborn, but yes, fresh install will do [14:20] are the config files system files or user files? [14:20] neure: sure. but thats not reinstall anymore [14:20] neure: just back them up and reinstall afresh [14:21] installation takes 5 minutes [14:21] I have separate home partition [14:21] neure: well that eases the process [14:21] by a lot [14:22] I installed kde-plasma-desktop because with it (system-settings) I can change the color theme of Qt applications [14:22] you will select other partitions to remove and leave /home untouched. 1) https://askubuntu.com/questions/142695/what-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-having-a-separate-home-partition 2) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving [14:22] now I would like to know how to do that without installing kde-plasma-desktop [14:23] now i dont use KDE nor Qt apps. But there should be something similar to gtk.css files [14:23] neure: or maybe use snaps? [14:23] What do you suggest? [14:24] The application in question is Beyond Compare [14:24] neure: is it in the ubuntu repositories? [14:25] No it is just a .deb [14:25] From https://www.scootersoftware.com/download.php [14:27] Can I reinstall from my nvme drive or do I need to use USB stick for that? [14:27] Or if I maybe more often reinstall, can I even make installer partition? [14:27] neure: i dont have a solution for your problem as I've never used KDE or Qt. [14:27] neure: try https://askubuntu.com/questions/910012/how-can-i-get-qt5-applications-to-use-the-gtk-theme-in-ubuntu-17-04 [14:28] neure: "my nvme drive" as in the one that has the current Ubuntu installation? [14:29] KBar, yeah - I have some spare space on it [14:29] Kbar -- no as like you addressed me in that message [14:29] taholmes160: start typing in someone's nick and press Tab for autocompletion [14:30] like in bash [14:30] KBar: cool -- thats got it [14:30] thanks [14:31] neure: not sure. if you know how to create a separate partition and filesystem for the iso image, you probably can. never bothered doing that. refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux as a start [14:31] taholmes160: no problem === _miruoy is now known as miruoy [14:36] Hi Folks, I am on Ubuntu 21.10 - I have vnc server (tightvnc) installed on the ubuntu box, when I try to vnc in, I get a grey screen -- can you point me to how to fix? Someone said that I should change something in the GDM Chooser -- I cant seem to find how to start that -- can someone help -- [14:36] its been 10+ years since I have used Linux so I'm kinda rusty [14:38] jchittum: awesome. thanks for the link. diving into yet another rabbit's hole… [14:42] neure: just to keep you informed. it doesn't look like there is an analog of gtk.css files on Qt. at least i couldn't find anything that would help you in this particular situation [14:43] taholmes160: give this a try [14:43] https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/sharing-desktop.html [14:44] (undo the tightvnc configurations beforehand) [14:45] Cool [14:45] thanks [14:57] Anyone know of a script or other solution to get the user home directory from the Active Directory user object and map their home drive automatically? [15:04] tomreyn: just uninstall tightvnc? [15:08] also, what client will I use on my windows computer? Remote Desktop? [15:25] s.o.s. pls halp [15:25] upgraded server to ubuntu 20 [15:25] site is down... [15:26] latest cause i've been able to find: ping -n 8.8.8.8 says "ping: connect: Network is unreachable" [15:27] `ip a` https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/IQArRuZE/ip_a.png [15:27] what can i try next? [15:30] regedit: look at the network config [15:33] ok lemme try looking up how to do that.. [15:34] coming back to ask a question. Xubuntu 20.04, pulseaudio 13.99.1 lets say i have my headphone jacked into my laptop. now i want sound output to go to my laptop speakers, but i dont want to unplug my headphones. how do i do that on a software level? pavucontrol lets me select speakers as the output port althought it's status is (Unavailable) and no sound comes out. `pacmd set-sink-port 0 analog-output-speaker` does the same and yields the [15:34] same result [15:34] regedit: why did you do an in-place upgrade to a public-facing critical server if you don't know the basics like how to check the network config? [15:35] leftyfb: i've done it before... was hoping for the best... 😬 i regret everythingggg...... 