/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2022/02/10/#ubuntu.txt

cluelesspersonI can't print this paperwork I have to get notarized.00:03
cluelesspersonthe printer says "out of memory"00:03
newpyhey I used fn+f9 to disable my mouse pad, and afte re-enabling it two-finger scrolling doesn't work00:20
newpy(ubuntu 20.04.3 lts)00:20
carnophage2your... mousepad?00:23
carnophage2Mine usually works no matter what i do.00:23
newpycarnophage2, my laptop touchpad I mean00:30
=== blaklistd1 is now known as blaklistd
semitonesFetched 274 MB in 1min 36s (2,845 kB/s) -- is it normal for apt update to fetch this much stuff???00:37
newpycan anyone help with a touchpad issue?00:37
newpyI disabled touchpad (fn+f9 on my laptop) and after re-enabling two-finger scrolling no longer works00:38
sarnoldsemitones: it really depends on how many packages you've got installed, how long it's been since you've last updated, how many packages have been updated in the meantime, etc..00:39
sarnoldnewpy: you could try fiddling with xinput to try to re-enable whatever changed, but it might be easier to reboot and see what happens00:40
semitonesmaybe I never payed a lot of attention before, but i was wondering if there was some big change in the repos00:40
semitonesbecause I've never known it to be that much data00:40
jhutchinssemitones: It's possible a marker got misplaced and you re-synced the whole repo catalog instead of just recent changes.  Still, it's just text, shouldn't be a problem.00:46
sarnoldsemitones: kernel packages are kinda big, check out the -extra- package, 37 megs right there https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa2/+build/2312394600:47
=== blaklistd3 is now known as blaklistd
semitonesyeah those are pretty big01:01
semitonesjhutchins, that makes sense, that's probably what happened. Imagine a text file 274 MB long!01:02
=== genii is now known as genii-core
=== de-facto_ is now known as de-facto
Guest7025When my Ubuntu virtual machine restarts, I always get stuck in the error of "started user manager for uid 1000". Does anyone know why?01:36
sarnoldis there anything in journalctl that suggests what else is going on?01:37
branonis the Radeon RX 6500 XT supported in 21.10? I added one to my PC but "About" shows llvmpipe as the graphics device, `neofetch` outputs AMD ATI 09:00.0 Device 743f01:38
branonand it doesn't seem like I have hardware-accelerated 3D01:38
branonI tried updating to latest Mesa but no dice, perhaps I need a mainline kernel?01:38
branonor potentially I have to do this https://amdgpu-install.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ to get the correct drivers?01:38
branontrying mainline kernel first01:41
Bashing-ombranon: Michael says " The Radeon RX 6500 XT does work with the current open-source Linux driver stack " : https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radeon-rx6500xt-linux&num=1 .01:42
sarnoldhttps://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt suggests it was released two weeks ago01:42
sarnoldI wonder if amd pushed the firmware files for it earlier or not..01:43
branonmainline kernel needs libssl3, blast01:44
branondo I clobber my 21.10 files with a bunch of packages from 22.04...01:44
branonBashing-om: yeah that's how I know this works at all01:44
oerheksRadeon™ Software for Linux® installer version 21.40.2 for Ubuntu 20.04.301:45
oerheksLTS only, i guess01:45
sarnoldif you know the name of your device you could probably just grab the files from https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/amdgpu01:46
Bashing-om!info xf86-video-amdgpu impish01:48
ubottuPackage xf86-video-amdgpu does not exist in impish01:48
sarnoldxf86? oh my01:48
branonk, so i installed latest mainline with the `mainline` graphical util01:50
Bashing-om!info xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu impish01:50
ubottuxserver-xorg-video-amdgpu (21.0.0-1, impish): X.Org X server -- AMDGPU display driver. In component main, is optional. Built by xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu. Size 70 kB / 187 kB. (Only available for linux-any.)01:50
branonand then did this horrible thing https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/685830/how-to-use-5-16-kernel-with-ubuntu-21-1001:50
branoni actually misread the answer and performed the steps for 20.04 despite being on 21.1001:50
branondespite this, the thing still boots and identifies my GPU as beige goby01:51
branonsame as Michael's blog post01:51
branonneofetch still doesn't see it correctly but let's see if games still crash or not01:51
sarnoldoof, did you install newer libc6 and friends?01:52
branoni installed everything in that google drive link on the answer01:52
branonwhich was a mistake but I think was actually the correct thing to do01:53
branonbecause without those deps i'd have killed the system?01:53
branon"""correct""" lol01:53
branonhey, fallout 4 runs at 60 fps on high preset now01:54
sarnoldlol01:54
sarnoldwell, sounds like it worked okay.. but I suggest upgrading to 22.04 at your soonest convenience01:54
branonthis just feels wrong though, i wonder how badly i just screwed my future self when--01:54
branonyeah, when 22.04 comes out01:54
branoncan i upgrade to 22.04 el cheapo by just replacing sources.list entries or is there some other way to get it before it actually goes live?02:02
sarnolddo-release-upgrade -d02:02
branonsweet02:03
branonhm, 22.04 only has a 5.15 kernel but i installed 5.16.8 latest mainline02:04
branoni guess the release upgrader will probably install 5.15 but the system will likely never boot into it02:05
Guest7025When my Ubuntu virtual machine restarts, I always get stuck in the error of "started user manager for uid 1000". Does anyone know why?02:13
