[00:40]  * echo echos
[01:11] <luckiswithme> not really ubuntu question but, do I use "an" infront of Ubuntu. for example. how can I setup a or an Ubuntu server?
[01:11] <zer0fun> How do I make a partition auto mount without the command line
[01:11] <zer0fun> Ubuntu 20.04 fresh install.
[01:12] <luckiswithme> if it's an internal partition most likely it is auto mounted
[01:13] <tomreyn> i *think* gparted has an option for adding partitions to fstab
[01:13] <luckiswithme> if it's external i don't know about any GUI way of doing so
[01:14] <zer0fun> Ok so I thought so.  But I have symlinked my Documents to the mounted partition.  And the links only work after I have opened the partition in the file manager
[01:15] <zer0fun> Once I just look at the partition it works until reboot.
[01:15] <zer0fun> tomreyn thanks I’ll look
[01:16] <XV8> How would I find which package manages the `ping` executable under /usr/bin/ping ?
[01:18] <tomreyn> XV8: dpkg -S /usr/bin/ping
[01:19] <XV8> hmm, I can't seem to get that to work
[01:19] <XV8> "dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/bin/ping"
[01:19] <XV8> But I do `which ping` and that is the full path
[01:20] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release are you running there?
[01:20] <tomreyn> lsb_release -ds
[01:21] <XV8> Ubuntu 21.10
[01:22] <tomreyn> what does    type /usr/bin/ping   report
[01:23] <XV8> https://github.com/iputils/iputils/commit/79d713eab6181e219bf932b404706f6f59ff2539
[01:23] <XV8> whoops, wrong paste
[01:23] <Bashing-om> xv8 correct ^^ to be ' dpkg -S /bin/ping ' >> sysop@2004x-c:~: " iputils-ping: /bin/ping ".
[01:24] <tomreyn> but /usr/bin/ping does exist on my ubuntu 21.10 as well, and dpkg -S does not know about it either
[01:24] <tomreyn> so chances are it is placed there by a post-install script
[01:25] <XV8> Bashing-om, interesting, thanks. That's what I needed. Wanted to verify if that package build includes the fix in the commit in the above link
[01:26] <XV8> but unfortunately it looks like a build that is older than the fix
[01:26] <XV8> ping from iputils 20210202
[01:29] <Bashing-om> XV8: Changlelogs: focal: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/i/inetutils/inetutils_1.9.4-11ubuntu0.1/changelog .
[01:33] <tomreyn> inetutils < iputils though
[01:33] <tomreyn> i guess XV8 may need to explicitly run "ping6" for now
[01:34] <circuitbone> V6.06! https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/f5dAQKQN/1644197636.JPG
[01:35] <XV8> tomreyn, I remember those! My first one was 8.04 when you could request the installation CDs for free.
[01:35] <XV8> whoops, I mean circuitbone *
[01:35] <tomreyn> circuitbone: that's cute, but more suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:36] <circuitbone> oops
[01:36] <circuitbone> got carried away there
[01:37] <XV8> tomreyn, I have ipv6 disabled in the kernel
[01:37] <XV8> root@static-rain:~# cat /proc/cmdline
[01:37] <XV8> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.13.0-28-generic root=/dev/mapper/vgubuntu-root ro ipv6.disable=1 cgroup_enable=memory swapaccount=1 quiet splash ipv6.disable=1 vt.handoff=7
[01:38] <tomreyn> :-(
[01:38] <pycurious> A stop job is running for advanced key value store - everytime i reboot - any ideas on how to fix this? I do have enough free disk space
[01:39] <tomreyn> XV8: apparently it's so important to you to stay away from current ip addressing that you even put it twice.
[01:39] <XV8> hah, I didn't even notice that tomreyn
[01:40] <tomreyn> pycurious: find out what the "advanced key value store" service is, and fix its systemd service unit
[01:40] <tomreyn> (it's probably redis)
[01:41] <XV8> oh, I see what happened. One variable is for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX and the other is for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[01:41] <pycurious> tomreyn: yes, i do run redis
[01:42] <tomreyn> that's ok with me
[01:52] <pycurious> tomreyn: thanks. Will try to shutdown redis.
[01:53] <pycurious> My ubuntu box will boot, but will show the logo for "AORUS" and not show anything else on the monitor. I can ssh into it. Any ideas on how to solve / debug this?
[01:53] <pycurious> I can get into the bios - but nothing else
[02:14] <XV8> pycurious, what have you tried so far
[02:16] <pycurious> XV8 - a new bios, can ssh into the machine. When I shutdown, I can see Ubuntu written below the bios logo. If I press escape, I see the text that usually renders while shutting down
[02:16] <pycurious> Maybe the machine is trying to output a resolution that the display can't handle - so it gets stuck at the bios logo - not sure - how to find out and fix it
[02:17] <pycurious> ctrl+alt+f1 gives me a text output on the screen :)
[02:36] <leftyfb> pycurious:  is this a server or desktop?
