[07:09] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers, happy Friday!
[07:11] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN 
[07:11] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[07:14] <didrocks> good morning
[07:23] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[07:30] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks 
[07:34] <didrocks> hey duflu, salut oSoMoN 
[07:46] <pieq> Hello oSoMoN, duflu and didrocks!
[07:47] <duflu> Hi pieq 
[08:02] <Nafallo> morning :-)
[08:04] <duflu> Morning Nafallo 
[08:04] <didrocks> hey Nafallo, pieq!
[09:00] <oSoMoN> salut pieq, good morning Nafallo 
[09:18] <seb128> goood morning desktoppers
[09:19] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 
[09:23] <didrocks> salut seb128 
[09:27] <duflu> Morning seb128 
[09:27] <seb128> hey oSoMoN, didrocks, duflu, how are you?
[09:28] <oSoMoN> I'm alright, as fresh as can be on a Friday :)
[09:28] <duflu> seb128, a bit tired but we only have the meeting to go in 7 minutes then I'm done
[09:28] <duflu> You, seb128 ?
[09:28] <didrocks> I’m good thanks!
[09:42] <seb128> duflu, I'm alright thanks!
[10:19] <seb128> tjaalton, hey, is that a mesa issue or an expected error on a current daily?
[10:19] <seb128> org.gnome.Shell.desktop[896]: MESA-LOADER: failed to open qxl: /usr/lib/dri/qxl_dri.so: no such file or directory
[10:56] <tjaalton> seb128: is it built from proposed?
[11:06] <tjaalton> or is it focal?
[12:08] <tjaalton> fwiw, that file doesn't exist at least in any release since focal
[12:10] <tjaalton> so whatever is calling it is doing something wrong
[12:11] <tjaalton> qxl should use kms_swrast_dri.so
[12:36] <jbicha> happy Friday
[12:56] <oSoMoN> hello jbicha, happy Friday!
[12:57] <ricotz> hello desktopers!
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[13:20] <ricotz> jbicha, hi, feel free to ask for assistance with vala build failures
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[13:22] <KGB-0> gnome-autoar upstream/latest c37f756 Ondrej Holy gnome-autoar/autoar-extractor.c * extractor: Do not include basename in error messages * https://deb.li/syrN
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[13:31] <oSoMoN> hey ricotz 
[13:31] <seb128> tjaalton, hey, sorry forgot to reply earlier, that's on J
[13:33] <tjaalton> so it's not mesa's fault
[13:34] <tjaalton> that driver just doesn't exist
[13:34] <seb128> tjaalton, I wonder how it ends up trying to load that one, codesearch.debian.net doesn't return matches on qxl_dri.so
[13:34] <seb128> not does gitlab.gnome.org
[13:34] <seb128> it's puzzling
[13:34] <tjaalton> $driver_dri.so
[13:34] <Nafallo> haha. I'm tired today... I was wondering why seb128 is using Jaunty still  
[13:35] <seb128> :p
[13:35] <seb128> tjaalton, I guess
[13:40] <seb128> tjaalton, https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/blob/master/glx/glxdricommon.c#L323 ?
[13:41] <tjaalton> /usr/lib/dri the wrong place to look though
[13:42] <seb128> tjaalton, or https://sources.debian.org/src/mesa/21.3.5-1/src/loader/loader.c/?hl=572#L565 rather from the error in the log
[13:42] <seb128> the exact error is 
[13:42] <seb128> 'failed to open qxl: /usr/lib/dri/qxl_dri.so: Ne peut ouvrir le fichier d'objet partagé: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type (search paths /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri:\$${ORIGIN}/dri:/usr/lib/dri, suffix _dri)'
[13:43] <seb128> tjaalton, see 1258 on https://paste.centos.org/view/71d98f49
[13:44] <tjaalton> so, is this something new?
[13:49] <tjaalton> also, is there an actual problem? :)
[13:53] <seb128> tjaalton, I don't know if it's new, the user facing issue I'm trying to debug is that the current J daily desktop install is giving a dark screen session under wayland
[13:53] <seb128> under gnome-boxes
[13:53] <seb128> I didn't try other VMs technologies yet
[13:53] <seb128> xorg session works
[13:53] <seb128> the pastebin is the journal log corresponding
[13:58] <seb128> tjaalton, the log also has a warning about 'Do not want to use software renderer (llvmpipe (LLVM 12.0.1, 256 bits)), falling back to CPU copy path'
[13:59] <seb128> it's probably going to be one for duflu next week but I was at least curious about the qlx warning
[13:59] <seb128> I thouh gnome-boxes would be able to provide optimized rendering nowadays?
[14:02] <tjaalton> it says the same for the xsession too
[14:04] <seb128> k, might be a red herring
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[19:34] <seb128> jbicha, why do we still have vanilla-gnome-default-settings? with the by session override I though that gnome-session was a vanilla config and that we overrided only keys in ubuntu sessions?
[19:38] <jbicha> I don't use the package myself which is partly why that severe bug was unfixed for several months
[19:38] <jbicha> I'll have to look into it more to see if it makes sense to keep the customizations
[19:41] <jbicha> it would be nice if we could drop it to avoid that kind of bug when upstream renames gsettings keys
[19:44] <seb128> right
[19:45] <seb128> I didn't check the specifics but those changes were needed before we had by session overrides I think
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[20:04] <ricotz> kenvandine, hi :), do you mind taking a look at https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-sdk/-/merge_requests/33
[20:45] <kenvandine>  ricotz excellent, thanks!
[21:50] <ricotz> kenvandine, yw