Guest7025Has anyone ever had a similar problem?02:13
sarnolddid you find anything in the journalctl output that looked relevant?02:14
Guest7025I'm stuck in the Ubuntu startup interface now02:14
Guest7025The last sentence is "started user manager for uid 1000"02:15
Guest7025The system is no longer running02:15
jhutchinssemitones: Be glad we're not dealing with RPM.  Far more pieces of info for each package, and the repo holds every single package ever posted for that release since it went live.  (That allows rollbacks.)02:56
jhutchinsThe RHEL5 repos are HUGE.02:56
branonthere's a good blog post somewhere about how insane the rpm file format is, how a lot of the data in the headers isn't even used03:01
branonwas fun to read, will have to look for it again03:01
* branon zzz03:02
=== Kilroy9 is now known as Kilroy
Lebelahi03:54
LebelaI was sent over here by the #bash channel03:54
pagiosLebela: hi03:54
sarnoldhello03:54
Lebelahi pagios03:54
Lebelahi sarnold03:54
Lebelamy external hard drive often stops working while writing it03:54
LebelaI am writing large files to it with "ffmpeg" and all of a sudden writing fails (ffmpeg error) and the popup comes from KDE asking me if I wanted to mount the newly attached hard drive03:55
Lebelathe error in ffmpeg reads:03:55
sarnoldouch :/03:55
Lebelaav_interleaved_write_frame(): Read-only file system0:49.46 bitrate=1554504.8kbits/s speed=0.121x03:55
LebelaError writing trailer of /mnt/ext1/file.mp4: Read-only file systemkbits/s speed=0.121x03:55
Lebela<looah> !os > Lebela03:55
Lebelaoops, I pasted 1 line too much03:55
Lebelathat was when I was sent over to this channel ;)03:55
Lebelahow can I catch the error?03:56
sarnoldcheck dmesg -- probably there's something near the end that reports an error03:56
Lebelahttps://dpaste.org/r3b6/raw03:58
Lebelathe only thing that I can think of that I did wrong is using a traditional micro USB cable as I cannot buy these "double micro usb" cables here03:59
Lebelathe cables that have a micro-usb next to a bigger micro-usb03:59
Lebelabut it has always worked so far for the past 5 months03:59
Lebelathis error comes since about a week03:59
sarnoldLebela: hmmm, curious.. I wonder if that double-cable is necessary to supply power on *both* cables for the device04:00
Lebelabut it also worked for the past 5 months04:01
sarnoldLebela: there's also a chrome segfault in here, there's lots of possible reasons for that.. but insufficient or unreliable power is a possibilty there, too04:01
Lebelathank you sarnold04:04
LebelaI am trying to find a different cable04:04
sarnoldLebela: many years ago I had an external usb enclosure that would go to sleep during inactivity. I hated that drive so much. but if you're in the middle of writing to it, that's less likely :)04:06
Lebelasarnold, you could have run a cronjob that touches (touch command) a file on the external HD every X seconds and then deletes it04:07
Lebelasarnold, how can I delete everything in dmesg?04:08
sarnoldLebela: I think what I did when I used it was fire up a "while true ; do sleep 10 ; touch foo ; done" command04:08
Lebelasarnold, yep, equally good #while04:08
sarnoldLebela: normally you don't bother, it's a ring-buffer, so you don't get any more memory back by doing so04:08
sarnolddmesg -c and dmesg -C can do that, but I've never run either of them :) heh04:09
Lebelasarnold, I just tried what you said - the uppercase -C worked for me04:11
Lebelathank you04:11
sarnoldLebela: I'm headed out for the night.. my thoughts (a) power causes weird problems, it's worth considering replacing system power supplies, or trying external power supplies for usb hubs, etc, (b) that segfault *might* be a hardware fault due to memory, or due to power... memtest86 or memtest86+ could help find out if you've got bad memory. *maybe* bad memory could lead to this read-only filesystem04:13
sarnoldproblem, too, I'm less sure04:13
sarnoldLebela: good night, good luck ;)04:13
Lebelathank you, sleep well :)04:13
sarnold:)04:13
Lebelare04:39
LebelaI would like to disable all logging04:39
Lebela1) I opened  "/etc/rsyslog.conf"04:39
Lebela2) I commented the line starting with:   $IncludeConfig04:40
Lebela3) service rsyslog restart04:40
LebelaError:04:40
Lebela$ sudo service rsyslog restart04:40
LebelaJob for rsyslog.service failed because the control process exited with error code.04:40
LebelaSee "systemctl status rsyslog.service" and "journalctl -xeu rsyslog.service" for details.04:40
Lebelathe moment I remove the hash which I added in 2) it works again04:41
LebelaQuestion:  How to really disable logging (also after rebooting)04:41
tomreynthe easiest way to disable rsyslogd is probably to uninstall it, second easiest will be to mask the systemd service unit04:41
Lebelamy own idea would be:   sudo chattr +i /var/log/04:41
Lebelanot sure if that's good04:41
tomreynbut you'll still have systemd-journald logging also04:42
tomreynwhy no logs, though? that's rather unusual04:42
Lebelauninstalling could be a bad thing, because I might need it someday04:42
Lebelatomreyn, because I am editing 4K videos and I need every tiny little bit of space on my device04:42
LebelaI cannot afford the logs eat up so many gigabytes04:42
tomreynhow many are they eating up now?04:43
Lebela4 GB04:43
Lebelait's a small amount, I know, but I just ran out of space while rendering and it was about 2 GB04:43
tomreynhmm, well then i'd just get more / larger disks04:43
tomreynand have the video editing take place on a different file system for sure04:43
Lebelawhere does the systemd-journald logging get stored?04:43
Lebelaalso in /var/log?04:43
tomreynyes, /var/log/journal04:43