[02:38] <pycurious> leftyfb: desktop where the screen isnt working well
[02:40] <leftyfb> pycurious: isn't working well or is booting to the console text?
[02:42] <pycurious> it boots into the bios splash screen
[02:42] <pycurious> when i press ctlr+alt+2 - it gives me the text screen where i can login. I tried nvidia-xconfig - no use. I did X -configure - that errored out : "Number of screens dont match the number of devices detected"
[02:45] <pycurious> startx leads to a black screen
[02:45] <AyushA> are your packages upgraded?
[02:46] <pycurious> yes
[03:01] <gry> pycurious, hello, how many screens have you got?
[03:12] <leftyfb> pycurious: hit alt+F7
[03:25] <pycurious> gry: just 1
[03:25] <pycurious> leftyfb: alt+f7 shows /dev/nvme0….blocks
[03:25] <leftyfb> pycurious: try going through 1 - 7
[03:26] <pycurious> leftyfb: they are all text based login screens
[03:26] <leftyfb> pycurious: if there's still nothing, then it's more than likely a GPU drivers issue. You have yet to explain what version of ubuntu you are running or what changed since the last time it was working
[03:28] <pycurious> leftyfb: last time it was working was a year ago - when my 2080ti card broke its hdmi port. I just got a 3090 card - and i think the xorg.conf is not correct. I tried nvidia-xconfig - and it doesnt seem to generate an xconfig from scratch (it still shows 2080ti in there)
[03:28] <leftyfb> pycurious: what version of ubuntu?
[03:29] <leftyfb> pycurious: you should probably backup whatever xorg config you have, remove it from the active configuration and reinstall the proper drivers for your video card
[03:31] <pycurious> leftyfb: The drivers are working well, I use cuda on top of that - and use the gpu without any issues.
[03:33] <leftyfb> pycurious: ok, so you don't need any help then. Good luck
[04:30] <gry> pycurious, what does a gpu have to do with it? Is it the same part that processes input/output to the monitor?
[04:33] <enigma9o7[m]> are you asking what a GPU is?  or what is the actual question?
[04:43] <gry> enigma9o7[m], yes, that's what I am asking. The person whom I wanted to help has quit, though, so it's probably uninteresting for now.
[04:44] <enigma9o7[m]> Ok then won't answer if no interest.  If you ever interested in the future tho, a simple web search could answer that for you.
[05:42] <oem> hello
[05:43] <yukiup> hi
[05:44] <ElPresidente> good evening
[06:58] <devansh> How to use rtl wifi cards on ubuntu??
[06:59] <webchat9> How to use rtl wifi cards on ubuntu??
[06:59] <gry> devansh, visit http://h-node.org at the top of the page click 'Search' pastebin "lspci -vmmnn" into the text box at the bottom of the page. on the next page click the name of your wifi card. it will tell you package name.
[07:03] <webchat9> what to do after getting the package?
[07:05] <devansh> How to use rtl wifi cards on ubuntu?? Is there any kernel which supports these cards or any .deb driver?
[07:10] <enigma9o7[m]> I bet you had difficulty with: onthe top of the page click search pastebin lspci -vmnnn into thetext bar at the bottom of the page.
[07:11] <enigma9o7[m]> its like tricky cuz it starts with top oft he page, and ends with bottom of the page, and some gibberish inbetween and clicking and pasting, its totally confusing
[07:37] <biapy> hi, i've got a problem with snap. When launching a snap app, i've got this error: "/user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-4.scope is not a snap cgroup". The cgroup exists, systemd --user is launched for my user, but snap seems unable to connect to it. I don't know what triggered this behaviour as snap was working previously.
[07:51]  * enyc meows
[08:18]  * biapy throws a catnip toy to enyc
[08:19] <enyc> =)
[08:50] <jsbach> hi! bit confused here: What is the difference between a "nvidia-driver-470" and a "nvidia-driver-470-server" ?
[08:52] <Ravage> the server driver does not include i386 libs required to run steam for example
[08:52] <jsbach> Ravage, thanks for the answer. anything else?
[08:54] <Ravage> if you want all details compare "apt-file list nvidia-driver-470-server" and "apt-file list nvidia-driver-470"
[08:54]  * enyc meows jsbach Ravage 
[08:54] <enyc> jsbach: hrrm package file list might help
[08:55] <Ravage> the package does not seem to include the actual files
[08:55] <enyc> Ravage: it may have depnedencies..
[08:55] <enyc> Ravage: which ubunut release?
[08:55] <Ravage> i think the server package also depends on some cloud stuff for azure, amazon and so on
[08:56] <Ravage> i guess if you have a server.. use the server package
[08:56] <enyc> Ravage: which ubuntu release? -- focal20.04  ... impish ... etc..?
[08:56] <Ravage> if not just use the regualr one
[08:56] <enyc> jsbach: which ubuntu release you using?