😭 [15:35] regedit: hope is not a great tool when you dont possess the necessary knowledge [15:36] now i know.. [15:40] 'ip route' shows only 1 output line: 10.10.0.0/16 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 10.10.0.5 [15:40] traceroute6: www.google.com: Temporary failure in name resolution [15:42] Ive go the ubuntu screen sharing set up and its working except when I type on the remote computer (which is using tightvnc) it wants to put everything in caps [15:42] regedit: that is not your network config [15:43] regedit: do you have a sysadmin for this critical server of yours? You should give them a call [15:43] leftyfb: if there's a command to output what you're asking - can you kindly please share 🙏 [15:44] regedit: what version of ubuntu did you upgrade from? What version of ubuntu did you upgrade do? How exactly did you perform the upgrade? [15:45] 18 (was it 18.04 i think?) to 20 (20.04?) with do-release-upgrade [15:45] regedit: is there a desktop GUI installed on it? [15:46] no.. i just have VPS provider console access [15:46] digitalocean in this case [15:46] ah VPS, even better :/ [15:46] regedit: you should really call your provider to help you get it back online [15:46] maybe [15:49] ticket submitted [15:53] I'm trying to use reprepro to mirror the docker-ce repos for focal and bionic, but when I attempt to `reprepro -V update` I get a checksum error for the containerd.io package, because the package has the same filename in both focal and bionic repos. [15:54] Is it possible to configure reprepro to rename package files as they are downloaded to the pool? [16:00] `sudo lshw -class network` https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/rpPHGbJT/lshw-network.png [16:00] g3poandlsl: maybe there is an option like --to-stdout? [16:02] `sudo ethtool eth0` https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/uXDvudjQ/ethtool-eth0.png [16:06] KBar, thanks for the suggestion. I don't see an option like that in the man pages, especially as it pertains to updates in reprepro [16:09] leftyfb: `ifconfig` maybe? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jjaKhuCw/ifconfig.png [16:10] g3poandlsl: sorry im not familiar with such things. i just know that wget has that option which allows you to specify the name with -O and you can do all sorts of things concurrently. and i was factually wrong, its not --to-stdout but --output-document=file [16:12] `cat /etc/network/interfaces` https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2J59UXpa/%2Fetc%2Fnetwork%2Finterfaces.png [16:14] regedit, what's the output of: uname -a [16:14] Or smaller: uname -r [16:14] `/etc/network/interfaces.d/50-cloud-init.cfg` https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/yibdzGkX/%2Fetc%2Fnetwork%2Finterfaces.d%2F50-cloud-init.cfg.png [16:14] Hello [16:15] alkisg: 5.4.0-97-generic [16:16] I would like to ask something. I have old 2 TB hdd and it start show bad sectors, so I think to get a new one, but I'm stuck in choice to get a SSD or HDD, one friend told me to get both and use the SSD for the OS and the HDD for backup, but to move the VAR/LOG to the HDD - is that right? [16:17] Rumen: If you're seeing bad sectors increasing, definitely get the new hardware soon. [16:17] Should I move the /home to the HDD as well? [16:18] Guys where can I find grub stage* files? [16:18] Rumen: SSD will usually offer a significantly better performance, particularly on start-up and starting applications, or loading files from disc. [16:19] Rumen: Most of the advice for moving /var/log is because it gets lots of continuous writes, which can "wear out" an SSD. This advice is based on early designs for SSSs, which are now pretty close to being as durable as spinning discs. [16:20] when I sign in Ubuntu tells me that a restart is required, if indeed there has been an upgrade that needs it. What file is the login process using to determine that this restart is required? I'd like to check for it myself [16:20] Rumen: You are likely to out-grow an SSD before it wears out. [16:20] Yes, but if I keep the log and cache on the SSD will read and writte non stop and will die pretty quickly, right? [16:20] Rumen: No. [16:21] Rumen: Almost all laptops are pure SSD these days, and they have comparable life expectancies. [16:21] So no need to move the log and cache to HDD? [16:21] Just backup from time to time as do today? [16:21] regular backup I mean [16:22] jpmh: Usually the suggestion to restart is due to an updated kernel; compare dpkg -l kernel* with uname -a [16:22] Aha OK got it, thanks a lot! [16:23] jpmh: if there is a kernel listed in the dpkg output that is newer than the running kernel listed by uname, rebooting will load the newer one. [16:25] regedit, what's the output of: uname -r [16:25] jhutchins: yes - I know when it is required. So, are you saying there is some command that I can provide to dpkg that will tell me? And, more to the point, is that what the login process does, or is there some file that was set by the upgrade that it looks at [16:25] ? [16:27] alkisg: 5.4.0-97-generic [16:29] is alkisg seeing my messages? i replied twice so far, not sure if he copy [16:33] jpmh: only kernel updates require a reboot which you should do no matter what, unless you have Livepatch set up, in which case no reboot is required. [16:34] jpmh: `dpkg` is concerned about Debian packages. It doesn't tell you anything about kernel and what it wants to do. [16:35] How do I figure out what /dev/nvme1n1p3 is called in grub? [16:35] KBar - so - I return to my original question. My systems do an unattended upgrade - then when I log in I get told that I need to re-boot. I would like to be able to have a daemon or