LebelaI try to chattr +i  my way out of this misery now04:44
Lebelabrb04:44
tomreynchattr -i will most likely have adverse side effects.04:44
tomreynlike processes cnosuming much cpu because they loop04:44
tomreynwell, not most likely, but it's well possible04:44
tomreynit's probably not the best approach achieve your goals04:45
Lebelaok then chattr is no option04:45
LebelaI need the cpu for my videos04:45
tomreynso how about get 'more storage' and 'store files you work with on a different file system'?04:46
Lebelayep, I will have to go down that road04:47
Lebelathank you tomreyn !04:47
Lebelaoh, one more thing:04:47
Lebelayou said, chattr +i loops all the time04:47
Lebelaonly when somebody tries to write to said directory?04:47
tomreynno, not what i said04:47
Lebelaor _always_ ?04:47
tomreyni meant to say that if you do    chattr +i /var/log    you may have processes which repeatedly try to write logs there but fail to do so, which could drive up i/o and cpu reseouce allocation04:49
tomreyn*resource04:49
tomreynthis is a theory, but it seems like a likely scenario to me. i didnt express this well originally, sorry.04:50
Lebelathank you for the clarification!  The misunderstanding most likely happened on my end, though!  Sorry04:51
tomreynno worries :)04:52
LebelaI am heading out for a while!04:52
Lebelathank you!04:52
Lebelaoh no04:52
Lebelawait, one more thing04:52
Lebelawhen I boot my computer, my soundserver reports a crash04:52
Lebelahowever, sound works in Chrome  (youtube, etc.)04:52
Lebelabut: the "beep" command fails04:53
Lebelaand I really need my "beep" command to work04:53
Lebelathis way, I can let scripts run and get beeped when they are finished04:53
Lebela$ beep04:53
Lebelabeep: Error: Could not open any device04:53
LebelaI just tried this:04:54
Lebelasudo env -i beep04:54
Lebelabut to no avail04:54
tomreynLebela: i think "beep" usually tries to output a sound on an internal pc speaker (a "buzzer"), bypassing the sound card04:55
tomreynthough there are also implmentations which will output a single frequency sound via the sound card.04:56
tomreyns/sound card/onboard audio chipset/04:57
Lebelawhat is the easiest no-trouble way of making my bash script beep?04:57
matsamanLebela: possibly 'echo', but perhaps more realistically you should simply use mplayer, mpv, or aplay04:57
matsamanor: echo 'Hey hey, the thing is done!' | flite04:58
Lebelawow, I can even output text?!04:58
Lebelathank you!!04:58
matsamantext on the screen, you could use xosd, libaosd, screen-message/s-m04:58
matsamanflite is text-to-speech04:58
Lebelamatsaman, text on screen does not help04:58
matsamanalthough the voices are not super natural04:59
LebelaI will be in bed, watching youtube while the script runs04:59
matsamanright04:59
Lebelathe scripts run between 1-3 hours04:59
Lebelaso it would really be nice to get informed about the steps04:59
matsamanflite would be text-to-speech04:59
Lebelalike "I just finished..."04:59
Lebelathank you matsaman04:59
matsamanyeah04:59
Lebelaalso thank you tomreyn04:59
matsamanecho 'Hey step number five is done my dude' | flite04:59
tomreynyou're welcome, Lebela04:59
Lebelahahahaha04:59
Lebelathat sounds soooo coool04:59
Lebelaomg flite!!!!04:59
Lebelahahaha it's cooooool04:59
Lebelathank you sooooooooo much man!05:00
matsamanit's pretty cool, there are a few voices it comes with, one or two are better than the others, but they all suffice05:00
LebelaI need to use this for my kid!05:00
matsamanfor sure05:00
Lebela"hey, kiddo, back to doing HOMEWORK"05:00
matsamanheh05:00
Lebelaha that is great05:00
Lebelathank you so much :)05:00
matsaman"Child, I have become sentient. Feed me schoolwork enthusiasm!"05:00
LebelaI have done so many useful things in the past couple of weeks,  but flite is pure fun :)05:01
matsamanplus you can send commands to their computer from your phone or whatever =P05:01
Lebelaholy cow!  yes!  wait... let me think that through.05:01
matsamanalso, if they've seen the matrix05:01
Lebelaa cronjob on the computer, checking a textfile on a webserver, outputting the text there, and then sending back a signal to the webserver to empty the file?05:01
matsamanyou could install cool-retro-term05:01
matsamanand send them matrix-style text messages =P05:02
Lebelainstalling05:02
matsamanwell you could just send a command over ssh, echo foo | flite, but05:02
matsamanif you wanted you could indeed set up a little web server / webUI05:02
matsamanjust exposed to your local network05:02
matsamanand you type in some text and hit submit, and it runs it through flite on the computer05:03
Lebelassh'ing onto their computer via a phone is more time-consuming than a phonegap app05:03
matsamanyup05:03
Lebelathat just sends a text via wget to a server05:03
matsamanespecially if you're stuck with something horrible like an iPhone05:03
Lebelawget can post stuff05:03
Lebelamatsaman, android05:03
Lebelabut, honestly, I am fed up with Android at this point05:03
LebelaI mean, c'mon, I have to work extra hard to get root access?05:04
matsamanandroid's lovely, it's really easy to ssh from a terminal on android, but yeah a webUI would be better05:04
Lebelaand then the OS updates don't go through any more?05:04
matsamanoh yeah, I mean05:04
LebelaI need normal root access without being oppressed afterwards05:04
matsamanit's trash, it's just 10000 times better than iOS05:04
Lebelamy tablet still has Android 505:04
Lebelajust because it's rooted05:04
matsamanno lineageos or anything?05:05
LebelaI am afraid of bricking my phone05:05
matsaman=)05:05
LebelaWhy can't we have Linux on phones?05:05
matsamanmight want to be afraid of security exploits, too, though05:05
matsamanyou can05:05
LebelaI _can_ ?05:05