[08:56] <Ravage> i run focal. but im sure the packages are identical
[08:57] <Ravage> i run nvidia-driver-495 on my desktop
[09:01] <jsbach> enyc, Ubuntu 20.04  5.13.0-28-generic #31~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
[09:02] <enyc> jsbach: hrrrm  interesting HWE kernel I guess
[09:02] <enyc> jsbach: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/nvidia-driver-470
[09:02] <enyc> jsbach: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/nvidia-driver-470-server
[09:02] <enyc> jsbach: NB: if you get internal-error , f5/refresh
[09:03] <enyc> you can see the different package dependencies  and then erusimable different contents
[09:03] <jsbach> Ravage, thanks. am using 470-server at the moment. I have a usb-c type "docking-hub". And the reason why i am asking is to get the best solution for graphics problem i am having
[09:04] <jsbach> is just xrandr having problems, to discover the monitors within plugin & plugout. The drm crashes often. not a good user experience
[09:06] <enyc> jsbach: I ab not nvidia current uusre  but I can say  I've noticed  plugin/unplug  mode setting  issues etc  have more been kernel related than  xorg/mesa/etc  to me
[09:08] <enyc> I imagine linux 5.15 will become the HWE kernel for 20.04 , but maybe only after 22.04 lts released [?]
[09:08] <jsbach> enyc, true, might be! And also the power management is also involved. Bit of everything i guess.
[09:10] <Jeremy31> enyc: 5.15 might be in the 20.04 repos by July
[09:14] <enyc> Jeremy31: sure, do you have a reference for this though?  https://ubuntu.com/kernel/lifecycle   doesn't quite answer it
[09:15] <Jeremy31> enyc: No, but I do know 5.13 was in the repos back in November, which is earlier than I expected
[09:19] <enyc> 5.15 interestingly brings in that ntfs paragon native driver
[11:15] <mncheckm> after realm join in sssd.conf I've tried to append ", sudo" to "services= nss, pam" under "sssd" and adding "sudo_provider = ad" under "[domain/EXAMPLE.COM]" however while previously login worked and sudo didn't, now login doesn't work, i'm not sure about sudo. I've added the resolved %u part (ie. testuser) to the "sudo" group in /etc/groups and restarted. now login just times out with a really long time. in sssd_nss.log I see "SIGTERM: killing
[11:15] <mncheckm> children"
[11:16] <mncheckm> this is focal
[11:50] <popey> I just did a dist-upgrade and the nvidia driver got removed, which is strange. https://pastebin.com/Sw3P22Jj
[12:49] <lotuspsychje_> !info nvidia-driver-470
[12:51] <lotuspsychje_> weird popey
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic impish
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> popey: according to graphics ppa 470 version is 470.103.01 https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[13:30] <BluesKaj> 'morning folks
[14:22] <lotuspsychje_> popey: related? bug #1960237
[14:30] <matt__> Hello. I have two monitors and one is touch. I am looking for documentation on how I can force the second monitor to always be the primary for all users so that the input writes on the correct monitor
[14:32] <matt__> I tried swapping in the DisplayPort inputs but apparently once Ubuntu has its mind made up on which is the first it doesn't want to change. I can change it in Displays but that doesn't change it for all users
[14:38] <biapy> @matt__, not sure about this. For xorg it is a setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf(.d ?) , but for wayland i don't know. Intuitively, i would look on where the monitor settings are stored in the user profile (somewhere in ~/.config) and copy this to the profile skeleton and existing users homes.
[14:41] <matt__> biapy, I see anything for input in the Xorg. I have had to do hacks to run xinput to try and move which monitor it writes on. Currently if I use the stylus on the writable monitor it writes on the non-touch monitor. The machine is for a lab so I don't know all the users as they don't all exist yet
[14:46] <biapy> matt__, hum, instead of switching input , try switching display (output). It's been a while since i've done this, i'm gonna look if i find something in my archives
[14:49] <biapy> matt__, in xorg monitor section:     Option      "Primary" "true"
[14:50] <biapy> found some info that could help you here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/multihead#Combine_screens_into_virtual_display
[14:50] <biapy> matt__, my xorg knowledge is old, and i've not experience in setting up touch screen in this context
[14:51] <biapy> matt__, and this one: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/touchscreen
[14:52] <biapy> matt__, this last one has a section on your problem. it speaks of xinitrc or manual udev rules
[14:56] <matt__> biapy, thanks but all of these look to be user fixes for that profile. Not a system wide config. Maybe I'm missing something. Also, shouldn't this just be in the System -> Displays UI?
[14:57] <biapy> matt__, look at the last link, in the multihead section, it speaks of using udev for a system wide fix.
[14:57] <matt__> that was what I was doing xandr xinput hacks but if any of the info changed across reboots it stopped working and that was just for that user. The login screen or new users was broken
[14:58] <biapy> matt__, and using a system wide xinitrc is possible too
[14:59] <biapy> matt__, i speak of this page: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Calibrating_Touchscreen#Do_it_automatically_via_a_udev_rule
[15:06] <matt__> biapy, Thanks. I tried to make some udev rules. I will see if they work when I can reboot. I appreciate the help
[15:07] <biapy> matt__, you're welcome
[15:08] <ogra> matt__, by default all monitor configuration is done per-user via ~/.config/monitors.xml (which is where the various desktop configuration tools store it, i.e. if you pick "primary monitor" in the gnome or kde settings apps) ... but as biapy said, you can override it via udev or xorg.conf
[15:25] <biapy> ogra, thank you for the info in monitors.xml
[15:59] <pinheadmz> does jq come in ubuntu by default? or json_pp ?