probably crontab task check for that condition and alert me that a re-boot is required. So, what do I need to look at to know this? [16:35] neure: what do you mean by "in GRUB"? The GRUB meny entry, command-line, /etc/default/grub, or something else? [16:36] In /etc/grub.d/40_custom [16:36] set root='hd0,6' # this mean /dev/sda6 [16:37] I'll see if I can use UUID [16:40] jpmh: you can `wmctrl -lpG`, find the PID of that window and then `ps -ef --pid PID` [16:43] tho im not sure if wmctrl works in wayland [16:43] leftyfb: any chance any of the above screenshots are the network config? [16:44] regedit: did you call a professional? [16:45] KBar: where can i find one, profficient with Ubuntu and DigitalOcean [16:45] regedit: didn't you say you submitted a ticket? [16:45] i did [16:46] regedit: leave the system alone and let them do their job. you're probably gonna butcher the system further [16:46] not doing anything ATM [16:46] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Sf5mUV5l/ticket.png [16:46] you're issuing commands that you (i assume) have no clue about [16:47] this "not doing anything ATM" can turn to something catastrophic in the blink of an eye [16:47] i think i'm doing "read only" commands [16:48] regedit: you also thought and hoped you could do it on your own… [16:48] someone else is suggesting i try this... but now i'm scared to https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/skfo0zP9/suggestion.png [16:49] regedit: i don't understand anything about networking and such so i wont touch it. if you are scared and clueless, do like me [16:52] wonderful... digitalocean support says dont upgrade in place - migrate to new droplet... 🤦‍♂️ === yippeeka1 is now known as AintNoFoolin [16:55] regedit: That's the industry standard for reliable operations. Build, test, migrate. [16:56] regedit: Among other things, this gives the option to fall back to the older version if there's a problem. [16:59] !lts [16:59] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Focal (Focal Fossa 20.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. === dubadub is now known as YourNick === YourNick is now known as dubadub [17:13] well the above `ifconfig` and `ip route add` suggested commands seem to have worked... for now, still much more to figure out (/etc/netplan etc..) but at least the site is back online for now.. [17:21] hi :) I'm trying to prepare auto-install recipes for computers that I want to roll out in April. would it make sense to try with jammy already, or should I stick to focal? [17:22] I think it would make sense [17:22] Sven_vB: [17:25] lotuspsychje: hello, it's me again. After a bios update (from http://ix.io/3O2j) I get a new dmesg (http://ix.io/3OEC) that has the same ACPI Error you pointed out before. [17:26] If you or anyone else can help scan the files to suggest new tactics, I'd greatly appreciate it. But for now, I'd best head to bed. :) [17:27] Sven_vB: Depends on what the computers will be doing. Do they need to surf the bleeding edge and find the new bugs and problems in the software, or do they need to sit quietly and do real work? [17:27] For a recap of the problem, my Ubuntu 20.04 system is having problems running blender 3.0.1 from snap and it seems that there are some issues getting it to recognise my combo AMD/Intel graphics card. [17:27] Sven_vB: Pre-release is where the bugs are worked on, so it's expected to be broken occasionally. [17:27] I'll be available to answer more questions in a few hours, I suppose. :) [17:28] jhutchins, I'm torn between the risk of new bugs, and the possibility that some really annoying focal bugs might be fixed. [17:33] I guess I'll try jammy. if it's too bad I can still go back. [17:33] thanks matsaman and jhutchins :) [17:40] any opinions on par2deep vs rsbep-backup? [17:40] Im working on a ubuntu 21.10 station -- i need to check out this file from github -- https://github.com/mottosso/docker-cgwire.git can someone please point me the right direction [17:41] taholmes160, that's a repo. which file from the repo do you need? [17:41] The whole thing [17:41] taholmes160, oh I see, you want to run it in Docker probably [17:41] correct [17:41] i need to download the container files [17:42] taholmes160, are you interested in the version control aspects or do you just want the latest version? [17:42] just want the latest version [17:43] taholmes160, the latest version is always available for download at https://github.com/mottosso/docker-cgwire/archive/refs/heads/master.zip . from there it's the usual Docker stuff. [17:43] ok, lemme try -- thanks [17:49] hi all. I found this script online I pasted it to nano made executable fired it up and it hangs. Nothing happens it runs but nothing happens... Could anyone take a look? http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/scripts/q18 [17:49] piotr, does it react do Ctrl-d? [17:50] Sven_vB, nope [17:51] also the coding style in that script is not a good guide. some of the stuff in there is not dangerous just in this case, but can become dangerous if modified. [17:51]