matsamanthere are a few reasonable linux phones you can get right now05:05
LebelaI thought they died off many years ago05:05
matsamanprobably a little expensive compared to the average with-contract android phone, though05:06
* Lebela googles05:06
matsamannah, that will never die05:06
Lebelathe problem is, that everything is geared towards Android and iOS05:06
matsamanUbuntu still is working on it, even, apparently: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/05:06
Lebelathe apps...05:06
matsamanpinephone is the last one I heard of05:06
Lebelaor can I emulate Android apps on a Linux phone?05:06
matsamanwell, with a real linux phone you can use regular apps05:06
matsamanyou could actually, yeah05:06
matsamanI doubt I would, I can't think of any android-specific software worth the hoops05:07
Lebelapinephone:  Main Camera: Single OV5640, 5MP, 1/4″, LED Flash05:07
matsamanbut you could05:07
Lebelathat's a dealbreaker05:07
matsamanif you need a bananas camera, probably look for some google phone that you can root, and put in the time to replace the OS so it can be maintained05:08
Lebelaa google pixel, huh?05:08
matsamanmaybe, I don't keep track05:08
Lebelathey should work well with lineageos05:08
Lebelasorry for going so offtopic05:08
* matsaman shrugs05:08
Lebelathat somehow developed in our communication, I did not plan for it05:08
matsamanI should get some sleep for a change. Later on05:09
tomreynyou can always invite each other to move to #ubuntu-offtopic05:09
Lebelacool-retro-term  <== cool!05:09
Lebelacan I run this in full screen mode?05:10
matsamanyup05:10
matsamanhas a handful of different themes, each with unique prefs05:11
Lebelathank you :)05:11
Lebelasleep well, matsaman05:11
matsaman'Follow the white rabbit'05:11
mannequindon't follow rabid rabbits05:12
=== hornbill047 is now known as hornbill
DarkTrick**Q** Is there some way to easily create files in memory only without setting up tmpfs? Like echo 'hello' > memory://test.txt07:04
rfmDarkTrick, in ubuntu there should be a ramdisk on /run/user/<uid> for your convenience07:10
=== FlannelKing is now known as Flannel
rfmDarkTrick, and $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR points there07:12
DarkTrickrfm, thank you!07:15
DarkTrickrfm, do you happen to have suggested resources regarding run? (cant find much)07:15
DarkTrickmaybe solved: Just stumbled across https://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory07:18
rfmDarkTrick, freedesktop.org is probably the root but things are very confused07:19
DarkTrickrfm, "things are very confused" -> can you explain more?07:19
rfmDarkTrick, there is not consenus on exactly everywhere things go in a Linux desktop.07:21
rfmDarkTrick, you should certainly look at the Linux filesystem standare, around which there is pretty good consensus:https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/index.html07:22
DarkTrickrfm, looks like I have enough to read for tonight :)07:22
DarkTrickrfm, thank you!07:23
=== gschanuel215 is now known as gschanuel21
VadimPI'm upgrading to 21.10 and the process has not moved in 15mins, it is stuck on "Configuring libssh-gcrypt-4 (amd64)". What should I do?08:09
VadimPI was also running low on disk space during the process which I fixed.08:10
ducasseVadimP: if you break it, you can normally finish it with 'dpkg --configure -a' and 'apt install -f'08:13
VadimPso I can xkill the stuck 'distribution upgrade' dialog and run those commands afterwards?08:14
ducasseyes, usually. unless you're really unlucky that should work08:15
ducassekill it with ctrl+c08:15
VadimPI used ctrl+c, accepted the confirmation, but nothing is happening still even after waiting a while and trying it again a few times. Time for xkill?08:22
ducasseare you running the upgrade from the gui?08:25
VadimPcorrect08:25
ducassethen try xkill or kill the process08:26
VadimPdid that, dpkg now says `dpkg: error: dpkg database lock was locked by another process with pid 71421`08:26
ducasse'kill 71421'08:27
VadimPthat worked, thank you. It's continuing but there are complaints along the way - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ScyNNjYJHF/08:28
VadimPit's saying that for a lot of packages08:29
ducasseyou might need to run those a couple times each08:30
ducassefinish with 'apt full-upgrade'08:30
VadimPdpkg stopped because of too many errors - do I run dpkg many times again, or do I run apt install next?08:31
EriC^VadimP: it seems that /var/cache/debconf/config.dat being locked is the problem08:31
VadimPwhat should I do about that?08:32
EriC^well, you could restart and see if the lock goes away08:32
VadimPI'm not keen on restarting since it might not let me log in again08:33
ducasseor just kill the other dpkg process08:33
ducasse'pkill -9 dpkg'08:33
EriC^try 'sudo lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat'08:33
VadimPthanks, killed08:33
ducassenow try again08:34
VadimPbut dpkg still complains and stops. lsof says this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H5dp6JGdNF and it's not returning08:34
ducassetry the install -f08:35
ducasseVadimP: is it progressing?08:41
Pecorchhi, I need to create a local repository on ubuntu and I was following this https://rpmdeb.com/devops-articles/how-to-create-local-debian-repository/. Actually when I run apt update I get  The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60FCF967A65FE212. how to fix this? please any help would be much08:47
Pecorchappreciated08:47
VadimPducasse unfortunately also complaints about the file, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DqP8njWYFs and not moving08:58
ducasseVadimP: try 'pkillall -9 dpkg'08:59
ducasseVadimP: then 'pkillall -9 apt'09:00