[15:59] <pinheadmz> i have both but cant remembner which i had to install myself
[15:59] <leftyfb> pinheadmz: neither is installed by default
[15:59] <KBar> pinheadmz: releases.ubuntu.com check the manifest file
[15:59] <pinheadmz> thanks
[16:00] <leftyfb> no need to check in this case, neither is installed by default
[16:00] <pinheadmz> okay
[16:00] <pinheadmz> i think my digital ocean installation had json_pp
[16:00] <pinheadmz> or maybe i did install that manually
[16:01] <pinheadmz> OSX at least seems to come with json_pp but not jq
[16:01] <leftyfb> pinheadmz: DO droplets are not standard ubuntu installations
[16:01] <pinheadmz> yeah thats what i figure
[16:01] <KBar> Well, this is not OSX so
[16:02] <enigma9o7[m]> osx even more bloated than ubuntu?
[16:02] <leftyfb> enigma9o7[m]: lets not
[16:54] <jason1234> how to install Roblox game on Ubuntu amd64?
[16:54] <leftyfb> jason1234: contact Roblox for support with that
[16:55] <leftyfb> jason1234: also, first result on google https://www.how2shout.com/linux/how-to-install-roblox-game-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts/
[16:55] <enigma9o7[m]> roblox is not in ubuntu repos, or available for linux.  you'd probably wanna use android or windows version with waydroid or wine.
[16:57] <jason1234> it is written on youtube that roblox works with wine on ubuntu...
[16:58] <lotuspsychje_> !wine
[17:15] <jhutchins> jason1234: You can't believe everything you see on YouTube (I can't believe that actually needs to be said).
[17:18] <bancroft> I believed that if I added a file in /etc/profile.d/ that all users and all shells would have the script executed prior to logging in, but its now what I am observing. Am I missing some sort of enable command to make it work?
[17:18] <bancroft> *not
[17:18] <bancroft> i'm on ubuntu 18
[17:18] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | bancroft
[17:19] <sarnold> bancroft: that'll only happen if the user's shell reads and executes /etc/profile. Not all shells do.
[17:19] <sarnold> bancroft: note /etc/profile only sources files that are readable by the user in question -- are the permissions correct?
[17:19] <bancroft> leftyfb: Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS is what I see in lsb_release -a
[17:20] <enigma9o7[m]> That's great, that's fully up to date ubuntu 18.
[17:20] <bancroft> sarnold: it's owned by root
[17:20] <bancroft> hmm ok I think it might be a permission thing then
[17:20] <bancroft> 1 is exec, so I could just put 711 and leave it owned by root?
[17:21] <enigma9o7[m]> but no need to mention all the extra numbers, everyone in the entire channel knew what you meant by unbuntu 18, other than lefty
[17:21] <sarnold> bancroft: but can the user in question read it?
[17:21] <sarnold> bancroft: *read*
[17:21] <sarnold> bancroft: not execute, read :)
[17:22] <bancroft> the file in question had -rwxr-xr-x alreaddy so I believe the answer is yes
[17:22] <sarnold> okay, cool
[17:22] <sarnold> so, what shell is the user using? does it use /etc/profile?
[17:23] <leftyfb> enigma9o7[m]: the "extra numbers" matter
[17:24] <enigma9o7[m]> even yer little reply only asked for the month
[17:24] <bancroft> sarnold: maybe i'm asking the wrong question, I'm trying to install pyenv python everywhere instead of the apt python and add the path to pyenv to everything. Ansible doesn't have a nice way to have the path for every task and play, but I read a post saying that I could make use the /etc/profile.d for both the interactive and non-interactive parts
[17:24] <enigma9o7[m]> sure, they matter, but not in this case, you're just being an ass
[17:25] <leftyfb> enigma9o7[m]: yes, because 18.04 != 18 != 18.10
[17:25] <Maik> enigma9o7[m]: please behave
[17:25] <leftyfb> enigma9o7[m]: watch the language and attitude please
[17:25] <enigma9o7[m]> Attitude?  you're the one hassling people.  I'm done responding, will just ignore assholes like you now.
[17:26] <leftyfb> enigma9o7[m]: and yes, if they were running 18.10, that is an unsupported release which will probably not be able to install packages after some period of time
[17:26] <Maik> enigma9o7[m]: enough with that attitude and language
[17:26] <leftyfb> enigma9o7[m]: and also yes, lose the attitude and watch the language. This is a support channel
[17:27] <sarnold> bancroft: ahhh. /etc/profile is only used for *login* shells. I don't think there's any kind of corresponding bashrc drop-in directory for interactive non-login shells :(
[17:27] <enigma9o7[m]> Maik, noone asked you for input, but I'll put you on ignore too.
