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knightwisemorning everyone10:17
zxmpi_o/13:12
penguin42hey there zxmpi_13:15
zxmpi_happy friday13:15
* penguin42 yaaawwwnnnns13:19
diddledanihttps://youtu.be/kfVsfOSbJY013:40
davefDid I miss the memo? Is iptables now deprecated?14:47
davefWhy is it that Linux devs deprecate stuff that works and there's universal knowledge? Like net-tools, deprecated. netstat and ifconfig are useful tools. Now I learn theres nftables.14:49
zxmpi_it's an extension of the old rule, once it works it's obsolete, once it's in a pdf file it's obsolete14:50
davefquestion, how do I replicate `netstat -an4` with the new tools? I couldn't figure it out.14:58
knightwiseoj mates15:03
knightwiseO/15:03
zxmpi_how do15:06
knightwiseAlmost weekend. 15:08
knightwisedoing some paperworks (billing) to cheer me up a little at the end of the week15:08
knightwise#showmethemoney15:08
zxmpi_friday afternoon, start of the weekend. so long as you don't answer the phone after 4pm :-P15:08
davefand my friday is only just beginning *cries*15:12
zxmpi_need a nice long meeting to make that time just fly :-P15:23
diddledanione with a clock that has a seconds hand and a loud tick sound right in your eyeline17:25
zxmpi_i want the clock from vetanaris waiting room with the irregular tick tock >:-)17:26
diddledaniDave Plummer tells us what Abort, Retry, Fail means https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=392h_c3Tefs17:53
penguin42Looks like the houses of parliament could do with a cable monkey: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/159C5/production/_121171588_46437241-c21a-4904-ba67-86936c2cc1dd.jpg18:09
davefI need somebody to tell me that I'm nuts or paranoid for what I'm about to do. I'm considering putting my main workstation and work computer on a totally different network, firewalled from the rest of the network. Basically a zero trust type model. I have a second router/firewall to do this already and it's already being used as just a switch. I'm21:47
davefnot going to be doubling up on NAT, subnets will be totally routable.  Thoughts?21:47
penguin42not that insane depending what work you do and how little you trust the rest of your network21:49
davefI control the whole network, but I have a ton of services like plex, home assistant, IOT devices, etc. a ton of stuff that could be compromised in a blink of an eye. 21:51
* penguin42 does have separate subnets for things like cctv cameras and wifi21:52
davefI could move everything onto isolated VLANs, but then I run into trouble with streaming media from Plex, etc.21:52
daftykinswhy don't you just employ a router with multiple NICs? that's what i do21:53
penguin42nod, I have a load of NICs in it21:54
davefYeah, I could do that.21:54
* penguin42 is connected on the ethtodave nic :-)21:55
zxmpi_i now have 1 computer at home that is connected to no network whatsoever. only way to be sure :-)22:10
daftykins* a Pi corrupts its' own SD card in protest 22:11

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