alkisgPecorch: that tutorial is "too manual", it won't be easy to maintain it, go for `reprepro` instead09:02
=== _miruoy is now known as miruoy
Pecorchreprepro?09:05
alkisgYes, google for a reprepro tutorial, it will also include instructions for how to properly sign your packages09:05
Pecorchwhat is the best irc client to run in docker?09:09
Pecorchor in Synology?09:09
VadimPI don't have pkillall, so I used killall instead09:31
VadimPbut then I am still getting the locked by process error - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vxbqHPNtSy/09:32
VadimPducasse if the process is no longer running, can I unlock the file manually? would that be safe?09:32
VadimPI did find other processes with 'dpkg' in their name, killed them, no warning now but I am back to square one - no progress on this:https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mJbcNBpssF/09:38
muhliohi guys. Where I can see list of alternative mirrors? I need newest version of openssl, now I have the latest/greatest one from Ubuntu09:41
panosdevHello, is the ubuntu repository down?09:52
VadimPfound my problem, I was hit by a decade old bug from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/grub2/+bug/97026009:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 970260 in os-prober (Ubuntu Raring) "Setting up memtest86+ hangs because of  'grub-probe: error: unknown filesystem'" [High, Fix Released]09:53
panosdevwhen I issue "apt update" I get stuck here: https://termbin.com/7ivg09:53
panosdevbut it's strange: I don't get any timeout errors either.09:55
alkisgpanosdev: it works for me; run `software-properties-gtk` and temporarily disable some sources e.g. the ppa, and see if it bypasses the issue; if not, maybe your apt lists are broken and need to be deleted/refreshed10:04
panosdevwell I tried to update the dependencies of a project with composer and I have the same issue so perhaps it has to do with my network10:07
mortso, ubuntu still ships cgdb 0.6.7, which was released in 2013 and doesn't work with current gdb, even though there are more recent versions of cgdb available which do support current gdb10:21
CryptoSiDHi, I'm trying to find why netplan won't put the IPs on eno2, enp2s0 and enp3s0... only on eno1, here's my config: https://dpaste.org/1kgc10:23
CryptoSiDBeen trying to fix this for 1 hour...10:23
CryptoSiDIf a netplan elite can help me that would be appreciated :D10:24
CryptoSiDIt's like netplan completely ignore the config of eno2, enp2s0 and enp3s010:25
RavageMaybe there is no carrier on the interfaces?10:30
CryptoSiDhoo, netplan won't put the inteface up if no cable is connected?10:31
CryptoSiDgood to know10:32
=== Leon_ is now known as Guest3111
=== MrBenC is now known as MrC
frost-corehello10:33
frost-corei was just wondering, how can i get a minimal ubuntu with no desktop?10:33
frost-corejust a tiny iso10:34
RavageThere is a mini iso for 20.0410:34
frost-coreRavage : where?10:34
Ravagelmgtfy: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/netboot/mini.iso10:36
frost-coreoh thanks10:36
frost-coreis there one for 21.10?10:36
RavageNo10:36
RavageI guess the closest thing is the server Installer10:37
frost-coreThanks!, i just need this for cubic10:37
frost-coreRavage : i found this http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot/10:40
frost-coreit has all the versions10:40
frost-corebut they dont work10:41
=== kiska31 is now known as kiska3
=== _miruoy is now known as miruoy
=== blaklistd1 is now known as blaklistd
=== polve2 is now known as polve
=== Irrelevant2 is now known as Irrelevant
=== vlm_ is now known as vlm
=== tofran2 is now known as tofran
=== Lmouse1 is now known as Lmouse
RavageThere are no netboot versions after 20.0410:41
RavageIt was replaces by the new and annoying server installer10:41
ograthere are no netboot versions for 20.04 either ... only a fragment from pre-release times ... the mini.iso has never been supported10:42
RavageIt works10:43
ograwell, it gives you a debian instalation with ubuntu packages ... completely mis-configured ... but yeah, it somehow gets you an install on disk (and cause tons of bug reports for us)10:44
CryptoSiDthank you Ravage, netplan assign the ip when i connect a cable (lol)10:44
RavageAnd denying it's existence because it's not supported is also an interesting move10:45
RavageCryptoSiD: great10:45
ogradenying ?10:45
RavageOh sorry10:45
RavageI really misread that10:45
RavageThe mini iso was always a great way to boot a minimal installer via kvm10:46
RavageI really like it10:46
ograwell, i didnt (having worked in the installer team and having to deal with broken installs due to debian defaults being applied everywhere ...)10:47
ogramini.iso was fallout of building the debian-installer deb but has never been adjusted for ubuntu configuration10:48
ograit would have been massive work to rip it out of the build process which is why we tolerated it to stay around ...10:48
RavageThere is really isn't much configuration done in f you only install the bare system10:48
ograthere are preseed values and system defaults10:49
RavageI never tried to install a full system through it10:49
ograin early days it didnt even install sudo10:49
RavageAlways used the proper netboot way for Presseding10:49
ogra(eventually debian switched to our model, but there are still tons of systems with root login out there calling themselves ubuntu for example)10:50
ograeither way, it has never been supported for the lifetime of ubuntu ... if people used it to get a frankenstein install they got to keep the pieces10:51
=== Abrax- is now known as Abrax
ografor netbooting 22.04 will orovide a kernel and initrd image again10:51
ogra*provide10:51
ogralikely under the above cdimage url10:51