[17:27] <Maik> !ops
[17:27] <EriC^^> bancroft: very interesting, i tried it just now, it seems that without a .sh extension it ignores the file in profile.d
[17:29] <bancroft> EriC^^: if I run sudo -i so I can get on root, and run pyenv then its there. I just want it available for all users, not just root
[17:29] <Zylone> q
[17:29] <EriC^^> bancroft: hmm, try from a user typing 'bash -l'
[17:30] <jhutchins> bancroft: What's your environment?  How many shell-level users do you have?
[17:30] <bancroft> EriC^^: same issue, it doesn't think pyenv is installed
[17:30] <EriC^^> bancroft: what exactly did you add to profile.d ?
[17:30] <bancroft> jhutchins: I have 4 shell users
[17:30] <jhutchins> bancroft: Development environment?
[17:31] <bancroft> jhutchins: I assume yes? I want my server to be a mirror of what I have locally. EriC^^ https://bpa.st/CTQA that's the entire contents of /etc/profile.d/pyenv-test.sh
[17:35] <bancroft> would it be easier to just put a symbolic link in /usr/local/bin?
[17:35] <bancroft> s/easier/more best-practice -y?
[17:35] <EriC^^> you could use /etc/environment i think
[17:36] <EriC^^> if you want, try "bash -x -l exit >/tmp/test 2>&1" from a user, then grep -C4 pyenv /tmp/test
[17:38] <bancroft> it's in /tmp/test copied to https://bpa.st/E4KA
[17:40] <EriC^^> hmm, it seems it's added it to PATH, maybe something wrong in ~/.bashrc or /home/global/.profile
[17:41] <EriC^^> where it doesnt use PATH=....$PATH and resets the whole thing
[17:42] <bancroft> EriC^^: There it is!!! In bashrc, it's overwritten
[17:42] <bancroft> Thank you!
[17:42] <EriC^^> no problem
[18:56] <Guest34> Having a bit of trouble with an old (Trusty) version of Ubuntu (14.04). It suggested I update to snap to get a updated version of postgresql10, and then it updated the kernel to 4.4.4.  It seems to have wiped my existing postgresql10 install, as it says it's not installed anymore.  I'm really concerned it's also gone and wiped the databases also.
[18:56] <leftyfb> !eol | Guest34
[18:56] <fahad> is kubuntu better than ubuntu
[18:56] <Guest34> None of this was ever mentioned in the upgrade to snapd that it encouraged me to do :-(
[18:57] <Guest34> help!!!!
[18:57] <leftyfb> Guest34: Ubuntu 14.04 is no longer supported
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> no polls here please fahad
[18:57] <fahad> oki
[18:57] <sarnold> Guest34: depending upon how you wiped your old postgres install, it could possibly be gone, yeah
[18:57] <Guest34> I didn't wipe anything.
[18:57] <Guest34> snapd did
[18:58] <sarnold> try dpkg -l 'postgres*' and see what that returns
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> !chat | fahad
[18:58] <Guest34> I had this.  https://snapcraft.io/install/postgresql10/ubuntu
[18:59] <Guest34> sudo apt install snapd   upgraded from a 3.x kernel to a 4.x kernel and looks like it also removed a bunch of stuff, like postgresql.
[18:59] <Guest34> even booting back into the 3.3x kernel, it's no longer installed.
[19:00] <Guest34> stash@github:~$ dpkg -l 'postgres*'
[19:00] <Guest34> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[19:00] <Guest34> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[19:00] <Guest34> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[19:00] <Guest34> ||/ Name                       Version            Architecture       Description
[19:00] <Guest34> +++-[19:01] <Maik> sigh
[19:01] <leftyfb> Guest34: what is this machine for? Also, use pastebin
[19:01] <Maik> !paste | Guest34
[19:01] <Maik> Guest34: also we do not support EOL versions
[19:03] <leftyfb> Guest34: I HIGHLY recommend installing a supported release, preferably 20.04 since it is LTS and supported for 5-10 years
[19:05] <leftyfb> Guest34: there's no sense in trying to shoe-horn modern versions of software into an 8 year old release of ubuntu
[19:08] <newbie> hi i didnt upgrade my ubuntu computer in awhile and now i am stuck on gorilla
[19:08] <Maik> newbie: either https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[19:08] <newbie> is there a way to upgrade it to indri without complete reinstall?
[19:08] <Maik> or re-install
[19:08] <enigma9o7[m]> Ah bummer newbie, what happens when you try to upgrade?
[19:08] <Maik> newbie: check the link
[19:08] <leftyfb> !eolupgrade | newbie
[19:09] <Maik> newbie: however, clean install is faster
[19:09] <leftyfb> ^
[19:10] <Guest34> OK, I think I have found my postgresql database, I have tar.gz of the database,
[19:10] <leftyfb> Guest34: Ubuntu 14.04 i not supported. Please upgrade to a supported release
[19:10] <Guest34> that's something I guess.  I just need to get back running, is there a way to going back to apt package management and not this snapd stuff
[19:10] <Maik> Guest34: again, we do not support EOL releases
[19:11] <enigma9o7[m]> sudo apt purge snapd
[19:11] <Maik> Guest34: if you want support either install 18.04, 20.04 or 21.10
[19:11] <leftyfb> Guest34: do not listen to enigma9o7[m]. They will only make things worse for you
[19:12] <Maik> exactly
[19:12] <enigma9o7[m]> if you want to make sure it doesnt reinstall gotta do stuff in /etc/apt/preferences i believe
[19:12] <Guest34> Of course, but right now, I am stuck in the middle, and "we don't support" is hugely unhelpful when trying to ensure data is safe
[19:13] <Maik> Guest34: your own fault, you should have kept upgrading to a supported version of Ubuntu
[19:13] <leftyfb> Guest34: at this point, it is going to be faster to make a backup of your database (which you should already have) and reinstall Ubuntu 20.04 from scratch
[19:13] <newbie> can i downgrade to 20.04 ?
[19:13] <Maik> no
[19:13] <Maik> newbie: clean install is the only option
[19:13] <jhutchins> newbie: We could ask "from what", but the answer is the same.
[19:14] <leftyfb> newbie: Ubuntu 20.04 is an upgrade from 14.04, not a downgrade. And no, it would take you WAY longer to follow that upgrade path
[19:14] <newbie> im on gorilla now
[19:14] <leftyfb> ugh, wrong person, sorry
[19:14] <Maik> newbie: as said clean install
[19:14] <jhutchins> newbie: Why do you want to downgrade?
[19:14] <leftyfb> too many people running unsupported versions of ubuntu
[19:15] <Maik> jhutchins: for a supported version
[19:15] <enigma9o7[m]> for LTS support probably....
[19:15] <leftyfb> jhutchins: because 20.04 is still supported
[19:15] <newbie> i am stuck on 20.10
[19:15] <mannequin> and it will be for years
[19:15] <enigma9o7[m]> What happens when you try to upgrade following those instructions someone linked when you asked for a wya to upgrade?
[19:16] <leftyfb> newbie: reinstall
[19:17] <Maik> again....
[19:17] <newbie> i dont have a usb stick right now
[19:17] <enigma9o7[m]> Basically, why do you keep saying you're "stuck"?  What happens when you try to upgrade, does something go wrong?
[19:17] <mannequin> always have 2 usb sticks
[19:17] <leftyfb> newbie: let us know when you get one if you run into issues with the upgrade. We'll be happy to help
[19:17] <enigma9o7[m]> I have half a dozen, but irrelevant, dont need one.
[19:18] <Maik> mannequin: if you don't have anything constructive to say then please do not try to provide support
[19:18] <newbie> enigma - it says failed to download repository information
[19:19] <mannequin> enigma was the german cryptographic communication mechanism poles cracked
[19:19] <Maik> newbie: you were given a link twice on how to perform a EOL upgrade
[19:19] <enigma9o7[m]> What says that?
[19:19] <mannequin> just a reminder
[19:19] <enigma9o7[m]> What were you doing when "it" said that?
[19:19] <Maik> mannequin: keep the nonsense out of the channel
[19:19] <Sven_vB> hi :) can someone help me obtain JavaFX 17 for Ubuntu focal? all the pages I found lead to https://gluonhq.com/products/javafx/ but the downloads list at the bottom is empty, with all filter options only offering "[any]".
[19:19] <enigma9o7[m]> Were you doing what was suggested in that link, or something different?
[19:19] <leftyfb> newbie: if you would like a broken system, making it more difficult to recover your data for backup when you will inevitably be required to reinstall from scratch feel free to follow enigma9o7[m]'s advice
[19:20] <Maik> !ot | mannequin
[19:20] <Sven_vB> I tried installing openjfx via apt but it's only version 11
[19:20] <leftyfb> !latest | Sven_vB
[19:20] <Maik> newbie: don't take any advice from enigma9o7[m] please and follow our guides
[19:20] <newbie> i see the EOLUpgrades page
[19:21] <Maik> follow that
[19:21] <newbie> i dont know what sources.list is
[19:21] <Maik> reda
[19:21] <Maik> read
[19:21] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, yeah, that's why I tried downloading it from the vendor website
[19:21] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: if you'd like help installing 3rd party packages, you'll need to reach out to the vendor for support
[19:21] <enigma9o7[m]> `sudo apt edit-sources`
[19:21] <enigma9o7[m]> That will open /etc/apt/sources.list for you
[19:21] <enigma9o7[m]> It is a list of repositories that APT will check for software from.
[19:23] <Maik> newbie: if it's too difficult then please do a clean install of a supported ubuntu version as you were told four times now
[19:23] <Maik> wait until you have a usb stick then
[19:24] <anarcat> is there a place to report spam on launchpad?