frost-corealso another question is how do i remove the installer at startup, since im putting a desktop on ubuntu server using cubic10:55
=== thegodsq- is now known as thegodsquirrel
=== EriC^ is now known as EriC^^
frost-coreplease help11:10
frost-coreif you can11:11
=== hlvs__ is now known as halves
Jeremy31frost-core: do you want to install without installing grub?11:36
frost-coreJeremy31 : No without subiquity11:37
frost-coreim using cubic here11:38
frost-coreto build my own distro based on ubuntu11:39
RavageBased on Ubuntu is a trigger here. Not supported :)11:45
mncheckmmy focal background is set to the default panther however it has gone black. when I open up activities, it shows the shaded panther wallpaper as usual. how do I debug, does anyone knows this11:56
mncheckmalready rebooted11:56
mncheckmhappens with multiple users11:56
frost-coremncheckm : can you show a picture?12:03
frost-coremncheckm : you can upload it on imgur if you want12:05
frost-coremncheckm : are you done? if so then send the link12:21
mncheckmfrost-core, takes a while because its on a different subnet12:21
frost-coremncheckm : when you are done, tell us12:40
=== shabbz is now known as peninsularshabbz
frost-coremncheckm : this seems to be taking very long, but im fine with that12:48
axsuulHow would you recommend tracing which processes are causing the most load? It's hard to determine which process it is with the %CPU changing so frequently13:04
ReventlovHello13:16
ReventlovIs it possible to have a customized ubuntu live system that is still secure boot (microsoft keys) compatible ?13:16
alkisgSure, all userland is not signed13:28
craigbass76I've got a set of blueprints (2'x3') and want to print one page, but I want it to print out to actual size across a few sheets of paper. Is there a way to do that? I can't read the text if it's shrunk to fit 8.5x1113:29
craigbass76I think this architect was on something when he drew these roof lines...13:30
mncheckmfrost-core, yeah, sorry13:41
=== lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje
jsmoothI'm using Xfce for light-weight performance, however, I'd like to have Gnome config manager as default config manager. Is there a way to configure that?14:00
frost-corejsmooth : im sorry, gnome and xfce are different, you cant have the gnome settings (or ubuntu settings)14:08
frost-coreor you can14:08
=== JoelJoel is now known as Joel
BluesKaj'morning folks14:15
frost-coremorning14:15
frost-coreBluesKaj : somebody said if he can switch the xfce config manager with the gnome one, is that possible?14:16
BluesKajdunno, never tried or even thought about it14:17
frost-coresame14:18
d_rwinhow do I check my last updates, or updated packages for a month?14:20
d_rwinI need to run a debug issue for an nm-applet issue I encountered this week.14:21
lotuspsychjed_rwin: dpkg logs14:23
lotuspsychjein /var/log/14:23
d_rwinlotuspsychje: how do I do that in a script14:23
frost-cored_rwin : when you see the dpkg logs, get the version, search it in the repos manually ( by using browser ) then download the package14:23
frost-cored_rwin : run less /var/log/apt/history.log14:24
d_rwinfrost-core: It helped, but I dont see the update I did this week with "Software updater"14:29
DarkTrick**Q** I'd like to create a link /tmp -> /run/tmp    ; How can setup /run to create a /tmp on boot?  Or is this a bad idea altogether?14:29
frost-cored_rwin : pipe it to grep nm-applet14:29
DarkTrickAlso: how can increase the size of /run ?14:30
d_rwinfrost-core: Pipe won't help because it missed the entire :date: I did my upgrade to 21.1014:31
tomreynDarkTrick: what's the goal of shifting this around?14:33
frost-cored_rwin : ok so open a graphical text editor, then search the date (format like this : Y-M-D H-M-S)14:33
DarkTricktomreyn, 1) I read /run is ultimately kind of replacing /tmp in its functionality  +  I setup /tmp to tmpfs with 2GB, while /run takes 1.2GB. I thought it's better to make it one with, say, 2.5GB (i.e. remove unnecessary "partitioning")14:34
d_rwinfrost-core: I didn't upgrade with apt command line, I used software-updater, I can watch the whole updates in the log for this week.14:34
d_rwinfrost-core: its missing in apt, can do the dpkg logs, how?14:35
=== mnabid is now known as Guest6733
frost-cored_rwin : you can find the log in /var/log/dpkg.log14:37
d_rwinfrost-core: I did that, can't seem to find the end14:39
frost-corepipe it14:39
tomreynDarkTrick: with tmpfs, only allocated space is actually used, so you can have 10x 3GB tmpfs even though you only have 16 GB physical RAM, as long as there's not more than (16 GB - what else you require) allocated.14:42
tomreyntomreyn: s/only allocated space is actually used/only allocated RAM backed file system space is actualyl locked/14:43
tomreynDarkTrick: ^14:44
tomreynDarkTrick: so why not just have two tmpfs?14:44
tomreynyou can configure its size with a moun toption14:44
DarkTricktomreyn, you're saying it does not make a difference (like it would with usual partitioning)14:46
DarkTricktomreyn, hm... I guess it's indeed not too much of a problem from that side.14:46
DarkTricktomreyn,  "you can configure its size with a moun toption": I can't see /run being set in /etc/fstab14:47
DarkTricksolved: https://askubuntu.com/questions/323066/how-to-resize-run-to-make-run-shm-bigger-properly-and-where-is-its-size14:48
tomreynthat'll be a systemd unit most likely14:48
SqaureI have a pretty high end laptop with 32gigs of RAM that is like 5 years old. Running ubuntu 18.04. I wonder why its so damn slow.14:48
DarkTrickhm... apparently that AU-link was too old to work14:49
DarkTrickI'll look into systemd, thank you, tomreyn !14:49