[19:24] <anarcat> i had a kind of hilarious one https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+question/402913
[19:24] <Maik> though i find it hard to believe people do not have a usb stick at hand these days
[19:24] <anarcat> "toiletsadviser"
[19:24] <leftyfb> anarcat: try #launchpad
[19:24] <anarcat> thanks
[19:27] <enigma9o7[m]> rofl! unbiases reviews of home toilets
[19:27] <leftyfb> !ot | enigma9o7[m]
[19:28] <enigma9o7[m]> Thanks but no thanks ubottu.
[19:29] <anarcat> isn't it hilarious?
[19:29] <anarcat> maybe they misread ubuntu and thought it was ubuttu or something
[19:29] <anarcat> sorry
[19:29] <anarcat> it's monday
[19:29] <webchat12> hi
[19:30] <leftyfb> anarcat: feel free to chat about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:30] <webchat12> I have SSL problems now that I upgraded to kubuntu 22.04, all problems are connection over a vpn
[19:30] <sarnold> enigma9o7[m]: cmon, you've been asked nicely several times
[19:30] <anarcat> leftyfb: sure, sorry :)
[19:30] <anarcat> you folks have a nice day!
[19:31] <leftyfb> !next | webchat12
[19:31] <enigma9o7[m]> sarnold, wtf are you talking about?  asked nicely what?  are you talking about to register for nickserv and join offtopic channel, as that ubottu was the first person to ask me that, and i told them no thanks.
[19:31] <enigma9o7[m]> I have no interest in doing either.
[19:31] <anarcat> lol
[19:31] <Maik> thanks
[19:32] <webchat12> thanks"
[19:50] <Sven_vB> in case anyone else has the OpenJFX/JavaFX problem, here's my solution: via Wayback machine, I found a mement from 2018 when the downloads page still had some download links. I copied the old download link for the linux version from back then, and replaced the version number in the URL with current OpenJFX version (17), and fortunately, this yielded the current download link: http://gluonhq.com/download/javafx-17-ea-sdk-linux/
[19:53] <sarnold> Sven_vB: sheeeesh :)
[19:53] <sarnold> Sven_vB: what a pain
[19:53] <Sven_vB> sarnold, well, it's a java program. I expected that.
[19:53] <sarnold> hehe
[20:11] <oscurochu> a dual boot install with another os went bad, now i cant get back into ubuntu. https://postimg.cc/ns6Bwcdr
[20:12] <leftyfb> oscurochu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[20:12] <leftyfb> oscurochu: ^ first result on google for "ubuntu recover boot"
[20:12] <oscurochu> how do i reinstall the kernel? my /boot partition got messed with also
[20:13] <leftyfb> also "ubuntu fix boot"
[20:13] <leftyfb> oscurochu: define "messed up"
[20:13] <oscurochu> i've tried grub-install, and i still get the erro
[20:13] <leftyfb> oscurochu: reinstall ubuntu
[20:14] <oscurochu> oh the ubuntu cd has a boot repair. i see that now
[20:14] <oscurochu> thats too much work.
[20:14] <leftyfb> oscurochu: what version of ubuntu is this?
[20:14] <oscurochu> reinstall ubuntu would take me 4 hours... fixing a boot issue should take 10 minutes.
[20:15] <oscurochu> 20.04
[20:15] <leftyfb> oscurochu: you're 3 minutes into not being able to fix your boot issue in 10 minutes
[20:15] <oscurochu> cause after i get ubuntu installed and booted, i gotta spend another several hours getting all my software installed.
[20:15] <leftyfb> oscurochu: make a list
[20:16] <oscurochu> no
[20:16] <leftyfb> ok, good luck
[20:16] <oscurochu> i'd rather wait for someone more experienced to help me
[20:17] <oscurochu> unless this boot repair actually works
[20:17] <leftyfb> oscurochu: no, you're looking for someone willing to give you every single command already written up in articles and documentation, one of which has alread been given to you
[20:17] <oscurochu> lol no
[20:29] <nick75> Hello,
[20:29] <nick75> I am using Ubuntu 16.04.7 64bit OS.
[20:29] <nick75> I am trying to make xrandr customization to my display, permanent by placing them in my
[20:29] <nick75> .profile file. Any changes I make to .profile in my home directory is lost upon reboot?
[20:29] <nick75> Any thoughts on a why this may be occurring.
[20:29] <nick75> Any feedback would be appreciated.
[20:30] <leftyfb> !eol | nick75
[20:31] <leftyfb> nick75: Ubuntu 16.04 is EOL. You need to upgrade to continue to receive support
[20:32] <nick75> Ok, thank you!
[20:55] <Guest94> Hey i was curious how to rename my network device from enp0s25 to eth0. I am running Ubuntu 20
[20:58] <jhutchins> Guest94: What release are you on?
[20:59] <Guest94> Ubuntu 20.04
[20:59] <sarnold> are you using systemd-networkd or networkmanager or ..?