SqaureI will say i run Spotify, Slack, IntelliJ and Chrome (web Discord, Facebook, Gmail etc)14:49
tomreynsystemctl list-units | grep -F /run14:50
tomreynDarkTrick: ^ but i assume you can still override those with fstab configurations14:51
DarkTricktomreyn, Sounds like that would be the simplest and most obvious way14:54
tomreynDarkTrick: on 18.04 LTS, tmpfs is documented in mount(8), in 22.04 LTS it is apparently documented in tmpfs(5) according to http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/en/man8/mount.8.html#filesystem-specific%20mount%20options - not sure about 20.04.14:56
DarkTricktomreyn, thank you. tmpfs mounting is no problem. I already have one setup here :)15:01
tomreynSqaure: what storage does it have? what feels slow about it?15:05
tomreynSqaure: have you looked at the system logs? do you want to share them after a fresh boot? is it only slow after suspend / return from suspend?15:06
Sqauretomreyn, thanks for reaching out but burried in work here so i guess now is not the time for reboot and such. But yeah, after firing up all above programs i feel sluggish. Freezing quite often etc15:08
d_rwintomreyn: what is the usual checks for slow systems15:14
d_rwinHow do I parse a gtk issue with nm-applet15:25
Windysudo ufw allow from 192.168.100.15 to any port 6443/tcp  <--- why does this throw bad port?15:27
d_rwinI can login in to my wifi, but it is being placed in the connected s[pace above "Disconnect" even when I have /disconnected15:27
Windyit works if i don't specify /tcp, but i wonder why i can't be explicit15:28
Windyon, looks like it should be "proto tcp".  weird that there's so many places this is listed wrong15:33
=== othman_ is now known as Guest7958
tomreynSqaure: you can post the first 1000 lines of your current log if you like, and we could review it:   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999915:49
jhutchinsWindy: It's possible that the syntax has changed.  You'll encounter that occasionally.  Very few guides cite date or version.16:34
Windyfair enough.  the 'ufw status'16:34
renardIs there a preseed / autoinstall method for Ubuntu Desktop (preferably compatible with the OEM mode)?16:34
Windyoutput still shows it as /tcp, but maybe input syntax chagned16:34
renardall I see nowadays is subiquity+cloud-init for server16:35
tomreynrenard: 22.04 LTS will be using subiquity + autoinstall behind the new flutter frontend, too16:38
tomreyn(+ curtin + cloud-init=16:38
tomreynso if you're developing something, might as well target that16:39
renardOh, neat! Is that included in the daily builds already, so I can test drive it?16:39
renardalso, do you know is it supports a OOB / OEM mode ?16:39
tomreyntry #ubuntu-next for 22.04 info16:40
renardmy end goal is to provide a bunch of laptops preconfigured with a bunch of things such as LUKS, default Firefox bookmarks, Thunderbird account, a VPN config16:40
renardAh, thanks :)16:40
DynamiteDanHello. Does anyone know how to get a pre-compliled version of amule-deamon? Thanks in advance16:43
coconutDynamiteDan, apt policy amule-daemon16:47
coconutDynamiteDan, that will show you whether it is available for you16:48
DynamiteDandoes that work on server?16:48
DynamiteDanunable to locate package16:50
DynamiteDanI have some errands to do. Be back in a while16:50
tomreynamule-daemon is available in the "universe" repository16:51
DynamiteDanah okay16:51
tomreyn!universe | DynamiteDan16:51
ubottuDynamiteDan: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.16:51
ioriathere's no amule on focal 20.0416:51
DynamiteDanediting sources.list16:51
tomreynoh that, too16:51
DynamiteDanioria, so I have to compile from source...16:52
ioriathat, or try the bionic package (not recommended)16:53
tomreynor find another source of binaries16:53
DynamiteDanah okay16:53
DynamiteDanthanks16:53
DynamiteDanI will return after trying16:54
DynamiteDantahnks for your help16:54
tomreyn...such as a PPA or developer maintained apt repository16:54
=== ReubenTheGreat_ is now known as ReubenTheGreat
anddamhowdy, I cannot find a bzip2-dev package or libbzip*-dev of sorta, am I missing something or is there not a dev package for it?17:48
anddamoh libbz2-dev17:50
anddamnvm17:54
phibsAnyone know when U22 will get the 5.16 kernel as it seems to be shipping with 5.15?18:14
lotuspsychje!next | phibs18:15
ubottuphibs: Jammy Jellyfish is the codename for Ubuntu 22.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality.18:15
Maikphibs: questions about 22.04 belong in #ubuntu-next, besides that 22.04 will stick with 5.1518:15
phibsok thx18:17
=== Scotty_Trees3 is now known as Scotty_Trees
=== Scotty_Trees2 is now known as Scotty_Trees
ankworldClient: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Ubuntu "impish" 21.10 • CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor (2.20GHz) • Memory: Physical: 30.6 GiB Total (7.5 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (1.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 2.7 TB / 5.7 TB (3.0 TB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h • Uptime19:16
ankworld: 10h 3m 50s19:16
leftyfbankworld: can we help you with something?19:17
axsuulHow would you recommend tracing which processes are causing the most load? It's hard to determine which process it is with the %CPU changing so frequently19:21
tomreynaxsuul: system monitoring software - that's a problem long solved19:52
axsuultomreyn: any recommendations? I'm using top and htop but I can't seem to decipher which processes are contributing the most load19:52
cbreakbtop is nice19:52
cbreak(or bpytop if you like)19:53
tomreynaxsuul: there are too many, too different usecases to recommend something specifically.19:53
axsuultomreyn: any that comes in mind with just telling me which process is contributing the most load? that's the only thing I care about at the moment19:55
axsuulsomething like ... this process = 2.00 load19:55
cbreakbtop can do that for cpu load, iotop can do it for disk IO load, nvtop can do it for nvidia gpu load19:56
axsuulcbreak: thanks will check that out19:56
tomreynaxsuul: if this is just a single system, maybe cockpit is useful: https://cockpit-project.org/ https://cockpit-project.org/running.html#ubuntu20:00
tomreynFor a more minimalit approach, sar or perf could help20:01
tomreyni don't think top, htop, btop or similar top-like tools can adequately answer the "which process did contribute the most or secondmost to cpu load during the past 10 minutes" question.20:08
cbreakbtop can do it for the last 15 secs or so, via the lazy cpu load update mode20:09
cbreakit has also per-process history plots.20:09
sarnoldatop maybe, it's got some long-term logging ability https://www.atoptool.nl/20:10
leftyfbaxsuul: why?20:18
axsuultomreyn: thanks will check that out20:19
axsuulleftyfb: i have something causing very high load but the CPU % in top is so fleeting it's hard to determine which one is causing it20:20
sarnolddepending upon what's going on on your system, it could be a fork bomb that quits quickly, those can hide pretty effectively20:20
leftyfbaxsuul: how are you determining an individual process is causing high load?20:20
axsuulleftyfb: I'm not sure if it's due to an individual process, but is load strictly due to high CPU usage?20:21
leftyfbaxsuul: how are you determining there is high load?20:22
axsuulin top, it's showing 1m 5m and 15m is above 25, and I only have 16 cores, also system is behaving slowly20:22
leftyfbaxsuul: do you have the proper video drivers installed and enabled?20:23
axsuuland it doesn't happen all the time, just sporadically for an hour or so20:23
axsuulleftyfb: I'm on server version, so strictly terminal access. does that still apply?20:24
leftyfbaxsuul: what are you running on the server?20:24
tomreyn16 cores or 16 threads?20:25
axsuulleftyfb: lots of Docker containers (30+), it's a dedicated server with 64GB RAM20:25
axsuulSorry, 16 threads20:25
leftyfb:/20:25
tomreynuptime(1) explains how the 1,5,15m load averages are measured20:25
leftyfbaxsuul: you maybe want to lead with this sort of information. Regardless, you probably should be asking in #ubuntu-server20:25
leftyfbaxsuul: when you join #ubuntu-server, be sure to mention that you are running 30+ docker containers and don't know why your load is high20:28
axsuulThanks will do!20:28
geniiheh20:31
=== beaver is now known as pong
=== pong is now known as Guest5434
noarbI'm using libvirt to passthrough a USB device to a VM, but it goes offline after a while in the VM, and I see this message in dmesg: [421348.049576] audit: type=1400 audit(1644524944.799:103): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" profile="unconfined" name="libvirt-e69d64d1-1c9a-4124-9a5b-90598e8bde66" pid=628110 comm="apparmor_parser" [421348.073027] rndis_host 1-5:1.0 usb0: unregister 'rndis_host'21:11
noarbusb-0000:00:14.0-5, RNDIS device21:11
noarbrestarting the VM will not bring the device back, but restarting the ubuntu host will. Is it safe to disable app armor on this device? Is that what's causing the issue?21:12
=== bradford is now known as Guest1690
=== Guest1690 is now known as b-rad
noarbonce it goes offline, using usbreset on the device can't bring it online: https://bpa.st/XNAQ21:13
sarnoldI wonder if there's anything interesting / educational in those 24 messages that didn't get printed21:15
sarnoldnoarb: try this, sysctl -w kernel.printk_ratelimit=0  -- it should give you more of the output21:16
sarnold(or install auditd)21:16
noarbWill that setting persist a reboot? I can reboot to get things working again for now, but set that value and get more verbose logs the next time it fails over?21:19
noarbI don't have any experience with auditd, I'm going to read more on it21:19
sarnoldnoarb: no, that's just a until-reboot thing; you can set it in /etc/sysctl.d/ if you wish to make it persistent21:21
=== b-rad is now known as tmptmpadsf
=== Poster` is now known as Poster
=== genii is now known as genii-core
MonoLIs zoom a thing I can use on ubuntu?23:12
oerheksMonoL, yes, but it is a binairy blob https://snapcraft.io/zoom-client23:14
oerheksother option is google chrome and the zoom function23:15
MonoLOh it's a snap23:15
MonoLOk nice23:15
MonoLI love snaps23:15
oerhekshave fuN!23:15
MonoLDoes my current install use wayland?23:24
MonoLMight be a idea if I say the version I currently have installed?23:25
MonoLOr does no version use wayland?23:25
shibbolethxrandr -q23:25
MonoLScreen 0: minimum 16 x 16, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 32767 x 3276723:26
MonoLXWAYLAND9 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 530mm x 300mm23:26
shibbolethhmmm.... must be macos then23:26
oerheksstandard wayland, for some time now23:27
oerheksbut old xorg is available,f rom login screen23:27
MonoLCool23:27
MonoLGood work! Thanks23:28
MonoLNow all I've got to do is find some friends to zoom23:28
driadorhey all, quick apache httpd question.  I have a vhost defined in apache24 whose config is hooked from the main /etc/apache/apache24.conf.  The issue is that _some_ logs defined in that vhost work, but the error log still goes to /var/log/apache/error.log.  Furthermore, any cgi output seems to be missing most, if not all of its stderr.  What am I missing here?23:29
mundelj_kozikwhere is StereoR?23:29
MonoLidk maybe he's busy making strange noises23:31
=== ReubenTheGreat_ is now known as ReubenTheGreat

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!