[20:59] <jhutchins> Guest94: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1317036/how-to-rename-a-network-interface-in-20-04
[21:00] <jhutchins> That seems unnecessarily complex, I believe there's still a kernel boot parameter that restores the old naming conventions...
[21:00] <Guest94> lol yeah i was about to say
[21:00] <Guest94> The issue i am truly having is with snort
[21:01] <Guest94> I keep getting a "WARNING: No preprocessors configured for policy 0." and i noticed alot of examples use eth0. Figured id give it a shot and see how it operates
[21:02] <Guest94> jhutchins
[21:04] <kexec> does ubuntu live have some different package repositories? i am trying to download and install refind (https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/refind) by "sudo apt install refind" but getting error "Unable to locate package refind"
[21:04] <Guest94> what exact command did u type in
[21:04] <sarnold> kexec: try running apt policy, I wouldn't be surprised if universe isn't enabled in the live sessions by default
[21:05] <Guest94> kexec : "sudo apt-get install refind"
[21:05] <Guest94> ;D
[21:05] <jhutchins> Guest94: There we are: pass net.ifnames=0 on the kernel command line
[21:05] <sarnold> kexec: if universe isn't configured, try this, it might be a nice quick way to enable it if it works :) add-apt-repository universe
[21:06] <Guest94> jhutchins : Thank you
[21:06] <jhutchins> Guest94: Note that I haven't tested that recently, but I believe it still works.
[21:07] <kexec> Guest94: thats basically the same command and i got the same result
[21:07] <Guest94> jhutchins: will play with it later. i appreciate your guidance
[21:07] <kexec> sarnold: thank you, universe wasnt in apt policy. your command helped :)
[21:08] <sarnold> woot
[21:12] <rhat> Hi
[22:12] <dman777> my system froze up and I did not find any errors in the systat log.... https://dpaste.org/xJS8 could this of caused the my system to freeze?
[22:20] <sarnold> dman777: yeah, that looks a lot like it would cause a lockup
[22:21] <sarnold> dman777: I think chrome / chromium / blink / electron have a button somewhere for "don't use hardware rendering" that might help you
[22:21] <sarnold> dman777: it'd probably be worth a bug report against the nvidia drivers
[22:23] <hggdh> dman777: it might. The backtrace shows it heavily in the nvidia kernel module, doing... who knows? But if this is the single soft lockup you see, perhaps not. Also, this backtrace is a best effort, but the unwinder cannot guarantee these are indeed the calls
[22:24] <hggdh> oh sarnold was already on it :-)
[22:41] <dman777> sarnold: hggdh: thanks
[23:05] <rhat> Am I allowed to ask a question about ubuntu here?
[23:05] <echo> yes
[23:05] <genii> !ask
[23:08] <rhat> !ask
[23:08] <rhat> I'd like to install ddcci_dkms running $ echo 'ddcci 0x37' | sudo tee /sys/bus/i2c/devices/i2c-3/new_device If it doesn't work well, can I delete the driver as follows? $ echo 'ddcci 0x37' | sudo tee /sys/bus/i2c/devices/i2c-3/delete_device
[23:10] <Bashing-om> !info ddcci_dkms focal
[23:11] <Bashing-om> rhat: ^ We will need additional info to answer properly. Where did you get the tool and how did you install it ?
[23:12] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/focal/ddcci-driver-linux
[23:13] <rhat> Yes, I installed it from repo. sudo apt install ddcci_dkms
[23:13] <rhat> typo ddcci-dkms
[23:16] <Bashing-om> rhat: Then a ' sudo apt purge ddcci-dkms ' should UN-install.
[23:19] <rhat> Does that mean sudo apt purge ddcci-dkms would delete the driver on /sys/bus/i2c/devices/i2c-3/new_device?
[23:20] <Bashing-om> rhat: Yeah - I would expect so.
[23:22] <rhat> Thank you! By the way, would the command $ echo 'ddcci 0x37' | sudo tee /sys/bus/i2c/devices/i2c-3/new_device remove and override the existing driver(possibly i2c_dev?) on 0x37 (and cause some troubles)?Is the command safe to run?
[23:24] <lord_daemon> Goodnight. does anyone use termux + ubuntu + openvpn?
[23:25] <Bashing-om> rhat: That I can not comment on as I do not have the supporting hardwaare - the command inserts "ddcci 0x37" into that target file.
[23:25] <dilip> I use ubuntu and openvpn
[23:25] <lord_daemon> apparently connected everything ok, I saw the log on the server but I can't ping the private network
[23:26] <dilip> Actually i imported the config file.
[23:26] <lord_daemon> Mon Feb  7 20:15:50 2022 Initialization Sequence Completed
[23:26] <dilip> .ovpn file
[23:26] <rhat> Bashing-om: OK.Thank you :)
[23:27] <lord_daemon> I have the configuration file, I connect, I compared the log with another machine, the log is the same, but from here I don't ping the private network
[23:36] <dilip> Private network, Do you mean to say LAN?
[23:38] <dilip> Ping reply from lord_daemon: 1.038 second(s)
[23:38] <dilip> Its working for me.